The Saints Thought He Was Terrible. They Drafted Him Anyway

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In 1988, the New Orleans Saints spent a 10th round draft pick on San Diego State quarterback Todd Santos, as in, the all-time leader at the time in Division I-A passing yards. However, when the Saints drafted him, general manager Jim Finks didn't seem too pleased, and proceeded to think he was a terrible quarterback... raising the bizarre question of why they even drafted him in the first place
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@CTubeMan 2 месяца назад

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how the Saints instantly regretted drafting Wide Receiver Larry Burton in the first round in 1975.

@r.williamcomm7693 2 месяца назад

CTubeMan: As the unofficial historian of JG9 you probably have some pull with him. Can you please do me a huge favor even though you don’t know me & see if JG9 will consider what I’ve pasted below? Thank you for any help you can offer. JG9: can you PLEASE do a video explaining how passer rating is calculated & how a QB can get 39.6 by spiking the ball on the ground on every snap? Not saying I doubt you but repeating that to friends always gets me into arguments. I’m tired of emergency room visits & my boss accusing me of being in Fight Club every Monday because of bruises on my face & sometimes a cast on my left hand. PLEASE 🙏 make a video on this. My ribs are so sore & the next concussion could make me a vegetable.

@YautjaHunter3 2 месяца назад

I'm a Saints fan who was paying attention in 88-90 the QBs we had at the time were TERRIBLE. I love me some Bobby Hebert the radio guy, but the cajun cannon was a constant frustration as a starting QB. Jeff Fourcade, Steve Fuller, Steve Walsh.... all basically NFL average or worse. The defense we had at the time, if we had an above average QB we could have at least won a couple playoff games. Not that a 10th round pick was gonna save the day. Add in that the Saints haven't used a 1st round pick on a QB since Archie in 71.... sigh, thank god for Drew Brees. We will probably never approach a QB that good again.

@joshmorgan838 2 месяца назад

Jon Fourcade

@user-kq4hf8se5b 2 месяца назад

I think Bobby might be drunk after the game sometimes, on his radio show.

@jasonchampagne6825 2 месяца назад

Fuller didn't play for the Saints but Mike Buck was as rookie in '90 and Jason Garrett was a practice squad QB in '89 and was cut after the '90 preseason.

@spike6487 2 месяца назад

Most teams likely will never have a quarterback like Brees. He's an all timer. When he retired, he owned pretty much most of the meaningful NFL career passing records until Brady passed him. He piled up yards and TD's.

@dionr1168 2 месяца назад

No wonder they were the Aints until 2006...

@billmalone5050 2 месяца назад

Actually the Ain'ts became the Saints in the strike shortened 15 game 1987-88 season when they came out of nowhere to go12-3 and have their very first winning season and also make their very first playoff appearance as a wildcard team. They went 10-6 in 1988 but did not make the playoffs. The Saints won the NFC West in 1981 with and 11-5 record. The Saints went 12-4 in 1992 and made the playoffs as a wildcard team. The Saints won the NFC West in 2000-01 with a 10-6 record and FINALLY won their very first playoff game ever against the then St. Louis Rams that season. The Saints won the NFC 2006-07 NFC West and advanced to NFC championship game losing to the Chicago Bears. In the 2009-10 NFL season the world turned upside down and Hell froze over when the Saints won Super Bowl 44 by the score of 31-17 over the Indianspolis Colts. While the Saints might not have illustrious histories like the Patriots, Steelers Cowboys, 49ers, Packers, Giants, and Chiefs; since 2006 the Saints have been relatively competitive. And even in the dark old days when they were the Ain'ts.....the Saints fans never abandoned their team. New Orleans would NOT exist without the Saints.

@dionr1168 2 месяца назад

@@billmalone5050 They didn't win shit until Drew Brees came into the picture, which was 2006.

@Skinnyd4 2 месяца назад

I'm no football junkie by any means, but I do enjoy this channel. You do a very good job of telling these stories and it is clear that you've done your homework. Nice work!

@OfficialJaguarGator9 2 месяца назад

Thanks! Much appreciated

@gluserty Месяц назад

I end up spending a lot of time on Jaguargator's channel, going from one vid to the next, and before I know it 3 hours are gone😂. Yeah sure, the stories are about the NFL, but it's also about people, and many times we learn something touching or interesting about an individual. So, football, human interest, and oftentimes I find myself laughing at Jaguargator's responses to more of the bizarre circumstances described...like in this video for instance!

@bigjared8946 2 месяца назад

Strange but not quite as strange as the time they spent the number 11 overall pick on Russell Erxleben with the idea he could be both punter and kicker. He was bad at kicking and not very good at punting.

@buhbuhjaychampagne1706 2 месяца назад

He was used to kicking on a tee in college. That’s why John Lee (2nd round in 1986) couldn’t make it with the cardinals.

@davidsellers3639 2 месяца назад

With the right guy

@cardphins68 2 месяца назад

These recent videos about the Draft have been killin' it, really good stuff. Thank you.

@OfficialJaguarGator9 2 месяца назад

Thanks! Love doing this content

@r.williamcomm7693 2 месяца назад

@@OfficialJaguarGator9 JG9: can you PLEASE do a video explaining how passer rating is calculated & how a QB can get 39.6 by spiking the ball on the ground on every snap? Not saying I doubt you but repeating that to friends always gets me into arguments. I’m tired of emergency room visits & my boss accusing me of being in Fight Club every Monday because of bruises on my face & sometimes a cast on my left hand. PLEASE 🙏 make a video on this. My ribs are so sore & the next concussion could make me a vegetable.

@shackdaddy7106 2 месяца назад

Based on this video, I have come to the conclusion at the 1989 quarterback draft class basically sucked. The only two that had a significant career in the NFL were Chris Chandler and Stan Humphries who both made it to a Super Bowl as a starting quarterback, but lost. other than those Super Bowl years, they were not special at all. Above average at best.

@Subbuteohobby 2 месяца назад

I remember Santos at San Diego State and was shocked when he slipped into the 10th round. For the record, the Saints starting QB at the time was Bobby Hebert, who was undrafted, but gained valuable playing time in the USFL and was one of the better quarterbacks in that league.

@17matt95 2 месяца назад

This would be like last year when they traded up for Jake Haener and having Mickey Loomis say, “He’s short and has a noodle arm.”

@jasonchampagne6825 2 месяца назад

He could've said that about Ian Book. That was a Sean pick, tho.

@chadwickwhite6107 2 месяца назад

The ONLY REASON that the Saints DRAFTED this guy is BECAUSE they wanted him to SPIKE the football into the ground 39.6 TIMES!!!!

@georgeorwell4534 2 месяца назад

Jim Finks was a very decent GM but he downplayed all the talent on the Saints so he could pay them the absolute minimum. All GMs want the same thing but Finks did it by being almost cruel. One of the Saints players stated when Finks passes away he was going to find his grade to p*ss on it.

@nicolesgaming8917 2 месяца назад

Thing is, I could see Balke actually doing this.

@dingerboi4 2 месяца назад

Hard not to fall in love with with the tape even if he only goes short

@BuccaneerBruce 2 месяца назад

I'll eat my hat if JRP gets drafted any earlier than the 7th round.

@dingerboi4 2 месяца назад

📝

@ZDiddy7777 Месяц назад

He got lucky.... instead of getting drafted he was able to sign with the NFLs best franchise. Theres nowhere better than Pittsburgh to teach a rookie how to be a pro..... or to win a Super Bowl..... I mean, imagine going to a team with less winning seasons than Steelers have Division titles, you know, like the..... oooooops, nevermind, my bad. Hey, c'mon, chin up, maybe Mahomes will leave KC at the end of his career and create another opportunity to buy a SB, so theres that to look forwrd too!!

@martincaidin4166 2 месяца назад

holy shit. '88 was a terrible year for QBs.

@depalma13 2 месяца назад

It wasn’t like today, there was no salary cap and no slotted money for contracts. The GM had to negotiate salaries with these players agents. He knew exactly what he was doing and why he said it. A superstar in college, drafted in the 10th round, would still try and demand a large roster bonus. It was all about keeping the salary down.

@mrmoose6619 2 месяца назад

To think... 13 years prior to this, the Saints made a First Round pick that their Coach almost immediately regretted. JG9 made a video about it...

@toddbiesel4288 2 месяца назад

So, if I had a nickel for every time in the 1980s that a team drafted a player they didn't like, I'd have two, well, you know the rest of the saying.

@elephantman5924 2 месяца назад

Perry Kemp graduated from the same high school as Marvin Lewis, Marty Schottenhiemer and me. I never made it to the NFL though lol.

@AJ11OH-IO 2 месяца назад

I really respect this. He was honest and gave the dude a reason a reason to stay humble. It was round 10 and just like today, any dude taken in round 6 or 7 have more cons than pros on the scouting report but no one that addresses the media will acknowledge it. It's all how great he is and the opportunity he has. The patriots may have fired the last genuinely honest dude left. I just think some honest inspiration mixed with some positives isn't all bad.

@geemac7267 2 месяца назад

A couple of things: First, Finks was basically proven right on Santos, as he was a TENTH round draft pick and didn't catch on with any other NFL teams. Second, this is one of the worst drafts for QB in NFL history. Chris Chandler was the best of a sorry bunch and he didn't do much more than throw the ball to the other team until his tenth season (age 34) with Atlanta. That Falcons team was loaded and caught fire for one season, then he was blah again.

@Raxman263 2 месяца назад

Didn't a Saints coach once say, "You think you know, but you don't know." He was with the Colts when he said it I believe.

@buhbuhjaychampagne1706 2 месяца назад

Jim Mora. The “Diddly Poo” quote was another of his.

@studogable 2 месяца назад

My first impression is that the guy was drafted with the intent to trade him.

@ecwfaithful 2 месяца назад

Which is also funny because shitting on him afterwards did nothing but tank his trade value before they could even move him

@studogable 2 месяца назад

@@ecwfaithful yeah, my first impression was obviously wrong.

@MarkVrem 2 месяца назад

LOL Would not be suprised if after the 7th round the GM and his assistants leave to go play golf or eat pizza. Some scout is left in charge of the draft.

@studogable 2 месяца назад

@@MarkVrem not unlikely. I can imagine some intern thinking "Didn't this guy break the NCAA record for passing yards? Screw it, I'm taking him."

@gluserty Месяц назад

Jim Finks struck me as a guy that, especially at that point of his GM career & life, basically said whatever he felt like saying . I don't agree with saying that the statement to the press though, and would've liked it less if I was Santos. I'm familiar with Chandler (who ended up being pretty good, although it took about 5 seasons), Don McPherson (option offense maestro in college), and Scott Secules (Dan Marino's backup, later Scott Zolak's backup for the Patriots in "Tecmo Super Bowl" 1993), but I wasn't aware of Santos.

@coop161616 2 месяца назад

I don’t find this overly surprising. I spent years in an online baseball league with an NFL style draft. By the time you get to the late rounds, there often isn’t anybody left who looks at all promising. But you’ve got to draft somebody, so it makes sense to just draft the guy who had the best college stats, even if you don’t have any real faith in him. I mean, what else are you going to do? Draft some other guy who also looks bad but who had worse stats?

@derfvcderfvc7317 2 месяца назад

Throwing a lot of yards in college at a small school means very little. It means you weren't looked at by actual top level programs and you stuck around for years instead of going to the draft as soon as you could.

@depalma13 2 месяца назад

He went to the draft as soon as he could. The NFL did not permit underclassmen to enter the draft until 1990.

@briannearey8902 2 месяца назад

Yeah,that Mike Perez thing worked out real good 😂

@gorkism 2 месяца назад

Make sense in the 10th round, you’re lucky if you get a starter beyond the 6th round. Especially back when there were less teams.

@jasonchampagne6825 2 месяца назад

Finks was the first GM to make the Saints respectable but his scouting staff wasn't very good at evaluating QBs nor was his coaching staff good at developing them.

@christophernodurft1868 2 месяца назад

Jim Finks. Enough said. I'm a Saints fan. I lived there in NOLA for most of Finks tenure, and I was always scratching my head at his picks and decisions, particularly on offense. At that time, the Saints had a really good defense, but Finks could not put together an offense.

@buhbuhjaychampagne1706 2 месяца назад

We had Eric Martin and that’s about it. Mayes was good for 2 yrs and then blew out his knee. Hilliard was good for one yr and decent for a few others. But being 5’8 and 200 lbs, he took a beating.

@darrencole97 2 месяца назад

Remember that the starting QB of the 49’ers was picked last.

@joshmakeitrite 2 месяца назад

i didn't research the draft so i don't know if there were any actual sleepers in those last 3 rounds. the pick was a prayer. he performed well in college there was still a tiny hope that it would translate over and may at least have some trade value. he sucked at the deep ball but he seemed to be decent at throwing mid routes and the westcoast offense was all the rage then. they "knew" he wouldn't be successful in the pro. but the point in having a 10th 11th and 12 round pick is taking weird chances. i didn't research that draft so i don't know if there were any actual good sleepers in those last 3 rounds.

@AJ11OH-IO 2 месяца назад

A QB not being taken until the 3rd round sounds insane now lol

@DemonKingBadger 2 месяца назад

Couple of years ago, wasn't Kenny Pickett the only one who went before 3rd rd?

@randytracy1742 2 месяца назад

No wonder-Jim finks was a former NFL quarterback-as general manager of the saints he should have the know how to draft players for the offense but he didn’t do it-which is why the saints were awful these days! 😮😮😮😮😮

@dingerboi4 2 месяца назад

There was a Mark (?) Maye from North Carolina, I assume this is Drake’s dad?

@coiler3927 2 месяца назад

What a desolate for quarterbacks draft when the best was Chris Chandler.

@JonPITBZN 2 месяца назад

Chris Chandler played until he was 39 and made two Pro Bowls, not too shabby. Stan Humphries was a guy you could win with. Tom Tupa was a smart value pick because he played 2 positions and had NFL upside at both of them. Basically you use one pick to take a chance on two players. Everything after those guys....woof. Santos was the 4th QB taken in that draft *who never played a down in the NFL*

@jayvillane 2 месяца назад

So he was basically Tim Tebow before Tim Tebow

@americanidol30 2 месяца назад

I'm sorry! What!

@danevertt3210 2 месяца назад

The guy narrating this doesn’t sound like the guy I remember

@dangeiger9796 2 месяца назад

Maybe they drafted him because his last name means Saints in Spanish

@marcus813 2 месяца назад

BTW, Scott Secules' surname is pronounced SEE-kyoolz. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T7r1YFltKQE.htmlsi=vEeP6dVCS7O286Z2&t=7 As for Santos, I'm not sure what Jim Finks' thought process was. Why draft a player you don't believe in at all? I know Santos was only a 10th-round pick, but he seemed like a waste of a pick given how Finks was describing him.

@mikeprima7555 2 месяца назад

THE SAINTS HAVEN'T DRAFTED A QB SINCE THE 1970,S IN THE FIRST ROUND MABY ITS TIME 2 DRAFT ANOTHER FIRST ROUND QB

@ckobo84 2 месяца назад

Total soft tosser. We had a similar limp wristed guy here in Minnesota who I thought wouldn't amount to anything because of his soft tossing rag arm: Rich Gannon