THE SCANDAL BRUSHED UNDER THE CARPET! The Story of the Ferrari 'Cheat' Engines (2018-2019)

Подписаться 102 тыс.

Просмотров 98 тыс.

50% 1

Normally I don't do modern stories but made an exception for this one because it's interesting and we don't know what came of it, and probably never will.
In 2018, Ferrari managed to gain a stupid amount of engine power almost overnight, by F1 standards, and at a certain point of the season, the advantage mysteriously disappeared- Leading to accusations that the Scuderia had been trying to cheat the FIA's rules regarding battery power and fuel flow in successive years, as the same thing happened in 2019 as well.
But how did they cheat, if they were? Let's have a look.
Enjoy! And remember to like and subscribe for more!
------
Wikipedia images used under the following CC Licenses:
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Flickr images used under the following CC Licenses:
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
creativecommons.org/licenses/...
Business enquiries: amsimracing@gmail.com
Patreon: www.patreon.com/aidanmillward
Discord: / discord
Instagram: amillward01
Twitter: Aidan_Millward
Steam: AdmiralLaWind
----
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 @3.9gHz
Motherboard: MSI B450 Mortar Micro ATX
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x 8gb @ 3000mHz
GPU: MSI GTX1660 w/ slight OC
Editing Software: Sony Vegas 14 Steam Edition
Wheel: Simucube 2 Pro - Cube Controls Formula Pro Rim
Pedals: Fanatec Clubsport V3 with Brake Performance Kit

Спорт

Опубликовано:

4 авг 2024

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист

Посмотреть позже

Комментарии : 431

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

I said 128kw. It’s 120. Where the hell did I get 128 from? Must have been the converter.

@F-Man 2 года назад

The catalytic converter!

@squidcaps4308 2 года назад

Fellow sound engineer here.. I usually have 20dB limiter when listening youtube, so i don't have to bother with varying sound levels. Didn't have it on today and i think you could compress a bit more and raise gain, it is a bit quiet overall.

@GregBrownsWorldORacing 2 года назад

a rounding error. Computer Science Geek Here - Then there's the accumulated round off error. So depending on your policy a> Always blame the computer or b> It's got to be right, the computer said so or C> I saw it somewhere on the internet (I just did)... you can chose from any and all so it's never totally your fault :) Good show

@rmelv 2 года назад

It was that damned flux capacitor

@DekGT5mad 2 года назад

Another small correction - Ricciardo lost his MGU-K at Monaco 2018,not gearbox problems, he just did not use 8th gear after that point to stop the engine bogging down

@MsZeeZed 2 года назад

It’s also possible that Ferrari’s “figuring out” of how a fuel flow sensor worked was achieved in a way that was embarrassing to the FIA (bribery, hacking or poor device security allowing Ferrari to reverse engineer a sensor). This loophole was then closed to them and the FIA-Ferrari confidential agreement was we won’t call your cheating if you don’t call our incompetence. It had to be public there was an agreement as other teams were calling Ferrari cheats in public, having guessed 90% of how.

@rhyswilliams4893 2 года назад

There was more to a ferrari engine than cheating the fuel sensor apparently. I spoke with a guy who worked for Ferrari and the reason it didn't come out was because it was using tech planned for the Sf90 road car.

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 года назад

Good point. It's so weird, that we still don't know, what actually happened. We might actually never know. That's quite crazy

@scordatura9259 2 года назад

@@rhyswilliams4893 source: trust me bro

@rhyswilliams4893 2 года назад

@@scordatura9259 exactly. It's all hearsay but I believed him at least. Doesn't say you should though

@rhyswilliams4893 2 года назад

@@scordatura9259 the fact is there is no legitimate source widely available.

@taufiqutomo 2 года назад

Almost 75% of the way towards Aidan's magnum opus.

@roryevans4295 2 года назад

I expect it to be at least an hour long now considering how long us OG’s have had to wait for it 😭

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

It’s just going to be a link to the beyond the grid.

@mrterp04 2 года назад

Good old Robert Brown

@americanpride9733 2 года назад

Surprised it hasnt gotten bigger. Him an david land are both underrated

@uweheinrich6784 Год назад

Hi Aidan....I actually like your "underfunded and slow" stories. They are great as they often get forgotten so quickly. They are so good because there are very unique characters and individual events behind them, even if they can be easily summed up as "underfunded and slow". Please keep them coming.....

@JohnSmithShields 10 месяцев назад

Plus there is a great chance it will feature Brazil's 100th greatest driver.

@Malachi_Marx 2 года назад

I really love this series! It doesn't matter if its NASCAR, F1, Indy, IMSA, WEC, WRC/WRX, the technical details are something I always enjoy learning about. Thanks for the video!

@robertharrington703 2 года назад

In a sporting context it was obviously cheating but it was such mechanically intelligent cheating (like with the Toyota restrictor plate) it's hard to have anything but respect for them despite it

@MrSniperfox29 2 года назад

If the FIA can't prove what you did was wrong and have to actually ask you, then credit to you

@tjroelsma 2 года назад

@@MrSniperfox29 Which isn't that difficult as proven by the number of cheats the FIA didn't catch on to. Simply put: the FIA are somewhat skilled in making up rules (I say somewhat because a lot of their rules actually end up having the adverse result of what the FIA was expecting) but terrible at enforcing these rules because they seriously lack the expertise and/or brainpower to think things through properly. Take for example the DAS system: Mercedes developed and implied it as an aerodynamical device while constantly discussing it with the FIA. So it was legal. But then Red Bull stepped in and said "hang on guys, this DAS system must also be seen as an active suspension device, as Mercedes is actively changing the setup of the front." Something the FIA "experts" hadn't even considered. When the FIA is só inept at it's core tasks, then it isn't really any wonder that there have been so many cheats in the sports.

@MrSniperfox29 2 года назад

@@tjroelsma To be fair, DAS is just the latest in the long line of "yup that's legal, oh wait, someones protested, nope, now that's illegal" that's happened pretty much throughout the history of F1 Mercedes should be happy these days such things aren't immediately banned like the were back in the day, forcing many teams to completely redesign cars on the whim of the FIA and a protest.

@tjroelsma 2 года назад

@@MrSniperfox29 Yes, but it one of the most recent and most telling of stupidities the FIA approved of, especially as it took Red Bull one look at the system to figure out that it also fell into the category of active suspension, while the FIA was clueless about that. As to Mercedes being happy: what about Red Bull, that won multiple races with a rear wing that had way too much flex under pressure and therefore had an illegal advantage? Or the shady deal Ferrari made with the FIA over the fuel flow sensor controversy? The FIA is just hopelessly incapable.

@MrSniperfox29 2 года назад

@@tjroelsma The same rear wing that passed every single test the FIA gave it? What about the Mercedes front wing which also flexed way too much? Passed the same tests yet to everyone else it was also illegal?

@youerny 2 года назад

just my two cents: 1) Fuel flow: as a control system PhD I still have some concerns about the actual increase in fuel amount -given viscosity and other fluid-mech aspects- you can get in between data samplings at such high rate. But I could be wrong, the fuel could be very "liquid" and the pump can have a very instantaneous reserve of high pressure... Still perplex tough. 2) Dual battery: In my opinion FIA should truly make less stringent everything limiting electric performances. Cars are getting more and more electrified and I miss the point of having caps on instantaneous MGU-K/H KW, el power per lap, batteries, etc. Freedom in those areas would result in more research for EVs, discoveries beneficial for urban mobility and interest from automotive constructors whose trajectory is electrification.

@jimmydesouza4375 2 года назад

I often watch random trivia channels, I have to thank you for being one of the few that actually speaks at a decent rate. I have to watch most of them at 2x and even then many of them are slow.

@slamanna212 Год назад

Very cool video, didnt know there were 2 different scandals in this time period. Also wild to watch this after the 2022 season.

@fahada1921 Год назад

Just discovered this channel and I love it. Thanks for this content.

@Revvenge 2 года назад

From what I gather from Dutch press, it is assumed Ferrari (also?) pumped fuel into the fuel lines to the engine (past the fuel flow sensor) while off the throttle, to give additional fuel flow coming out of corners. This is the reason for the second fuel flow sensor, which was closer to the engine, and also coincided with the drop in performance. In addition, in Austin (I think?) they ran low downforce to offset the loss in power to make it appear they were still achieving similar top speeds and thus weren't affected by the rules clarification. Ironically this is the opposite to what McLaren did with Honda in their last year together, where they intentionally ran very high downforce to show high cornering speed and low top speed so they could blame Honda for poor performance. Honda wasn't great, exactly, but neither was McLaren itself at that point.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

Pretty much, yeah. They had to run less downforce to go as fast in both 18 and 19 and it shagged them in the corners.

@americanpride9733 2 года назад

Just wanna say that the camerawork has gotten so much better in so little time. Idk what you did but it looks great so keep it up

@patrickkennedy2533 2 года назад

in the words of the illustrious Bob Varsha "whats good for Ferrari is good for Formula 1"

@teknikairaoulolgandessabek4102 2 года назад

Thank you for this great video. I've just subscribed.

@DonWan47 2 года назад

I love the engineering aspect of F1 so videos like this are gold to me.

@greghanson5696 Год назад

Nice work on this vid Aidan!

@astroshooter1960 Год назад

Been watching your indepth videos on motor sport for a while now and just realized I wasn't a subscriber. The algorithms probably send your content my way I guess? I do enjoy them very much as I've been a Formula One fan since my first race in 1987 Detroit Grand Prix and watch the Great Aryton Senna win.... yeah I'm old.. but still enjoy my racing. Oh... I'm a subscriber now 👍

@DonWan47 2 года назад

Love the Enterprise E reference, well played. Good video. There’s always been a strong connection between finding the loopholes and cheating. I have neither an engineering nor a legal degrees so it’s well above my pay grade but I think teams who find the loopholes should be applauded, for one season, and then lose their advantage or have it shared.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

If it says don’t do it and you do, that’s creating. If it doesn’t explicitly say what you can’t do, then do it. Ferrari did the former, allegedly.

@jackcasey8316 2 года назад

I really wanted to know more about this particular controversy. So glad to see this :)

@Mike_Connor 2 года назад

Aidan, Have you done a video about Honda's dodgy fuel tank from 2005? I spoke to a Honda F1 team member afterwards and he had an interesting perspective on it - not earth shattering, but interesting.

@johnmartin6178 2 года назад

Was there an explanation as to why the Ferrari sent out a puff of smoke when exiting the pit garage. Surplus oil or an illegal injection of oil into the air or turbo intake?

@paulmccourt6185 2 года назад

The biggest problem was Jean Todt in this situation

@alphatrion100 2 года назад

Yeah Jean todt was president of fia up until 2021

@simple_livin Год назад

Recently subbed. What's the intro/outlook tune? Can't get it out of my head

@minibus9 2 года назад

awesome video

@keithy4129 2 года назад

I’m still confused about the merc engine advantage at Brazil. I thought all teams that use the same engine have to use the same engine map? If this is indeed the case how did merc make more power?

@TheTrickytrick88 2 года назад

Engine has to do far less mileage then what would otherwise be expected of it. So they ran it in a more aggressive setting for the race weekends it did. Nothing dodgy, nothing untoward and exactly what any team would do in that situation.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

The teams have to use the same engine maps in qualifying and for the race. So if they use max power in qualifying they have to use it in the race. Merc just built an engine to to four races not seven and were able to turn it to 11 for the whole thing.

@keithy4129 2 года назад

@@xSirDingo ok, that makes sense. I was under the impression that all of the merc engines were required to run the same map. Thanks for clearing that up.

@alvinnieves590 2 года назад

I still wont forget when Matia Binotto in 2019 went on record saying that he was looking forward to other teams protesting the engine so Ferrari can show how stupid other teams were.

@formula2tom225 2 года назад

yeah Binotto sure showed them, he sacrificed the entire season in 2020. to make the golden child look good in 2019... anyway i can't wait for the 22 season to begin..i'm sure u can't either

@alvinnieves590 2 года назад

@@formula2tom225 always look forward to a new season. However, if there is something that I've learned is: until the first qualy session opens every news regarding car design and development is speculation.

@brokenclutchmotorsport 2 года назад

Thank you for the Star Trek reference!

@prod.cozybeats2299 2 года назад

As a Ferrari fan who’s been coping since 2015 (yes Seb Vettel) this story always is a must watch for me.

@Jon.S 2 года назад

There's a difference between cheating and finding a loophole in the regulations. It's clear Ferrari were doing clever stuff, but as the FIA couldn't prove it, any reference to cheating is just an allegation. It's pretty clear the FIA were keen to close the loophole, and avoid having to go through a protracted process where they were forced to admit they couldn't prove Ferrari were cheating, and Ferrari were keen to avoid a protracted process where they would keep saying they were in compliance to the wording of the regulations.

@antonisapostolou5139 2 года назад

Aidan please do a story on how Mercedes found half a second of pace in 2021, from Brazil onwards, just when they needed it. That should be interesting reading.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

Pretty easy to explain: they took the engine penalty that would have sent Lewis back to about 9th as a minimum, and with there only being four races left at that point they only had to run it for four races instead of seven. They’d trialled this “plan” with Bottas at Monza, just in case they needed to take an engine penalty later on in the season. The simple matter is, they figured out exactly how hot to run it for those four races and ran it. But they only used this “warp drive” in Brazil and Abu Dhabi and put the old one in for Qatar and Arabia. Oh, and they figured out the issues with the car setup. It had a very narrow setup window (like the 94 Williams) and it was only from sort of Russia onwards they cracked it.

@Olivyay 2 года назад

It was not just from Brazil, they already had more pace in Italy and Turkey, it was just not as obvious because it's easier to overtake at Interlagos.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

@@Olivyay Bottas was testing the warp drive at Italy, that’s why. And the Merc being low rake it’s faster in a straight line anyway.

@phodge9985 Год назад

Watched this when it came out but it was recommended to me again so here I am. Still can't believe this happened when you think about it. One day it was all anyone could talk about them all of a sudden one day it all just stopped I suppose since then 2021 happened but still just interesting to come back and remind myself this actually happened

@palmermonsen9098 2 года назад

Ngl I think this is one of the best examples of bending the rules I have ever heard, super clever one the part of the prancing horses

@jsquared1013 2 года назад

This is not "bending the rules" by any stretch. It is blatant cheating. The fuel flow limit is explicit in the regulations. They developed a mechanism whose entire point was to _evade detection_ that they were breaking the regulation. They did not "bend" anything or find any "loopholes". It's an impressive engineering feat, but entirely unsportsmanlike cheating (a la Toyota WRC turbo restrictor).

@joe5boost 2 года назад

They all cheat its only the ones that get caught we hear about , great vid thanks for sharing

@bjarulez 2 года назад

Neeeeee woop, said it better than I can come up with!

@fourutubez7294 2 года назад

Will you be doing Mercedes' magic improvements towards the end of 2021? I've not seen anything other than fanboy/hater rants on the subject.

@robh9577 2 года назад

The engines are frozen as part of the rules. The only time you are allowed to change a part is under "reliability" grounds. Bottas had 4 engines changed due to "reliability concerns" which was code for "we are running them at the maximum output and hurting them on purpose to find reasons to change parts to give Lewis a maximum output engine for the final few races" But it's a rules grey area that F1 has not closed. 1st engine is a 10 place grid drop and any other after that is only a 5 place. It's an open invitation for abuse, the grid drops should become more and more severe the more engines you take.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

Mercedes’ figured out how to 1. Get the cars setup window to work properly with the new floor rules and B. Figured a way to run the engine at warp 10 for exactly 4 races.

@elmurcis1 2 года назад

Correct me if wrong but wasn't their "Fine" to run 2020 season with 95% of fuel limit vs others. Pain of their speed was harsh enough so kind of "fair and seal deal" already (as long as there is nothing else... not yet discovered).

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

Plus the 50 grand fine for Abu Dhabi.

@peterthomas5792 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward 50 grand doesn't even qualify as pocket money. McLaren were fined 100 million and had all constructors points deleted for being in possession of a document that a Ferrari employee had given then, and there was no proof that they'd made any use of. There was absolute proof that Ferrari had benefitted from their cheating (despite FIA claims to the contrary). No proof that McLaren had benefitted from being in possession of Ferrari documentation.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

@@peterthomas5792 that 100m was “ten million for the offence, and 90m because Dennis is a c**t”

@peterthomas5792 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward Maybe, and I appreciate the conflict between running an informative channel & posting witty comments to it. A step too far perhaps?

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

@@peterthomas5792 Mosley’s words, not mine.

@heliumtrophy 2 года назад

Part of me thought it was genius, I have to admit but with all this comes one thing as you pointed out - other teams whingeing because they didn't think of it themselves because that's all it ever is - and the insufferability of reading people in F1 groups argue about it without showing how biased they were. In the end, it's all stupid politicking and you can never truly enjoy a race because there's going to be someone complaining and the spectacle more often than not gets tainted in some way or another. Makes you question the term "clean racing" (I know what's meant by it but there's so many implications that complicate it).

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

It’s a fine line to tread. If it doesn’t specifically state in the rules you can’t do it (double diffuser, f duct, DAS, fan car etc) then I say it’s fair game. But when the rule book specifically tells you not to do it and a team is knowingly taking the piss with it, then I’d say the other teams are in the right to protest. It’s not so much “we didn’t think of that first so ban it”, it’s more “we’re obeying the rules, the one that tells us not to do it. Why are they allowed to carry on?”

@heliumtrophy 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward This is also true but I'm probably more tired of hearing teams whinge any chance they get - they're quite good at it! I don't know if there's ever quite the right balance with F1 or motorsport really because of a multitude of things. I mean even back in the Hakkinen/Schumacher era, my dad was thinking that the whole thing was rigged with the amount of politicking going on about this or that thing being banned....I haven't got back to him on the Abu Dhabi debacle yet.

@gemberkoekje 2 года назад

The other, or maybe together with this narrative, story I heard was that the pipe after the fuel flow meter was somewhat expandable. So they could 'store' some extra fuel in this pipe to use.

@fourutubez7294 2 года назад

Any source for that ? It does sound interesting .

@gemberkoekje 2 года назад

@@fourutubez7294 I'll link it if I find it. Mightve been speculation, e.g. on the Dutch TV, as most of the articles seem to focus on the aliasing of the fuel flow meter.

@mrdraw2087 2 года назад

That was in the early races of 2015.

@peterthomas5792 2 года назад

That was shut down, but I forget how - possible by the extra fuel meter introduced after that pipe?

@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 года назад

Don't have a discord and I recall you saying if you want to put forward any suggestions for videos out there to use your discord. The suggestion I was going to make was on the conspiracy of Fernando Alonso being shocked by his car during pre season practice in Spain. Definitely something interesting and odd happened there. Would be cool to hear your take on it.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

I do mention discord at the end of the video.

@insertgenericusernamehere2402 2 года назад

@@AidanMillwardahh yes, I'm too stupid to understand how to work it and still haven't got an account.

@sarahpoisel6734 2 года назад

Don’t tell the spicy Mercedes engine was total spec. Seems like history repeating itself

@Olivyay 2 года назад

It's realistic that it was total spec. Those engines have a lot of untapped potential that isn't used because they have to last many races. If you plan to run them for fewer races you can push them harder. That has been the case ever since they started increasing the amount of races each engine has to do since the early 00s, even the V10s lost actual power the first time they switched from unlimited to 1 full weekend and then from 1 to 2 GP weekends per engine.

@nekozabuza 2 года назад

Secret agreement bewtween the FIA and Ferrari? Sounds like Ferrari International Assistance is still around to me.

@millzyboy500 2 года назад

Really enjoyed this one . The battery debate is one my son and I talk about a lot

@TheBrass18 2 года назад

Yes, ppl seem to forgot that Ferrari had a motor that was in the grey area too in 2018, they were doing something with the battery, it had unreal acceleration out of slow corners, best seen in monza.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

The magic speed boost at Canada was mental to watch. Vettel’s car was visually pulling a gap on Hamilton’s.

@jaybower1320 7 месяцев назад

The fuel-flow, sensor trick is hands down my favorite dodgy F1 tech story. Absolutely genius

@todortodorov940 2 года назад

My opinion: Ferrari should do whatever it takes to win, as long as it is not explicitly defined as illegal in the rulebook. This is racing. Other teams use creative solutions too.

@beefsuprem0241 2 года назад

Well it added a little excitement between mercs processions to the title. Also thought it was quite funny when vettel lost it at Baku and yeeted into Hamilton.

@pibil8052 2 года назад

all of the teams look for loopholes.

@sanfordcurtis8242 2 года назад

Had it been a team that wasn’t a front runner, people would praise them for innovation and say that they’d found a loophole.

@jeremybenassi5014 2 года назад

@@sanfordcurtis8242 Like Brawn GP

@jsquared1013 2 года назад

It wasn't a "loophole", it was blatant cheating. The regulations specify the fuel flow limit, in black and white without any ambiguity. Ferrari developed this system to _evade detection_ that they were breaking the rules. Totally different.

@Thatguy1705 2 года назад

Anyone else remember all the smoke that the 2018 Ferrari used to spit out aswell? Same with Torro Rosso at the end of 2017.

@Avto28 21 день назад

I love how the video conveniently glances over the 2017 oil burning debacle and Spa/Monza engine specification story. As well as persists with the 2021 "spicy engine" theory, when any person who has ever worked on an internal combustion engine would know most of the top end power limitation these days comes from the fuel flow limit and not the overall reliability of the unit.

@alexhndr 2 года назад

It may not be the modern Option 13 But boi, do the "Spicy Ferrari" stir some pots

@shadowguy128 2 года назад

7:35 I believe they ran it at only Brazil, Jeddah and Yas Marina because Qatar was Budapest but without the 180 turns into 180 turns

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

They only ran it at Brazil 🤣

@shadowguy128 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward lol

@that.guy11 2 года назад

If I remember rightly, the fuel sensor was timed to measure fuel flow every hundredth of a second, and Ferrari had worked out a way of squirting in extra fuel in tiny pulses in between measurements so it was un-detectable. Also I fully, fully believe that if Mercedes or Honda had come up with it, the response/ public narrative would have been "that's technically against the regulations, if you stop doing it then no punishment necessary. Well done for being so clever and finding a loophole though, we're closing it for next season." But because Ferrari did it the response was "dirty cheats who deserve to be punished."

@elianioriofarrell 2 года назад

Spot on

@HeavyMetalGamingHD 2 года назад

the problem is, that this is just a theory. There was never official clarification, what ferrari actually did. And that sucks

@MsZeeZed 2 года назад

It feels like deliberately cutting the track. The rule about fuel flow was unambiguous. There was a deliberate intent to breach the regulation and the “clever” bit of engineering was only in devising a way not to be caught. That’s why it stinks.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

I doubt Mercedes and Red Bull would have been so blatantly obvious about it. They’d increase it little by little while Ferrari turned it up to 11 straight away 🤣 But the thing is, if it had been red bull or Merc doing it, Ferrari fans would be screaming filthy chats to them.

@kimschroder9354 2 года назад

I don't get, why they didn't just slap on some more wing so that their advantage wasn't on the straights but in the corner. That way, nobody would suspect the engine, but say the have better aero or a clever suspension. But no, they had to dump it all on the straight because "aerodynamics is for people who can't build engines, mamma mia!!"

@bertjilk3456 2 года назад

F1 is as much about who can be sneakiest and get away with it, as it is about racing cars. But, that’s part of the intrigue. I suspect the damage to Ferrari’s name/brand by being publicly named ‘cheats’ was unacceptable, so it happened behind closed doors. It’s all fun and games until a huge brand takes a public beating. I expect they would do the same for other teams as well (especially Merc or Red Bull), that seems to be the direction things are going. We don’t want anyone getting hurt, do we...

@M1ggins 2 года назад

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

@jasonrushton5991 Год назад

Bloody Good One ALL With This Video, We Could All See It, As It Was Happening In Races!!!! Ahh Well, next! ;-)

@saf2sweet188 2 года назад

Online class? NAhhhhh New Aidan video? Hell ya

@robertharrington703 2 года назад

Glad I ain't the only one 😅

@F-Man 2 года назад

School’s a waste anyway - watching Aidan is a far better use of your time.

@connortremmel 2 года назад

True

@johnfitsch7781 2 года назад

I kind of suspected that Haas’s dramatic drop in performance had something to do with the fact that they were probably doing what Ferarri was doing, being a Ferrari 2.0 car and all.

@T_Mo271 2 года назад

Indeed.

@formula2tom225 2 года назад

ferrari probably gave all the old 2020 engines to HAAS on the cheap in 2021....

@subarnosinha8042 2 года назад

Haas' drop is also due to their rubbish rear suspension which changes its behaviour with change in temperature. This has been a problem as early since 2019, if RoGro and KMag can be believed.

@A.i.r_K 2 года назад

@@subarnosinha8042 both are experienced drivers and have proved to be, at least, decent drivers. Romain was one of the few drivers who could challenge the pretty much invincible Seb and RB combo, and mag got a podium with McLaren on his first race in 2014.

@jstoli996c4s 2 года назад

@@subarnosinha8042 this makes sense, since the Haas cars could do well in qualifying, but drop like rocks during the race.

@andrewsatorius4210 2 года назад

that ferrari win prediction is absolutely correct

@jonathanohagan1349 2 года назад

i love rule bending in all motor racing sports, shows who is better, lawyers/qwners or engineers/mechanics

@shauncripps7914 2 года назад

I know I'm abit late to the party but at 9:03 I literally spat out my drink! Jokes :-)

@mkcdavies 2 года назад

Interesting piece Aidan, wasn’t this the period when the Ferrari engines were very ‘smokey’? Could that indicate something else going on with the fuel and oil?

@scrubsrc4084 2 года назад

At the time we thought that maybe ferrari were using sensors that were reading low on the output

@pabloescobar1106 2 года назад

What was his first rule for the series? I didn't understand him

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

If a slow team can be boiled down to “underfunded and slow” I won’t do it.

@pabloescobar1106 2 года назад

Thanks 🙂

@photodave219 2 года назад

I know theyre cheating but damn, from an engineering viewpoint, thats just impressive. Illegal as hell under the rules but to figure out how to cheat the sensors? Thats genius. I mean... stupid because they got caught but thats just an impressive thing to pull off. And OF COURSE there's a confidential agreement.... of course.

@dirkstrickland135 2 года назад

Why even bother with those engine trickeries when a team can abuse the budget cap and replace a new ICE every 3 races to get extra juice.

@mitchellbaker6528 2 года назад

They'd have to take a hit in the budget elsewhere to make up for it. So you are complaining that Mercedes was smart about where to spend the money?

@dirkstrickland135 2 года назад

@@mitchellbaker6528 ICE replacement is completely exempted from budget cap regulations. What Mercedes does defeat the purpose of having a budget cap in the first place. There is an article about similar loopholes by Mark Hughes.

@Chrisuu 2 года назад

Yay first 2 minutes gang

@mmazz30 2 года назад

Here’s an idea...100kg of fuel, use it how you want to....but it might not get you to the end of the race. Funny how Honda say goodbye, then design a new engine that out won the mercs (wins) if you count the last 1 lap “race”

@chicobicalho5621 7 месяцев назад

Inasmuch as I like Leclerc very much, as a driver and as a person, I think that Ferrari illegal engine should have resulted in the loss of points and disclassification of both victories in Belgium and Italy for Leclerc. After all, didn't Lance Armstrong loose all his Tour de France titles for cheating in a similar manner, since, both Ferrari and Armstrong increased "engine power" by cheating, nes't-ce pas?

@duncani3095 2 года назад

Aidan, have you read how to build a car by Adrian Newey? A must read for petrol heads.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

I used the book to write the video on the Mp4 18

@duncani3095 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward a great read. For me it was such fun to see all the people who crossed paths with him during his career. And a rare window into such a brilliant man. Also learned a lot, for instance, i love the look of the late '80s, early '90s cars. Small, light and nimble. That Layton House looks particulary good to me, and surprise! It's one of his cars. 😊 Cheers mate. 👍🏼

@DAGATHire 9 месяцев назад

F1 has always been a battle of engineers vrs the Formula (the rules) So personally, i bloody love when engineers find these sneaky ways around things.

@Doggy-B 2 года назад

That Jenson pic needed the "thug life" treatment 🤣

@ElectoneGuy 2 года назад

AGS, Rial, EuroBrun, Osella, Coloni - do them, do them!

@liceface 2 года назад

Was your first remark a snipe at The-Race?

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

No snipes taken here. I get asked all the time to talk about a slow team and there’s nothing interesting to talk about beyond “they had no money and were slow”. The race are a good bunch and they helped me out when I needed it.

@liceface 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward ah ok.. not that it affects me either way😂

@philippruest5577 2 года назад

The FIA took 3 years to clamp down on Mercedes burning oil. The Ferrari engine 2018 2019 was not proven to be illegal. In Bahrain 2019 Mercedes got surprised by the Ferrari power as it was assumed the loopholes had been closed by the directives and added sensor after 2018.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

It wasn’t just Mercedes burning oil. Mercedes were able to get the most out of it, but Ferrari engined cars and Renault powered ones were at it too.

@philippruest5577 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward Merc burnt clearly more oil as the Spa upgrade 2017 and their struggle in Australia 2018 to avoid respectively cope with the tighter oil burn limits showed.

@blacktoothfox677 2 года назад

@@philippruest5577 stpp hittpng that blppdy 'p' all the tpme ya lunkerthumbs

@philippruest5577 2 года назад

@@blacktoothfox677 Huffs :)

@blacktoothfox677 2 года назад

@@philippruest5577 Nope. You still left one there in avpid and whatever that mess is there pretending to be 'respectively'... Bless ya

@midnightlexicon Год назад

I love the look of the 2019 ferrari

@frankbieser 2 года назад

About Baku 2017. Yes, Lewis never touched his brake. If you watch the TV replay where they were showing Lewis' telemetry, you see that he starts to launch, and then he lifts. With the way F1 cars take off, a lift after a launch is as good as hitting the brakes for the car behind. I find it interesting that they stopped showing telemetry on screen after that. :-/

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

It also doesn’t help that the on screen telemetry at that time shows 100% brake no matter how much is applied. It’s either full on or full off. People saw the red bar max out and went BRaKe TEsT!

@peterthomas5792 2 года назад

As I recall, the post-race investigation showed no significant variation in the behaviour of the Merc on that corner compared to previous laps?

@frankbieser 2 года назад

@@AidanMillward Yes, and thus the conversation focused on whether he hit the brakes. Nobody seemed to notice his revs ramp up, and then a sudden drop off (a lift off throttle) just before Vettel hits him.

@frankbieser 2 года назад

@@peterthomas5792 Possibly, never saw that. Only that he didn't hit the brake. But when you watch the replay of both restarts, the earlier one, Lewis launches immediately from that turn. The next time he starts to launch, but lifts and then Vettel hits him.

@frankbieser 2 года назад

@@Shane-Phillips Yes, though the claim is Lewis never touched the brake (and there's no evidence he did). It's unclear why Lewis started to accelerate then lift. Nobody asked. They just asked if he brake checked, and he said no. And the telemetry supported that. Problem is, wrong question was being asked.

@VonBlade Год назад

1:50 I don't mind that, given that they invented the TH rules to help Mercedes.

@newjerseywales 2 года назад

Do something on liveries. A your top ten, or something.

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

I actually hate those sorts of videos 🤣

@discosteve8666 2 года назад

Wonder if they ever were caught red-handed using a radio/magnetic interference device to influence the signals carried on officially certified wiring harness...

@dansmith6909 2 года назад

Thanks Aidan pal

@nicholastotoro7721 2 года назад

Because the FIA has never changed the rules to reign-in Ferrari...

@gdogg3710 2 года назад

“Matteo, why has that hybrid got 12 cylinders???”

@dumptrump3788 Месяц назад

When it comes to cheating you can score it by how many "Schumachers" it deserves. IMO this one is a 4 Schumachers on a scale of 1 Schumacher (being the least) to 10 Schumachers (being the worst, such as "I'm ramming the competition off the road/I'm just gonna park in front of the competition during qualifying" level)

@djdrastic1 2 года назад

Ferrari needs to learn to 'innovate' like Mercedes.

@GregBrownsWorldORacing 2 года назад

That Ferrari sure was fast in Canada - approximately sea level - But when they got to Mexico and the Ferrari was too fast to be true in the thinner air on the long straight...

@stevepiccinnin1157 2 года назад

This guy is hilarious

@Laurens_en_Daire 2 года назад

Personally i kinda think that fuel flow restrictions are silly in racing. Fuel weighs the car down, and so you have to carry more if you plan on burning more. There is so little to compete in when the engine type and even the fuel flow amount is regulated to be exactly same for everyone. Granted we fans won't really even realize how much or how little freedom the teams have been given for the new reqs before the car reveals start happening, but I fear F1 is slowly becoming more of stock racing sport, all as a result of trying to give the fans a fairer competition to watch.

@peterthomas5792 2 года назад

Yep. If you think cars are using too much fuel, just cut down the amount of fuel they have for the race - job done. Who cares if they have 50bhp advantage on the straight if they have to pull over 3 laps before the chequered flag?

@jsquared1013 2 года назад

It's part of the "enviro-friendly" image-seeking that caused the whole hybridization in the first place. And it's not new, either -- IMSA Group C was a fuel-limited series back in the '80s.

@yommish 9 месяцев назад

Isn’t limiting fuel something that’s been in racing for ages? There’s always been a maximum fuel tank size since I can remember. Or are you you suggesting to only limit fuel capacity and not consumption rate? Either way you have X liters and it’s gotta last you Y laps while going as fast as possible. Restrictions are always going to limit power whether it’s displacement, compression, fuel burn, capacity, or whatever. Sure you can have no restrictions like Can-Am but then it becomes all about funding and engineering and not racing on the track.

@chineseredneck1211 Год назад

You would think Ferrari would be better at sand bagging. It's not like you can't tune the engine map to reduce the obvious advantage

@dirk6001 28 дней назад

A big reason why I stop watching the ferrari show that F1 always is and was.

@Dalejrandsr88 2 года назад

The rules are made to find all the gray areas. Everyone does it. Some just do it better

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

There’s going for a grey area (DAS, double diffuser, blown diffuser, f duct) and there’s a flat out attempt at dodging the rules. Since the rule book even prior to the 2019 US GP said dodging that sensor was against the rules, if Ferrari was doing it, then it falls into the latter.

@AGB_HDV 2 года назад

Yep

@stevewilliams7956 2 года назад

Another top-notch video. It is really good to see Ferrari's ass-hattery called out instead of it being swept under the rug. They've been holding f1 to ransom since I started following it in the mid 70s with threats to leave, veto on rules etc. Another thing I've heard from various sources is that for 2020 they were not only running a legal engine for a change but also a form of restriction for the season as punishment to embarrass them. I think this also explains part of the relative bounce back for 2021. They really haven't come that far from the Enzo days of "aero is for people who can't build engines" and referring to a lot of constructors as "assemblatore". Once the hype and emotion is stripped off they are an upper midfield team with near unlimited resources and occasional scams of being front runners when viewed over the entire history of f1. Keep up the outstanding, informative and entertaining work, and not ignoring the 800lb of elephant s**t in the lounge room.

@RaceSimCentral Год назад

I firmly believe that Vettel had a better car than Hamilton at least one season during his time there. It was really only Vettel's mistakes when under pressure that lost him a championship for them. And yeah, it might not have been legal. :) I do wonder if it would have been swept under the rug if he had won......

@CijaniD0071 2 года назад

Stuck in 2018 ?

@tedtheo7131 2 года назад

its not a bus stop, its not called a bus stop, spa hasnt had a bus stop chicane since 2005, which at this point is a long time ago.

@louisbeerreviews8964 2 года назад

Wrong is slit called bus stop chicane

@tedtheo7131 2 года назад

@@louisbeerreviews8964 not on the circuit's official website, nor any official literature. it is simply referred to as chicane now

@stephenbritton9297 2 года назад

There might be some Starfleet engineering officers who would be interested in taking up that challenge…

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

LaForge, O’Brien.

@BlueJazzBoyNZ Год назад

The FIA again being open and Transparent opps silly me This is F1 Win at all costs whichever part of the " Sport ? " arena your in..

@headsetlucky13 2 года назад

I was at montreal. There was a smell of burnt oil in the air no idea where it came from

@AidanMillward 2 года назад

All the teams were doing it at that point, could have been any one of the twenty cars on the track.

@stanislavkostarnov2157 2 года назад

originally read: "sandal brushed under the carpet" thought it would be a failed brakes story...

@blacktoothfox677 2 года назад

haha!

@dodge3048 2 года назад

Mika Salo let slip that part of Ferrari's punishment was to run with lower fuel-flow limits for 2020.

@mignik01 2 года назад

The mercedes engine "was designed to run for 3 races" excuse is bullsh*t. 1. When redbull made enough noise in Brazil and said they would protest the results if they ran the rear wing in Saudi Arabia, the advantage went away. They were still more powerful but not ridiculous and more in line with their explanation that the engine was designed to run for less races. 2. Lewis was pulling cars in from over a second away at the end of straights. You can't get a 30 kph speed delta by making an engine run harder. It has to be combined with drag reduction in a way that was at least bending the rules. 3. If they could gain that much performance advantage (i.e; overtaking people from a second back) legally, people would be swapping out engines more often. That is too much of an advantage to give up. Because it only happened for one race and redbull won eventually, this was swept under the rug just like Ferrari in 2018. I hate it when British people are biased like this.