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"The Russians are definitely beatable, but it needs a coherent approach" I Battle Lines, Podcast 

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On this bonus episode of Battle Lines we speak to Colonel Hamish de Bretton-Gordon about the state of the army in 2024. What should an army look like in the 21st century? What equipment is needed? How much should countries be spending?
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@stevenpace892
@stevenpace892 18 дней назад
By necessity our militaries specialise because we all have limited resources. This makes us even more dependent on each other. And, frankly, given what sort of leaders we have, we are not so dependible.
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 17 дней назад
Ur not gonna win anything when u let ur leaders ship all ur industry to China u ding dong that's ur own fault😂😂😂😂😂
@Uncommonsenses
@Uncommonsenses 18 дней назад
Asks military man how to solve a problem and he will always, always say that more military is the single solution. I seem to remember a time where interviews were more of a debate. There was even a time when people of opposing ideas could sit down and have a discussion.
@taralown7023
@taralown7023 17 дней назад
Can we just talk about Hamish's amazing soothing voice, the accent is so amazing
@baHasz
@baHasz 18 дней назад
FINALY!!! A great show from battlelines 👏👏👏
@darrencorrigan8505
@darrencorrigan8505 18 дней назад
Thanks, Telegraph.
@mikefallwell1301
@mikefallwell1301 18 дней назад
The real problem is leadership. Both parties are deeply influenced by the money coming from foreign sources.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
Both Tory and Labour?
@mikefallwell1301
@mikefallwell1301 18 дней назад
@@rmdomainer9042 whoever will take the money
@larrymac8538
@larrymac8538 17 дней назад
This was a VERY GOOD episode lads 👍
@markbateman9222
@markbateman9222 18 дней назад
The current situation cannot be compared to pre 1914; at that time in our history we had the world's largest, most pwerful navy. At present we have a few rowing boats sequestrated from the local boating lake!
@TheLucanicLord
@TheLucanicLord 18 дней назад
5:30 Two carriers, but not enough sailors to operate them or destroyers & frigates to escort them.
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 17 дней назад
Hahahahahaha
@FrankdeGroot-qc2do
@FrankdeGroot-qc2do 18 дней назад
Correct me from wrong Did Finland win the "winter war" against Russia ?
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
That incorrect Mr Wong
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@dessmith7658Nowadays it's correct to be Wrong.
@ConnorJane
@ConnorJane 18 дней назад
No, of course not. The USSR caprured what it wanted.
@abrakadavra3193
@abrakadavra3193 18 дней назад
The Finns provided for some good memes but lost the war. The same is happening in Ukraine.
@FrankdeGroot-qc2do
@FrankdeGroot-qc2do 18 дней назад
Like the Ukrainians, the Finnish counterattacked when the Russians were eating Dead Russians lying dead with food in their mouths Read for yourself what happened in the winter war
@jonmoll7178
@jonmoll7178 18 дней назад
What does beating putin even look like?
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
I don't think fantasy Island is capable of that
@SteenLarsen
@SteenLarsen 18 дней назад
Russia out of Ukraine as defined by the internationally recognised borders.
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
They don't want peace with Russia
@jonmoll7178
@jonmoll7178 18 дней назад
@SteenLarsen No that would not be a 'beaten' Putin.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
Making him be stuck in this situation until an oligarch pays to bump him off.
@user-od1pe2ip2n
@user-od1pe2ip2n 18 дней назад
Civil war broke out already in UK 😂😂😂😂
@lukegray2835
@lukegray2835 18 дней назад
Yea man, my grandparents have gone on a holiday to Italy, my dad's just bought a new car...Proper civil war stuff...
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@lukegray2835 And many of your neighbours cannot allow themselves to heat their homes.
@lukegray2835
@lukegray2835 17 дней назад
@@alexanderlazarev3570 Everyone has plumbing in the UK
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 17 дней назад
@@lukegray2835 Yeah, I know plumbers, electricians etc are the separate like Hindu casts in US and UK.
@lukegray2835
@lukegray2835 17 дней назад
@@alexanderlazarev3570 Are we really going to compare Russian poverty with UK poverty? And the levels of it?
@flickrscreen
@flickrscreen 13 дней назад
My only dispute with this gent is that we can ramp up defence AND act responsibly toward the environment, as both pursuits stimulate the economy.
@tims7250
@tims7250 18 дней назад
Not forgetting the bonus for a 5yr contract is around £50 per week since it's all paid in year 1.
@johngiddens5442
@johngiddens5442 18 дней назад
It’s depressing hearing an ex- army officer talking about effective combined operations whilst knocking the other two services. By implication saying that the RN and RAF have sufficient equipment and personnel, which is clearly nonsense. The entire Defence budget is insufficient given the current threat. All three armed forces are under equipped and undermanned and we are not well served by armchair ex-warriors trying to stir up inter-service rivalry.
@jim99west46
@jim99west46 16 дней назад
British Army officers are not immune from tunnel vision. If their senior officers think they are going to mastermind ops in the next conventional war they are sadly mistaken as their only large force experience is on PowerPoint and whiteboards. 70,000 troops actually means at best 15,000 combat troops barely equal to the manpower of 1 US division but having barely the tank and artillery units of one third of one US armored brigade.
@luciusleblanc5120
@luciusleblanc5120 8 дней назад
Hamish is very insightful and I agree with everything he's saying. The West needs to wake up.
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
What a waste of all those army dreamers
@richardmarsden5610
@richardmarsden5610 18 дней назад
An exhibition of captured military hardware from NATO countries that kicked off in front of the Victory Museum at Poklonnaya Hill in Moscow features 32 units of various armored equipment. "The exhibition presents various examples of seized military equipment which were captured by Russian servicemen in the special military operation zone. In all, there are 32 items," Andrey Lyubchikov, senior researcher with Russia’s Central Armed Forces Museum, said. For instance, the exhibition features a German-made Leopard 2 tank, an American Abrams, a Bradley fighting vehicle, М113 and MaxxPro, a Turkish-made BMC Kirpi, a UK-made Mastiff, a CV90 combat vehicle from Sweden, as well as many others captured by the Russian servicemen during the special military operation. The exhibition also displays firearms, documents, maps, gear and drones.
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Embarrassing
@Cuzthatwouldbeweird
@Cuzthatwouldbeweird 18 дней назад
Russian slaves love russia
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@Cuzthatwouldbeweird Western masters lost their power and the slaves bursting to freedom for slaughtering them.
@senquidam6318
@senquidam6318 18 дней назад
I don't see a problem in Russia displaying NATO tech because they can never replicate it. It's a display of envy and awe rather than mockery.
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
@@senquidam6318 Shock'n Awe in progress by broken military dominance.
@DavidGetling
@DavidGetling 18 дней назад
However, smarter fighting is required. WW I style trench warfare massively favours Russia, so cleverer tactics are required. Unfortunately, in large measure, Ukraine is still playing Russia's favourite wargame.
@MrRockfisherman
@MrRockfisherman 18 дней назад
Great job thanks for the trumpet call. 🇺🇲🇺🇦
@Dungshoveleux
@Dungshoveleux 18 дней назад
God help us if the Telegraph is in charge.
@dudeonyoutube
@dudeonyoutube 9 дней назад
LOL Comedy Gold.
@F4R4D4Y
@F4R4D4Y 18 дней назад
Ukraine 🇺🇦 gave up their nuclear weapons in accordance with the Minsk Agreement. Putin broke the agreement. The West should replace Ukraine's nuclear weapons with something similar to what Ukraine had.
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Another one who gets a thrill saying the N word
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Change happens 🇷🇺
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
It all comes from America basically
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Test
@p.k.blazingsun
@p.k.blazingsun 18 дней назад
What a bullshit. Find out at least on Wikipedia what the Minsk agreement is. And who broke it. What nuclear weapons? Nonsense
@black8art
@black8art 18 дней назад
If we only have 70,000 personnel in the army, then it confirms my LONG HELD (20 years!) SUSPICIONS, that we need to QUADRUPLE our army, QUADRUPLE or navy, and (at least) TRIPLE our airforce! The ONLY WAY to do this is to bring NATIONAL SERVICE back! Bring back the military disciplines that built this country! This will also provide manpower for CIVIL institutions that also need staff! The NHS, agriculture, the care sector, and MANY OTHER aspects of British life! Give ALL immigrants, legal AND illegal, the OPPORTUNITY to EARN citizenship with 3 years SERVICE! I have been plotting this solution for the last TEN YEARS!
@TonyM540
@TonyM540 18 дней назад
Agreed but unlikely that our politicians have the backbone to implement.
@RyanBrown-nx8dw
@RyanBrown-nx8dw 17 дней назад
Just a bloody good show eh govna? Maybe u should stop being americas little poodle and think for yourselves again.... dont u think that's a good idea? Cheerio!
@xerolad4086
@xerolad4086 18 дней назад
Once autocracy takes hold, it's hard to dislodge. The information space needs to be fascist-proofed to prevent future tyrants from rearing their ugly heads.
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 18 дней назад
With current tech it never ends.
@LacRagem
@LacRagem 18 дней назад
Creating an information space to suit your preferences is a staple of fascism. It is an unbelievably slippery slope that democracies will always struggle with.
@SteenLarsen
@SteenLarsen 18 дней назад
There is too much talk about tanks. We need to think about long range air defense, long range attack missiles, anti drone defense and then off course drones which was discussed.
@mryouben
@mryouben 18 дней назад
The rushist empire is starting to crumble
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
It certainly doesn't look like it
@lukegray2835
@lukegray2835 18 дней назад
​​@@dessmith7658 Weak Woke Western 14 year olds can't work in arms factories like our strong mighty Russia.
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@dessmith7658 In his dreams only.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
@@dessmith7658 16% base rate. Now 8% official inflation. Spending 40% of their gov budget on this war. Surely not healthy.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
@@rmdomainer9042 and not sustainable.
@georgeflitzer7160
@georgeflitzer7160 15 дней назад
Better watch out for bot swarms!!!
@savaisakovic3857
@savaisakovic3857 18 дней назад
No shovels, no power... this guy can be talking all day long!
@AkenValle
@AkenValle 18 дней назад
Hamis, man who was saying 14 british tanks would crush Russia and win war? What a clown.
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Tanks are so twentieth century
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
Please bring up quote and timestamp.
@johntynan8161
@johntynan8161 18 дней назад
Whose Hamis?
@AkenValle
@AkenValle 18 дней назад
@@johntynan8161 complete and utter joke who thinks to highly about himself.
@johntynan8161
@johntynan8161 18 дней назад
@@AkenValle 😆
@datsunli
@datsunli 18 дней назад
One key balance act overlooked is the conquering country absorbs all the resources of the dominated country and used to take the fight forward. The battlefront struggle seem balanced currently but should Ukraine yield, all Ukraine resources (arms and men) will be absorbed and used against neighbouring countries. They did that in the Donbas oblast forcing the remaining population to fight against Ukraine. Russian fighting power can snowball from strength to strength. By the time it reaches France and England, it is not just Russians tanks and men, It will be ALL of Europe's tanks and men vs UK.
@terryross2388
@terryross2388 18 дней назад
Actually , well before Donbass seceded, many thousands of Ukrainian, Russian-speaking military switched camps. They took themselves and their weaponry/equipment to Donbass to join the militias and fight a civil war. The same thing happened earlier in Crimea. It was these deserting Ukrainians wearing no insignia who were labelled in Western press as "little green men"
@martinwilby8942
@martinwilby8942 18 дней назад
the war needs stopping get to the peace table
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
They've had their chance several times
@martinwilby8942
@martinwilby8942 18 дней назад
@@dessmith7658 until boris britain national clown arrived
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
phone putin and tell him to stop.
@bruceprior3822
@bruceprior3822 18 дней назад
They really need to take note and work with the cheap drones. Ukraine is showing the way
@TonyM540
@TonyM540 18 дней назад
It’s not just the size of an army that wins a war it’s also political leadership. During WWll the UK had Churchill……….look what we got now 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
yeah, Putin I no Churchill. He's not even a Stalin.
@sebastianforbes1
@sebastianforbes1 18 дней назад
@@anthonyhulse1248 - and yet, Putin has brought NATO to its knees ?
@richardwilson57
@richardwilson57 18 дней назад
Starts by saying we have an army of 70,000 men ……. Last check Russia has an army of 700,000 men and increasing everyday…… but yeah they’re definitely beatable 😅
@SteenLarsen
@SteenLarsen 18 дней назад
The UK is not alone. Russia 's GDP is the size of Italy. It should be possible for Europe, US and other countries to produce an army and weapons to ensure Russia loses in Ukraine.
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Armies are so twentieth century
@dax354able
@dax354able 18 дней назад
​@@SteenLarsenrussia now outproduce west weapon production. And for manpower issue, why the hell west not fight the war themselve?
@p.k.blazingsun
@p.k.blazingsun 18 дней назад
​@@SteenLarsenGDP doesn't fight. Armies do
@p.k.blazingsun
@p.k.blazingsun 18 дней назад
​@@dax354ableperhaps because it is easier to talk about Russia's weakness on the Internet than to go to war against the Russians and die?
@felipearbustopotd
@felipearbustopotd 12 дней назад
The WEST should have acted sooner, as in the time when Pootin took Crimea. Europe was wedded to fossil fuel that Ruzzia was happy to supply, but in doing so - the West / Europe gave Pootin the green light ( and little green men ) to do what they went on to do. Appeasement never works.
@guff9567
@guff9567 18 дней назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Da Torahgraph !
@robertsteele474
@robertsteele474 18 дней назад
Thugograph.
@skymore2948
@skymore2948 18 дней назад
eat fake news to much at wkwkwkwkland? #wkwkwkwk
@guff9567
@guff9567 18 дней назад
@@robertsteele474 AbuseBritons-ograph
@thomasclaesson1631
@thomasclaesson1631 18 дней назад
Qualified crap…
@wesley135
@wesley135 18 дней назад
💙Slava ukraini 💛🇺🇦🇺🇸
@chipyoung4396
@chipyoung4396 18 дней назад
Putin could swallow Moldova and he had made political steps to accomplish this at once.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
How would they get to Moldova, tunneling? Anothre Hostomel-like attempt?
@chipyoung4396
@chipyoung4396 18 дней назад
@@rmdomainer9042 If Russia conquers the Black Sea coastline to Odessa, they could virtually walk in. Russia has hosted the organization of a pro Moscow political party called победа, Victory which will contest elections in Moldova. And the enclave of Transdniester, occupying Moldovan territory already has asked Russia for protection against so called Moldovan aggression. So the stage is set for another nationalist Russian expansion when the military situation allows for it.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
@@chipyoung4396 RU has no capability of Reaching Odessa. They have both lost their bridgehead in Kherson and the Montreaux Convention means that they can not reassemble their Black Sea Fleet.
@chipyoung4396
@chipyoung4396 18 дней назад
@@rmdomainer9042 They don’t need a fleet to cross into Moldova if they reach Odessa. True, they haven’t done it yet. But Russia now has 600,000 soldiers in Ukraine with more coming. And Ukraine, with a third of its population is hard pressed even with Western assistance.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
@@chipyoung4396 Dude, they can barely move kilometres. Forget a land push to Moldova before 2027 if ever. There are rivers and cites and long distances to cover. Russia stronk is a fallacy.
@christianjohansson5440
@christianjohansson5440 18 дней назад
😂😂😂😂 another pityfull claim from Empire in decline 🤣😂🤣 Put your money where your mouth is 🤣 and walk the walk not talk the talk 😂
@spirit6owl
@spirit6owl 18 дней назад
The Telegraph,🤣😂🤣😂
@KenM_1987
@KenM_1987 18 дней назад
Vatnik.
@opensky6580
@opensky6580 12 дней назад
As if europe is waiting for english generals to lead them.
@LjTodockin
@LjTodockin 18 дней назад
Stop fuelling, enough.😢
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
All putin has to do is call back his troops and the fighting stops today. Who is "fueling?"
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
putin is fuelling the war. The Telegraph is reporting on the war. Learn the difference.
@kennedyjames007
@kennedyjames007 18 дней назад
First get rid of all the corruption in the defence industry.
@sshumkaer
@sshumkaer 18 дней назад
That doesn't exist
@gamerboyz2024
@gamerboyz2024 18 дней назад
Suuurrreee
@peterjaniceforan3080
@peterjaniceforan3080 18 дней назад
🇬🇧🫡
@mikecrampton7086
@mikecrampton7086 14 дней назад
The speaker is as much in touch with reality as an ignorant primary school coach!
@Horseracingtip
@Horseracingtip 17 дней назад
I don't think anybody thinks putin is going beyond ukraine. Why would he? It makes no sense.🤷‍♂️
@cliffordhanson9224
@cliffordhanson9224 18 дней назад
2 years later, 100 billion dollars and youve achieved.... absolutely nothing...
@jakel8627
@jakel8627 18 дней назад
Kyiv under Ukrainian control, successful counteroffencives in Kherson and Kharkiv, continued support and aid from allies, forced the Russian Navy out of the black sea, candidate status for EU membership. I can go on....
@mryouben
@mryouben 18 дней назад
Greetings to putlers trollbotboys
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Controlled 🇷🇺
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
@mryouben Hi, brou from Russia with love.
@MrChrisEaton
@MrChrisEaton 18 дней назад
Calm down, Col Hamish. Russia invaded a non NATO country, they haven't invaded a NATO country and in my opinion they wouldn't dare do that.
@rmdomainer9042
@rmdomainer9042 18 дней назад
They would start by hybrid warfare. The actual shooting war is still a bit further away. Lots of fifth column in the baltic states.
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@rmdomainer9042 And very able to do it.
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 18 дней назад
Give me baa-aa-aa. That's a good little sheep.
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 18 дней назад
​@@rmdomainer9042they start by sending a few billion in bribes to other countries. Then they spend a trillion making messes all over the world. Then that wait for the right to give up because they value money over freedom.
@A.L.-tt1np
@A.L.-tt1np 18 дней назад
A complete collapse, blackout of Ukrainian territory was arranged for the unwanted pensioner PrezeZelensky and "Kharkovoblenergo" (russia could not do this) disconnecting the electricity for several months in order to close his mouth and freedom of speech. And everything is covered by law enforcement officers and the DBI of Ukraine. Полный коллапс, блекаут на украинской территории устроил неугодному пенсионеру ПрезеЗеленский и "Харьковоблэнерго" (раша этого не смогла сделать), отключив электричество на несколько месяцев с целью закрыть рот и свободу слова. И всё крышуется (покрывается)правоохранителями и ДБР Украины.
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 18 дней назад
I love it when Russians know they've lost and are only left with tears and name calling.
@wolfgane1766
@wolfgane1766 18 дней назад
World please just stop! Let everyone fight they're own battles. Most the time there is no good guys, so why get involved?
@KenM_1987
@KenM_1987 18 дней назад
Ivan stop. We fight for thr freedom of the world in the west to not be ruled by idiotic kleptocracies like the Russian government.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
Except Ruzzia doesn't fight their own battles, they start wars.
@wolfgane1766
@wolfgane1766 18 дней назад
@@anthonyhulse1248 like France
@user-oi6wi2di2z
@user-oi6wi2di2z 18 дней назад
No one can beat anyone without losing everything... Russia is tough... They know how to win big wars... It the village people that they can't beat. Just ask Afghanistan....
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
Russia is a serial loser. Russia lost WW1, the Polish Russian war in the early 1920s, Cold War, Russian war against Afghanistan, Russo-Japanese War of 1905. And even when they win, like the Russo-Finnish war in WW2, they lost huge amounts of men, and their international reputation.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
Ruzzia certainly know how to lose men, wars, equipment, their morals, their morale and their international reputation.
@sebastianforbes1
@sebastianforbes1 18 дней назад
G7 economies going down, BRICS going up... go figure ?
@guff9567
@guff9567 18 дней назад
"go figure"?
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Go Russia 🇷🇺
@lukegray2835
@lukegray2835 18 дней назад
Yea! In G7 economies 14 year olds can't work in arms factories!
@sebastianforbes1
@sebastianforbes1 18 дней назад
@@lukegray2835 - 14 year olds can't get married either .. what's your point ?
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@sebastianforbes1 But very soon Ukronazis will send them to the front.
@saviola5194
@saviola5194 18 дней назад
Or we could let the people of Crimea and Donbas decide and not let Ukraine join nato then this would all be over
@ConnorJane
@ConnorJane 18 дней назад
They already decided, they're part of Russia now. So those areas will never be discussed again.
@KenM_1987
@KenM_1987 18 дней назад
Dumb vatniks in this chat
@saviola5194
@saviola5194 18 дней назад
@@ConnorJane the Ukrainian government doesn’t seem to think so
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
@@ConnorJane which is why military action is needed.
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr
@JohnCSmith-lp1qr 18 дней назад
😂 More propaganda
@andemariam1763
@andemariam1763 18 дней назад
Big mouth propaganda
@user-od1pe2ip2n
@user-od1pe2ip2n 18 дней назад
50 countries and their puppet master USA proxy Ukraine against 🇷🇺Russia and they lost😅😅😅😅😅
@reduk1999
@reduk1999 18 дней назад
Clown
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
Repair Nordstream now
@alexanderlazarev3570
@alexanderlazarev3570 18 дней назад
​@@dessmith7658Who cares now.
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 18 дней назад
​@@dessmith7658never. Learn to bathe in your oil.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
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@jpete190
@jpete190 18 дней назад
Useless propaganda
@dessmith7658
@dessmith7658 18 дней назад
From the Hellograph !
@edmend55
@edmend55 18 дней назад
This would all be over if nato didn't try to expand into ukraine. It should have stopped existing after the cold war.
@lukegray2835
@lukegray2835 18 дней назад
"They made me do it"
@edmend55
@edmend55 18 дней назад
@lukegray2835 what would America do if Russia put troops and missiles in Mexico? Or Cuba??
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
Victim blaming. Typical.
@leecudmore-ray6697
@leecudmore-ray6697 17 дней назад
YAWN Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
@doc2146
@doc2146 9 дней назад
Another delusional report about Ukraine.
@terryross2388
@terryross2388 18 дней назад
Delusional!
@johncr1354
@johncr1354 18 дней назад
Quote "Putin a modern day Hitler determined to head West". This war could have been stopped in April 2022 but the Istanbul deal was nixed by NATO with Boris Johnson being the one who delivered the news to Zelensky. That deal didn't involve any loss of territory for Ukraine but Ukraine was to be neutral with no NATO presence and to stop abusing the ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. Putin didn't want the land then and probably isn't that bothered now but he wants NATO out and is heading west to do that.
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
Ukraine is a sovereign state.
@jakel8627
@jakel8627 18 дней назад
​@@anthonyhulse1248 💯
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 18 дней назад
Nato wasn't IN Sweden, Finland or Ukraine until Ruzzia went in. Putin singlehandedly strengthened NATO.
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