The Science Behind Vocal Distortion: Will Ramos of Lorna Shore

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This is the most insane piece of history that I've ever been a part of. How did a professional opera singer end-up researching metal screams?!
Two years ago, Will Ramos and I met for the first time and we put a camera down his throat (full laryngoscopy). Fast forward a lot of collabs later, we met back at the University of Utah Health to conduct some of the most in-depth vocal research ever performed. As Patient Zero, Will Ramos not only reveals his innards through these comprehensive tests, he also is shaping the future of voice science.
Join professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff, as she works alongside the team at The University of Utah Health and the VAST research lab on the first ever harsh vocal research study of this kind.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro & Set-up
11:15 Acoustic Analysis
18:18 Aerodynamics and Laryngoscopy
23:34 EMG (Throat Needles)
48:34 DMRI
1:04:40 Closing Remarks
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Thank you to:
University of Utah Health Staff
Will Ramos of Lorna Shore
Amanda Stark, PhD., CCC-SLP
Ingo Titze, PhD
Marshall Smith, MD, FACS
Lynn Maxfield, PhD
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Elizabeth Zharoff is an international opera singer and voice coach, with 3 degrees in voice, opera, and music production. She's performed in 18 languages throughout major venues in Europe, America, and Asia. Currently based somewhere between Los Angeles and Tucson, Arizona, Elizabeth spends her days researching voice, singing, teaching, writing music, and recording TONS. She also plays Diablo and Dungeons & Dragons.
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@josephkratzer2218 26 дней назад

Lorna Shore now has an R&D department

@astrolopitekos 26 дней назад

Underrated comment 😂😂😂😂

@Trepanation21 25 дней назад

Hah! 😂

@Charlie_B. 25 дней назад

This comment deserves a million likes 😂😂😂😂😂

@vasekkosar3931 25 дней назад

You just might have won the internet xDD

@dtb1000 25 дней назад

this sure as hell wasn't on my 2020s bingo card

@maggiepanning356 28 дней назад

I think Will’s willingness to stick needles and cameras into his throat makes him more badass than his music, tats, cars, etc.!!

@Whoracle8531 26 дней назад

His name is Will, not Wont!

@threeofeight197 26 дней назад

Yeah imagine letting someone stick needles in your moneymaker. Don’t slip and damage those amazing vocal nerves/muscles!!! So brave for real.

@DavidBrumbeloeJr 26 дней назад

✌️😎👍

@brokengoose9831 26 дней назад

don't forget nerf guns on that list

@alexandralugosi 25 дней назад

@@Whoracle8531 its this one for me 😂 100%

@idrkginaf4204 25 дней назад

2 years from now: "WE REMOVED WILL RAMOS THROAT AND ANALIZED IT"

@kirkmccune7944 25 дней назад

Ahahahahahahahaha. FOR SCIENCE!

@itstheazorean 18 дней назад

analized...?

@My.Darkling 26 дней назад

Will needs a t-shirt: "I got stabbed in the neck by an opera singer and all I got was this epic friendship!"

@LoganDeal-cb6qn 25 дней назад

That would confuse everyone in public

@SayuriAsahina 25 дней назад

@@LoganDeal-cb6qn That would be the best part!😆

@PrestigeLiquidsWW 25 дней назад

It sounds more like the title of an awesome Isekai🤣

@LukeWeyrauch93 20 дней назад

That’s way too long to fit on a t-shirt

@sarahwilliams-curto6750 19 дней назад

"All I Got" In this instance seems, I don't even know the adjective...a friendship like they have developed is a rare thing, some temporary physical discomfort seems like a small price to pay....

@Erichwanh 28 дней назад

Typical reactor: I will bob my head and not purchase the music Elizabeth: I WILL DO SCIENCE TO YOU AND WE'LL FOREVER BE FRIENDS AFTERWARD

@taylor_drift 28 дней назад

Since the first video of the scope, when he stayed with Elizabeth and her husband...you could tell they were going to be life long friends...and I'm still waiting for a Lorna Shore ft Elizabeth Zharoff track...I can dream

@jeffk1482 27 дней назад

@@taylor_driftI’m waiting too - even though it *might* be the genesis of a reality ripping singularity.

@taylor_drift 26 дней назад

@jeffk1482 what I would love to hear is a technique switch between them...Elizabeth doing harshes and will doing operatic...or an opera duet with will still doing his harshes in place of operatic...Holy potato

@jeffk1482 26 дней назад

@@taylor_drift I had the same general idea!

@joergojschaefer3521 26 дней назад

@@taylor_drift Phantom of the Opera!!!

@MasterOfFudge 25 дней назад

Hearing scientists say "the moose" and "the goblin" about his screams was hilarious

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

I mean, that's how Will identifies them. So on all the worksheets we put together, those were the classifications. We look forward to creating a glossary once we get more artists that have very distinct sounds with names attributed to them.

@sirkat344 25 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice Nice! I like it. True to form, "We did something here. Ok, what's next? Onward!"- Elizabeth 🥳🤓🤔

@MrsSankta 22 дня назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice if this work is published please give it a nice little reference title

@tylerspeiv2575 21 день назад

More artist??? Please do go on

@gabrielbarreto4178 19 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoiceas a researcher myself, I'm really happy to see something like this. All of it.

@2Young2FeelThisOld 26 дней назад

Not one bit surprised that Will tested his clean singing with a Sleep Token song 😂

@attila0323 26 дней назад

When I was at that part: "of course it has to be a Sleep Token song".

@Kelly30stm 26 дней назад

Not surprised at all!

@CapitalMforMotivated 26 дней назад

Was such an endearing moment. I was laughing thinking aww it's his comfort blanket

@crisscrossam 22 дня назад

I hope Vessel & co watch this video

@krimsonsky00 21 день назад

Same lolol

@vvuorinen3 26 дней назад

That MRI scan would make a great album cover

@clark5363 28 дней назад

Elizabeth is actually the most metal of us all- CONFIRMED

@TheCharismaticVoice 27 дней назад

Hahaha, I don't know about that.

@clark5363 27 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice as you're giddy with excitement about stabbing our dear william through the neck. A likely story. This could be an episode of Metalocalypse with a few lighting edits.😘

@threeofeight197 26 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice Will wins the most metal award for letting you do this! What a good sport. 🤘🤘🤘

@LoganDeal-cb6qn 25 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice if you want to do this with other harsh vocalists in the future I have a few suggestions. Tatiana from Jinjer could be cool because of how she is able to do such low powerful growls while being a woman. Tom barber could be cool also since he has very identifiable vocals he may have a different technique

@lil-link 24 дня назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice Surely, your love for the "mechanics" behind the vocal techniques is beyond everyone else - much love!

@Eyks001 28 дней назад

Now "To the Hellfire" plays in my head... "Can you feel it? These pins and needles"😁

@Dude_Guyman 25 дней назад

If he openly weeps during that part from now on, I will understand.

@thomasdahl3214 25 дней назад

I feel you!! I am not sure how many times I thought about it myself but it is not few😂

@Asher_Motionless570 23 дня назад

Genius.

@Susanna.Di.Stefano 21 день назад

He took this sentence personally... 🤣

@leak3690 25 дней назад

The fact that his brain shut actions down as soon as they got too uncomfortable is a testament to how finely tuned Will has trained his voice to be. He was trying but he knew his limits and stopped to preserve his instrument.

@narcissus79 23 дня назад

it's pain avoidance.. we get the same thing on a macro level in Sports Science!

@crisscrossam 22 дня назад

I'm still learning to do that honestly. I didn't think it would be as difficult as it is to just... stop. When something is uncomfortable or hurts. I thought i was doing it right but now i'm not just refining my technique with a coach but also kind of relearing to do it all over again but properly, and my coach is the one actually pushing me to stay safe and disciplined with my vocals to prevent (further) injury. These voxals are definitely not as easy as one might think.

@finnskellix2977 25 дней назад

The Reassurance at 42:02 you could see it in Wills face and eyes that it helped him relax and calm down. It's just a really sweet moment i had to point out because its important to understand that he was probably a little stressed understandably so

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Dr. Stark has an incredible way about her. I think it's also because of the rapport over the last two years of all working together that he trusts her completely.

@TacticalPecans 26 дней назад

Never in my life did I expect to see metal vocalizations become a scientific pursuit like this. I'm completely enthralled by the concept of "primal" vocalization and what we might be able to learn about screaming through biological and evolutionary perspectives. I'm also eager to peer into the throats of other metal vocalists to see how they contort and engage their muscles and the impact it has on their sound and vocal capabilities. Amazing work Will, Elizabeth, and the entire UofU team!

@ckiemnstr345 26 дней назад

I would love to see inside Randy Blythe's vocal tract. He's been doing it as long or longer than most so it would be interesting to see what his vocal tract looks like now.

@KornyRock 25 дней назад

Well I can say one thing. I've seen a lot of laryngoscopys and most vocalist do not contort their throat in the way will does, even when producing very similar sounds. There's a lot of naivety in the way this is handled in my personal opinion. I hope we do see more of these though.

@rennac9666 25 дней назад

@@KornyRock Idk man calling it naive is pretty insane considering the people involved with this study. I'm sure they know what they're doing and have probably seen more laryngoscopys than either of us.

@KornyRock 25 дней назад

@@rennac9666 I'm not hating, it's just they use terms like vocal fry to describe the screams, which you can see in this video even that vocal fry plays 0 part in a fry scream. I'm unsure of the credentials of those involved and the study is also not yet complete. You also have to consider this this is just one video, and it is possible for people not to tell the entire truth or spin things a certain way.

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

If you're suggesting that Dr. Ingo Titze does not have the credentials necessary to assess or comment on what was occurring during these tests, I would highly reconsider researching who he is.

@niclasvestman 28 дней назад

Huge respect to Will Ramos for volunteering and making himself available for research. Really taking a big one for the team and helping furthering the science on vocal function. So a sincere thanks to you mr Ramos🙏. You rock 😎🤘... Obviously! 😆👍

@TheMidgardViking 25 дней назад

I think all the doctors, Elizabeth, and Kirk should now go to a Lorna Shore concert together and film their reactions. I would love to see them rock out for science!

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

I'd be totally down for that!

@Panda_Biscuits 25 дней назад

1. This was absolutely amazing! 2. I am not a vocalist, but have a neurological disorder that has caused me to lose my speech. I wish I had the ability to do this for science. 3. I'm 38 and lost my ability to speak 4 years ago........I won't lie I teared up in the end when Will said, "You only have one voice, once you lose it it's gone." 4. Will and Elizabeth was the collab we didn't know we needed!

@rnbsteenstar 22 дня назад

Oh my lord! I am sorry to hear that. What is the name of the disorder if that is not too much?

@davidramirezrodriguez3373 22 дня назад

Why no heart here?

@Panda_Biscuits 22 дня назад

@@rnbsteenstar I'm happy to answer questions about it. It's called Autoimmune Encephalitis, but because of my loss of speech and other functions my doctors also believe that I have Lambert-Eaton Myasthenic Syndrome

@rnbsteenstar 21 день назад

@@Panda_Biscuits OH my good God! Is there any knowledge out there about what causes those horrible things?

@Panda_Biscuits 21 день назад

@@rnbsteenstar There is some knowledge out there but not a ton. I am hopeful that science will gain a better understanding after learning more about long covid because the mechanism of long covid and the type of Autoimmune Encephalitis I have are very similar. As of right now it is mostly chalked up to bad luck and genetics. The plus side is that they don't necessarily have to have an extremely thorough understanding of what causes it in order to treat it. I have been receiving regular treatments for the past year and a half and it has improved my quality of life significantly and I am extremely grateful for that!

@user-scott-pearce 28 дней назад

I can just imagine Will after the procedure: “You know what these needles look sick, leave them in”

@l0.0kcryoxoc35 27 дней назад

lol i even read that in Wills voice!!! lol🤣🤣

@Peron1-MC 23 дня назад

or cool tattoo of the wires :)

@dizzysic2587 26 дней назад

"... Can you feel it? These pins and needles..." Into the Hellfire lyrics manifested this 😅

@quintonj7221 21 день назад

I don’t think people really grasp the concept of how monumental this research is. This is practically the first of its kind and is huge step in both medical and musical science. What a time to be alive!

@ms-rachel-anne 25 дней назад

Many people have pointed this out in other videos, but Will's golden retriever personality is so endearing and funny when contrasted with the type of music he makes and his personal style. He's a delight to watch and kept such a good attitude through the tests, even when it was clear he was super uncomfy.

@rachelhignett9473 25 дней назад

He kinda reminds me of my dog. He's a Rottie with a big scary bark, but all he does is goof around and wants anyone, everyone to play stick or ball with him. He's just a big goof and couch potato.

@ms-rachel-anne 24 дня назад

@@rachelhignett9473 please deliver pets to your good boi

@Beamer1969 26 дней назад

His music is not something i typically listen to, but the talent required and the dedication needed to allow the science to be done impresses me.

@attila0323 26 дней назад

I started to listen Lorna Shore like half a year from now, and still the only deathcore band that I'm listening to...but I listen to them almost every day. I just love Will's vocals and the melody of the songs.

@k4boom3rr10 24 дня назад

@@attila0323 Deathcore*

@attila0323 24 дня назад

@@k4boom3rr10 I remembered this morning I might wrote the wrong genre, thank you! I'll edit it. Actually I listen a lot of metalcore. :)

@joshfayne3591 25 дней назад

I have to say as someone who has been listening to this kind of music for 20+ years and being told by friends, family or anyone who finds out I listen to this music say "oh the screamers? There is no talent. It's just noise." Seeing people taking the time, energy and resources to put science behind primal vocals. Yes I'm using that now lol. It brought me so much joy I was tearing up. I can't wait for this to be in a written research document. This is so great. I hope you convince more vocalists to take part in this research like Dani Filth, Alex Terrible, Kyle from Brand of Sacrifice and Bryan Garris from Knocked Loose. Angela Gossow wrote theory articles about how she did her growls but it musty focused on how she used her diaphragm. So it is exciting that we are doing the theory about how to us your vocal chords, tongue and head space added on to how we know how to use breath control, posture and diaphragm. I'm so excited for this. Like I said I have been listening to this type of music for 20+ years and it makes me so happy that science is now backing what my ears and heart have been hearing.

@aydrazx 25 дней назад

If they do with Alex Terrible they'll found out there's a portal of hell in his throat.

@DaddyKhaos 20 дней назад

MRI shows....Lucifer?

@valeriadibenedetto6622 26 дней назад

As a PhD student in Experimental Medicine and a metalhead, this is THE BEST VIDEO EVER! It was so amazing and interesting, you made history! Metal AF! Thank you for sharing all this, from a scientific point of view it is extremely interesting and my mind right now is literally exploding! Will you really are a unicorn and Elizabeth you are metal af! 🤘❤ Love from Italy!

@sephiroth3776 28 дней назад

I love that you are besties with Will Ramos now.

@TakeAHikeMike 28 дней назад

Rumor has it their actually siblings.

@user-dq1gu7kr8c 28 дней назад

I don't think they are cause,will has hispanic roots while Elisabeth has slavic as i know

@TheGoobingGoose 28 дней назад

@@TakeAHikeMike no cause will is 100% Puerto rican:)

@TheCharismaticVoice 27 дней назад

We might be siblings.

@TheGoobingGoose 27 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice WHAT!?

@jwr6796 28 дней назад

Can you imagine every tea time interview ending with, "can I stick needles in your throat?" and now we've finally got the one that said yes?

@xxpoisonblxx 28 дней назад

I mean, Will's been all-in on the science since he crossed paths with Elizabeth. I really hope they've been able to consistently drag others into the pipeline for it. As amazing as the data Will's contributed has been, there's a *lot* to be learned from comparing and contrasting with others. If the only example of a building you ever saw was the leaning tower of Pisa, you might never realize that it was an anomaly. With Will being the baseline, more data's needed to find out if his techniques/methods/ability are consistent examples or anomalies. His eagerness to help find that out, and just general tendency to be an awesome person *are* a bit of an anomaly themselves, so it's hard to tell.

@JeffSparrow87 20 дней назад

About that. I have not seen a tea time video for a while. Is there some works in the making?

@Photonkannon 26 дней назад

This will go down in history as the most extensive deep dive into screams. Thanks for making our passion more than just a bunch of outcasts making noise. You all are awesome. Thank you!

@treble8921 23 дня назад

I hope not! I hope this is only the start of a new wave of science. 😊

@DTredecim 24 дня назад

"Primal Vocalization" is the most metal thing I've ever heard.

@melomaniac334 26 дней назад

Will subjecting himself to needles while being filmed FOR SCIENCE is the MOST METAL THING EVER!! 🤘🏻🔥 What a fascinating study! Will has given us all such a gift in offering up his unique talents for study. Allowing vocal experts in-depth insight into his distinctive vocal techniques in this extreme way will permit so many people to learn from him for years to come. Watching this actually made me uncomfortable for Will - I didn’t realize he would have pain with the needles in his muscles. I’m truly in awe of his ability to work through that and make the vocalizations anyway. Thank you, Elizabeth, for recognizing the interest in this to the public and making this video available to all of us, that we might learn from this valuable research and also be entertained by this hilarious man!

@jacobsternig3580 14 дней назад

Technically he is more metal than almost all vocalist. How many vocalist have actual metal in their vocal muscles when they scream. Will Ramos does!!! 😝

@evasl 26 дней назад

How to make every person go through the credits: Will doing what he does best.

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Our video editors spent a little time on those credits. I'm glad that time didn't go to waste!

@Nefville 25 дней назад

His vocals in the credits are insane. He must have gone through just about every scream he has. I've been listening to metal for 25 years and that is probably the most metal thing I've ever heard.

@ethanbrinkman3401 25 дней назад

I can never not listen to a chelsea grin song...please try and do a tom barber vocal analysis

@dodi-wankenobi 22 дня назад

This was fr the glaced premium über-cherry on top!

@attila0323 26 дней назад

This video came out on Will's 30th birthday is probably not a coincidence. What a legend!

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Total coincidence, and a great one at that. We're presenting the first manuscript written off the data from these tests today (June 1st) and his birthday was the Friday before that presentation - so it all aligned!

@thelonewolf7443 16 дней назад

Funny someone mentioned that, Will Ramos was born May 31st, 1994 I actually was born on June 1st, 1994 Easily my favorite Deathcore vocalist + his cleans in singing is so beautiful. Love the content, it was really fun & learning this. Kinda like a modern version of a Bill Nye the Science Guy episode!

@mattdangerg 23 дня назад

As both a death metal vocalist and a neurophysiologist, this is pure gold! Incredible!

@threeofeight197 26 дней назад

It’s so metal of him to let y’all do this to him! I’m a 90s metalhead but I’ll have to check this dude out!!! 🤘🤘🤘

@tehgurl 26 дней назад

He's so fawking talented.

@jasonnielsen5976 26 дней назад

Can I recommend The Pain Remains Trilogy as a good starting point. There's a significant argument for To The Hellfire, and it wouldn't be a bad place to start, but The Pain Remains is an emotional masterpiece.

@sirkat344 26 дней назад

This is why I support this channel via Patreon. I've seen no other creator put so much into his/her/their channel and passions. Will is a real trouper- going into a myriad of tests like this. I am serious when I think this should get on PBS nationwide. Where do I start to make it happen? Incredibly well done and fascinating as can be. Bravo to ALL who were a part of this production. Well worth it.

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Thank you, Andrew. Truly. Your support is what makes things like this happen!

@sirkat344 25 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice Most Welcome! I mean every word of it. 🥰 No one educates their audience like TCV.

@manondereeper 26 дней назад

This is like a full on documentary! Fantastic work. Thank you so much for taking all of us on this journey, and thanks to Will for going through this FOR SCIENCE. I was definitely cringing when he was so clearly uncomfortable with the needles in his neck. Kudos. This was so interesting!

@Patterner 26 дней назад

it is definitely a documentary and it deserves prizes

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Thank you, Manon!!!

@psypsy751 23 дня назад

This continuous collaboration with Will is one of the best crossovers in the history of RU-vid.

@yasinmuzak3717 28 дней назад

Hell yes!!!! I really hope you get to do this with more vocalists!

@TheCharismaticVoice 27 дней назад

We're planning to do 10 more!

@annedspuds3817 26 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice I’d be so keen to see Courtney Laplante’s vocals, if she is willing to of course

@straygoat4366 26 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice 😲

@kevos823 26 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoiceI'm guessing Phil Freeman is going next?

@SCHROTTI_06 26 дней назад

Dickie allen would be awesome for this.

@acools07 25 дней назад

LOL, "I was worried about the needles," said the man with an incredible number of tatoos😂

@NumaNoom149 21 день назад

Tattoos are so much more different, plus they don’t go as deep. I’m not a fan of needles either, but a tattoo is a totally different experience.

@acools07 20 дней назад

@NumaNoom149 I totally understand it, but at the moment, I found it humorous. If I were him, I would be concerned if there were a risk, it could do some nerve or muscle dammage and change the voice.

@michaelhorney1126 25 дней назад

Will. You made history brother. For all us fellow screamer vocalist out there. I appreciate you

@Nitryl44 26 дней назад

Some haters love to spit on reaction channels without understanding what these channels bring to us. Again, Elizabeth is the proof that we can learn a lot about music, and how sounds are produced by humans ! Thanks for all of theses interviews, researches, and explanations Elizabeth !

@attila0323 26 дней назад

Elizabeth's channel is the first reaction channel that I started to follow, she can explain stuff very well.

@folik213 26 дней назад

@attila0323 So far I have only found 2 that I like. Elizabeth's, and Kardavox Academy's

@KornyRock 25 дней назад

We already knew how these sounds were made for the most part. It's been available knowledge for almost 10 years.

@sirkat344 25 дней назад

Indeed! Spot on response.

@Verulen22 24 дня назад

@@folik213check out the Fairy voice mother, she is another reactor that goes deep in explanation and went on to meet and work with beatboxers. 90% of reactors are just nobodies that make idiotic faces, but the good ones are great.

@TheGoobingGoose 28 дней назад

Will is definitely one of my favorite people in the entire world!! He’s the human version of a golden retriever puppy!!!

@tattooed1979 26 дней назад

😂

@Patterner 26 дней назад

with a touch of Husky 😂💙

@TheGoobingGoose 26 дней назад

@@Patterner yeah😭

@klarajagodic1386 26 дней назад

@@Patterner❤😂

@paragonca9736 23 дня назад

From hell!

@bndncn 26 дней назад

This is so fucking sick dude. edit: the part with the needles was horrific but also fascinating. Huge props to Will for going through it for SCIENCE.

@jacksplague3050 26 дней назад

This research is actually invaluable. Understanding the vocal tract to the degree of depth that the data from these tests have provided could help so many people. This could help vocalists mitigate the risk of hurting themselves through scientifically backed coaching, provide insight for more advanced vocal reconstructive surgeries for people with vocal cord disorders, and possibly even be a stepping stone towards vocal modification surgeries that allow people to change aspects of their vocal range in the distant future.

@daniellealongi6084 25 дней назад

I love Will and Lorna Shore. As a metal head I’m so glad metal vocalists are getting the credit they deserve. This kind of stuff takes talent and I love that Will is getting recognized for that and putting metal vocalists on the map. Happy birthday Will!

@sludgyp3196 26 дней назад

Hi Elizabeth! Have you ever considered a tea time interview with Melissa Cross? She has worked with many different well known vocalist from the metal scene. Also she is the one who originally made up the terms "fry" and "false cord screaming" so it would be really interesting.

@Trepanation21 25 дней назад

That is a brilliant idea for what could be a brilliant conversation. Melissa Cross has made so many contributions to the metal scene, it would be wonderful to see her shared with such an interested audience!

@Monixa7 14 дней назад

so amazing idea. i hope it will be happenin' 🙏🙏🙏 fingers crossed

@sw_elian 26 дней назад

Happy birthday to this incredible man and vocalist Will Ramos, and thank you soo much for this video Elizabeth!

@endar2401 16 дней назад

FANTASTIC sequel. This is awesome to be witnessing. Thank you so much to all involved. Hope to see more research and science, and the papers that come out of this.

@user-re7cu3lm5y 26 дней назад

TRAVIS👏🏻RYAN👏🏻OF👏🏻CATTLE👏🏻DECAP👏🏻NEED👏🏻TO👏🏻DO👏🏻THIS👏🏻HES👏🏻THE👏🏻BEST!!! He even does this sound where it sounds like two different voices AT ONCE!!!

@GabiBrooks 26 дней назад

Polyphonic singing?

@codename495 26 дней назад

Overtones or Polyphonic singing?

@Kelly30stm 22 дня назад

Are we nominating people? Can we add Tom Barber to the list? I'd love to see Elizabeth react to Tom too.

@brigittasommer9064 26 дней назад

Once upon a time...in a Teatime Interview. .and here we are ❤ amazing. Love it.❤❤❤

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

So crazy how this has happened!

@haaaylay 26 дней назад

This was literally the coolest thing ever. Will is inexplicably talented. Like those layers to those screams 🤯🤯🤯

@ohaiijessiee 26 дней назад

Will is so incredibly talented, but also so brave for having needles poked in his throat. What a bad ass!

@roganselph7812 22 дня назад

Words can't describe how dope the term "Primal Vocals" is. Sounds way cooler than "harsh vocals" imo.

@Robert_Herring 26 дней назад

Elizabeth, you have made such a difference today (again). Thank you to you, Kirk, and the entire team of specialists. Will Ramos, you are a legend. Proud to be a Patron of both of y'all.

@yuriyuriyuriyuri5002 26 дней назад

I think vocal pedagogy's focus on only the function of the folds themselves has always been very very short-sighted. The folds don't make you sound like you, they aren't the be-all-end-all, and these videos are actually breaking people's common assumptions finally. I love this so much

@KornyRock 25 дней назад

Its been known for a while that the false folds, arytenoids, areyeppiglottic folds and other cartilage and tissues affect your sound and are used in screams

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Yes @KornyRock, but very little research has been done on those structures. Tools and instrumentation is now becoming sufficient enough to start doing this type of research, but getting highly qualified individuals like Will has been very difficult.

@KornyRock 25 дней назад

@TheCharismaticVoice I'd love to see this with more extreme vocalists, there's a lot of people with a very interesting sound, it would be interesting to see your take on how the actual mechanisms of each scream differs from what you've seen here.

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

I agree 100%. The next phase which we'll reveal in the next couple months will be with 5-10 more artists, some of which do vocalizations similar to Will, and some that do very different distortions. We want a full catalogue across the board.

@Bobbias 25 дней назад

@@TheCharismaticVoicethank you for this project, that's wonderful news.

@lespaul36 21 день назад

Bro down for science, I love it. This is the dude that many say I don't want around my kid, and I am like I need more Wills in my kids' lives. Experience has been that harsh vocalist and really heavy musicians have been some of the best people I ever met.

@baelorn519 26 дней назад

I cannot express how cool it has been to watch this channel evolve to doing actual science to help understand how some people, like Will Ramos, can do the amazing things they do

@TheFlagnard2 26 дней назад

It's so excited to be witnessing a new topic of scientific exploration. Thank you for seeking out this new understanding of harsh vocals and sharing it with the world! Also, "the demon" himself wearing a "Cat Dad" hat killed me.

@paulriddle7818 26 дней назад

He loves his furballs.

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

He missed his cats the entire trip. It's so endearing!

@Kelly30stm 22 дня назад

@@TheCharismaticVoice Dusti and Bobbi are the cutest! I love all cats too. ♥️

@thomasdahl3214 27 дней назад

It tells me so much about Will when he are so interested in finding out and learning more about his voice. I really just hope you guys don’t push it to far so he get injured and somethings changes in his throat. We can not afford that! However, the last video you made going down the throat so we all could learn how his voice and sounds is being created was in my head award winning. I have no idea how many people I sent that video to. So I am really looking forward to this one. My birthday is on saturday so I see this video coming up as your birthday present to me. So THANK YOU so much! It was def. on my wishing list. I love your channel, Elizabeth, and Thank you for showing the world what a loveable person both you and Will are❤

@kirkmccune7944 27 дней назад

All of these tests are being performed by the top vocal research team in the world. We would never put Will or any artist in harms way.

@dragontears4me989 26 дней назад

100% not worried. These are top medical pros

@boogietowngaming3707 26 дней назад

As someone who has been practicing harsh vocals for almost 2 years now this is so helpful to people like me so we can see the mechanics and learn to use it all or isolate it. Thank you awesome people for this! You’re all the best.

@TheRealTomLauda 25 дней назад

Will is a freaking legend, period. Being willing to go through these uncomfortable procedures, for science, is soooo freaking cool ! You're both legends, now !

@shanesmith6124 26 дней назад

I’m so excited for this. Thank you for sharing not only your love and passion for music, but also the hard work to push our collective understanding of the voice and music further.

@Heavymetalthunda3 28 дней назад

I remember when they did the first video, the doctor made a joke about sticking a needle in his throat and he giggled and said he would never. Something about the fact that he ended up doing it makes me laugh, although it doesn’t surprise me at all 😂

@redlinedexperience3154 17 дней назад

Will is such a trooper. He has gone above and beyond what, I believe, most people, let alone performing artists, would go through for the sake of science.

@GoatGodBaal 24 дня назад

Props to Will for wanting to do this extensive of a study. He's gonna be studied for years in the vocalization field for years to come. That really makes me smile because he deserves to be remembered. Thank you Elizabeth for this amazing video! I hope to see more videos of you and Will together

@aaronscott506 26 дней назад

I would love to see you do this Elizabeth. Would be great to compare to Wills harsh vocals

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

I was just getting over my first bout of covid when we filmed this. I was supposed to, but I wasn't healthy enough to do the tests. I will next time, however!

@kevos823 26 дней назад

Thank you to Will, Elizabeth, Kirk and everyone else involved in making this happen. Will is the most metal of metal!

@ASOA_STRENGTH 19 дней назад

I love metal. I'm on the fence about LS but, there's no denying Will has serious f**king talent. This is amazing work you're all doing!

@LakeVermilionDreams 26 дней назад

I'm so glad the scientists get more camera time and focus this time around!! STEM is sexy, and those scientists are heroes!! Thank you, Elizabeth!

@bl0odm1st7 28 дней назад

The saga continues!

@TheCharismaticVoice 27 дней назад

I just need some scrolling Star Wars script!

@martinboso9819 26 дней назад

Congrats to Elizabeth for coordinating this, really interesting and well done. Really well structured and edited, feels like it is a video science paper. Super interesting and well accomplished for everyone, fascinating stuff from Will and the Utah scientists.

@myrkrinu 26 дней назад

Only Elizabeth could come up with actual dissection of harsh vocals 😁 Congratulations to everyone involved, especially to Will for being so brave. It was certainly a huge day for science. Thank you for sharing that beautiful research with us, it was extraordinary!

@NicholasB40 25 дней назад

This was beyond groundbreaking. I am so speechless and I can’t wait to see the data and the findings that come from it. Thank you so much for doing this.

@StevenTyree-sl2nx 28 дней назад

This will be good. I sincerely hope the outro music will be Thomas Dolby's hit, "She Blinded Me with Science".

@kirkmccune7944 28 дней назад

That’s our analysis for Monday!

@jaycebechtol8448 16 дней назад

I'm not even a huge fan of metal but this dude is so so bad ass for volunteering to do this. Like gooooods damn.

@SayuriAsahina 25 дней назад

This should be on PBS as a NOVA special. Amazing work from everyone - thank you so much for taking us on this journey!

@SonicImmersion_ 23 дня назад

Agreed

@ZeepDr 26 дней назад

If this results in a journal publication, we would love to know!!

@kirkmccune7944 26 дней назад

5. There are 5 manuscripts being written on the data, with another 2 possibles. First manuscript comes out in 2 weeks on the acoustical analysis.

@ZeepDr 26 дней назад

@@kirkmccune7944 ...this was said in the video huh? Gosh I wish I could retain 100% of the information I consume lol. But good to know! Thanks for the reply! I'll see if I can access that journal through my library.

@andrewsalyer5340 25 дней назад

It always makes my heart happy seeing will and elizabeth just being friends. Good people with a common passion.

@metalmikenz 25 дней назад

What an absolute champion Will. Good on you for going through all the anxiety and discomfort. What a gem of a person. Will be really interesting to see what comes of this research, especially as the MRI models are put together!

@BeebZ_SqueeZ 26 дней назад

Of course a Sleep Token song would make its way into a Will video 😂 happy birthday will! Great video Elizabeth and gang 🎉

@Hoganply 26 дней назад

This was extremely fascinating, and excellently produced. Kudos to everybody, seriously. (Elizabeth's big sisterly concern and support for Will was adorable, btw.)

@tjafsan 26 дней назад

I gotta say Amanda's way of explaining the different tests are outstanding! So easily to understand for a complete novice ❤

@eljw247 25 дней назад

Will seems like a great guy & is certainly a consummate professional in all his visits to this channel but this goes above & beyond. Fantastic job by Will, the doctors and Elizabeth in putting this all together. Thank you all.

@jimwiesenauer6380 26 дней назад

I was so sorry that I couldn't participate in this live. I had a work meeting that started at 11 AM EDT and went for 90 minutes. Ugh! I did watch the whole performance start to finish and I am just mesmerized! All of the participants were amazing! The skill level of everyone, Will, E!, the Doctors/researchers, and all of the staff was so much more comprehensive than a well-oiled machine. I am certain that once all of the findings are published; it will be groundbreaking and many will get the benefits of this study. Well done E! This once again shows why you are THE BEST at what you do. Thank you for sharing your talent with all of us!

@cavebeastdemon3631 25 дней назад

Thanks to Will for doing this and Elizabeth for setting it up. More knowledge is ALWAYS better!

@laurieemme1534 28 дней назад

I am so looking forward to this! Thank you, Will, Elizabeth and the whole team for your willingness & passion to further vocal research. Also, Elizabeth has mentioned how music lights up so many areas of the brain. Now, when I hear a song I love, I'll imagine my brain lighting up like a Christmas tree, lol. Maybe you can show some brain scans in a future project!

@K0ticQueen7693 18 дней назад

Brain scans of Will when he listens to Sleep Token 😂

@laurieemme1534 18 дней назад

@@K0ticQueen7693 Yes! Let's see that dopamine rush! 😄

@Onitsutube 26 дней назад

the fact that You are doing this research alone is phenomenal, but sharing the process and results with us here on RU-vid and all the scientists is absolutely amazing... good job all of You 😊👍

@HeidiSchliesman 4 дня назад

it is so incredible all of the different screams Will is capable of. It makes Lorna Shore so much fun to listen to.

@kassiopiajudkins2722 19 дней назад

Damn, Will is a trooper! His willingness to put himself through these procedures, despite how uncomfortable some of them were, is truly appreciated.

@GrunkleBearnison 27 дней назад

The Pain Remains pt IV! So stoked for this.

@BeBanthenz 21 день назад

Now you need to get beatboxers there too to catalogue inward bass, vibration bass, vocalised chest bass, double voice, nasal bass, throat whistle etc.! Amazing video

@BeBanthenz 21 день назад

Someone like Remix or Zvd or King Inertia or Stitch would be perfect for this

@OpenMindAT 19 дней назад

Definitely bookmarking this to show it to my university voice students! I teach Alexander Technique, working with movement habits, and this is fantastic information about the relationship between specific vocal habits and larger movement patterns (when he's talking about turning his head, experiencing neck soreness, etc). It also clearly shows how our widely socially accepted aesthetics of sound or posture (clean, right angles, verticality) are absolutely not the only way to create healthy movement or muscle activation. What a fantastic study! Thank you so much for sharing this with the world.

@kaitlynmiracle 18 дней назад

So sick!! Will Ramos is the hands down the most talented vocalist. I love how giddy Elizabeth gets analyzing his vocalizations. Much love from Cedar City, UT 🖤🖤🖤

@digibirder 25 дней назад

Great admiration for Will Ramos on going through all this with such a great attitude. You will go down in history for what you've helped to do here. Well deserved! Total respect to you sir. With great friends like Elizabeth, Kirk you can't go wrong! The Charismatic Voice combines real analysis with music reactions to make a whole new kind of content. Welcome to the leading edge!

@TheCharismaticVoice 25 дней назад

Beautifully said, thank you Digibirder!

@AmandaJewellsC 26 дней назад

This is beautiful! I can’t wait! I love your genuine friendship! Will is a unicorn! As always, sending love ❤️ to all from Memphis.

@gabrielbarreto4178 19 дней назад

As a fellow researcher, a harsh vocal enthusiastic and a fan of bands like this, I'm thrilled. This makes me very happy. Thank you Elizabeth and Will.

@Tommy-he7dx 26 дней назад

Another stunning science vid.......absolutely love, love, love what i've just watched. Big Props to Will the willing Guinea Pig, He's a star in more ways than one.

@yuriiruy2423 26 дней назад

I was looking forward to this study! It's so crazy to see how much goes into a single sound and how singers are able to produce said sounds. Im so excited about all of this!

@zebulonswearingen4607 26 дней назад

This got clicked on immediately. As a fan of The Charismatic Voice and Lorna Shore, this is awesome. I was there for the camera down the throat video and I was fascinated by that one as well.

@Shivan003 25 дней назад

Thank you Elizabeth, and especially Will, for this peak content! You two are an amazing duo with how much excitement and joy you bring to every interaction, you can't help but love you both!