The higher end Bosch X-Lock units also have the same stated stop time of less than 1 second. What's interesting is they don't allow the ultra fast stop on the non X-Lock versions as they found that continuous rapid stops were causing the locking nut to loosen, hopefully this is something Milwaukee have addressed.
Dont expect these to last very long , Milwaukee has had quality issues and with brushless tool, when one switch goes, you must buy control unit and stator too, cost about same that new tool ... its very important to remember the extended warranty . About every tool brand does it, they wont sell switch only, they sell it as one unit with control board and stator .
Thats just stupid and overkill lol. Might aswell just go back to using rocks to carve things up. Proper PPE and not being a peanut should be enough. If you manage to fk it up enough to need a child safe one, shouldnt ve using them at all
The Auto Stop is the only thing that i really like about this safety stuff. Thiy may save your Ass, if something goes wrong and may not disturb at work all if it is tuned correctly. The slide on cover for cutting is also nice, every grinder should come with it. For the rest... a tool that is designed to satisfy the safety guys in the office but not for the craftsmen that actually have to work with it. The akward removal of the guard with five screws may end with losing them after the first disassembly and the guard will never be assembled again. The fixed side handle will render work in a lot of tight spots impossible and may also lead to additional downtime of the tool.
I'm in the piping industry, and there are times you have to remove the guard. We have to sometimes cut pipe in position and they're buried in an inconvenient spot. You have to cut a window out and cut the back half from the inside of the pipe. This won't work for that. You can get a variance from safety to allow removing the handle and/or the guard when you can prove there is no other viable way. That thing is made to work only in completely accessible areas. I wish it was that easy, as the space to put pipes is getting smaller and tighter.
@@HotForgeChaos you obviously don't work in the commercial/industrial construction sector. Safety can and will throw you off the job like that. They live to get people fired.
They could improve the search function if you lose your tool. If it emits a beep you have an idea which direction to search. The way it's designed now is you have to walk in circles while looking at your phone. Not so safe on a job site.
I made the mistake of buying that 6" Milwaukee braqking grinder. After 14 months it failed. Milwaukee wanted $162 to diagnose the prob and then parts and labor to fix it. It was replaced with a Flex grinder and all of the Milwaukee tools I have are being replaced with the Flex tools as the Milwaukee tools fail. Milwaukee lost my business permanently.
That rapid stop could be entertaining. If you are using a sanding or wire brush on it I would imagine the brush not stopping as quickly and spinning off the arbor of the grinder.
Are Milwaukee grinders still using the cheapest bearings that they can get or are they using decent branded hopely Japanese bearings? Maybe do a comparison between Makita and Milwaukee grinders in a break down not so much a performance comparison. My personal preference when it comes to grinders by brand is Metabo, Hitachi and Bosch.
I cut the base of 4 fingers with an angle grinder when it kicked and knocked my hand off the paddle switch into the path of the disc. Cut an artery so needed an ambulance for the blood loss, cut 3 tendons, so 4 hours of micro surgery and a 6 month+ recovery. So yeah, they are dangerous.
I think the foldable handle is a good idea, could do with this on standard grinders, makes it easy to store in the case. The safety features I like, especially the anti kickback, anything that saves people from injuries is a good thing. Some people complaining about the switches, when Tools operated the grinder it looked quick, he wasn't fumbling around to get the thing going. Great presentation.
A lot of the peeps stating who would buy this grinder are missing what he said. There are worksites already that demand all grinders have non removable guards, the handle plus the dead man safety thing is more than likely going to be an additional addon to it
really wish thats just a simple handle, i like the swival design, but that plastic trigger gonna be the first thing to fail and gonna need janky fix. also if they start "unintentionally" adding pockets or sockets for the airtag to fit into, that would be super neat. I work in big factory and ppl never put tool back where they were.
I do prefer the trigger switches for the sake of something goes wrong I can take my hand off the tool and it'll stop but bugga having a handle on at all times. I never use the handle.
Personally I like the extra safety features. But that's because I've also been scared of the grinding disk exploseding. Wouldn't mind seeing how it compares to the verable speed Makita X-lock grinder
@@hazza2247 yeah I know. Its just something that always in the back of my mind when using an angle grinder. I've seen far to many people have serious accidents with an angle grinder from when they have taken the gaurd and handles off.
@@thekiwinomad most accidents happen when people are either inexperienced, rushing, or distracted, if you’re just careful and use tools appropriately there is no reason for something to go wrong. it’s like driving a car, stay focused on the road (stay focused on the tool) and wear your seatbelt (wear safety glasses and earmuffs)
Bloody hell iv heard of a nanny switch but a nanny handle!! Even if my middle name is health and safety that’s to safe for me!!, I’d be using my not as safe makita cut of tool to cut that handle off!!!, that said the speed of the blade stop is very impressive and the anti kick back stopper thingy is good as well, great video sir 🤟🤟
almost killed myself with a 240v grinder. still wouldn't want to use this. Fast stop is great. I even kinda like paddles (the grinder that almost decapicated me was a slide switch). The handle switch is just ridiculous. Feel for those guys working on mine sites! The auto stop would be annoying in certain circumstances. at least it is on by choice for now.
ive never had a grinder inury so far but ive had a few disk explode, to me the only real problem with grinders is sparks and disks, you cant always control disk but a good guard will protect you against most of the sparks. other than the brake, anti rotation/kickback (which mostly every grinder these days has them) its just going to be a pain in the arse
This tool is the worlds best tool at not working. Does everything it can to stop itself and is the fastest at stopping to boot. If not getting work done was the challenge then this tool wins hands down.
Typical corporate thinking where safety doesn't count unless it's somehow inconvenient to the user. The engineers that designed this have their hearts in the right place, I'm sure, but the reset on that dead man's switch is just diabolical. Also, that aggressive brake might cause discs that screw directly into the arbor to come loose. It's not a bad idea per se but to make it work well it needs to start significantly more aggressively than it stops, to make the threads bind into place even if it was only hand-tight. Although I'm sure these things are used by the kind of people who torque the disc down using the wrench, which normally you're not supposed to.
I have noticed a lot more power on almost everytools i own from milwaukee with the forge and in term on grinder my 6" is a lot stronger with the forge , btw this new grinder is nice for certin applications in a shop
How’s the performance compared to the second generation XGT you’ve recently shown us? I see Hikoki have just released new grinders too and all 3 companies have new battery tech too. Any chance of a 3 way head to head?
I noticed the makita XGT grinder loses the quick stop if you remove the battery while its running. My switch locked out and that was the only way to stop it
Welp, won't be buying that grinder then. I'm not a commercial carpenter so I don't need all that safety. Also I'm not a numpty either. Give us a bare bones not safety version of that grinder instead
People are just gonna put a clamp on the handle to avoid using both hands at the same time. That feature is plain dumb. What do you do if you have to work on a ladder? Use a third hand to hold yourself? There are other solutions to safety such as the accelerometers.
The only question: Why? Tha side handle is an unusable, never use part of the angle grinder. It totally unnecessary. The second, which is every man drop to the garbage is the wheel guard. If you want work, the guard will get in an obtacles. Never use.
Hi Tools. Back again. Now taken the time to watch the video. My impression of it now is even worse. Apart from being a Milwaukee. Which is never good. Fit for nothing. Is my conclusion. Cut out the middle man and throw it in the bin. If it was given to me as a free gift. I would donate it to someone else without even using it. The concept is flawed. I seldom use two hands. A lot of the stuff I am cutting. I am holding with the free hand. Over complicated. And just useless as a functional grinder. If this is the future. I'm glad I'm old.
Paddle switch grinders. Designed by WHS people that have never used a grinder. They may want you to use a grinder two handed. But in reality, many don't. I would say I use them one handed 70 % of the time. Paddle switch not conducive to use like this. You have to hold it too low. Out of balance and awkward. Then the switch itself. Instant dead man shut off. But often they don't. Shit gets behind the Paddle. In the pivot. Whatever. They jamb up. Don't shut off as expected. Hook up an take the top of your thumb off. Ask me how I know. Wouldn't ever buy another Paddle switch grinder.
@@davetaylor4741Me too. But it’s important to know the strength and weakness of this brand so you can talk shit about it. Without making a fool of yourself.
No one is forcing you to buy it. They still make regular grinders. They are just making something to fit with safety rules on some sites. It's government rules you should be mad at, not the tool manufacturers.
Ohh I cant wait until something on this grinder inevitably fails and its just out of warranty and you cant repair it in an economically viable way because its Milwaukee
what the actual flip. why do I need to go through three steps to turn on my dang grinder. Not to mention the cheek of those bureaucratic dogs needing a full reset to turn on again. cant even tape the triggers shut, going to wire them to the paddle trigger. learn how to grind shit without being tarded.