The Search for Planet X Review - with Tom Vasel 

Oh, it only works on apples. I'll put my 286 away then.

You could also not believe your opponents

@@Trae_Lenox, Well, you aren't allowed to lie in Clue. The thing for my experience is that you ASSUME each player is going to ask a question that benefits them, and there's no benefit to asking about 3 cards that you hold in your hand. So everyone assumed that I had discovered at least one card in the solution because no one had any of the cards I asked about.

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get awkward guests. thank me later.

@@syahidali6125 Tom's current #1 deduction game, I believe. In his top 40 games of all time. Looks like I must get this game now too lol

@@syahidali6125 I will take a look

@@syahidali6125 ...its not as good as Tom thinks... >_> Don't get me wrong! It is pretty fun but I think for myself and people I've spoken with, he's overhyped it somewhat. I think I like planet x lot better actually.

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If it has changed since last time it's Awkward Guests which includes hand management and more player interaction (although I'd argue the logical deduction is a lot weaker/definitely less satisfying than the rules driven stuff in Planet X)

Once someone finds planet x, everyone else gets one turn to either also guess planet x or make a theory and then the game is over.

@@Phildiculous thanks!

Has your success been with the advanced or standard side?

I guess thats true for many board games... The experience is just muuuch smoother and enjoyable when you have the actual paper from the game to make your deductions on and a shield with all the logic rules on it and a board to keep all the theories organized. I think for the vast majority of people, yes, this is really better, but your threshold for whats worth buying and whats worth taking time to make a pen and paper recreation is probably just different from most.

Eric Steinbacher I love it solo.

Plays great solo

It's more grounded in realism, but if he likes that, he's going to love it.

It's also nice if your son plays on his own, because he could have more starting information to make it more even

This is fun no matter how you play it. You could co-op it with your son, talking out loud about strategy playing against the bot. You could play competitively against him where you can start with 0 clues and he can start with 12, ensuring you both can play to the best of your abilities. Great system.

I'm guessing Awkward Guests. Tom raved about it and it has more player interaction

Sam D I suspect you are right. Awkward Guests is probably his favorite. It also has the feature that other people can’t mess up your deduction thanks to the App. The card passing also makes it very interactive. The only bad thing about Awkward Guests is the card setup. While people can’t mess you up, putting one wrong card can and setting the cards up can be a pain.

I own both this and Alchemists and Planet X has some nice advantages: - Planet X has a great built in solo mode in the app! Alchemists unfortunately doesn't. (There's a couple of unofficial solo variants for Alchemists out there that are ok but a little clunky.) - Planet X makes solving the logic puzzle the core of the game. Alchemists on the other hand feels like you get sidetracked from the deductive part of the game fairly often into the worker placement aspects for points and money. Not that those parts of the game aren't fun, but it definitely feels more like a hybrid game that has a deduction component than a pure deduction game. - Planet X has a much shorter setup and takedown time, and it's also a lot easier to learn the rules. Alchemists in contrast is a medium weight worker placement game where you have to explain what all the spaces do and learn all the iconography, etc. It's definitely harder to get new players up to speed playing Alchemists than it is Planet X. Believe me, I love Alchemists, but I am definitely playing Planet X way more than Alchemists now, especially as a solo game. (It's also kind of replaced Rising 5 for me which is another great deduction game with an app.)

@@Bodyknock All fair points. Nonetheless, I don't have the money or space for a game that overlaps with Alchemists. Appreciate the reply.

@@Bodyknock Thanks for the comparison. I also love Alchemists so I was curious how it compared.

If you understood what “projection” is, you would be really embarrassed about now.

what ?

You don't. Played it today. Once a turn you choose the action on your phone. The rest of the game you're focused on the board and your player sheet.

"people who dont' play app games". Why would that be a thing?

I couldn't imagine a game like this existing without an app. You would need a giant book instead with some way of hiding information, so you can only look up bits and pieces.

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