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The RTX 4080 is too little too late... 

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@jaythelonelydriver
@jaythelonelydriver Год назад
I can never afford another new GPU anymore. This price gouging prices set by nvidia is just too ridiculous
@FeTiProductions
@FeTiProductions Год назад
Been out of the game since Maxwell my friend
@ladyhawk7408
@ladyhawk7408 Год назад
NGL. I do not have this problem as my husband and my self make a lot of disposable income. I however refuse to pay these gouging prices. I waited until the day before the 4090 launch and bought azotac 3090ti for little less than a grand brand new on amazon. that same card is now...and again nearly 2000 bucks.
@umeng2002
@umeng2002 Год назад
nVidia is still living the crypto dream.
@beardo5022
@beardo5022 Год назад
It's not nvdia, it's the scalpers who showed everyone what people were actually willing to pay. Even now you can't find a 4090 at msrp because the scalpers gobbled them up and littered ebay with them.
@Mr.Plutonium
@Mr.Plutonium Год назад
Yes prices are insane but also material costs have doubled or tripled + inflation?
@TimoBaader
@TimoBaader Год назад
When the 3000 series "launched" and ppl bought crazy scalper prices everywhere I just kept thinking "nvidia must be seeing this and thinking: ok, we can even sell them for THAT prices and people rip them off the shelves"... We kind of showed them that the price that just doesnt matter, at least for enough of ppl to sell out their cards.
@TimoBaader
@TimoBaader Год назад
pray for amd
@BedBug1984
@BedBug1984 Год назад
Yeh I said the same thing from the start, even told my friends they were idiots for buying 3080's for 1800+ bucks.
@ComdrStew
@ComdrStew Год назад
The 4090 price is actually not bad. The 4080 price is the one that is ridiculous. Should have been a $899-$999 card.
@extreme123dz
@extreme123dz Год назад
@@ComdrStew Is really bad the price of the 4090 and there is no excuses, but worst for the 4080 and even worst for the 4080 12GB/4070"TI"....
@chef_moquin9535
@chef_moquin9535 Год назад
I had the same thought about the scalpers, I don't blame NVDIA for having higher prices this time around as the scalpers showed that people were willing to pay more for the cards. I wonder if the 4080 also launched at 700 dollars would we just have the same issue as last time with scalpers. Might be different with crypto miners being less of a factor this time, but who knows, we may never see the 700 msrp xx80 card again lol
@obocecha
@obocecha Год назад
This is probably the first time ever for me that I am not excited about the new Nvidia cards. I think AMD has earned a new customer next month.
@home541_
@home541_ Год назад
Same. I’m planning on building a new system around April. May go full team red for the first time ever
@ThePopeofPoland1
@ThePopeofPoland1 Год назад
I wasn't planning on buying this generation, but I'm loving that people are willing to switch when there's a viable alternative and not just being blindly loyal.
@BrandonHasbun
@BrandonHasbun Год назад
Same and I've always been with Nvidia but now that and gonna have same performance with less cost and their temperatures have improved drastically I'll be upgrading my 3070 to a 7900xt or xtx which ever is available and not sold out lol cause for 1000 or even1200 for an Asus one or some shit that's way cheaper than Nvidia
@Dan-uf2vh
@Dan-uf2vh Год назад
Me as well. However, keep in mind that if NVidia had given fair prices, you would pay the scalpers 1500-2000$ for the 4080. It might get scalped even so.
@HK.Builds
@HK.Builds Год назад
Same here.
@wayne.1
@wayne.1 Год назад
Crazy how the 3080 was 700$ compared to this new 4080 at $1200 that’s insane.
@xpodx
@xpodx Год назад
It is beating a 2000 dollar card (3090ti) now used 1050-1150 Idk.. I think it's still worth it, but next time I upgrade I'll make a near 2x jump. Currently have a 3090
@bastiaan0487
@bastiaan0487 Год назад
@@xpodx yes, but with that logic GPU's will cost thousands of dollars within a few generations
@xpodx
@xpodx Год назад
@@bastiaan0487 I'm okay with that if it is massively better, but I'd like there to be 250, 500, 750 and 1000 options as well.
@bozhidardimitrov3573
@bozhidardimitrov3573 Год назад
@@xpodx how are you ok with that, that's not how technology improvement works at all
@xpodx
@xpodx Год назад
@@bozhidardimitrov3573 I'm okay with a halo product, that's the best and fastest available and other cut of the chips at a cheaper price, and whatever fits in my price range when I'm ready to upgrade, I'm not saying I want them to be more expensive so I can't afford it.
@Fdmartinez419
@Fdmartinez419 Год назад
The way that 6950xt stood up against those other cards and still being way sub $1k is proving to be the actual winner.
@AG-jj3lx
@AG-jj3lx Год назад
Great performance compared to the 4080 and price.
@PalladinPoker
@PalladinPoker Год назад
Imagine what a next gen XTX will do, still technically sub 1k.
@Fdmartinez419
@Fdmartinez419 Год назад
@@PalladinPoker o trust me I am patiently waiting for that launch
@monkeyofwar6818
@monkeyofwar6818 Год назад
No kidding, just checked amazon and 6905xt is at $1k and the 3090 ti is $1.7k The difference is an entire graphics card and they're about the same in performance...
@PalladinPoker
@PalladinPoker Год назад
@@monkeyofwar6818 Where I am from you can get a 3090 Ti direct from Nvidia, has been in stock for months discounted to about $1200 after conversion.
@laurentholsters2062
@laurentholsters2062 Год назад
Due to the "inflation" in Europe, and the prices for AIB cards, I'll sit this one out, 2.000€+ for these is insane.
@BeryProduction
@BeryProduction Год назад
Biggest IT/everything shop in a country has 4090 gainward phantom in presale for 1 994 .. but yeah, 2k for better AIB 4080 cards is freakin INSANE.... even asking MSRP for xx80 card is INSACE
@electronicart
@electronicart Год назад
asus rog 4080 costs 20€ more than the 4090 founders
@BeryProduction
@BeryProduction Год назад
@@electronicart Thats just so stupid .. How can anyone in their right mind buy 4080 over 4090 at the same price
@colddogs
@colddogs Год назад
but you can also heat your house from the flames of a 4090 fire.
@electronicart
@electronicart Год назад
@@BeryProduction it's stupid indeed, asus has become a scalper brand here
@Aotearas
@Aotearas Год назад
Looking at the comparative charts, I'm seeing pretty much 50% more performance across the board compared to the RTX 3080. Yet this comes at a 70% higher price. That's a hard pass from me. I'll be waiting for the RX 7900 XT and XTX reviews. If they deliver close to what's been promised/shown by AMD, it's going to be a much, MUCH better value proposition (with an actually higher performance increase than pricing increase over the 6950 XT). Honestly have to say I am deeply disappointed by Nvidia this generation. I would've loved to get myself a 30 series GPU but alas the crypto-craze and scammers made that purchase prospect void. It's just now that the 30 series GPUs finally got down to actual MSRP over here. But with the 40 series, Nvidia hiked the prices up MASSIVELY (owing to a good chunk of greed but also because they chose to go with the most expensive silicon they could've possibly chosen) AND then doubled down on scammy tactics like trying to bluff that "4080" 12GB past the consumers at 900 bucks and let's be honest here, compared to previous hardware comparisions between xx90, xx80 and xx70 tiers that chip isn't even a 4070 Ti. These proportions of CUDA cures to the rest of the line-up would traditionally be more in thr xx60/60 Ti ballpark ... and Nvidia fully intended to sell that for 900 bucks before that bluff was called. No, I'm definately eying the 7900 GPUs. If they deliver on the promises the XTX should be trading blows or even outperforming the 4080 in non-RT performance (and I don't care enough for RT to be paying premium for it) and be considerably cheaper. And if those GPUs disappoint, I'll wait to see what a 7800 GPU looks like or I'll just get a previous generation 30 or 6000 series GPU and save a LOT of money.
@daffhead4975
@daffhead4975 Год назад
Someoen wants driver issues and instability. AMD isn't really competing against Nvidia. The only thing that is intresting is performance at highest gpu settings. And you can't play old games with AMDshit.
@HydraZProductions
@HydraZProductions Год назад
@@daffhead4975 Cool.
@z02f42
@z02f42 Год назад
@@daffhead4975 crazy enough mw2 is one of the biggest releases of the year yet it runs terrible on nvidia cards and recently had driver issues for the game
@chivasdeguadalajara
@chivasdeguadalajara Год назад
AMD is really creeping up on Nvidia, I have never rooted higher and louder for AMD on both cpu and gpu fronts.
@albertocv632
@albertocv632 Год назад
@@daffhead4975 What a fanboy you are, huh? Nvidia has melting connectors and lately some drivers instability with new titles. I've had issues with Nvidia's drivers lately and a few days ago they launched a patch just for that.
@mikeyoung_1
@mikeyoung_1 Год назад
My biggest issue with the price is aside from the FE, you're not finding a card for $1200, most of them are 1400-1500 which is just insane for a 80 series card. They are just pricing the average person out of the market which is sad.
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 Год назад
At this point, that new xbox S looks like a steal, an entire system for less than the price of a GPU.
@mrtuk4282
@mrtuk4282 Год назад
Yeah, I agree with you on that. Its as if NVidia have laid a base price that AIB cannot go down to. Lets just hope the 7900XTX is obtainable at the $999 which will be £1099 in the UK :(
@nerdstrangler4804
@nerdstrangler4804 Год назад
@@mikem9536 Consoles are always a steal, since they are typically sold at cost or even a loss. Problem is if you want more performance than consoles offer, your only option is PC.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
It's not really that sad when you can just buy a Radeon card for way less and get more performance. It's only sad if you're too stupid to do so.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
@@mrtuk4282 Here's a better idea... Instead of whining about halo-level prices, how about you WAIT for the RX 7800 XT which will probably be about $350 less than the 7900 XT but less than 10% slower. That's how it works with Radeons. If you don't believe me, look up the performance difference between the RX 6800 XT and the RX 6900 XT on TechPowerUp. Then look at the two MSRPs. You'll see that one was $999 and one was $649. So, instead of crying about how much the RX 7900 XTX is, how about you just buy SMARTER? It's not exactly rocket science you know.
@VoltanIgor
@VoltanIgor Год назад
I think the 4080 is a great card. It is a beast, with great power efficiency. Sure, the pricing is rather bad, but everybody seems to be considering the US situation. I live in Eastern Europe and here, the price of the last generation never even got close to MSRP - with the mining fever and the scalpers, all gpus were ridiculously expensive. It is nothing new for us. It is also often said that there is no point buying the 4080 because with just a little stretch, you can get the 4090 and it is stronger. Again, might be true in the US, but not in my area. Here, the 4090 costs a good 40% extra over the 4080, that really does not make it a "little stretch" or even a good deal. I decided picking up a 4080 - for a quite good local price - I play on 1440p, with no plans to go over to 4k anytime soon, so this card is going to be perfect for me for a looong time. I could also put it in my current rig, with plans of upgrading the rest sometime next year. I couldn´t have done that with the 4090. Also, the price difference between the 2 gpus just simply did not justify the 4090 to be a good choice. Definitely not in my region.
@_MicraN_
@_MicraN_ Год назад
Keep in mind MSRP doesn't include tax while prices in Europe do
@Gaetano.94
@Gaetano.94 Год назад
Exactly. I got the 4080 because the 4090 here in Canada would be $700 atleast before taxes more than the cheapest 4080.
@Gaetano.94
@Gaetano.94 Год назад
Hey I play at 4K on my 4080, so even if you wanted to go to 4K you'd be fine. I get 75-95fps on Overdrive on cyberpunk with DLSS and FG, while the 4090 gets around 100-120. The 4080 is amazing for 4K and you'd love it.
@tomr3319
@tomr3319 Год назад
I agree it's the best alternative to the 4090, Prices have gone up on everything lately don't understand this nonsense about pricing,.
@Gaetano.94
@Gaetano.94 Год назад
@@tomr3319 keeps the trash away atleast
@21stcenturybohemian
@21stcenturybohemian Год назад
GTX 1080=$600.00. RTX 4080=$1200. Change in cost=200%. General inflation over last five years=22%. Greed? naaaaahhhhh.
@SunioMc
@SunioMc Год назад
I'm still waiting for AMD because the graphs showed the 6950XT giving a decent fight to a 3090 TI so I'm wondering how strong of a fight the 7900 XTX is going to put up.
@toddbair9347
@toddbair9347 Год назад
Even at a conservative +50% compared to the 6950XT, the 7900 XTX should beat the 4080 in raster pretty comfortably in both 4k and 1440p, but we'll see.
@dethtour
@dethtour Год назад
@@toddbair9347 yeah and at a lower price, lower power consumption, current 8pin connectors, smaller size, and more compatability with most peoples setups.
@yourmomslover1
@yourmomslover1 Год назад
The 6950 beat the 3090 ti on 1440p
@yourmomslover1
@yourmomslover1 Год назад
@@SpartanArmy117 it's a rly good card if you can find it on special
@alister3882
@alister3882 Год назад
@@toddbair9347 it does bit them in the prices, a couple hundreds of dollars is a big difference.
@RLT12
@RLT12 Год назад
6950xt performance on non-RT games is pretty impressive to see in those tests. Especially considering its price compared to the Nvidia cards.
@omarcomming722
@omarcomming722 Год назад
What price, it's still selling for 1000€+ everywhere around me
@DanWalt
@DanWalt Год назад
@@omarcomming722 899€ in Germany right now. Thats actually a steal
@omarcomming722
@omarcomming722 Год назад
@@DanWalt Damn that is def a steal. I love that first world countries with 3-5 times the purchasing power of devloping ones also have lower prices on tech and basically everything aside from real estate
@Astrotripper2000
@Astrotripper2000 Год назад
@@omarcomming722 900 EUR here. Which is around 1000 EUR less than 4080, so...
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
I don't even know why Jay bothered testing the RX 6900 XT. He didn't even mention it once. He's such a shill for nVidia that he makes Linus appear honest in comparison.
@chrismdavis2009
@chrismdavis2009 Год назад
It probably would have been a good idea to mention to your viewers that AMD’s 7900XTX may end up trading blows with the RTX 4080 for $200 less Just for those that don’t pay attention like the rest of us to do.
@fajaradi1223
@fajaradi1223 Год назад
Allegedly (with high possibility)
@pocketdust2450
@pocketdust2450 Год назад
7900XTX is 8% slower than a 4090 at 4K in Cyberjunk 2077, a game which typically favors Nvidia. Reference 7900XTX is underclocked by 500Mhz and 150W, and is missing an 8-pin connector compared to AIBs. If the 7900XTX can get as close as 10% in 4K gaming, that means we will be getting around equal 1440p, and better 1080p than the 4090. AMD cards are always better at lower resolutions than 4K.
@xTurtleOW
@xTurtleOW Год назад
@@pocketdust2450 7900xtx def wont be near 4090 but it still will be way better value Wise
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace Год назад
Or that the 7900xtx will end up trading blows (and losing) to the rtx 4060 in games like Microsoft flight Sim, because no dlss3 - at least until FSR3 gets here. Yeah that would ALSO be good to mention. Because anyone wanting to go amd should know how badly behind even their top card will be in dlss3 games But apparently the main feature of the cards is unfavourable to the narrative of the review so is omitted. Because the reviewers wouldn't want you to know that a 4080 will take your ms fs 2020 4k framerates from 50 fps in new York to something like 100 fps (or 150fps with a 4090), while every 3000 series and amd card will be stuck at 50 fps because it lacks dlss3 It would be good to know for people wanting a card for that game Same story in cyberpunk
@chrismdavis2009
@chrismdavis2009 Год назад
@@Tom--Ace right, but not every game supports DLSS 3, and not everyone will want to use DLSS 3. Which is usually why we use pure rasterization for benchmarks, although DLSS 3 is a really good improvement over 2. FSR 3 isn’t out yet, but when I comes out, it may be able to trade blows with DLSS 3. There are talks that FSR 3 may utilize AI, especially considering how much of an FPS boost AMD is saying it gives. All speculation though, AMDs cards haven’t been reviewed and FSR 3 isn’t out yet.
@EarlywineJC
@EarlywineJC Год назад
I love the iFixIt kit, and especially your sponsor segment for them! Also, please put the metal into the chart music rotation more often. I love it!
@Keeki549
@Keeki549 10 месяцев назад
Tf does your comment have to do with the video
@Piketom1
@Piketom1 Год назад
In terms of pure cost to performance, the 4090 is a better value than the 4080. They are both very expensive and neither is an objectively good value but the 4090 is worth the cost premium over the 4080. Having said that, many of us just buy what suits our needs and don't buy the flagship product if we don't need it. I went with the 4080 because it was still a massive upgrade over my 3080 and chose not to spend the extra for the 4090. I am still able to max out the refresh rate of my 4K, 144HZ display in games like Forza Horizon 5 even with the graphics settings turned up to max. The card still allows me to use ray tracing ultra in games like Cyberpunk 2077 at 4K and average 70FPS. For 4K gaming, the 4080 is a great option even if it is a terrible value.
@MaksKuaka
@MaksKuaka Год назад
Yeah and for anyone with 3d rendering workflows, nvidia is still gonna be miles ahead for most software. Even new flagship amd gpus would be a downgrade to my 3070ti. That's a big reason I just opted to get the suprim 4080 for ~1100
@matthewwarlin7421
@matthewwarlin7421 Год назад
So it’s roughly 40-50% faster than the 3080 for 72% more money.
@HaggyGT
@HaggyGT Год назад
Everyone keeps saying things like this but it's even worse than that, a new gen replacing an older card should be the exact same price, a 4080 should cost the same as a 3080 did at launch, if the price of every new 80 card being released goes up in price this much, by 2030 cards will cost $4000 each.. Nvidia fanboys are so stupid they dont see what they're supporting because they're mind controlled sheep
@ChrisZukowski88
@ChrisZukowski88 Год назад
opposite of progress.
@johng4357
@johng4357 Год назад
And that's just at the FE price. The only ones you'll actually be able to buy will be $1300-1400. Basically 100% more money for 50% more performance
@ChrisZukowski88
@ChrisZukowski88 Год назад
@@johng4357 1300 is a very conservative number. 4090 prices for a 4080 and suckers will still gobble up those cards without chewing.
@shizzyfox
@shizzyfox Год назад
A brand new 3090 in Sweden is around 1700-2400 usd and a 4090 is around 1900-2700 usd. These prices are insane!
@AMdrew
@AMdrew Год назад
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 I live in Romania. And I bought a new 3070 in december for 200$ more than my car is worth.
@shizzyfox
@shizzyfox Год назад
@@adrenalinejunkie3828 Yeah no kidding! The Swedish high technology tax mixed with Nvidias eye gouging prices come out as dodo at the end!
@shizzyfox
@shizzyfox Год назад
@@AMdrew Send me a 3090ti haha
@AMdrew
@AMdrew Год назад
@@shizzyfox The cheapest 3090ti that I could find here is 1775 EUROs, Brand New with 3 years warranty. The Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Ti AMP Extreme Holo.
@shizzyfox
@shizzyfox Год назад
@@AMdrew ah okay, I don't find it worth it then. If I add 2-300beuros more I could get a 4090. But thanks for looking it up! You the real MVP
@miguelcollado5438
@miguelcollado5438 Год назад
I'm more surprised at how good the 6950XT still is in these charts
@muchossaugus9927
@muchossaugus9927 Год назад
True. Just a shame that AMDs driver is still garbage, especially in comparison to Nvidias and stuff like Nvidia Inspektor, SGSSAA, etc. As an enthusiast, AMD sadly isnt relevant due to the lack of driver tweaking.
@ImperatorBaldo
@ImperatorBaldo Год назад
Well, isn't it supposed to compare to a 3090? Of the 6950x had to be relevant. Otherwise amd would be complete dog shit, which it is actually
@TRX25EX
@TRX25EX Год назад
Yeah but issue is, since these cards make 4K look so easy to run, it's stupid not to run Ray Tracing now, I have 4090 and literally I get CPU bottleneck anytime Ray Tracing is off, so RTX sort of becoming a free feature not like before cost so much performance to run
@ajwittenbrink
@ajwittenbrink Год назад
Have you tried the new driver set since 2020? i mean they are damn good now.
@hufthenerd7135
@hufthenerd7135 Год назад
@@muchossaugus9927 Have you used the drivers this year? Cause there is a lot of tweaking options. Plus you don't need an account to use any locked features.
@RuxUnderscore
@RuxUnderscore Год назад
I have a 2080 Super and would love to see the performance metrics of 20-series compared to 40-series. A lot of us didn't get a 30-series because of the GPU shortages going on.
@laterwell
@laterwell Год назад
As you say, I am happy I feel lucky to have gotten a 3080
@malkav0488
@malkav0488 Год назад
Seconded, for many it's like 30 serie didn't exist, and many 1080ti are still running too
@Siegefya
@Siegefya Год назад
Yeah I have a 2070. Usually wait 2 gens regardless for a new card...but 20 series suck at this point in a lot of games. MW2 Im hardly getting 120 fps with lower settings at 1080p on my 2070.
@messiahshow
@messiahshow Год назад
@@Siegefya Yes, it's a shit game and poorly optimized. Don't let one crappy game determine if your GPU is weak though. My 2080 Super eats everything else I throw at it. But like you say, I get around 110 fps tops except in Gulag in Warzone 2.0 and it dips to 70 often so that is depressing. It really is just lazy ass devs though just not taking time to optimize their games.
@Siegefya
@Siegefya Год назад
@@messiahshow see i wasn't even aware that it was poorly optimized, thanks for the information. my 2070 is ok, but tbh I don't know if I can skip another generation...usually I get a new card ever 2 gens, so idk we'll see.
@CyberUK
@CyberUK Год назад
Jay's iFixit ad is the only ad (across all youtubers) that I always let run right through without skipping - very funny (great for viewers) & that's got to be fantastic for the advertiser (we actually listen to the sponsor).
@twithnell
@twithnell Год назад
I still feel like 1440p is the sweet spot for gaming. My 3080 12GB card does a fantastic job still.
@Dominian1
@Dominian1 Год назад
Absolutely. I got 1440p ultra wide (3440x1440) and my 2080 is still sufficient for basically anything. I'm planning to get a 7900 XTX and then I should get insane FPS for a long time. No need for 4k here.
@jedpratte
@jedpratte Год назад
Yep. 1440p high refresh here. My 3080 does great.
@Amfibios
@Amfibios Год назад
STILL does a fantastic job? dude you have one of the best cards in the market, don't talk as if you have a 1060 in you system xD
@GigaChadAlucard
@GigaChadAlucard Год назад
yea i got my 3080ti around the beginning of the year cus it was on clearance (which considering the gpu crisis was still goin, was probably the right call to snag), and its still truckin on for 1440p and even 4k
@twithnell
@twithnell Год назад
@@Amfibios not to diminish what I have, just meaning, I have no reason to upgrade anytime soon.
@PoRRasturvaT
@PoRRasturvaT Год назад
0 improvement in perf/price over the 3090Ti where it is listed it's just so much more expensive Nvidia just fudged the numbers with frame generation shit. You know it doesn't retail at msrp
@vidyamancer7135
@vidyamancer7135 Год назад
Yeah NVIDIA seems to think there should be a 1:1 ratio between any performance increase and price. Fucking ridiculous.
@OscyJack-
@OscyJack- Год назад
At least it's still an upgrade! The price performance ratio is something that's different for anyone when they include their own value ratio
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 Год назад
I had a 3090ti and now a 4090 for work in 3D Studio Max and Unreal Engine and Graphic Design projects, but I have to admit AMD did a heck of a job on so many angles from technology and production to Prices and made no real promises they would have to back track on. AMD nailed that pricing and Spec/Performance point.
@timgibney5590
@timgibney5590 Год назад
A quadro would be better for your use case with professional software and would have it's own SSD for big frame buffers and would cost the same as your 3090ti and 4090 combined
@deshawn4077
@deshawn4077 Год назад
How big of a improvement is the 4090 in 3D Studio Max?
@KJV0812
@KJV0812 Год назад
Sitting here with a 6700xt powercolor card completely satisfied. I have never understood this 4k crze when 1440p makes more sense.
@comanzo6244
@comanzo6244 Год назад
I have to respectfully disagree with Jay’s take on this review. Regardless of the power cord melting issues, which in it’s own right, is an embarrassment that it hasn’t been thoroughly tested before being sent out to the public, the price is utterly atrocious. It’s not even “subjective”. The bang for your $ is laughable. You should expect better performance at each generation with incremental price jumps at worst.A 3080 msrp was $700. A markup to $1200 doesn’t justify the performance jump, that’s already expected because it’s the next generation. I really hope people wake up to this, it’s sad enough as it is that we’ve move from 980ti’s msrp of $650 to now a 4080 (not a 4080ti) having such an egregious jump.
@Brian-iz9sh
@Brian-iz9sh Год назад
Jay always got some banger beats on his graphs. I need a playlist of all your tunes mate.
@explosivefruits
@explosivefruits Год назад
For reallll
@imranakhtarsyed798
@imranakhtarsyed798 Год назад
Anyone knows the track name?
@tomcat4195
@tomcat4195 Год назад
@@imranakhtarsyed798 "Space Out" by Vincent Vega
@imranakhtarsyed798
@imranakhtarsyed798 Год назад
@@tomcat4195 Thank you!!
@theRemedyGames
@theRemedyGames Год назад
Jay, just for the record, Lovelace is not 4nm. It's "4N" which is just a slightly improved version of 5nm...but it's still 5nm.
@triparadox.c
@triparadox.c Год назад
Oh my God. Are we really about to go down this path like 4G LTE (not meeting official 4G requirements because it's "long term evolution")? It's all bullshit marketing once again. At least intel, with their 14nm+++, actually calls it 14nm.
@theRemedyGames
@theRemedyGames Год назад
@@triparadox.c I'm sorry what? I'm saying Jay called it 4nm. That's a physical property difference from 5nm, a completely different node. It's completely different. 4N is what Nvidia uses, which is 5nm. Ur not making any sense.
@j78823
@j78823 Год назад
@@theRemedyGames 5nm isn't really 5nm in TSMC. Only Intel "was" telling the turth.
@aerosw1ft
@aerosw1ft Год назад
Fr, semiconductor manufacturers calling their shit "Nx" or "xN" is so misleading. No other reason i see to call it "4N" other than to make people think that it's 4nm.
@theRemedyGames
@theRemedyGames Год назад
@@j78823 I get that. But it's still called 5nm, so calling it 4nm would be incorrect regardless. That's all I'm saying.
@ai_gaming_official8469
@ai_gaming_official8469 Год назад
im personally waiting to see the AMD offering, and too see reviews... lets hope AMD comes out and slaps Nvidia arounds a little in the 4080 price range.
@608_diesel
@608_diesel Год назад
I bought a 4080 FE, not concerned with the connector, I don't think it can draw enough power to burn it up as you mentioned. Very satisfied with the performance, I game @ 1440p and every game I play with ultra settings I'm seeing nearly 200 FPS at all times paired with a 7700X.
@isaacevans5893
@isaacevans5893 Год назад
question, i’m currently trying to build a setup with the exact same cpu/gpu, would you mind telling me the rest of your build? it would save me some time in research.
@MrDodobir
@MrDodobir Год назад
@@isaacevans5893 I recently upgraded to 4080 from 2080 ti. My cpu is i9 9900k with 32 gb 3600 mhz ram. I have great fps at ultra settings at pretty much every game at 1440p as well. Just make sure you have a case that you can fit a 4080 without any issues cuz it comes with the same size as 4090!
@rcavicchijr
@rcavicchijr Год назад
The 2080 had an msrp of $699. The 3080 had an msrp of $699. The 4080 is $1199 - &1499 This is not subjectively bad pricing. This is objectively awfull. Comparing it's price and price to performance to a 2 generation old flagship (that was a bad deal at the time) to make it sound good is a huge mental stretch. To the point where you're being dishonest with yourself. Using that logic: the 3080 ti was a great deal at $1200; when it should have been the $1500 3090 if not $2000 3090ti at that price.
@joshg9258
@joshg9258 Год назад
I managed to grab a 3080 fe at the end of March, right before availability picked up. Once it did I started to question my purchase slightly. Ever since the 40 series launch, I feel better about my purchase each day.
@Coops896
@Coops896 Год назад
I just got a 3080 for $680. I am so happy with the upgrade and glad I got it for a reasonable price. After 5 years of an RX480 it feels like I just upgraded my bicycle to a corvette
@MrAlejandro1ro
@MrAlejandro1ro Год назад
Most definitely does. I jumped from RX580 to a 2080 Super. It blew my socks off lol co grass man.
@rivershen8199
@rivershen8199 Год назад
It's sad as fuck that getting the 3080 for its MSRP more than 2 years after the launch is considered lucky
@DragonDawn85
@DragonDawn85 Год назад
For the price to performance metric, I'm holding off until next month to see how the 7900XT does. I don't really care about Real Time Raytracing, so I feel like AMD's cards will be a better value proposition for me looking for a rasterized native 4K gaming card. Assuming they perform well once reviews are out that is.
@Tom--Ace
@Tom--Ace Год назад
What is the most difficult to run title you intend to play? That's what it's all about If you want the best cyberpunk experience, can't go past 4000 series. Raytracing definitely makes the game look a lot better. If you like Microsoft flight Sim 2020, you definitely want 4000 series. Dlss3 is a game changer here. Even a 4060 or 4070 will run the game better than a 7900xtx. If neither of those games matters to you, and you are playing games like red dead redemption or GTA 5 etc, then 7900xtx is a great value choice, although you should really ask if you need such a powerful card for comparatively easy to run games - modern games are generally hard to run when using RT, not rasterisation. If you like VR and want the best possible VR fps, then 7900xtx may be a good choice, we will have to see reviews, although 4090 stands head and shoulders above the others here. However, depending on resolution, a 24gb card such as the 3090 might actually outperform the 7900xtx or 4080 in VR (we will have to see), due to the very high vram requirements at extreme VR resolutions (the 3080 and amd 6000 series were terrible compared to the 3090 in VR)
@imrileth6618
@imrileth6618 Год назад
Same for me. I don't care about raytracing yet. When games begin using raytracing as the whole lighting system it'll look amazing and i'll start caring about it, at its current form its just used for horribly performing shadow or reflection setting in games.
@tbnzet
@tbnzet Год назад
Jay: "The price of the 4080 is subjective" --- No. It's simply bad. Unless your name is Jensen. Launch prices: GTX 1080: $599 --- 2080: $699 --- 3080: $699 --- 4080: $1199. How is that insane price jump subjective in any way? I mean, even with the high inflation and the increase in VRAM etc., $999 would be pushing it. I fear that next we'll hear - The 4070 has 80% more performance than the 3070, so the $899 price seems reasonable...
@mohammadhussien5223
@mohammadhussien5223 Год назад
The only "con" in this card is it's price man :/
@spammusubi9004
@spammusubi9004 Год назад
At $1299? Naw I’ll just wait to see how the 7900xt and xtx perform no rush to let Nvidia rip us off
@eliashabash7591
@eliashabash7591 Год назад
It’s 1,199 actually
@spammusubi9004
@spammusubi9004 Год назад
@@eliashabash7591 😅
@ClellBiggs
@ClellBiggs Год назад
We're going to have to wait until they release a $700 card to get a real idea of how the 40 series compares to the 30. I'm guessing that will be the 4060 or 4070 and it will be in the same ballpark as the 3080, so basically no actual gen on gen increase. They really haven't left themselves much room to beat the more reasonably priced 30 series cards.
@eliashabash7591
@eliashabash7591 Год назад
They don’t want to beat the 30 series That’s the point They have an inventory problem and need to clear stock. A cheap 4080 would kill the 30 series and that’s what they DONT want At least for now
@ClellBiggs
@ClellBiggs Год назад
@@eliashabash7591 What happens then? The 30 series cards will sell out eventually and they'll have to release the lower tier 40 series cards. Once that happens they will have put themselves in a difficult position.
@gwynbleidd7177
@gwynbleidd7177 Год назад
@@ClellBiggs Nvidia already holds their inventory and trickle their stock out to vendors. Both Best Buy and MicroCenter reported this. They're barely seeing 30 series cards come in and its not due to stock issues. Its because the 40 series launched and they want you to buy those up. They are tracking their vendors and sending what they need to where so its the ONLY thing on the shelf. They are creating a false shortage knowing it'll get bought out by the desperate.
@poyeep6123
@poyeep6123 Год назад
@@eliashabash7591 In that $700 bracket you looking for GF4050 cards with this series.
@Moonbogg
@Moonbogg Год назад
It will be a 4060 that performs like a 3070 for the price of a 3080.
@Nareimooncatt
@Nareimooncatt Год назад
Given what the 7900XT and XTX is supposed to offer, Nvidia really doesn't interest me much anymore. With the 30 series, I would've went with them because the raw performance is needed for the game I primarily run. The 40 series and 7000 series look to be able to meet my needs without having to go top of the line, and the AMD pricing looks to be the deciding factor.
@lyianx
@lyianx Год назад
Is that game more favoring nvidia than amd?
@Nareimooncatt
@Nareimooncatt Год назад
@@lyianx maybe, but nothing earth shattering. It's the new Microsoft Flight Sim, and I use a 4k60 monitor. With a 3080ti, it would just barely hit 60fps on ultra settings, and that's without ray tracing (which the game doesn't have). The 6950 XT runs about 50-55 fps if I'm not mistaken, and I start to notice jittery motion at 50fps. Not screen tearing as I have free sync on, but things just take a noticeable dive in smoothness between frames. I'm not interested in things like FSR, DLSS, and frame generation. I can't make use of anything over 60 fps anyway, and I prefer keeping resolution native if possible for the best image quality.
@uroboros4428
@uroboros4428 Год назад
People in comment section saying the prices are insane yet they brag about owning 3090TIs and such like....are you a clown or something?
@ezpz4659
@ezpz4659 Год назад
Honestly, I bought a 7900xtx to give AMD a chance, what a stuttering mess that was about as good as my 3070ti in VR. Bought a 4080. Buttery smooth, and it literally fit in my case with half an inch to spare. Couldnt go 4090 even if i wanted to, because my psu is 850 and my case isnt big enough. I am so happy with my 4080
@rando_bacon
@rando_bacon Год назад
I don’t think the price is there for it to be worth it. I’ll be looking into the new AMD cards to see if the performance is there for the $1K price point.
@Ragnar0321
@Ragnar0321 Год назад
Are the NVIDIA card to expensive hell yeah no one can say otherwise but I hate AMD they have always sucked balls in the GPU department in my opinion. They also suck at updating drivers pretty bad they might be ok I guess in the midrange but yeah that just my opinion.
@antoinedenis9922
@antoinedenis9922 Год назад
@@Ragnar0321 so bad it trade blows with a 3090Ti while costing msrp 400$ less with no driver issue as they used to. but sure they suck maybe try to open your eyes for a change
@Ragnar0321
@Ragnar0321 Год назад
@@antoinedenis9922 why get so but hurt over a comment? Maybe get a life and learn to accept others opinion I never stated they were facts. Yes on benchmarks they might trade blows but from what I personally seen with friends that have amd the games we play tends to run at lower fps and have some stability issues. Also to me amd sucked and are still bad as issuing drivers for fixes or new games.
@ChrisZukowski88
@ChrisZukowski88 Год назад
@@antoinedenis9922 R Kelly is that you? you flat out pissed on him and he said that its raining. always nice to see a sucker get pawned.
@awsm253
@awsm253 Год назад
I'm still seeing some diehard Nvidia fans going 'great card Nvidia wins'... yeah almost double the msrp of a 3080 is disgusting
@dkpolonski
@dkpolonski Год назад
Was planning to wait and see for the 7800xt, but a 6900xt TUF went on sale for $800CAD at my local computer store and I jumped on it (upgrading from a 1650 super). Was sold out throughout Canada the next day, so I think I made the right call.
@dethtour
@dethtour Год назад
That's a solid card. Its basically a 3080ti. The ray tracing isn't a good. But you get more raw fps and the 16gb will make your card last you longer
@TheUniversalEyes
@TheUniversalEyes Год назад
@@dethtour The 6900xt is far beyond the 3080ti.
@hburners361
@hburners361 Год назад
​@@TheUniversalEyes Show the bench
@TheUniversalEyes
@TheUniversalEyes Год назад
Hardware Unboxed @@hburners361
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus
@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus Год назад
@@hburners361 Passmark G3D; 6900xt@26,000, 3080@25,000, 3080ti@27,000. So they're all stacked up pretty close.
@therevanchist1123
@therevanchist1123 Год назад
Would be an amazing card at $800 which would be $100 over the MSRP of the 3080 (for increased production cost) but at $1,199 I can’t stomach a $400 increase. The card is really good but as long as the prices are the way they are I’ll stay with the 3080 until things get back to a norm or I’ll just go second hand when next Gen hits or find a good open box refurb deal just can’t spend that much it’s insane, and I’m not just putting this on Nvidia because AMD is and will take advantage just not as much.
@dharkbizkit
@dharkbizkit Год назад
i see it this way: in germany, the msrp for the card is 1470€. the KFA2 costum card, goes for 1999€. in 2017, i paid 512€ for my gtx 1080. its just insane. think about what that means for 4070 and 4060 pricing. there could very well be a 800€ 4060ti
@sidra_games4551
@sidra_games4551 Год назад
Assuming the AMD cards come in about where everyone is expecting...this generation will be 4090 when you want best of the best and don't care about cost, or one of the 2 new AMD if you want a step below that but at much less cost. The 4080 at this price point just doesn't seem to fit anywhere.
@brandon10301991
@brandon10301991 Год назад
Bet you didnt buy your 3080 at 800 though. Be honest. You spent at least 1200
@FatetalityXI
@FatetalityXI Год назад
@@brandon10301991 I bet you could rake that money back by mining as well.
@Garagantua
@Garagantua Год назад
@@brandon10301991 The only person I know who bought a 3080 bought it at 800€ (so slightly above MSRP) just after launch. Another friend & I went with the 6900XT.
@drganknstein
@drganknstein Год назад
I've been a Nvidia guy for a long time but they priced me out.
@12Burton24
@12Burton24 Год назад
Amd did too
@omegacon4
@omegacon4 Год назад
PCMR indeed.
@dude9237
@dude9237 Год назад
Please always include 1080p fps in your videos. I will probably rock 360+hz monitors in 1080p for a very long time. These benchmarks really help with knowing the fps difference
@xRaptorScreamx
@xRaptorScreamx Год назад
From all these Graphs i'm surprised that the 6950 is fighting so well with the 3090ti, or even beating it.
@lyianx
@lyianx Год назад
Why does that surprise you? The 6950 has always been on par with the 3090, trading blows depending on the game. Nvidia fanboys would have you believe its not as good though and that AMD "wasnt completing" when they really were. The only thing thats holding them back now is RT performance, and id still bet that the majority of people dont play with RT on the vast majority of the time.
@sparkymark75
@sparkymark75 Год назад
I'm not. The AMD cards are great for raster in a lot of games. It's only RT that lets it down but thats still a niche.
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 Год назад
6950XT got slept on. It punches pretty hard. It was just hard to get as supply was rather low.
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 Год назад
And AMD fanboys would tell you that it's better than a 3090 TI and leave out the fact that the drivers have suffered terribly, black screen issues, FPS drops, Inconsistencies all around.
@Kmaitland89
@Kmaitland89 Год назад
Some of those graphs had the 3090 ti beating the 6950 by over 20 FPS.... ONE graph had the 6950 beating the 3090 TI by 9 FPS with Tomb Raider... That's not competing in my book.
@AncalimeNL
@AncalimeNL Год назад
curious to see where the RX 7900 XTX slots in this chart.... If I take 1,5x RX 6950XT it most of the times gets between the 4090 and the 4080.... If that's true, that would be a very nice deal..
@tonydalimata
@tonydalimata Год назад
Yep this , and with RT comparable to the 3080ti?
@rare6499
@rare6499 Год назад
So pleased with my £700 6950XT. Love to see it doing so well in the charts, outside of RT it’s an amazing card. Even with RT, it’s often circa 2080Ti levels of performance which I’m more than fine with.
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 Год назад
Good choice my friend
@thesockdoctorr
@thesockdoctorr Год назад
Where in the U.K. did you get that for £700?
@LJDMabc
@LJDMabc Год назад
@@thesockdoctorr ive seen the 6900xt around that price on overclockers UK right now
@alphazero6571
@alphazero6571 Год назад
No one gives a f about rt
@smjsuperscott
@smjsuperscott Год назад
I picked up a 6800XT for 515$ a couple weeks ago and it's everything I could ever need and am so happy I got an amazing card for under a third of that disgusting 4090
@ShadowNexis
@ShadowNexis Год назад
The 4080 is a very good $800 card.
@subject8776
@subject8776 Год назад
I wish.
@USAF-AMMO-461X0
@USAF-AMMO-461X0 Год назад
Military exchange $1199 no tax… I went from a 3700x and a 2070 super to the 4080 FE and 7700x what an incredible Leap in DCS and MSFS..performance
@StonedAF101
@StonedAF101 Год назад
The last time building a pc was this expensive consoles used to rule... time to go back to consoles I guess. I can get an xbox and a playstation for the price of 1 gpu LOL
@ofensatul
@ofensatul Год назад
and a yearly game pass for both.
@SJ-wf8tk
@SJ-wf8tk Год назад
I was holding out to get a 40 series but came across a used 3080 for about 500USD. Picked it up. I’m happy with the performance at 4K too. If I manage to sell my 2060 at about 200USD, overall it’d be a great deal.
@kalef1234
@kalef1234 Год назад
Good call. Let latest gen sit on shelves
@popcornfilms1
@popcornfilms1 Год назад
Good call again. Buying used, don’t give these cunts another dime.
@RedeemedNick
@RedeemedNick Год назад
Used 😬😬lets hope it was not mined to death
@S2GamesBench
@S2GamesBench Год назад
Brand new 2060 super goes for 260usd, old 2060 won't sell for 200
@doc-holliday-
@doc-holliday- Год назад
Yea im snagging a 3080ti for 400 used as well. And no it was not used as a mining card. Otherwise i'd be looking at AMD for sure. Nvidia can f right off with their price gouging.
@sevsnk3043
@sevsnk3043 Год назад
Nvidia: We need to stop scalping! .... and do the scalping ourselves!
@isaacespapa1
@isaacespapa1 Год назад
Jay's ifixit commercial always cracks me up..."Don't drop it...you can't fix that with ifixit, just kidding, yes you caaaaaaaaaaaaaan!"
@jakerichey4658
@jakerichey4658 Год назад
Last year I did 3 builds. Two with a 3080Ti FE, 3090 FE, Asus ROG 6900xt. I'll be doing all AMD builds again in the future after seeing and feeling the difference of what I felt to be true performance of that card over the Nvidia software uplift.
@CrabJuice83
@CrabJuice83 Год назад
Far too expensive to my liking - waiting on the 7900 XTX numbers before I decide on the path. Staying on my current card is still very much a plan too.
@Blacksadify
@Blacksadify Год назад
That extra $200 for a fully fleshed out feature set is just a bridge too far, eh? lol
@alletseolrac
@alletseolrac Год назад
20 years down the line I wanna see someone make a house out of these GPU "bricks" XD
@alkoyyy
@alkoyyy Год назад
20 years down the line graphics cards will be more expensive than an actual house
@vin.k.k
@vin.k.k Год назад
20 years down the line we'll have APUs rulling
@JR-zm7ju
@JR-zm7ju Год назад
20 years from now gpu will as big as house door
@Brogboolius_Maximus
@Brogboolius_Maximus Год назад
I'm not worried about the adapter on that 3080 since as you showed its power draw is rather significantly lower, and that is an impressive showing considering the CUDA core difference between the 80 and 90, but I'm still mad at Nvidia for all the crap they've been pulling recently and their ridiculous treatment of AIBs. So, despite the fact that I've been on team green since the days of the 8800, I'm waiting for AMD's showing this time around. Based on the 6950's performance, there's easily enough room there for the 7900XTX to come out swinging and eat some of Nvidia's lunch. They just have to stick the landing.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
The power draw in the adapter isn't the issue. The bend on them was causing breaks in the metal internals of the connector itself. Because the two conductors were so close together, the current was arcing between them. Since air is an insulator, when electricity passes through it, there is tremendous friction, light and heat. That's how arc welders and lightning bolts work. It doesn't matter how much current in this case because even 100W would melt plastic when arcing.
@siinstroze8274
@siinstroze8274 Год назад
Seeing how the 6950xt is around $800 rn and can hold up that well Is incredible and having the 7900xtx coming soon at around 1k, I feel AMD is gonna end up winning this time around even if it doesn't give the same FPS and speeds as the 4090
@Peylix
@Peylix Год назад
I went with the 4080 FE to retire my EVGA 1080Ti SC. I wasn't happy about the cost, and I would have gone with the 4090 instead, but that's even more. Plus I would have needed to upgrade my 850w PSU as well. I've been happy with my 4080 though. Compared to my 1080Ti, it's a HUGE leap up. I hope AMD kicks themselves into gear though. I'd love to move from Team Green to Team Red to pair with my 5900x. But they still lack too much on FSR & RT. They also slack on video encode/transcode. Plex doesn't even support AMD cards for HW ac either unfortunately. Maybe when the time comes to refresh my 4080, AMD will have met or surpassed Nvidia. Time will tell. For now though, I'm loving the 4080 FE. My bank account wants to kill me though lol
@africanricc3458
@africanricc3458 7 месяцев назад
The 4080 will be more than enough until the 60 series comes out then you snag the 4090 for a much lower price and be set damn near forever….as long as ur fine with playing at no higher than 3-4K
@immersivesinner3350
@immersivesinner3350 Год назад
I really want to see the 7900 XTX benchmarks for comparison. My new rig is going to have one of these big flagship cards. I never really seriously considered the 4090 the way I did consider the 3090 almost 2 years ago. the 4080 seems like a really great spot, but I am also very tempted by the 7900 XTX. I want to see that comparison because I do think it's between those 2 cards for me.
@zvwc
@zvwc Год назад
Honestly it depends on the game you play, the 7900 is better in some games but the 4080 performs better on average, the 7900 also lacks raytracing performance and has many issues in vr and issues with drivers that will hopefully be fixed, I’d wait until the 7900 xtx settles and decide from there
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 Год назад
Wow! Looking at just straight up gaming maxed out without raytracying and seeing what the 6950XT was doing compared to the 3090/3090ti. Makes me wonder just how the 7900XT will perform with its 20gigs / infinity cache / and most importantly 320-bit bus. Not to mention the 7900XTX. Keeping in mind they said the XTX is the 4080 competitor.
@davidmaguire4504
@davidmaguire4504 Год назад
I am now in the position to build an entirely new system. For the first time ever I am leaning towards an all AMD setup. I am upgrading from an Intel 4670k with 970 nvidia. I understand that no matter what I choose it will be a significant increase in performance.
@davidwildberger6656
@davidwildberger6656 Год назад
12100 i3 100dollars board 80 dollars used rx5700xt $140 or 6600xt $230 you can get a ton of performance for cheap
@DarkReturns1
@DarkReturns1 Год назад
I had that exact same system lol. Your jaw is gonna smack the floor when you see the performance difference in your new computer
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
It'll be HUGE. I mean, I've upgraded TWICE since my R9 Fury and even it beats the 970 handily (Hell it even beat the 980).
@MykeBinaryMan
@MykeBinaryMan Год назад
I feel a lot more confident in the 4080 as a product but the price point is way out of what I feel is reasonable for my needs. I currently have a 3070 and don't see changing that for at least a few more years.
@tviray25
@tviray25 Год назад
I have a 3070 this gonna be good for my gaming needs for near a decade.
@c.s127
@c.s127 Год назад
When you see the GPU Performance ITS really more a 4070 than a 4080..
@Siegefya
@Siegefya Год назад
I got a 2070 and it's about time to level up, I wouldn't count on that few more years thing... my 2070 is lagging behind hard at this point.
@haltux
@haltux Год назад
Only for VR all these new overpriced cards really make sense. On a monitor, even a big one, WQHD is more than enough and therefore you 3070 is more than enough as well. Why so many people spend so much money on these cards considering VR remains a niche, that is a mystery.
@conqueringbarbell2101
@conqueringbarbell2101 Год назад
Nvidia thinks they can justify these prices because of what happened 2 years ago; the US gov't sent out stimulus money, people were staying at home due to Covid (more time to play games), and also before the crypto crash. This generation is just ludicrous with it's FE pricing let alone the AIB prices. No thanks, I'll pass. I'm hoping the 7900xtx will be somewhere in between the 4080-4090 benchmark numbers and the 7900xt will be right on par with the 4080. Even at $999, that is still pricey.
@BritishTom
@BritishTom Год назад
Waiting to see AMDs new cards in action before even thinking of upgrading
@dako91196
@dako91196 Год назад
I am quite proud to be a new AMD GPU owner at this moment
@BCKammen
@BCKammen Год назад
I am still waiting on the reviews of the AMD GPU's when they finally roll out. So no matter what I will save my money for now.
@tichaclin
@tichaclin Год назад
😂 😂 Save ya dollar bro.... Outside is aggressive.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
One of the smartest comments to this video that I've read. BRAVO!
@lucapistellato3498
@lucapistellato3498 Год назад
I was going for the 4080 until AMD announced the 7900XTX... now i'm waiting for the review of those cards because their price/performance ratio should make a little more sense expecially here in Europe (the 4080 here launches at 1500€)... mabye for the first time i'll go with team red
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
To be honest, you won't even notice. It's like going from an Intel to AMD CPU.
@MikeyD142
@MikeyD142 Год назад
As long as you’re getting above 60fps at 4k all else is just not necessary!
@jamesrobertson1066
@jamesrobertson1066 Год назад
i always always make jay laugh especiallly with my asteriod jokes the ones when an astronuat steps on an asteriod and a astriood says stops stepping on me coz its one small step for man one giant leap for the talisman
@keknoi1692
@keknoi1692 Год назад
if the rx 7900xt or xtx atleast beat 4080 in performance definitely everyone would be going for it 1200$ for a 4080 yikes
@jamiekelly6851
@jamiekelly6851 Год назад
7900xtx is quite close in raster to a 4090 and it's rt performance seems fine for most games atm if you even use it. Anyone buying a 4080 at this price is deluded.
@JustMeUT99
@JustMeUT99 Год назад
Interesting how well AMD does on the Unreal Engine. Their work with Epic really shows on how well the card performs on Unreal Engine games.
@JustMeUT99
@JustMeUT99 Год назад
I think there may be a longer term play here as we move towards the metaverse. Microsoft has been buying up gaming studios and making a push to train those studios on Unreal Engine 5, there are even rumors of Halo moving to Unreal Engine 5. Its no secret AMD has been working with Epic to optimize its platform on the Unreal Engine. I think we will see a market consolidation of AAA games and the future metaverse that is run on Unreal Engine and AMD is just positioning itself as a graphics providor in that space. Not all ray tracing is done at the hardware level.
@merijn5929
@merijn5929 Год назад
@@JustMeUT99 if there ever is a metaverse at all it will be atleast 15 years away
@JustMeUT99
@JustMeUT99 Год назад
@@merijn5929 Couldn't agree more. But large corporations will start investing and laying the technological ground work much earlier than that, lest they be caught flat footed.
@demontekdigital1704
@demontekdigital1704 Год назад
For me the connector is a non-issue. The price however, that's a different animal. I'm not trying to wealth-shame anyone, but I outright just can't afford any of the newer cards. Since I'm only planning to upgrade to an R5 5600 I don't even need that much power. I think I'm settling into a 2060 if they become inexpensive enough new. To be completely honest, with the games I play I don't even need to upgrade, and I'm only doing it so I have a newer CPU than my R7 2700. PC prices are going back to being ridiculously expensive, like they were in the mid-80's when everything was made out of unobtaineum.
@wolfshanze5980
@wolfshanze5980 Год назад
If you buy a new 2060 in 2022, at least get a 12gb version... I bought one for my son, the extra memory fixes a few issues with high texture counts.
@demontekdigital1704
@demontekdigital1704 Год назад
@@wolfshanze5980 Thank you for that. I'll keep that in mind, and look for them.
@Sebastian-Quintero
@Sebastian-Quintero Год назад
at 1200$ it makes absolutely no sense to buy. I'm sorry, Not sorry, but this is the dumbest Nvidia Launch yet. Pricing makes this whole generation not worth buying.
@katele6882
@katele6882 Год назад
I am a bit confused that you would call out on the 4090 melting story with "one of the manufacture is the defect" buddy....no one has confirmed that....all that is confirmed...we have 2 suppliers....that's it. Not even noting if the plastic is even at fault.
@Champabay
@Champabay Год назад
Hoping to see aftermarket coolers takeoff bc these are definitely not one size fits all!
@BruceKarrde
@BruceKarrde Год назад
With the prices, and preferring to have food on the table instead of a box, I'm looking forward to the 4060. Coming from a 2070, it will be a pleasant upgrade.
@RobBCactive
@RobBCactive Год назад
Best is not to buy Nvidia.
@mattyoconnor3784
@mattyoconnor3784 Год назад
Id like a 2070 tbf
@barsham7881
@barsham7881 Год назад
U will pay 700-800 for it.. good choice still wanting to buy mvidia
@amgvlogs5087
@amgvlogs5087 Год назад
if a gpu determines whether you can put food on the table or not, you shouldn't be wasting time playing videogames lol
@handsomesquidward151
@handsomesquidward151 Год назад
@@amgvlogs5087 haha yep this guy a minimum wage mcdonald's worker buying 4000x cards lmao
@BarnardoPlays
@BarnardoPlays Год назад
Can't wait to see the price to performance for upcoming AMD cards.
@therandomdrone4370
@therandomdrone4370 Год назад
The cards are unaffordable if you try to be on RELEASE. It's not going to change, start saving money between cards. It's like any other luxury purchase, (yes a GPU is a luxury for 99% of us) you have to actually save money to buy what you want.
@beemrmem3
@beemrmem3 Год назад
Definitely going with AMD. It’s a slap in the face to launch a 4080 none Ti at $1200, when the last gen was $700. What’s even worse is the 4070 TI is going to be about the same speed as a 3080 TI for the same price 🤦🏼‍♂️
@Puff_Chady
@Puff_Chady Год назад
I always opted for AMD CPU and nvidia GPU, but now for the first time I'm going full AMD build next year.
@TheZoenGaming
@TheZoenGaming Год назад
Man, this just reinforces my belief that I'll never need a Nvidia GPU that ends in 90. Although, it is nice to see Nvidia encouraging the used GPU market. 😅
@shi-woonyi2605
@shi-woonyi2605 Год назад
They are made for creators not so much for gamers.
@TheZoenGaming
@TheZoenGaming Год назад
@@shi-woonyi2605 I'm well aware of that, unlike the twit who tried to tell me that gamers were responsible for the scalping and price hikes during the 30xx series and would happily buy the 4090 at these prices.
@brianv3ntura
@brianv3ntura Год назад
They're really not encouraging the used market in a good way. if anything their 40xx pricing is keeping 30 series pricing high. Noticed 3080 and up series cards slowly going back up on the used market.
@TheZoenGaming
@TheZoenGaming Год назад
@@brianv3ntura Prices rise with demand. That would happen even if Nvidia was encouraging the market in a good way.
@brianv3ntura
@brianv3ntura Год назад
@@TheZoenGaming except the difference is nvidia is keeping pricing high for used/new 30xx due to 40xx pricing. If 4080 mrsp'd at $900, we would see used 3090 and 3090 ti's for $600-700 at this point.
@DrivenKeys
@DrivenKeys Год назад
Yes, it's pricey, but what a card! I cancelled an order for a $1150 Zotac 3090ti when I saw the $1200 FE 4080 will outperform it in every way. I'm stuck with Nvidia for pro work, so the debate was between 3090ti, 4090, and 4080. With those performance and power savings, 4080 looks worth the money (in today's crazy market).
@zaboxingnation9351
@zaboxingnation9351 9 месяцев назад
my thoughtss exactly
@Thatguysghost
@Thatguysghost Год назад
I don't know where on the fence I should be sitting. I bought an EVGA 2080 ti FTW3 for 1800 cad because it was "on sale" for 300 off (regular 2100). I slapped a hybrid kit on it and for the most part it does the job. Not getting the frames I want at 1440p to match my 165hz monitor. I called my local big chain pc shop and a Gigabyte card was 1750 cad. I don't want to be caught in this Nvidia price gouging bubble again. Yes the 4080 beats the 2080 ti by twice the performance, but to spend over 4k cad in 4 years for video cards is nuts. I think i may wait and see what the 7900 benchmarks have to say before I pull the trigger. I'm really hoping the red team can put the green team in check this generation.
@CrispyMuffin2
@CrispyMuffin2 Год назад
I think the weirdest part is here in Norway, the normal 3090 is about $2300. Which is obnoxious, but the weird part is when you realize the 4080 here is "only" roughly $1800, and 4090 around $2100. I wonder why that happens So here, the 3090 is just out of the question as its basically zero value. The 4080 is fine, but if you can afford to spend that much, you might as well get the 4090 for a few hundred extra bucks for almost 40% extra performance
@omegacon4
@omegacon4 Год назад
You live in a socialist country that needs to tax everything.
@CrispyMuffin2
@CrispyMuffin2 Год назад
@@omegacon4 imprting stuff will always increase its price because of tax. It honestly isn't a huge issue, just a bummer that its more expensive :P
@isakferm7674
@isakferm7674 9 месяцев назад
currently in Sweden 4090 is like $2300, and 4080 is 1.4. If you’re looking for a card still I’d pick up the 4080 now
@3dprintedodubunga405
@3dprintedodubunga405 Год назад
I got a 3080ti for $800 brand new, I'm happy with it compared to these insane price jumps.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
You won't be happy when you see what $100-$200 more could've gotten you come December. Oh well, stupid is as stupid does!
@JWFas
@JWFas Год назад
The 4070 Ti AKA the artist formerly known as 4080 12GB.
@liamcantrell4402
@liamcantrell4402 Год назад
Honestly with AMDs awesome lineup now its hard to choose, 4080 is alot more tempting than a 30 series, AMD would still probably win if I were to buy a new top shelf card right now though since 1199$ makes for a much emptier wallet right around the holidays, they should've led with this on launch for sure.
@Squ4reCac7us
@Squ4reCac7us Год назад
The 4080 has the same price per performance as a 4090, the same dollars per frames is what I mean. I don't understand why everyone is saying it's a bad card. It's been over a month since the 4090 launch, and I can't find it in stock, plus they're all well over MSRP at around $2,500 to $3,200. I'm very happy with my $1,250 4080 purchase at MSRP and def don't feel like I'm missing out paying $3,000 for a 4090 that I can't even find in stock when it only offers to for 25% more performance for 200% of the price of a 4080. People get so stuck on the 3080 to 4080 price difference they don't even actually take into consideration the dollar per frame performance (which is what actually matters).
@johnvirginia7238
@johnvirginia7238 Год назад
I think the 4080 is a great card, and I bet that it will be one of the best cards to mine with if crypto mining ever takes off again. I’d rather have a more efficient card that is still faster than 3090 TI.
@kontraproduktiv933
@kontraproduktiv933 Год назад
I would still show 1080p results, because most people still use that resolution. Steam Hardware Survey from October shows still 65% use this resolution. (Yes Steam Hardware Survey is just an indication but still a good point of reference) After that comes 2k resolution with 13.42%. 4K gaming ist not even close to beeing a focus with not even 3% in the survey. Thats because with currenct ecomonics and depending on the reigon 4k and even 2k gaming is not really affordable from buying point of view. So even with everything bottlenecked at 1080p it is still an important benchmark in my opinion.
@marcesmack
@marcesmack Год назад
Great review. I just bought this one tonight. I’m selling my 3090.
@HiLoMusic
@HiLoMusic Год назад
How is it man!
@marcesmack
@marcesmack Год назад
@@HiLoMusic didn’t install yet! Was waiting for my Argentina to become world champions! Which we did. Yesterday. lol. I’ll let you know when I install it :)
@HiLoMusic
@HiLoMusic Год назад
@@marcesmack Congrats on the win and good luck !
@BeckOfficial
@BeckOfficial Год назад
I can not tell you how happy I am that I got the 3080 on launch. Best hardware investment I have made in a decade. Also rip 4080 when 7900 XTX hits the shelves. Literally the only reason to buy 4080 is RT and/or if you are making 3D (blender etc.) because of better support.
@DarkReturns1
@DarkReturns1 Год назад
7000 series is gonna walk all over the 4080 I think
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 Год назад
I got a 3080 evga ftw ultra and I am so glad not paying over 1.2k for a gpu
@B1u35ky
@B1u35ky Год назад
This is a little copium. The 4080 is only beat by the 4090, but it’s more efficient using only 300w even when overclocked.
@willwunsche6940
@willwunsche6940 Год назад
I was actually able to get one of the best 3080 early on for $760 at Best Buy. Really lucked out these generations. I highly recommend people wait till the prices drop. 3080s should be like $500-600 rn. With partner 4080s costing as much as $1500 it's clear that Nvidia is not just price gouging us but their partners too like EVGA hinted at
@Daedalus29
@Daedalus29 Год назад
Yeah i got mine in mid december for 800€ just days before it went up to 1500€.I Never made a better deal, and still I think 800€ for a CG is too much.
@acid1787
@acid1787 Год назад
@@Daedalus29 What's a CG?
@shinmopi
@shinmopi Год назад
Prices drop ? For 30 series ? that won't happen. Jensen said so.
@willwunsche6940
@willwunsche6940 Год назад
@@shinmopi I don't expect them soon but that doesn't mean we have to spend a grand+ on a in some ways poor value single PC compenent or buy slightly out of date parts with little discounts. I recommend people wait a little longer to upgrade if their current system is serving them well. Jenson is trying to ease the blow of the crypto mining death ending the near endless profits before on investors, we as customers aren't responsible for helping him with that problem.
@Daedalus29
@Daedalus29 Год назад
@@acid1787 French term for graphic card
@trick0502
@trick0502 Год назад
Logical reason why it uses the same cooler. To make it look like it justify the high price tag. They could have gone with the 4070 cooler.
@MH01-01
@MH01-01 Год назад
$500 dollar price increase in one generation is not subjective…..
@itsdeonlol
@itsdeonlol Год назад
The 6950XT is the card I would go with instead of the 4080!
@chadbizeau5997
@chadbizeau5997 Год назад
Or wait for the 7x series and see what they do. Could even help lower prices
@bigpoint58
@bigpoint58 Год назад
@@chadbizeau5997 i agree on chad. I never buy a GPU when it is 6 months next to another release and right now only few weeks left so just wait and maybe the 7x series has a reasonable price in your country. I am really curious what it will cost here in germany..
@SteveL11
@SteveL11 Год назад
To simply put it: Nvidia has priced me out of their current products. Luckily that I got an Asus Tuf 3080 at launch for MSRP $716 which I sold later for $1400 and got a 3090 two month later for the same price. I will be holding on to this 3090 for a while.
@michaelmok2615
@michaelmok2615 Год назад
Can't wait to see these graphs with the 7900 series compared.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow Год назад
Yeah, just don't come to Jay's channel for it. He has been known to "fudge the numbers" to make sure that nVidia wins.
@GatoPaint
@GatoPaint Год назад
makes me so mad the fact that now we have to say that we were lucky we had the 30 series at this msrp ( even tho it never happened at launch )
@yoool7137
@yoool7137 Год назад
That was were nvidia saw, people pay alot for a gpu
@animegeek6118
@animegeek6118 Год назад
The fact a 4080 is a little better and pulls less power then my 3090 ti is enough to make me consider upgrading. And from my understanding the power connector is the same as a 3090 ti and most of the burned up adapters are from people not connecting them correctly.
@thealien_ali3382
@thealien_ali3382 Год назад
The power connector still uses the split cable which causes fires
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