The Saints Row Reboot HATES Saints Row 

Fine shooting mechanics?.ypur joking? Man this Clown spent more than 50mins shilling for this dumpster fire. Hahaha.

Um, not to be a jerk, but it's not "the Los panteros" it's "Los panteros." It's Spanish, for "The Panthers." So it's not "The The Panthers" man. Oh well, funny Robert Pattinson Batman moment I guess.

Things A Saintsrow game needs 1.You want a city area with lots of buildings similar to New York City None of that high flying s*** with gliders takes away from the game I would have parkour level up mode where you could jump from building a building and through windows to get away from police and going people's Apartments so basically every building would have its own interior design 2 fight mode this allows your character to fight in various different types of self-defense I would take a lot of it from the game dead to rights when it comes to disarming opponents that have weapons martial arts boxing kickboxing Etc should all be allowed to learn in the game similar to how San Andreas that 3. Breaking in cars I should be a little more difficult to get in cars so you have that real effect 4. Driving I would take from a lot of racing games ideas how they want the cars to drive even drifting like Tokyo Drift and different cars I have different things you're allowed to do before you blow out the engine that'd be funny 5. Character interaction you have to actually interact with your gang hang out with them in order to get their loyalty if not you'll start seeing them slowly start to betray you and not follow your orders it's a gang for God's sake 5. Weapon combat you need to talk to actual Marines and people that's been an actual Wars and combat with firearms to emulate how to use them properly or just watch the movie John Wick 6 gang creation basically the same way Saints Row 2 had your game but instead they get you money to get you drugs and depending on what stupid stuff they do you have to go bail them out if they're higher rank remember you're the leader 7 relationship mode yes even gangsters need love too different relationships open up different opportunities that open up different missions if you're a good boyfriend that is or girlfriend 8. Bank creation mode bank heist play is set up intricate plans on how to ride some of Saints Rows most difficult Banks also Bank creation mode your bank has to be safe so you set up booby traps put on guards cameras special doors so that your opponent or the online gaming community can't just walk in and steal your money that would be fun that's a mission in itself Your block mode keep enemy and other people you don't want on your block off your block by sitting up gang members even civilians that are paid for to protect your block you can choose from multiple options of protect the block kill anyone I trespass Defender block No One allowed on the Block block shut down or roadblock and others only allowing you and your team in that area but be careful cuz it could start a gang war with the NPCs or online opponents 9. Green Card yellow card mode race others to get their cars if you lose that money that women that houses bet your car risk it all for a few seconds of fun this has to do with the customization of the car make your own rules regarding the race good luck 10 Invasion mode Invasion mode has to do with going after your opponent or anyone that you want to attack you can bring your whole entire game I'm talking about like 15 20 30 cars tanks to take over their territory and completely annihilate them out the game but you only can annihilate them out the game if they're playing if they're not online you can damage their territory and take money but that's about it it's only fair 11 food in competition at Saints Row for God's sakes got to put something stupid these competitions right here a lot of play to compete with other players by pressing different combinations on the keypad in order for your opponent and you to gobble down various things of food to see who's the greatest champion in the world FYI you can kill your opponent if they lose but if you win you also get a hot dog game and hot dog bodyguards remember the Hot Dog soup from the first one 12 Gang based customization and defense customization this will stop people from just walking on your territory and your game face you can make it up how you want to look hell make it look like Batman's bat cave but a whole bunch of guns and multiple cars and paratroopers of your gangs that would do anything to protect we're going to make it very difficult to take over a person's gang territory but it can be done but it's going to take strategy 13 Prison mode prison time mode you do the crime you better be prepared to do the time now this is going to piss people off and also make people laugh if you are caught and locked up by the police for whatever the reason is you actually go to a prison remember Saints Row 2 or this one you're not breaking out of unless you're really clever prison mode goes like this if it just says you have one year in jail you have one hour of playtime that you're locked inside of a prison there's missions to do in the prison you meet people you try to break out very difficult by the way he build your own gang and your gang status but be careful because if you get life in prison you may never come out every year is considered an hour of gameplay get your stuck in prison life in prison the only way out is to break out I know people going to be mad cuz their profiles but hey be a good citizen that's the f*** you to the fan you can also set up for your opposite game leaders to get locked up but we won't tell you how you'll figure it out you might want to call 911 and certain crimes happen I'm just saying 14 Police inspection if 911 is called on you or the police are called on you by civilians or gamers they have the right to investigate and interrogate if they find you with drugs weapons stolen cars Etc you going to jail so be careful how you move because there are a lot of police in this town they don't just spawn out of anywhere there's no glitch but they do do block surveillance and certain areas you're going to learn where the police presence is very heavy mostly the nice neighborhoods or the really really bad areas and some areas you may never even see a cop might want to start your base there I'm just saying don't go to areas with heavily guarded police you won't make it out and you will lose everything 15 bribe mode what was Saints Row Be without corrupt cops corrupt judges corrupt politicians like I said money says everything you can't pay your way out of problems but it's going to cost you a fee 16 update security mode we're constantly going to be going through profiles creation mode and everything to make sure no one is cheating and adding codes this is a game that takes time effort imagination to create the perfect world for you as well as lots of money they will not be cheats on how to do this you will work you will do tons of missions you will burn yourself out in order to get the money like you would do in real life and we're going to make sure of it we are going to make sure of it we're going to check RU-vid channels on people who found glitches and codes and the game and we're going to fix it so it doesn't happen enjoy Saints Row b****** Air Base army base control remember you can have your own Island but I didn't say the island had to be in the water it could be in the sky it could be on a volcano it could be inside of a tornado the only thing that stops you is your imagination and your bank account volcanoes and tornadoes earthquakes hurricanes Etc use those to keep your opponent away from your territory but it's going to cost you man is it going to cost you some money weather silos are not cheap damn I gave it away it was supposed to be a surprise

if I was you I would delete the game 🎮 and kill the people at volition writers

18:58 its not so much realism, as it is wether it's fun or not. Driving in the SR reboot isnt fun, because the driving feels stiff and unengaging, crashing doesnt really do much of anything, and the 'drifting mechanic' is extremely forced and on rails.

@@GeteMachine Meanwhile Boss is engaging in Mayhem in literally every game. It's not evil; it's just destroying everyone and everything in sight. The Saints regularly disrupt rival businesses by killing not just the rival gangsters but also all their customers. They basically razed the projects and the trailer park. Plus there's Trail Blazing where Boss drives over a bunch of pedestrians. Sure Julius had his vision, but it was Boss and Gat who expanded the Saints beyond the Row and their attitude was always "shoot everyone between us and the money"

well said, really sick of games that completely lack bad guy options if i didn't know any better, i'd say it's because these are bad people irl, and seeing it reflected on their self-insert character makes them insecure... good thing i know better!

like a Sopranos

As much as I like that Saints Row the Third scaled back the ruthlessness of the Boss, I am so tired of media these days making our villain protagonists not very villainous. I had the same problem with the Book of Boba Fett. We remember him as a ruthless bounty hunter, he's becoming a crime lord, but he never acts like a criminal.

They even show the other bosses being a bit worse and how bad the society has gotten. The saints are shown as being more fair to the people under them, which helps a lot with making them seem like the heroes.

It was never a clone, it was competition that was needed.

@@you-5-iver804 And now with no competition, Rockstar has a monopoly on grounded crime sandbox games :(

Only the people who didn't play Saints Row called it a GTA clone

@@viridigreen8714 Even Mafia doesn't count as 2k Games(their publisher) is technically owned by the same parent company of Rockstar(Take Two Interactive).

@@CurtiPeNET the first one was. Pretty blatantly, actually. It was with the second game that the series started to find it's own identity

Then again these guys got kicked out of their gangs to start a new one. so of course they are going to be roommates before becoming boss and employee

welcome to games that try pander to the SJW crowd... considering they probably don't play the games

@@morganuhl9992 Reminds me of a famous comics series here in Spain, Mort & Phil, Mort keeps calling Phil "boss" despite them both being in the same tier, because in their past Phil WAS his boss. It just stuck.

I agree that he’s the boss and not your roommate and when he called the boss roommate it was at the end of the game and not at the beginning . That’s just how much of a douchebag they are .

In the first game, you were Playa, and initially, you could only have a male character without mods. In the second game on, you were called Boss because, well, you were the boss of the gang. It's a gender-neutral term, so you can be a guy or a girl (or a zombie or Nolan North) and they won't have to have everyone record two different sets of voicelines to talk about you. Roommate is them *trying* to do this, but it fails because no one calls each other roommate in the same way you'd call someone Boss or Playa. It's not a nickname, and the Boss refers to them all by name, so they should be on first-name basis with each other. If they put a tiny bit of effort into it, they could have made it slightly less cringy and called the boss Bro/Bra or something, which would have at least made *sense*.

Pretty much, but people tend to articulate that as “politics bad” when in reality it’s bad writing that’s bad

Fallout New Vegas and Metal Gear Solid series does a great job in this area. It shows the good and bad from all sides.

@@trentnida3420 True but the difference is most people don't want to indulge in media where they feel their beliefs are being constantly straw manned, parodied, and attacked.

@@trentnida3420 You did not read the fucking comment.

@@trentnida3420 It's not just "politics in media bad". Nearly all media has some for political, cultural, or social message in one form or another. It's a few things: 1) Politics come before the art. It's not a story with a political message, but a political message with a weak story posted over it. 2) It's almost exclusively Left-wing political messaging. Specifically Far Left political beliefs which aren't even held by most Left-wingers. 3) It's done in the most ham-fisted way possible and all opposing viewpoints are strawmen. Look at how several pieces of media have had villains based on Jordan Peterson. Do they take his actual beliefs and stances and provide critiques? Do they show possible negative consequences of following his advice? No. They just make a Nazi or cult leader who tells people to clean their room. _____________________________________________________ I'll add that I am not against politics in entertainment. I can enjoy movies and TV shows even if they don't share my politics. The base message in the movie "They Live" is essentially Marxist (as admitted by John Carpenter), but it is still an enjoyable movie and has valid themes even if you don't agree with all the underlying politics. "1984" is my favorite book and it was written by Communist and despite the very heavy criticism of totalitarian regimes, much of the criticism of Stalinism in the book was from a Socialist perspective.

dude he'd tear them apart at just breakfast what're you talking about lmao

Between bites lol

Dude he'd just push em away and say something like "Go find a job, junkie"

He'd kill those liberal scum in 2 seconds

​@@OMGKawaiiAngelll he'd take longer on purpose to drag it out.

Or you know, any gang at all.

@@superleipoman ...fair point 😂

Its the alphabet gang guys. Dont have to be scared to call it out

It was the foundation the series should have continued to build on for sure.

I agree, it's a shame that Volition consider us S1/2 fans to be untermench

I thought saints row 1 was better.

@@iloveyoushima4953how lol

Welcome to the roaring 20s. Gotta have moral superiority and let the bad guys know they're bad. Its like the writing teams on everything these days are being told "write everything like you're telling a toddler a bedtime story."

SRR: "You're bad people!" SR2: "Of course we are, what do you want a participation medal?" SRR: "Yes please" SR2: "Oh for fucks sake"

I wish we could question our moralities again.

Well judging by all the clips I've seen of this game, all of the antagonistic characters, as well as the dumber characters, are all white men, and evidently the only ones in the game. That makes this okay in the eyes of the current cultural climate.

Yea it's a great game thinking about replaying it

Mine 2 👍. . . The rest are trash.

Carlos was always a crash dummy

At least he avoided being in the rest

It was teeth-gritting thinking just how painful that would of been to go.

There is no grinding it’s just a waste of time, they want to pay student loans and become criminals JUST for this reason, what a awful game

the look on his face when was that of a broken man lol.

At least no non-Xbox users have played Fable 2 to put that claim to the test. Anyone can experience this disappointment on nearly any platform.

@@EatWave Fable 2 had some actual ambition even if disappointing.

Then you haven’t seen the secret ending…..😬😬😬*shivers*

nope it was never ironic Julius really intended the gang to be a force for good, pushing the vice kings, rollers, the Los Carnales etc out of the row and stopping drugs But of course the point is they just became another gang

​@@maalikserebryakov it's not the los carnales it's just los carnales

@@maalikserebryakov and thats what made it ironic

​@@maalikserebryakovyou just explained why the name is ironic

​@@zooparty1257It was never MEANT to be ironic. It IS, but it was not SUPPOSED to be. Learn to read.

Or obliterate by accident during a cutscene in the background.

😂 Absolutely

True

This comment is 100% everything I feel, totally accurate.

Spot on! There's many great IPs in need of a new and better home, and Saint's Row is def. one of them.

Couldn't have said it better myself. You forgot one more thing: Volition recently found the source code for Saints Row 2. They KNOW how much people want a Saints Row 1 and 2 remaster and how the games don't exist in any official capacity outside of the Xbox 360. They could have made VERY EASY MONEY with a very simple remaster and re-release of SR 1 and SR 2, made by a third-party developer, before even coming out with the reboot (as well as giving themselves time to actually fix the bugs of the reboot). If they didn't despise their own franchise, besides Saints Row the Third, they very easily would have done a simple remaster of SR 1 and 2. Hell, even as a neutral business move, they should have. But you are right, they left money on the table to NOT remaster SR 1 and 2 because they hate those games. They hate being called "GTA clones." And they would rather make this TRAVESTY of a reboot, then keep their jobs. So be it. Bye bye, Volition. No one will miss you.

@@grisharotov9735 prince of persia needs a better home as well

Agree to the first paragraph, but for the second, I think we as humans Have a problem on having everything in perpetual state of consumption, I think is ok to let some things die, not everything is worth salvaging, the older are always there to re experience. I don't think I would like to see another studio dumping all of its creativity in a franchise that had 3 good games and 3 bad ones.

It honestly comes across this way. As if we've been bitching at them for so long that they are actively trying to kick us out of the fanbase. Pretty funny given how Saints Row IV had actual respect for the fans of the earlier games, all those flashbacks n references n stuff.

I'm sorry it had FUCKING WHAT

The fact that these devs would say something so utterly stupid tells you a lot about their utter lack of life experience.

@@thehousealwayswins8398 I remember hearing it and nearly banged my head off a wall

@@thehousealwayswins8398 I love it when the middle class have no idea how the world works and spend life on twitter try to project their stupid world bubble onto every other fucker.

The very definition of a gangster is basically "an often-violent criminal who commits crimes as a member of an organized criminal gang/family/organization, rather than acting as a loner". If a gangster is entering your living room, then usually you either don't know that he's a gangster or are about to be robbed by the gangsters. The idea of "gangsters you invite into your living room" can be accurately described as "a bunch of college dropouts who think they're 'fighting the system' when they're actually just enabling it".

But wouldn’t that be a bit weird since they apparently created the name for themselves it would be a bit weird if a street was already named that but I see your point

@@ariaxrose1 I don't think you see my point. In the old games, the reason they called themselves the third street saints is because they operated out of a district called "Saint's Row" and which is also why the game is called that. In the reboot, they managed to add third street, but they didn't bother adding another Saint's Row district to it, so now the game's name doesn't even make sense anymore which is why it bothers me

@@p0cr0c71 no I do see your point but it’s a different location, not every city will have that name street and it might be weird but I do see your point if they did it in other games why not this

@@ariaxrose1 And that's how I know you don't see my point. The reboot is set in an entirely new universe, which is why it could've had its own Saint's Row district, just like the older games, since they had both a third street AND a Saint's Row district. This game only decided to have third street but no relevant district.

You can just tell a lt of the new devs didnt really understand the references they thought they were making. Like Saints Row being the name of a location, and a reference to a skid row. Not just the name of the series. A lot of people who didnt play SR1 don't seem to get it. They're called the "3rd Street Saints". Just like the Grove families is a reference to the neighborhood in GTASA, because they're a turf gang. Its why I felt the reboot was soulless. Like why they become the Saints is jus so trivial and they run the gang like a stupid sart up company. It just named dropped stuff but the game itself didn't reflect what they actually meant. Its also why some fans didnt like SRTT.

Exactly! It's why my Boss always has the Cockney accent.

All the voices in SR2 were goated. All of them. Each actor did a phenomenal job of selling the tone. My personal favorite was Male 3 (Hispanic), bro sounded ruthless and when he says CaRRRlos 😄

Who'd have ever thought in a million years the dad from The Nanny would make such a badass gang leader?! XD No joke, that's really him.

@@littlegreengamer You’re kidding:

@@Lobsterwithinternet Yep. Totally him. Now you know why he hired that nanny. Raising kids in NYC and taking over turf in Stilwater is a difficult double life to live, lol.

No die hard fan of 1 and 2 would ever say 4 was a good game

@@joestr8848 you have versatile standards and styles. So yes you can

@@joestr8848 you sound extremely ignorant, Joe. 🤺

​@@joestr8848yes they would

@@Zelix678 no

My brother in christ please watch literally any serious piece of media one time in your life I beg you

​@@Nefariousbig Is this a negative IQ take?

@@Izzmonster your IQ has to be measured in single digit poo emojis to even begin to believe Saints Row was ever truly serious I swear they put that one randomly ott kill and some bog standard basic bitch mourning into one game and you lot act like it's The Wire. Or, fuckin' Tarantino. The man famous for his dialogue and ability to tread the line between serious and cartoonish/funny and pull it off with style. Saints Row was never even anywhere near that discussion, come the fuck on.

The Saints Row franchise is nothing like tarantino. I'd rather compare it to a Guy Ritchie or Taika Waititi flick. The physical comedy and the flow of things along with the dry delivery of the jokes in the dialogue remind me of Ritchie while the absurdity of the situations and jokes themselves are a mix of Waititi and Ritchie.

@@michaellorah9051 saints 1&2 are more like Tarantino, 3&4 are more like taika.

Based

This is why you don't give your franchise to people who hate it.

💯

@@XProjectHunterX one hunnid, and dey wonder why.... boi aint nobody buyin your bullcrap, you cant care less bout no saints row you claimin you have lots more to show

@@LazerzZ the frustrating part is we've seen this happen before. The halo tv show, the Disney star wars "trilogy", and the Lord of the rings show are prime examples of what happens when you hire these writers who want to tell THEIR story but know it would it never sell on its own merit so they latch on to an already established property that someone else built and get mad and surprised when it comes with fans who expect it to be held to a certain standard or spirit. This is why these companies need to vet who they hire and allow to work on these properties as you would not hire someone who doesn't care about sports to referee a sports game so why would you hire people who don't care about an IP to work said IP.

While I agree with you I don't think they will get that chance. This has essentially killed the saint row franchise so I wouldn't be surprised to hear that volition is either getting sold off or closed down after this failure. Embracer group (the parent company that owns) them isn't going to let a financial failure like this slide.

@@XProjectHunterX Agreed. I think whenever Embracer group announces the sales numbers for Saints Row that will determine the future of the company. Despite Volition's TERRIBLE decision making over the past few years, it'll feel disappointing for them to shut down like that.

@@XProjectHunterX so true. Volition could not afford to take another hit to their company and it sadly happened. Volition is definitely closing down.

@@nonaborhan7269 I do feel sad about what saints row became and volition possibly shutting down but most of the people who worked on the previous saints row games are no longer there. Hopefully a studio takes the IP and revives this game down the line.

I'm pretty sure they admitted the reason why every two handed weapon has a foregrip is because they had no more memory or whatever. Seems like they just used an outdated engine to me

To be fair that line of dialogue would be a little spicy coming from the English voice of the boss. Could 100% make that line work if the writers still had any talent. Poof is a pretty strong slur for gay man so doubt they'd still have the balls to use it

@@craigbolton2231 not on this side of the pond, they could get away with it

@@craigbolton2231 don't be a poof

Then there’s Agents of Mayhem……. We don’t talk about that game

@@tjz3158 honest question, why? I enjoyed it for the mindless shooter it was, totally seperate with SR games (oleg's and pierce's characters excluded, obviously) but people seem to hate it like it's the antichrist. was the game so broken on relase?

@@tjz3158 I do as I enjoyed it. It felt like a goofy saturday morning cartoon that it was aiming for. I also like the character designs and enjoyed their company. I actually wanted to see more of them. It has flaws for sure but its still enjoyable.

@@beetle149 A lot of people wanted a main line game I imagine. Plus there was plenty of people who were somewhat unsatisfied with the more extreme upserd parts of 4 and so on.

Yeah, it was mostly a lot of new graduate hires and some leftover people from AOM. All their big figures from SR1 to SR3 left, other than Jim Boone, who sold out. Their new creative director, their writer (who said she write for AOM) and artist designer are who I blame for the reboot, being so off brand, but I mosly blame Jim Boone who supervised it and didnt at all do anything to guide them because he was one of the guys that did not want to go back to anything from the first 3 games they didnt consider marketable anymore, despite their fanbase.

Well I was going to play it again 😂

If you think about it, the bug actually fits the story. These characters are all faceless, one-dimensional, and boring. Why shouldn't this fact be reflected in-game visually?

The reboot is pretty much SR3 if all the gangster and m-rated adult themes were removed for just the silly stuff and turned the characters into game journalist self-inserts.

@@GeteMachine They fucked up the silliness too!

@@GeteMachine A lot people say that, but whenever I look at the reboot I don't see anything that screams SR3

Or any of the other Saints Row games in general the only thing that game screams.....is Fortnite clone

The English voice is just so good, I always preferred Charles to Robin, I feel like he captures a bit more edge, Robin always sort of felt more like a loveable idiot

Same here! It's what makes SR2 so great, you can make a more "fitting" Boss(Afro or Hispanic) or just let the Kray Twin's unknown cousin loose in the U.S. :D Only thing I missed was an Asian and Eastern European voice option to chose from aswell.

@@grisharotov9735 I always found it odd Saints Row allows for a Caucasian, African American, Asian, and Hispanic playa, but never had an Asian voice option. I guess Gat kinda makes up for it since he's the deuteragonist of the series.

@@MerlautZone I agree, it's strange that they did not include that...especially since you can create a heavily Yakuza-styled character(hairstyle, tatoos etc.) A few more voice options in general would not have hurt.

If another studio gets a shot at keeping the franchise alive it's a must!

That's what I wanted the reboot to be, showing that 3&4 were just a dream and you start as the boss waking up from a dream in a cold sweat, to go on to kill the governor that's trying to crack down on crime or something

Usually people who make these sort of titles whether ot be videogames or tv/film double down

Even just a remaster for those games would be fine. I think the gameplay for SR2 is good, better than the GTA definitive edition. If they'd just update the graphics I'd be happy.

I mean I would be fine with a remaster like they did with SR3. Just so more people could get their hands on it and I would love to give those game a spin again as I love them as well.

@@rjramun SRTT Remastered looked better than the GTA definitive trilogy

@@D_LGND SRTT remastered is the first Volition game to flat out look better than GTA IV on max graphics

An SR Trilogy remake would be perfection. 3 gets a lot of unnecessary hate, but it does fit in with the first two more than it fits with the garbage that is 4.

SR2 Boss was running on revenge(you know, because Julius tried to kill him?). When that and Ultor got dealt with, where else would the story go(yes, there was Dex, but how would that have turned out? Saints vs Ultor 2?)? And SRTT Boss mellowing out some is pretty, uh...human, for lack of a better term. And Kinzie's not that bad lol

@@Ticketman99 the boss in sr3 is a fucking joke He's dumb, too confident, and and tries to hard to be cool. Sr2 boss was serious, cold and angry. The boss in sr2 is a million times better than sr3 boss. Also why is the sr3 boss is so relaxed and calm when HIS BEST FUCKING FRIEND GOT KILLED? boss im sr3 should be even more angry than sr2 boss

@@Ticketman99 That's the SR3/SR4 explanation of the boss character change, it isn't good enough IMO, the demeanor and mannerisms are vastly different, if you look at the SR1 trailer where Playa says he wants it all, it is consistent with his SR2 portrayal where he confronts Julius. Kinzie's character was okay as a minimal side character, she turned worse in SR4. She would fit in more with the reboot group over the pre-SR3 group. She was given a more active role and screen time in SR4, is a secondary protagonist in GooH, and an available character to select in Agents of Mayhem, Shaundi previously had the hacker role in SR2 and the running gag was her various connections for information, but had her role diminished in favor to Kinzie.

Kinzie became really annoying to me after SRTT, and how she pretty much made all the other characters seem useless over time. All because she could just do anything the plot needed. Where as things were more grounded and limited in SR1 and SR2, so the characters had to actually do some real work. Kinzie just became a mary-sue that the Boss always coward to. Simply because she just apparently knew everything the plot needed. Dex and Shaundi were never like that. I would have been fine with Kinzie if she just stayed a pervy FBI character that were allied to the Saints. But by SR4 she kind of just took over the gang, and Volition did that intentionally when in GOOH and AOM they kept pushing Kinzie over the other characters despite her being the least gangster character in the group.

@@ZiggyIsNowhere Kinzie should have just been an FBI character and worked within the realistic limitations of that. Instead of making her this all knowing genius hacker. Kinzie would have been more reasonably useful if she was jus there to counter the police and government. Instead they pretty much used her for everytihng. Shaundi pretty much had no role after SR3. Because Asha in SRIV is pretty much her in SRTT but better.

I agree but I do wish the 1st and 2nd game get a remastered some day

You actually have a valid reason for liking The Third as opposed to most idiots saying that 3 is better simply because it's newer and better-looking. I like 2 more than 3 because of what you said, do I prefer ruthless sociopathy or toned-down sociopathy? I prefer the former and while we do lose friends along the way, SR2 Boss stopped at nothing to get revenge for them, for example Carlos, then Jessica/Aisha then Shogo. Another reason (personal gripe) why I don't like it's because they replaced SR2's Male Voice 3 with Troy Baker and Baker sounded like a goofball the entire time in TT, I could not stand it.

go to sleep timmy

Weird flex but ok

I was thinking solace some of the customization just ain't that good compared to two because you can't wear a necklace and a hoodie and not being able to wear wristbands on whichever hand you want it's like they went three steps ahead two steps back oh and the voice acting is atrocious it's like something an edgy teenage would write in the year 2000 just to piss off his parents somehow Saints Row 2 will still be superior in like 50 years people will still remember it the reboot is on its way out not many people care about it or remember it simply because it's forgettable most people played it hated it finish the game just so they could delete it if people get more enjoyment from deleting your game that's basically congratulations you made garbage

Well said lad

Dope name my guy

To me, the world map seemed pretty hardly worked on actually

The character customization demo before release was also done with The Third and IV.

In their spare time while on the toilet they worked on it

CD Project Red was making this game with the bugs

Roadhouse

Sr2 will always be the superior game I was 5 when it came out and played with with my dad the story and game play has Always stuck with me I think it's something worth going back to because compared to alot of games now it's refreshing

@@theotherguy21 glad you had some good memories playing this game when you were younger too. I think the story really does hold up, fighting the rival gangs than finally Ultor. It's like this is the far better version of the story SR2022 tried going for.

I actually enjoyed re5 quite a bit, 6 not so much lol

@charles gee to each their own, but now that you mention it Re6 is essentially the Michael Bay resident evil editions 😂🤣

Re5 and sr3 are great! Fun the entire game and both you can play with a friend

Saints row reboot is the umbrella corps of the franchise

Where RE5 failed as a horror game it succeeds as 3rd person action game, it is still one of the most fun ones next to max payne 3

Well they used it as their model for this game, so it carried over the same problems. All they did was just strip out all the adult content and make it more appealing to the game journalists, if not self-inserting them into it.

@@GeteMachine there should be concentratoins camps for game journalists in each country then

@@VinnyUnion. How about go to a mental asylum?

According to developers, the cyber mission where you use the NEMO and fight the Deckers was often considered the best mission by players. The premise of Saints Row 4 is "What if we made an entire game modeled after the best mission of the previous game?" It might be too much of a good thing, but the intent was good. The Reboot is: People didn't like the previous game? Llet's make a game for people who will never like Saints Row AT ALL.

@@billybob7135 SR4 was originally SRTT DLC but since Volition was going bankrupt it was decided that it would be a full game instead. But I see your point

4 left it open to fix perfectly with the time line wtf are you taking about. Even ignoring Gat. They had time travel to just return to the original/2, before it got so crazy. Even remake the original and have it be a bit different since you could work in time travel and awareness of certain story points. Plot wise it was always fixable. Gameplay wise it was just impossible to fit superpowers back into 1/2.

@@elvickRULES lmao.. 4 didn't do anything perfectly. Fucking space aliens, my nigga.

That could happen if another studio(who understands what Saint's Row is) gets to try, it will never happen as long as WOKElition keeps the IP hostage.

Or have the four of them singing along in the radio and then get into a fatal car crash

It's Stilwater, with one L.

It's the way that the karaoke was done more than the karaoke itself. Sleeping Dogs had karaoke, it was integrated into the story, not as a cheesy ending.

IT'S LAZERZZ TIME BAH HAHAHHAHAHA 😂🤣😅😄

The problem is the sr3 and 4 would’ve happened even if they kept with what they was working granted it would’ve happened much later with each individual (shaundi) finding the sci-fi stuff at some point

@@GeteMachine The thing about the reboot is it could have worked. Social media playing a bigger part in it than modern hiphop or gangstar rap is absolutly fiting for our modern times but the kinds of internet "sub cultures" they chose is as far away from the gangstar popculture as possible. The sad thing for me is that the title screen music had such a great ton. Having the classic theme combined with this western music in away uniting this urben culture with a rural setting as a new basis for a gangstar game was such a missed opportunity.

Thank you! I do have retrospectives planned next year for GTA 4’s 15 year anniversary and GTA V’s 10th 👌🏻

Holy shit that set up would've actually been awesome and one hell of a good swerve.

Yeah. That irks me too and they were never called out for that. The new devs were trying to pretend the stuff they got from Life is Strange, and Far Cry was them being creative.

I'd say Red Dead Redemption 2 deals with that concept pretty well.

@@rjramun - Also Watch Dogs 2.

@@rjramun do you seriously believe that’s what they were going for in Rdr2? Are you joking? Maybe we played different games but I never heard once in the gang someone saying they were good people fighting the rotten economical system. It’s not like you can do that right, it’s a rotten concept from the get-go.