The Sean Payton & Russell Wilson Beef Won't Stop Lingering 

Russ is too concerned about his personal brand, but Payton has decided brand is to be an asshole.

He's a lot like Belichick, cept with more personality & a bigger shit talking mouth...

@@johnchedsey1306Sean Payton didn’t want to put up with Russ’s bullshit

I like Sean. I'd rather have a smart prick that prides himself on winning than a PR stunt like Russell that prides himself on his statline.

@@chizorama Like Belichick how?

Anyone who has followed Payton can tell you he's shallow, petty, and vindictive. Broncos get what they deserve for hiring that trash.

It’s Sean Payton of course he’s childish

As a Vikings fan we figured this out years ago 🤣

He's always been an asshole.

If you had to deal with Russell Wilson sucking ass, you'd hate him too and would understand Peyton's position. He had to go from a great like Brees to an idiot like Wilson

Russ has Ciara for backup, Payton would be stuck with Colin Cowherd.

Regardless there are no winners here 😂

I'd buy that for a dollar!

meet the wilsons would go hard

​@@disqusrubbish5467imma need a deep fake of Colin rapping: "FUCK WHAT YOU HERD, IT'S WHAT YOU HEARIN'..."

Russell has always been a one read, off schedule player. Always. I’m not sure why you think otherwise? It’s been like that since his rookie year. Maybe look at Seattles offense and defense over his time there. They were loaded.

Absolutely !!

Would you want a coach that thinks they suck?

AND THE SEAHAWK FANS LAUGH AND LAUGH AND LAAAAAAUUUUUGH…!!!!!!!!!!!!

Broncos boutta drop another stinkerrrrrerrrer 🎶

Did you have to take a sack there?! You know I'm fuckin pissed at you You had the slant wide OooOopen Did you have to take a sack there? Linger by Sean Cranberry Payton

Sean Payton: “But IM IN SO DEEEEEEEEEP”

@@ronweber4508Seahawks stay being a poverty franchise

Sometimes people are just not good fits personality wise with other people.

​@@HoPeFuLCheWBaCCamy 100% think you nailed it right there, this was never about Russ's abilities. This was 100% about Sean not liking rust

The names of the plays don't really tell you what you need to do on offense. Those names tell you what each player can do, then you have to see what he does (especially option plays), and then go off script. The fact is, many plays have long names and simple route concepts with no player options or special o-line shifts

​@@HoPeFuLCheWBaCCa that's all it is. Payton didnt want it to work so it didn't work.

​​@@JohnnyprcI don't get how his point goes against what you're saying. He's just making the point that Shottys play calling was complicated. From what I have heard, Shane Waldron's offense wasn't much easier to grasp, but who knows maybe that's why Russ wanted him gone, because of the complexity of his calls

IKR. And at that time he had a great defense and Alvin Kamara.

1) Bridgewater was a backup, so since Brees could play in the playoffs, Brees played. 2) Winston was a starter for one season with Payton and got a season-ending injury. That season was derailed by a lot of injuries not only but especially with their QB and at one point they had to bring out their 4th string QB to start a game. Still almost made the playoffs if the Rams would have held their 10 pt lead vs the 9ers Completely irrelevant stats.

Don't forget him also trying to make Taysom Hill a thing by having thtm split reps

He didn't but whatever makes people happy.

Yea idk where the hell she got that bit from 😂

She seems like a very very very very very very credible journalist that won't leak a source but doesn't know she's being used by said source 😂

Don't know if it's true or not. But it wouldn't be the first time a player that was with a team for a long time then switched did poorly because they couldn't pick up the play calls. Until someone puts their name to these admissions I won't care either way.

Two words. Trent Dilfer

The reason I think it’s probably true is because it was also a problem under Hackett. Delay of games were big issues and everyone blamed Hackett. Clearly Hackett wasn’t at fault for that.

@@jacksonpayne3477I mean…regarding Hackett, he’s never been a HC elsewhere and will never be, so we will never know. But regarding Wilson, Schottenheimer’s offense has extremely wordy play calls and Wilson ran it just fine. He started 10 years in the league. Are we really buying that Payton runs an offense so complex that a 10 year starter who ran the old Schotty playbook didn’t grasp it? Please. 😂. They’re trading jabs and that’s par for the course.

They won't. Season is doomed before it begins

Sean's cash payment?

Right what an annoying segment "very very very very very very very" annoying

She's a Browns fan, probably hates every other AFC team.

@@davidgalinat4257 if that's the case she just hates life in general. 😂😂😂😂

@@davidgalinat4257 Shes a Steeler fan. Get your facts right. She lives in Pittsburgh

He had a chance to learn over the years, you're talking about Auburn vs when he ended 3 years later. He just has to make gains. Russ is never going to, he's an old dog who won't learn a new trick. The fact the middle of the field is dead to him is bad enough

That is a big reason I dont like oregon qbs. Basically a scheme where you go to one side of the field, plays and audibles are called in from the sideline.

​@@batboy555 that's not a problem with herbert

​@@zaccatacc with Herbert's tendency the pull a Philip Rivers and throw interceptions at the end of games, are you sure about that?

@@zaccatacc him and if you want to go in the wayback machine dan fouts.

If he doesn't get injured he'll be good not great but good

He always looks good on stat sheets but just the sacks and lack of consistency is killer when a team lacks an elite defense.

Then Pittsburgh will be a possible for a wild card slot… RW has never won an away playoff game 🤔

Imagine the misery Perna would feel if Nix plays like garbage and has to be benched for Zach Wilson, and Russ takes the Steelers to a deep playoff run. Sure, all that seems highly unlikely...but imagine how hilarious it'd be

​@daviddean7778 I mean let's be honest the broncos were a baaaaaaaad team before they added him. He wasn't going to magically make the team better. It was a long shot to begin with. He could do well He could suck. Who tf knows. But the broncos are not gunna magically be better without him. One could argue the bottom could get wayyyyy worse.

I'll take it!

Right because Taysom Hill and Jameis Winston were good QB's to use

As soon as she said that I immediately disregarded everything else she said.

Bill Belichick?

I agree, Payton is over rated. We will find out in a couple years

@@Johnnyboyking1 She used Jameis "30 for 30" Winston as an example of him being great.

HOW...he just got there.

Maybe...just as Hackett was and future head coaches will be. Or maybe you should get your head out of your ass for a change...

Really depends on how good/bad Russ is with the Steelers.

It took Bountygate to get him the one ring he has.

I mean they did much better with him as head coach last year they also 2nd in the division so they somewhat improved with Payton and that sucks for me to admit as im a chiefs fan. I dont want to think about the bronco's maybe getting better.

That's a LOT of IMAGINATION lol

Let's also imagining that he was drafted by the Steelers & it all happened 8 to 10 years ago too then, bc that is about the only way he would retire a SB winning QB with the Steelers in reality on this timeline.

God I hope so. Firstly because I'm a steelers fan and that would be an absolute fucking miracle if it happened and two, because honestly? Sean Payton just seems like a gigantic asshole. All this Russ stuff really makes him just look like a petty manchild.

The Steelers offensive scheme doesn't allow Russ to shine with a lot of passing yards, but I'm looking forward to a very successful DangeRussStellers season ! :-)

Russ was DESPERATE to be Brees tho. So he tried, he just never was and never can be.

Lol the saints success was Sean Payton

@@georgehenan853 laughable comment georgie

@@sirripsalot420 how are they doing now? And before you say anything about brees, he fell off a ton by the time 2016 rolled around, and yet still made the playoffs consistently and earned a number 1 seed.

@@georgehenan853 Nah it was Drew Brees, very obvious

If anything I think that makes it more likely the story was corroborated by JJ as opposed to some sort of rivalry-fueled embellishment

@@BHox01 I feel like I'm still the only person who remembers Week 1 of '22 _as it happened._ Yeah, Hackett took his eyes off what was going on on the field for some inexplicable reason. But it was _Russ_ who trotted _off that field._ & Jeudy was _FLOORED_ by that. It was never Hackett's decision. Hackett didn't call on the FG unit. He sent Russ out there to get the 1st down. Russ went up & even looked like a child begging to go to the bathroom _then_ the FG unit came out. I was stunned anyone bought that this was Hackett's decision! What benefit was there in running out the clock _or_ kicking a FG no one thought could be made? This is another example of American culture's refusal to face even remotely disturbing truths. I mean how disturbing _can_ this fact have been. Are any of you *married* to Russ? But y'all shy away from truth in favor of obviously incorrect memes at every opportunity. For instance, if one made a split-screen video of Caleb's plays, would there be a single skill we haven't seen Fields do *in the NFL at the same skill **_level?_* Toss the ball 50+ air yards with a flick of the wrist, on the run, at weird arm angles, always hitting the target receiver? Like Caleb, the only difference for Fields is that his college receivers regularly caught these. Somehow Fields gets blamed for his receivers' inability to catch. He puts the ball where it belongs on timing plays, his receivers slow down & arrive late. His fault. He hits receivers in stride, they lose passes that hit them in the hands (Mooney, Calypool). His fault. His HC calls for him to Not Throw to certain receivers on certain plays. Everyone says "they had to do this to simplify the offense for him." So his fault again. He elevates that offense to being #1 3 weeks straight _BEFORE_ they acquired D.J. Moore in a league with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow & a WR _trio._ The Bears lose all those games. _That _*_got_* blamed on Fields too somehow. I have never seen any QB get so much unreasoning hate! He has the arm talent of Marino, better rushing ability than Lamar & with no o-line or receiving corps made a team the best offense with his own HC calling plays that killed drives. Could _Brady_ have done this? No. He's better than Brady. But since the culture just believes rhetorical, empty memes over facts, watch, someone's gonna claim that Fields is responsible for _something!_ "He holds onto the ball too long." What' when there's an open receiver? Or when his o-line decides not to block defenders & the only other choice is taking a sack? Or when he's scrambling because of this? Do other QBs *drop* the ball when scrambling? Is that what Fields should do? Or how about when the only receiver open was the one his HC said never to pass to? As I said, that killed drives. "He stares at open receivers." Yeah: his HC said not to throw to certain ones. He has to wait until they turn so he can read their jersey #. So, he's damned if he throws to his first read, doesn't, & everything else, even when the HC won't allow him to throw to other receivers or that one. Yet somehow despite having other QBs on the team I guess it's also his fault he was started despite being a total bust? You know, making them the #1 offense but the defense losing those games 'bust.'

She covers the Steelers actually. I think she put her foot in her mouth. Even funnier.

@@choosecarefully408 bro what

@@BHox01 Elephant. 97. Cream of wheat. The Andromeda galaxy. Water. Are any of those the answer you're looking for?

Well they did cheat on route to that super bowl "bounty gate"

It's not hate, he has the cache to speak on it like that. Honestly, Payton should have been able to do more with Brees & that defense in the latter years. Also, Payton jumped ship on the team after helping to create the salary cap mess they are currently dealing with Lastly, one of my biggest gripes with Payton was the fact that he could not find & develop a successor to Brees. Bridgewater could have been the heir apparent but they couldn't keep Teddy B on the roster.

The NFL gave NO a Superbowl because of Hurricane Katrina.... It was Obvious.

@@workconverseify nah, it’s hate. RC also celebrated his ass off when the no call against the Rams happened. He’s bitter af he never got to play for the Saints, which is odd because he got to play for the Steelers. Dude acts like he was a Redskin the whole time lol

Ryan Clark is from Marrero, Louisiana. He went to LSU. He loves his state he just hates Sean Payton.

Him getting beat by Hackett was street justice, ran his mouth, ran his foot right into it.

It's been my experience that Divas routinely cause other Divas to go into 'Bitch-mode Overdrive.' 😅🏆

Yeah, because ironically, russ took a another damn sack that resulted in a scoop and score and put the game out of reach. ​@chizorama

@@broncosfannum24 So then it was Russ that finally beat the Chiefs & not Payton... 🤔

@@chizorama the team beat the chiefs, not russ. Might have something to do with the defense holding the superbowl Champs to 9 points

Well yeah, but c'mon they have Bo Nix now. And he's a "point guard" QB. Surely this will work out better for the Broncos than it did for the Panthers. It's not like the Panthers hired a shitty coach who couldn't adapt his scheme to fit his players. This is Russell Wilson's fault. And if Nix fails under Payton, it's because Nix is a bust, not because Payton is garbage. He's way better than Frank Reich! But when the Broncos are picking first next year, at least they'll be able to draft a new QB in the horribly deficient QB draft class of 2025

Russell Wilson played like garbage

That she be a quote from a book!!! Good take.

clear shill for the Peyton camp. "oNe oF ThE bEsT OfFenSivE MinDs iN thE GamE"

@@connorsousa7448 if you don’t like him fine but to believe that someone with the career Russ has had simply can’t understand NFL offenses is crazy. I’m not a Russ fan at all

@@connorsousa7448 The guy that had Taysom Hill as a hybrid QB/WR/RB 😐 And went from the next best thing to being exposed against my 3-8 Eagles in 2020

You Pittsburgh fans see insults everywhere. Juveniles.

Hes not bad. Hes good. I expect a good season from Wilson this year. But his age is a factor now.

Nobody gives the guy credit, but you're forgetting that Denver C Lloyd Cushenberry finished like 3rd best overall at his position last year in the NFL. Russ was definitely nowhere even near 3rd best overall at his position last year. Not even top 10. Russ however was #1 in holding onto the ball too long and taking a horrendous amount of sacks for doing so.

Every single member of the O line was better at their position than Russ was.

@@kenw2225 Tomlins is an old school coach. Wilson won't be expected to do everything. He'll have a good defense and a run game. Wilson is more than a game manager, though. So, he'll be able to make plays and win games when he has to.

​@@jacksonpayne3477not

I can see if Payton had to water down his scheme some because Russ couldn't physically do everything, but to suggest he had to make every play call two words or less while everyone else learned the system? There's no way that's true. Gronk aint even that dumb.

The last few games Russ played every one in the stadium knew what Russ was gonna do...check down to a screen pass....it was very obvious...Russty had his chance !!

@@JojoCano-ix9cu Sounds like Taysom Hill in 2020

Maybe he got CTE from his brain rattling around during all of those sacks he has taken over the years. I say that as a joke, but it isn't entirely impossible that there is some truth to it, if indeed he is having problems with his memory & diminished mental capacity.

@@djdanicp totally possible he took some hard hits last year..he was taking so many shots that you can't blame Denver for asking Rus to get rid of the injury clause...Russ doesn't seem to have the same drive he had in Seattle.. he's like a robot just going through the motions...I'm just glad I don't have to listen to another press conference after a losing game that he played terrible in 🤮... although he is very positive about losing 🤮

Hes a clown. Brees dragged him to wins

Only 35 head coaches have ever done that

@@robwestb02 Sean Payton did it once with one of the best quarterback and receiver in the league. Andy Reid has done it 3 times & Bill Belichick has done it 6 times. I can't even name the amount of people who won two Super Bowls.

​@@mindlessmonk3322Hell, Joe Gibbs did it 3 times with 3 different QBs, none of whom are in the Hall of Fame.

And he wouldn’t have won that one if Manning’s receivers would have just caught the ball

She does not work for nlfn since 2022 and she has beef with the Steelers/Tomlin. She is a Browns reporter.

@@amberreed4443 This. Which is why she's more than happy to grind an ax against Wilson since he's a Steeler now.

Brandon appreciates your D Riding.

Because he covers a team that hasn’t been relevant in 10 years

I'm a kc fan and I'm subbed to this guy and watch ALL his videos

@@BuckFieri Not true at all. He grew the most when the Broncos were at their worst. Been following Perna for a LONG time, back before Mahomes in KC. Before Andy Reid, Denver had winning seasons lol. His channel has grown immensely these past couple years. His and Will's scripts are only getting better. This channel will only continue to grow. (Go Broncos)

RU-vid is in business with the NFL. Neither of those entities appreciate independent reporting.

Did they sign Pylon Pryor?

No, it’s hard to put together an NFL offense that can only take advantage of 2 parts of the field.

I want nothing more than for the Steelers to spank the Broncos for that exact reason

Damnit, i made this comment a few minutes ago before i saw this comments.

Lmao, outside of the AFC West I don't know which fanbases dislike the Broncos. But as a Giants fan I know I'd still love Brandon if he were a Cowboys fan... maybe

lol just finished the video and love that Brandon mentioned basically all of the above 👆

I mean none of these things contribute to Payton being “50%” of the problem. Just listing off things that show Sean Payton is an asshole (Not new information). He wasn’t wrong about Hackett either.

@@Big-Bonewell Hackett was a terrible coach. If there’s anyone that needs to be bullied it’s that clown. Sean Payton is still cleaning up his mess.

You’re so full of it. Sean Payton is a better coach.

YUP

Lol the Steelers do not have a better coach. And Russ isn’t getting anywhere He’s washed up rotten garbage at this point

Guess what my ring with SP fits... MT is by far one of the best coaches in the league and no nonsense. He will give RW some time and will eventually get fed up and move on. I give it a year.

He was carried by brees

​@@Dhruv4488 I think he is overrated but also not carried by Brees.

​@MaggyWaggy he was carried by putting bounty's on opposing players. His only SB is clouded HEAVILY by bounty gate. He should never have came back to the league after his suspension. He's an absolute disgrace to the sport

To say the least. When Brees fell off it was very evident how shitee he was as a coach.

Extremely overrated. He was hired at the same time as Johnathan Gannon in AZ and Gannon had zero talent on that roster when he took over other than the safeties n offensively Murray n McBride, and look at that roster now. They’ve done such a tremendous job compared to Payton in Denver it’s not even funny, AZ will be in the playoff mix this year and I don’t think anyone expects Denver to be good. I am sooo glad AZs owner had the foresight to see Payton wasn’t worth the bounty the Saints wanted in draft picks in return for his services

What? Wilson is garbage. Sean Payton is at least the best coach the broncos have had since mike Shanahan left.

Andy Reid is 66.

@@douggoodin Let's face it, he has Mahomes. That's like cheating

Agreed. That's the reason Belicheat is forced into retirement

@@yuan81 True, but on the other hand, Mahomes has Andy Reid.

5 of the last 6 super bowls the winning coaches were the oldest coaches in the NFL.

O be fair to Russ, he won a super bowl with you guys and was there for a second. Since he left, ya'll haven't done anything in the playoffs at all.

@@zaneplatt3533 absolutely. Russ is the best qb in Seahawks history. It was just the way carroll used him. Rely on the run and good d to keep it close and then let russ win it in the end. When they relied on him too much they weren’t as good.

Russ has only been gone two years. What did Riss accomplish in the playoffs without a generational defense. Without the LOB, Seattle won one playoff game with Wilson at QB. That lone win came when the defense gave up only 9 points. ​@zaneplatt3533

100 percent agree, his whole beef with Russell Wilson was about personalities. He wanted to be the big dog he didn't want anybody that wasn't going to worship Him

You’re so full of it

Kinda still is. Ain't yall paying him a huge part of your salary cap to play in Pittsburgh next year? How much of his contract was guaranteed? Yall broke for awhile. Definitely still your problem.

@@spacehonky6315that’s why they cut him. It’s not much of a problem anymore past this year.

Russ never was, but he wasted 2years of his live for getting scapegoated, slandered and damaged his reputation by a dysfunctional franchise who betrayed him.

@@donmiguel4848 no, he just sucked horribly

@@donmiguel4848that dysfunctional franchise is one of the most successful in nfl history, if Russ can’t get his head out of his a$$ that’s his problem

Just a false narrative though. Sean changed the offense to fit around Russ and maximise the Broncos chances to win.

If Russ doesn't thrive in Pittsburgh, we already know everyone else will be blamed but him.

Why should denver be stuck with a lame duck qb?

Bingo. Look at Nix's numbers vs Georgia last year. 56.8% completion rate, 173 passing yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs. But I'm sure there's some other reason Nix's numbers improved so much and his time to throw went from 2.65 to 2.41 when he left the SEC. As a team with a different "point guard" QB, Broncos better make sure that the interior of their o-line holds up or else Bo is toast

@@matriculatethefootball I’m pretty sure he has enough experience to play in the NFL but since he’s in his rookie year how he’s coached can make or break his career. Broncos offensive staff better not fail the kid

Both you idiots realize sack totals are about the same for those 2 conferences and the Pac 12 actually eeks out the SEC for team sack totals last year right?

😂🤣😂🤣 HBTC!!

Have fun getting $h0t

Have fun living in that open sewer of a city

Have fun in that low tier nightmare of a city

@@georgehenan853 That would be Denver 😂🤣

Are you an idiot lol? The Broncos are paying Wilson the majority of his contract to play somewhere else, they still have to pay him. Wilson is a high school QB at best, he should thank Pete Carroll every day, for the rest of his life.

I think he called stupid plays just to try and make Russ look bad. (I know, I know - a Bountygater wouldn't do something like that, right? /sarc)

The contract was horrible, of course they would move on. You think they’d just suck it up and suck? This is one of the blue blood franchises in the nfl.

@@georgehenan853 Moving on is fine. New coach should have the leeway to do that. But be a man, sack up, and own that decision. Instead of what appeared to be a very immature, unprofessional handling of the situation. Wilson may be washed. He may not have been a fit for what Payton wanted to do. But the way Payton has behaved during and after the situation reflects poorly on him.

@@drb4074 Exactly this. Funny thing is if he didn't treat Wilson like crap and actually tried to make the most out of it they might have been able to trade him somewhere only having to eat a % of his cap hit. Instead the "mastermind" threw a temper tantrum, to Wilson's credit he never took the bait and now they're stuck with 38 mil in dead cap for 2 years. Oh and I do believe the GM who gave Wilson that 'terrible' contract is still there. Long story short, the Broncos and Payton look like assholes for how they handled it

That's too nuanced for sports talk in modern media social landscape. One must be the bad guy, and it should be the guy I don't like.

@@drb4074 Hence the 5 likes lmao

So does his wife

Reality TV for men and nobody can see it

That's most of these pro league coaches. It's actually rarer to find one that isn't a narcissist egomaniac. Honestly, the job almost demands that you be somebody who is 110% sure you are right all the time. So many second-guessers it will crush you if you aren't so full of yourself you won't listen to any critics.

Because these people aren’t broncos fans, they’re haters jealous of Denver trophy’s and historical success.

@@georgehenan853 We really have become Diet Cowboys fans... That's not really anything impressive...

@@uriyahndoesstuff9982 denver doesn’t have half the cockiness and entitlement that cowboys fans do. Denver was just relevant for so long that fans forgot what it was like to lose.

Go Nuggets!

Delusional to think the most accurate passer in NCAA history isnt gonna do good behind a top 7 oline in a sean payton offense

I feel bad for Bo Nix. Broncos will ruin him and he'll be a backup in 3 years.

Delusional to think Caleb Williams won’t be a bust. Its also delusional that anyone listen to a clown like you

Idk if anyone really thinks he is going to fix anything. Seems like Payton just thinks Bo is a better fit.

Exactly what they said about CJ Stroud last year. And we all know how well that aged

Give it to urinatingTree.

What happened to all your chest hair, Perna? I see that Manscape sponsor is treating you good, and I'm glad.

Brandon I'm jacked to the max Perna. You rock! 💪