The San-Ti Explain how they Stop Science on Earth | 3 Body Problem | Netflix 

Or if Ye Wengie didn't get screwed over in life a bunch.

No. Santi has decided to take the earth when they received the message from Ye wenjie

Eventually they will know regardless if this book was read lol

​@@user-ud3hr3rw4hbut they thought they could coexist until they discovered we can lie

Yeah, or at least he could have lied about the fact that we lie when it asked for confirmation 🤦‍♂️

The original books are out for a long time, so what does Netflix figure in the not so grand scheme of things?

@@Kumurajiva The existence of the books doesn't mean the series can't be cancelled. Any number of things can cause a show to have its plug pulled. Happens all the time; politics behind the scenes, union strikes, waning interest, a scandal, budget issues, etc.. I'm not saying any of these things will happen, but the fact that the books are complete holds no bearing on the continuation of the show.

People need to watch it so netflix would be enticed to renew so please promote the show. It's all about profitability

no we don't. These books are dogshit

S02 confirmed can't cancel the guys who made GOT. Your company would never recover.

Damn that's right...and they launched an assault from that micro-universe.

The eye in the sky

Don't think sorry's easily said Don't try turning tables instead You've taken lots of chances before But I ain't gonna give anymore Don't ask me That's how it goes 'Cos part of me knows what you're thinking Don't say words you're gonna regret Don't let fire rush to your head I've heard the accusation before And I ain't gonna take anymore Believe me The sun in your eyes Made some of the lies worth believing I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind And I don't need to see anymore to know that I can read your mind (looking at you) I can read your mind (looking at you) I can read your mind (looking at you) I can read your mind (looking at you) Don't leave false illusions behind Don't cry I ain't changing my mind So find another fool like before 'Cos I ain't gonna live anymore believing Some of the lies while all of the sign are deceiving I am the eye in the sky Looking at you I can read your mind I am the maker of rules Dealing with fools I can cheat you blind And I don't need to see anymore to know that I can read your mind (looking at you) I can read your mind (looking at you) I can read your mind (looking at you) I can read your mind (looking at you)

Can you tell me in which book at which page it was? Want to read it again

Nah not exactly, the book says that there ‘COULD HAVE’ been life within that atom existing on another plane, and the trisolarans use it as propaganda to tell their populace not to feel bad for the destruction of earth because civilizations get destroyed all the time

I enjoy Independence Day for what it was but it was very conventional alien invasion story that Hollywood is used to. This one... this is something most people have never even dreamt of.

that's why this book series earned so many awards

There are those among us that want to destroy science and prevent our advancement. We don't need aliens... just look around and listen to what the radical extremist among us are saying.

许多科幻作家有一两个点子就可以写一部小说了，而刘慈欣在这三部小说中毫不吝啬的给你奉百倍的头脑风暴，我第一次读小说时大为震撼。

i think of it as impossible to do such a thing. If the alien civilization is so smart they wouldnt need to travel 1% of lightspeed over 400 years to reach us. With this kind of technology to turn a proton into a supercomputer they would also have the ability to fold space or even travel through wormholes I suppose. This alien race if its an alien race, is extremely smart and know its technology.

😂😂😂ha ha hahaha nice call back brother.

But Sam Tarly....

And he though that night was dark and full of terror, he didnt know what lurks in the dark forest...

The universe is dark and full of terrors.

the whole idea that they don't understand information hiding as a concept makes very little sense when you realize that the very first response received by Ye was "a pacificist" on his world who said don't contact this world again or we will invade. the implication being, he was going to HIDE the fact that he received a response from the rest of his telepathic buddies.

You haven't seen anything yet.

@@eternal_napalm6442 Oh I’ve read the books, I know what’s up 😉

I’m a bit sceptical about the belief that we don’t have catastrophes in the past. Many people believe that there were megalithic civilisations but they were completely wiped out before the Young Dryas era twelve thousand years ago. They left behind nothing except huge stones, like Stonehenge in England, Pyramid in Giza, etc. We still cannot explain how those large granite stones were perfectly cut and transported and stacked together. And there are proofs of large catastrophic events happened in the Young Dryas era that has led to massive sea level rises and the complete desertification of Sahara. We may find more proofs under the ocean or in the Sahara Desert some day.

although, do we know for sure? asteroids could have destroyed prior civilizations. A flood? Atlantis, etc

@@dennisd9875 Individual civilizations? Maybe. The Spanish Inquisition caused the end of the Aztecs. The difference is that every Chaotic Era is an apocalyptic event wiping out all of the San Ti, meaning that the equivalent for us would be a single event that wiped out all of humanity and set us back one step of the evolutionary chain. We’ve had massive catastrophies, the Black Plague being the most recent one, wiping out 50% of Europe’s population. However, that’s still just one continent. A catastrophe like what the San Ti would endure during a Chaotic Era, wiping out all of humanity (or whatever subset of the Homo species we would’ve been)…no, it’s never been scientifically proven that we have been through that.

De hiszen már nagyon - nagyon régóta így megy... nem akarunk mást látni, csak az illúziót.

The universe will remain a mystery to you.

Sounds like politicians and the WEF.

Thats how religions were created 😹

easily hacked into our computers created a scenario where there is WW3 and have us all killed by nuclear war or could have launched them on thier own too but chose to disrupt science 🙄

Not really

@@olafjansowidzyes really

@@dj_bosnian99.21 no

​@@olafjansowidz Tri was a disadvantage against human... That's why they sabotage human development focus on human science since they are afraid base on their calculations when they arrive 400 years later humans will progress and surpass them. Humans in earth progress was rapid support by stable earth without any catastrophes that delay the progress especially in science meanwhile The Tri eventhough ancient race and existing millions of millions years earlier than human have to restarted every time catastrophic happens in their home planets....

​@@dj_bosnian99.21 bug people has plot armor to not being wiped out before they contact hoomans

there is a guy who make really good videos about those kind of books. he got me hooked into the 3BP quinn idea if you want to check him out

@@sadsa-mi5lh Yea I've seen a couple of Quinn videos! He amazing!

This isn't quite 'cosmic horror'.

FYI if you want to find similar media (books, tv, and movies), this is more cosmic existentialism than cosmic horror. The movie "Interstellar" fits in that category but is a bit more optimistic.

If our planet was dying we would want to do the same. That’s very in line with human nature.

because you are a person of science

@@greg.peepeeface Isn't that the point?

@@weltschmerzistofthaufig2440 obviously

C. e .r .n

Extinguishing Sagan's candle...

Those poor aliens, there is nothing more dangerous in this universe than a scared and pissed off hairless ape.

I fear the end of the month RENT!!!!!

I fear Bill Gates's bio engineered mosquitoes

This has so much meaning, specially given the fermi paradox theory this show is based off of.

@@vampiricalchemist Did you read the 2nd book? It's literally the Dark Forest theory.

shes so arrogant xD dommy mommy :D

santi will never ballin

Somebody’s a sapiosexual

Try years

Great sci-fi concepts, characters aren't compelling, bad "romance" stories shoehorned in make me check my phone.

They green light another season already

@@SpaceTravel1776counter argument, the characters ARE compelling and their romances are integral to what is happening in the long run.

@@BLVCKSPVDE That's just a lie. The creators are prepping one just in case but nothing has been confirmed. The show did okay in views but still tough to see if it warrants the budget for season 2/3 which are probably twice what season 1 cost.

Humans started it first. Aliens needed to fight back to survive.

Idk about “are”. Maybe they were clearly scared way before but at the time this took place they seemed confident in their technology and success. They were even calling humans names lol

@@keewayne3wdym humans started it? All that humans did was said a “hello” through radio, and then an INDIVIDUAL basically damned the entire race because she thought she knew best. Humans didn’t start anything, everything humanity does is in self defense

​@@keewayne3 From what I know in this one the aliens decided to conquer the planet from the start. Remeber the first message they recive from them.

@@eduardmanecuta5350 It was conquering not derived from ambition but conquering for survival. Because in three body star system, there is no guarantee that situation cannot become so harsh that even their dehydration will fail and leading them to extinction.

ya there are million different artistic renderings of ways any of this could have looked and they managed to do a pretty good job of making it actually kind of simple - it's a computer that can cause mass hallucinations and communicate instantaneously across at least 4.1 lightyears of space. How do you even visualize what that is suppsoed to look like? What is a computer printed on a proton even supposed to look like? How do we even get down that small and construct anything out of anything when we are already as small as one of the smallest units in physics already. How are there molecules and elements down here that make up a computer - idk xD its so wild it brings me so many questions.

Did you know that your average San-Ti is as small as an ant? They're projecting and projecting hard! xD

@@1999yasindid the jack guy blow one of them when going first into the simulation.

just like Gelflings and Skeksis

@@1999yasin They remained undescribed in the trilogy. Their physiology was only given in a book by another author, and it doesn't make sense to me. How could the ships of such tiny creatures hold enough space for Tianming and fields of crops?

@@riesstiu2khunning I aware! Why, I'm not sure how much of that book we're allowed to consider canon either, but they should be perfectly capable to build a space ship large enough to harbour a human or even entire fields!

Wow, you never saw the first season of Raised by Wolf??? (second season was bleh)

@@chasx7062 No I think I missed that one. It's on HBO right? I might have to check it out.

its nerd heaven but its incredibly pessimistic, its a future for losers awaiting death.

And don't forget the splash of gore

this show is woke garbage that botched every cool concept of the book into easily digestible garbage for low iq redditors, i feel bad for the chinese people seeing their literature destroyed by mentally ill netflix executives like this

This scene still makes my skin crawl , so well done.

Best episode of sci-fi ever, perhaps.

The nanowires, amirite? Watching that, "Holy shit, like near invisible scythes!"

@@eternal_napalm6442you’ve never watched the Expanse if you think that was the best episode in sci-fi

I am so happy they showed it in all its morbid glory and didn't try to downplay it at all.

It was a great way to introduce the 10 dimensions and the Chain of Suspicion, too.

the destruction of a whole universe of beings was highly disturbing and foreshadows later things that happen to our universe in the third book too, but seems omitted - one of the most 'cosmic horror' parts of it.

That was scene that had me hooked, I was absolutely mind blown I had to pause the audiobook to rewind the explanation of how they unfolded the higher dimensions, the show should’ve had the scenes of the initial failures of the sophon building where the proton becomes a bunch of string that falls all over the planet, or the bit where they discuss how there could’ve been a whole civilization existing within the proton that they just destroyed

that's the thing with sci fi for the masses. most people will go to sleep if you start going too much into the science. imagine if the producers spent ten minutes explaining how a light saber or the enterprise transporter beam works. unfolding the 10 dimensions? i can't even fold my washed linen.

I guess they had to rush it. because this already cost them the highest ever for a Netflix series. If it was Apple, HBO or amazon it would have been better since they have the money to do huge projects.

Which episode is this?

@@MihirPoojari Episode 5

You should definitely read the book. This scene is way explained in more details and it is terrifying.

@@ThiagoSilveira1 It's still sci-fantasy, not scientific. Quantum entanglement renders on truly randomness, which is equivalent to Vernam Cipher or Shannon's Perfect Secrecy. That is to say, the information channel delivers ZERO information in Vernam Cipher. In other words, quantum entanglement cannot be used to transfer any information.

@@Akira_Nakamoto like Santi said," for u it is impossible but for us it is possible".

If you read the 3rd book in the series, you will appreciate how sick and twisted she really is.

Season 3 is apocalyptic.

​@@chidieberendukwu No , If We are the advanced one ,We will do same to the weaker one as San-Ti do to us ,Then the weaker civilization will say:that the fuck earth civilization never has basic moral or sympathy at all

@@chidieberendukwu I believe the Trisolarans are not worse than Earthlings. When Europeans came to the Americas, the Native Americans were massacred by the Europeans when they encountered Europeans who had more advanced science than them. The Trisolarans do not harbor hatred towards Earthlings; they, like the Europeans arriving in the Americas, simply need to survive

It's so deadpan and psychopathic. Like being tied up a in serial killers trunk and he's just standing over you looking you in the eye telling you what he's gonna do to do you and how long it's gonna last and then he slams the trunk shut and that's the last thing you ever see! Chills

Makes think really theirs two of those particles yes powerful but not godlike say humans establish a large industrial outpost on oort cloud kept top secret built a new particle accelerator in deep space make the huge discovery's and forward the results back to earth via radio or means of probe disguised as a comet .

nothing beats stranger things

@@Pong_ping95 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yeah, “1899” and “The OA” too hope they both get renewed for a season somewhere else…even though their from different streaming services I hope “Raised by wolves” and “The peripheral” get revived elsewhere as well 🤞

I'm not going to watch it until the whole season is done. It does look and sound good so I'm eager to watch it. Even though it made quite a lot of changes, I am not complaining. What i do hope for is that they get to adapt the Dark Forest story as I want to see certain events that i wont spoil as i read both books (and currently on the third)

@@rogueninja4719the whole season is done That’s how Netflix works

season 1 is already complete my man@@rogueninja4719

​@@rogueninja4719you got complete season at the day they released it

powerless for you maybe, I refuse logic and sanity in the face of such horror, break the unbreakable, touch the untouchable.

@@keithfilibeck2390 It makes sense that you want to break what's UNbreakable, etc., if you refuse logic.

@@IanPaoloAcosta because we can and will do so, the human will is strongest thing on the planet, and it'll certainly rival anything in the stars.

@@keithfilibeck2390 but that's very self-centered. Human will compared to the will of the trisolarians in that universe is... we are what they called "bugs". Their will to survive multiple catactlystic events that destroyed their civilzation multiple times, yet they came back multiple times, shows how ingrained their resilience is. Their world was all about survival of the fittest AND YET they still evolved intelligence and technology on a world where a simple "survive extreme heat/cold/natural catastrophe etc., so become maybe a simple organism" would suffice. It shows how insignificant we can be because in the end, we aren't that special or as special as we thought. Just another branch of life existing through the universe, still in walking in its narcissistic and ego-centered infant stages.

@@keithfilibeck2390 Among stellar beings, who do you have humans to compare to?

Cheerfully menacing. I think if Auggie had been brought into the VR scape she would have understood just how screwed we are.

The actor's name is Sea Shimooka. Not surprised she did so well in this role, even with limited work history. In the credits and elsewhere her character is just referred to as "Sophon".

ASMR.

I loved how the show does it but the way the book did this scene is very different and even more mind blowing, I highly recommend

Time to do less watching and more reading. There is an argument to be made the past 15 years were a golden era is scifi writing, watchable media is only now starting to catch up.

You got mind blown from this “dumbed down” version? Try the books 😂

@@b1d00bd2 i cant read. I have eye problems.

@@checkma8s I listen to audiobooks, just as great

we don't know yet. Our existence is like a blink in the earth's history.

We had a few catastrophic resets, its just the mainstream "science" this fiction is based on doesn't want to acknowledge the evidence.

RIP dinosaurs

They already have.

@@Gltokensp06They didn't yet

@@Gltokensp06 No they didn't, they're still deciding if it's worth the cost. Season 1 cost them 160 million, Season 2/3 are easily more expensive.

Cancel season 2 is not painful enough.......

That's why I am watching how long the show stays in the #1 spot.

Cringe Netflix Sci-Fi at its best xD

​@@tykjenffs Your brain is the size of a sophon. We get it.

@@tykjenffsHow and why? Explain your cringe argument please.

​@@tykjenffs 👎🗑️🤡

@@tykjenffsHow it is "cringe netflix Sci-Fi" Do you realize this is based on a book that has NOTHING to do with netflix?

ASMR

Yeah the tone is good. Feels like AI but not.

There are only 3 books

​@@user-mz7de3kc3d it's Netflix, they could make 6 seasons, 3 from original book and 3 from their own imagination

The producers have said they'll have 4 seasons max

​@@user-mz7de3kc3dthe later two books are much longer. Though it would take an incredible scriptwriter to make it screenworthy

There is 4th spinoff book by another writer approved by writer of original trilogy.

really? for the better?

@@Shupao77 Absolutely. I switched my major to mathematics because of it.

@@brandonwallace1725that’s so cool

Well we all know what you would have done if you had seen the first alien message

@@willowwisp1000 I'd make Wade look like an innocent child.

Ps. I am 100% willing to cancel my newly acquired Netflix subscription shall this series second season be cancelled.

Ser Davos is truly the one who've won the game of thrones.

I would have liked to see him on the iron throne At least the onion knight would be a better king then Brandon fucking Stark (It should have been Jon/Aegon VI)

and thus becoming what they thought we would become, correct? (I haven't watched it yet)

Dw they will get fucked in the end , some one else will fuck us 😓 but we will persist . 🥂🍻 to humanity

I fear not the smug aliens, I am Man, human, I have crushed all of reality so far, and men and women like me will reach into the starts and crush such arrogant aliens.

Wait until you see the nasty technology (and ideology) the Zero-Homers have.

@@keithfilibeck2390 The droplet will humble you.

The book was published in 2008 in China and its first English version was published in 2014.

​@@Vera150607 you're taking OP's comment too literal. He's just wishing a book that explores the kind of ideas that 3BP does had existed during his formative years.

hehehe indeed

Good thing he learned to read. ;p

Wait until book 3 🤯

@@kouvang5440 On it now. If Life has changed the universe, is there really such a thing as 'nature'? 🤯

@@kouvang5440 i am a tomb

@@IanPaoloAcostathat disturbs me

book 3 will blow your mind I promise.

Wait until everything reaches the thrid book. What happens then is INSANE

Isn't that the nature of things, that there's always a bigger fish in the pond? I once read a story, sadly I forgot the title and author. In it, an alien species arrives at earth, asking for help in their war with another alien species. Earth becomes a simple war colony over time. If I remember correctly they even switch sides some day and ally with the other alien species. The war goes on and on and on, and in the end, earth gets completely destroyed while the war still goes on in countless other galaxies and on countless other planets. This series reminds me of that story in a way. Humanity thinks we are the shit, but we are just collateral to forces we can't even fathom.

@@xamalion7334 there are similarities but the setting in three body is far more sinister and existential. The explanation for the Fermi Paradox it gives us is utterly brilliant all the while extremely possible in our own reality.

@@Masshysteria40 It's based on the assumption that mutually assured destruction doesn't work, an assumption not based in reality as far as we're aware. Mutually assured destruction is a deterrent, so this isn't the solution to the Fermi paradox.

@@AuthorityCat that’s not what I’m referring to at all. I’m referring to the notion that the reason we don’t see or hear from aliens is because it’s dangerous to reveal yourself in the “Dark Forest”, the entire premise of the latter half of the 2nd book and the entirety of the third

@@AuthorityCat That very thing will actually come up. Mutually assure destruction IS a deterrent!

It's sci-fi so no science behind this

read all three books and only watched quinns videos on the fan book. all i can say is this show exceeded my expectations in adapting the first book. the change of characters dont feel blank while also explaining the science in a not too complicated way. And im also glad they kind of included some concepts of the 2nd and third book as a setup of whats to come.

Some of my favorite books. Dark Forest especially is a masterpiece. I do like the changes the Netflix series made, though.

Agreed. I have no idea how the next 2 books will be adapted?

When Native Americans encountered Europeans who were more scientifically advanced than them, they were massacred by the Europeans. Despite the Europeans having more advanced technology than the Native Americans, they harmed the Native Americans for their own survival. Technological advancement does not necessarily equate to kindness. Present-day Native Americans certainly do not wish Columbus had discovered them. Humans possess intelligence and civilization that animals do not, but many people hunt just for pleasure. Some of these people may be Christians or Muslims who believe devoutly, yet they do not hate hunting animals for pleasure. How much animals wish humans wouldn't discover them. Therefore, the dark forest law also exists on Earth

Is it by calling for help in the universe to a kind of galaxy police force ? Frankly i can’t imagine there would be none if the galaxy was so dangerous.

@@slylataupe4272 No. But "calling someone" is involved :)

@@harzzachseniorgamer5516 🤦‍♂️ who you gone call if not the police ? Ghostbusters? 😂

Ooh I'm so intrigued. Is it calling future humans?

@@juax3974 oh that’s a clever hypothesis!

Yup 3 Body Problems was quite a refreshment in the sci-fi genre.

Meanwhile Samwell Tarly finally bit the dust.

The book describes it much better. I recommend reading it

It’s already been started. There are three books and the scale and timeline are huge. They dipped into all three books in this first season but there are still so many unbelievable story lines and plot twists coming up I imagine this lasting at least 5 seasons.

Its so dumb

Physics discovered atoms and found ways to control them, leading to the creation of atomic bombs. However, no matter how advanced engineering and chemistry are, they can never create atomic bombs. If a method to control time and space is discovered, people could build space jump engine ships to achieve faster-than-light travel. Engineering and chemistry, no matter how advanced, can never build light-speed spaceships. Therefore, the alien influence on particle accelerators, making every experiment result incorrect, signifies the end of human physics, and engineering technology, no matter how much it develops, has limitations. In this TV series, aliens possess a type of space weapon called the two-dimensional card. The card can transform planets or star systems from a three-dimensional world into a two-dimensional plane world. This is a physics weapon.

I’m pretty the MCU covered it.

San Ti Ren don't know how to lie

@@GodsBlessing00 Good, that means we have an advantage, a big one.

Partial accelerator teach us the laws of the universe. By understating these laws of physic comes the possibility of right direction of scientific developments and break through. Human is like fighting an mordant army with swords and arrows. We need the knowledge of science of that is the backbone of modern military weapons. The San-Ti is making sure human remains the level of the blacksmith in terms of science/ technology.

@@sid2112that's probably why they decided there was no way they could live side by side with humans

@@jjsamuelgunn1136 Ok. Then it's a fight. Humans are even better at fighting than they are at lying!

When your enemies can’t do jack about it

Hubris

The Sophon was never programmed to be decietful or crafty

It's covered much more in the book series that the San-ti have great difficulty deceiving others or lying because they are telepathic. All of their thoughts are like an open book for other San-ti to understand. It's their nature to be truthful. The moment when the San-ti realize that humans can lie, cheat, and strategize in secret was an "Earth" shattering revelation to their society. Hence why in the show they stop all communication with their human allies.

As they stated in the show, Sang Ti can't lie. They're honest.