The Search for the Earliest Kings of Egypt

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Narmer, the first king of Egypt's first dynasty, was not, in fact, the first king of Egypt. What do we know about the kings that ruled before him? What evidence do we have about their existence? In this video, find out who Egypt's earliest kings were.
ERRATA: At 7:28, I mention that no gods are mentioned as ruling Egypt in any New Kingdom King List. This may be true for official king lists, but there is a papyrus document called the Turin King List, which comes from the 19th dynasty and does indeed suggest that gods ruled before Menes. The document is in very poor condition, and there is a lot of room for interpretation, but there is enough in the fragments to tell that this is the case. This would make it the earliest known document to carry this tradition.
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@WorldofAntiquity Год назад

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@beepboop204 11 месяцев назад

🙃🙂🙃😂🙂🙂🙃🙂🙂😉

@thatcanadianwhitetrashguy 10 месяцев назад

You need to check those Earliest Egyptian Writing with the Early Egyptian Style Writing Found in Australia. It is Very Amazing and could Explain the Aussie Styles that showed Up in Egyptian Work such as the Sudden Appearance of a Boomerang Style Weapon

@beepboop204 10 месяцев назад

@@thatcanadianwhitetrashguy was it AlienZ who ddi it? should i grab some DMT? or just idiots?

@hydrolito 8 месяцев назад

Kings were of England, Egypt called their rulers Pharaohs.

@beepboop204 8 месяцев назад

@@hydrolito fantastic stupid virtue signalling attempt. "King is the title given to a male monarch in a variety of contexts". not just "of England". it is perfectly fine to call pharaohs kings. only lame "uh actually" minded goofs would be so pedantic

@rawr2u190 11 месяцев назад

This is interesting. If Narmer was one of the first kings of unified Egypt, then logically there'd be kings of non-unified Egypt, and proto-kings as well.

@hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

Yep archeology in Egypt goes back way further than the Pharoahs, mummies and pyramids everyone is familiar with. There's an entire pre-history that is just as interesting where many of the cultural signifiers we'd come to associate with Pharoahnic Egypt developed. It's not like Egypt just suddenly emerged fully formed as a civilization 5000 years ago, a lot of stuff lead up to that.

@Kemet3.0 5 месяцев назад

@@hedgehog3180 Indeed, but the title was never attributed to Egypt; instead, it was referred to as Kemet. Furthermore, to acquire such extensive knowledge and culture from Africa, they had to traverse the entire continent. Consequently, they resided in numerous regions across Africa to encompass a diverse array of experiences. Eventually, all the distinct tribes unified at that time to establish ancient Kemet/Egypt. Moreover, internal conflicts necessitated warfare among themselves.

@Rynewulf 5 месяцев назад

@@Kemet3.0Egypt is just the modern word because we're using English. Its not some far out concept that the ancient Egyptians used their own language for their own terms. The English speaking world learned about Egypt via the Romans, who picked up the name through the Greek Aegyptos

@SevenCostanza 2 месяца назад

@@Kemet3.0nope

@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew 2 месяца назад

@@SevenCostanzayou can't just say nope ,give your account of why you disagree

@J_Z913 Год назад

My boy Diodorus! I'm very happy we have his work, even if he does exaggerate a bit. Ok, he exaggerates a lot, but you get my drift! 😆 Thanks Dr. Miano!

@Imperiused Год назад

This is one of those periods that I am most excited to see new discoveries for!

@lastofmygeneration 11 месяцев назад

Same here. I'm sick of all the Alt History folks conjuring up aliens to fill the void.

@edgarsnake2857 11 месяцев назад

Egypt--the gift that just keeps on giving...and giving...and giving...and--all right, already. Thanks, David for another fascinating look into the mists of time.

@michaelglynn9329 11 месяцев назад

It’s fascinating that the royal iconography goes back so far. There’s so much strange and mysterious iconography from the earliest dynasties: the imiut fetish, the “royal placenta,” the coils on the red crown spoken of in the pyramid texts. I wish we had more information from that period

@faragraf9380 2 дня назад

we have more, but egyptologist don’t recognize. We have the gods list of example in Sethis I temple and more.

@michaelglynn9329 2 дня назад

@@faragraf9380 what doesn’t Egyptology recognize? What’s the god list?

@rts0fft0ya16 11 месяцев назад

I really appreciate this channel, and others like it. There's so much silly crap out there. I'm grateful that there are real scholars around to set the record straight. Thanks, Doc. 👍

@deepdrag8131 11 месяцев назад

He’s good, but he doesn’t tell us enough about the aliens who created a technologically advanced civilization many thousands of years ago.

@GUULLIVER 11 месяцев назад

@@deepdrag8131 He is not interested in regurgitating those *_"silly crap."_* 🤣

@ThugShakers4Christ 10 месяцев назад

Everything I ever needed to know about Ancient Egypt, I learned from TikTok

@MossyMozart 9 месяцев назад

@@ThugShakers4Christ - So, you know nothing about ancient Egypt?

@hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

@@MossyMozart Miniminuteman started out on TikTok so maybe he knows some stuff.

@tommunyon2874 11 месяцев назад

My first exposure to ancient Egypt was in my 4th grade reader, which had a story of two ordinary Egyptian boys. I pictured in my mind daily life in a setting very similar to the setting in the near by Rio Grande valley, and people living a lifestyle like that of the Anasazi. I considered the source of the story to be ancient to my 9 year old mind, since it was copyrighted in the 1940s, about 15 years before I read it in class. I didn't learn about pharhonic Egypt until later, so I have always been drawn to wanting to know what happened in prehistoric Egypt.

@lastofmygeneration 11 месяцев назад

I've always wondered who the first kings in Egypt were. Thanks for giving us a quality video on the topic.

@loke6664 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, sadly we are still wondering the same thing but hopefully will future archaeologists find more clues. The real problem though is that before Pharaoh Scorpion I hieroglyphs doesn't seem to exist so we are kinda stuck to later king lists and guesses based on pictures before that. History with Cy also had a good episode on the pre dynastic period in his series to cover all dynasties (he is currently on the 19th dynasty) which is worth a look if you are interested in the early period. We also have a lot of more information on upper Egypt then lower, the Maadi of lower Egypt are more of a mystery. We know they actually did something in Giza based on 30 or so pottery shards found there but we don't know what. They did like to make underground dwellings... They require even more digging.

@JayKahns 11 месяцев назад

@@loke6664They mentioned an origin from Punt in their stories. Long forgotten history or whatever most likely.

@loke6664 11 месяцев назад

@@JayKahns Those stories are a lot later though, so while I don't think we should just write them off, neither do I think we can just take their word for it. Let's call it one possibility. Likelier they were in what's now the desert until the green Sahara period started to wane off and settled in upper Egypt where the Nile kept everything green. That lead to a higher population density which is how most civilizations start out. Once Upper Egypt got powerful enough, Narmer conquered lower Egypt from the Maadi and became the first real Pharaoh.

@harvardarchaeologydept3799 11 месяцев назад

@@JayKahns PUNT is modern day somalia. Be careful sir. This is why hawass cannot say anything. It destroys islam immediately because AL’LAT was worshipped in arabia before allah in 579ad. AL’LAT is the black ethiopian women. AL-UZZA is another name for her worship. KUSHITE blacks ruled arabia by the millions+. They began sharia law and beheaded Arabs first.

@godlion9808 4 месяца назад

Dude all you have to do is look up the kemetic Kings list it's 65,000 year history of the rulers of Egypt aka kemet aka the black land, also people don't read Alexander the great's diary he tell you why the Greeks and pretty much every other nation on earth lusted after the land for thousands of years I could go deeper but I'm not going to cuz I don't want to offend nobody 😊

@reportedstolen3603 11 месяцев назад

The Qustul incense burner is also good evidence for early Pharaonic iconography. It has many similarities to upper Egyptian rock art and A-group Nubia. Also the various use of Medu Neter in serveral African societies is quite interesting.

@Robin_Kamari 11 месяцев назад

Very interesting indeed. Imagine if Bruce Williams never made this information known, folks would still speculate the pre-dynastic continuity regarding motifs, poetry, and culture contributions.

@shafsteryellow 5 месяцев назад

It's called dabqaad

@leomchesi 11 месяцев назад

Hey David thank you!! one question, how about the Turin Papyrus? That list stretches back quite more than the Palermo Stone right? i wonder if you think the Turin Papyrus is a valuable document for historians, or to be dismissed, and if so why.

@WorldofAntiquity 11 месяцев назад

The Turin King List definitely carries the tradition about the gods ruling Egypt prior to the 1st dynasty. If it is from the 19th dynasty, as is generally thought, then it is the earliest example of this tradition. You are right to bring it up, and I should have mentioned it.

@everettduncan7543 5 месяцев назад

@@WorldofAntiquity Speaking more about the Palermo Stone, how likely is it that the first kings on that list were the first names ever recorded?

@lyarrastark6254 11 месяцев назад

Predynastic Egypt is such an intriguing period for me. Thank you for the video.

@JMM33RanMA 11 месяцев назад

This video is amazing. The explanation of the origins of the well known later Egyptian civilizations [plural!] is essential to counteract the falsehoods peddled by grifters and fantasists. Some of the tiles shown feature an animal and a possible glyph. Such things are valuable keys to unlock the past, but are frequently and eagerly misused by some to create alternate, proof-free, narratives. The holes on the tiles could indicate that they might be decorations, talismans, or merchandise tags or counters. They resemble tiles associated with the Indus Valley Civilization. They also resemble the playing tiles and cards used in East Asia [Hanafuda in Japan, Hwa Tu in Korea]. They could just as easily be teaching/learning material, this mark = this thing. One of the glyphs resembles an ancient Chinese character for water. Instead of using the unsound, childish method of "looks like" means "is," critical thinking must be employed. Ask a child to make a picture of water, and wavy lines are most likely to be drawn, which resembles the character = water 漢字 -> ≋ -> 水. This understanding of depiction becoming symbol, sign or glyph is crucial to interpreting ancient relics. It has to be carefully used so as not to become the mode of charlatans, "I think so, therefore it is true," so familiar in the presentations of the notorious grifters Error von Dummkopf and Grayman Handschlock. Thanks Prof. Miano for your lucid explanations of ancient history and archaeology, so necessary not only to dispel false narratives, but to enlighten the public and promote understanding of our ancestors and the civilizations that they have made.

@dukeon 11 месяцев назад

I agree that false narratives are a dime a dozen, and I understand the scientific method very well. But how does that Chinese ideogram look anything like water? I’m quite interested in the origins of East Asian writing just as much as Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and Mesoamerican. It’s said to be written on animal bones during the Shang Dynasty, but I wonder whether it goes back further than that… So many mysteries to be solved, and enjoyed in the process.

@JMM33RanMA 11 месяцев назад

Wavy lines to represent water are usually horizontal, but to represent a river or stream vertical. The modern Chinese character for water is ㊌ though in decorative use it can be written as three vertical wavy lines. I have seen use of wavy lines on objects made by native Americans. I am not suggesting the 19th century idea of single origin for everything, nor the idea that everything is independently arrived at. The problem is that both things are possible, there being clear evidence for pyramids being independently developed, while some things have been shared by trade or conquest. The error is "one size fits all" thinking. If you are specifically referring to my description of the tile depicted in the video; looks like, or similar to do not mean identical. The 2nd tile from the right, top row, looked like it might be water flowing from a spring or a flower or a bunch of scallions. You probably know that linguists sometimes try to find a relation between languages by natural sounds, i.e. "wa wa"is a baby sound, so it may be pronounced that way in Latin, it is more like the dog sound to Japanese and Chinese. That method is fraught. We think that dogs say "bow wow" or "woof woof" but Koreans think it's "mong mong." It is my contention that graphic representation is less problematic, though not at all perfect.@@dukeon

@hedgehog3180 7 месяцев назад

I love this period of history where pre-history slowly transforms into history. It really gives you a feeling of the mists of time, and unlike pre-history where it's basically impossible to know anything specific here there are still names and mysteries to be solved. You get such a tantilizing feeling that if you could just focus your eyes a bit more you can peer beyond the veil of time and see something definite, like noticing an object glinting in the fog far away in a bog. Even if this feeling is purely a mirage it just feels so close that if you could just reach a little bit further you could grab it and that on it's own is enough to inspire wonder and motivate research and learning.

@PlanetDeLaTourette 11 месяцев назад

Pre-dynastic Egypt was a changing landscape. Desertification happened quickly. Just a few centuries, from green to sand. This is a "seasonal", periodical, proces which has happened hundreds of times, past millions of years. From a rich landscape to the life line, the Nile, in a hostile place. When we think of Egypt we think in monochrome: yellowish. This was a new situation, in which they found themselves, which might have lead to formation of these power structures.

@Cat_Woods 11 месяцев назад

Is "hierarchization" (sp?) considered necessary or a natural part of civilization? I always wonder if there were alternate paths history could have taken. Or, another way to put it, if there are other planets where intelligent life evolved, how likely is it that they became hierarchical, with small groups of intelligent beings violently controlling large groups of intelligent beings and asserting their superiority as societal belief? Is it like how the arms race between predator and prey drove biological evolution? Could other societal traits, like a more equitable distribution of power or a societal belief in the inherent worth of life, have driven a different societal evolution?

@MyMy-tv7fd 11 месяцев назад

this is all covered in Stargate, a great documentary

@noviloba 11 месяцев назад

This is like calling the Saxon kings the first kings of the United Kingdom. It was a different kingdom.

@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew 2 месяца назад

You can't compare saxon kings in 8th century A.D to the story of African nile valley culture in 3100BC that's just stupid they are completely different concepts

@ohlangeni 11 месяцев назад

The population that would become Ta Seti, Egypt, Kerma, Kush, Merowe originate at Nabta Playa in the Eastern Sahara (north west Sudan). The pre-Dynastic kings or Dynasty 0 appears to be kings of Ta-Seti a kingdom that pre-dates Kemet/Egypt. The royal family of Kush descend from the 4th dynasty of the Old Kingdom Period. The kings of Ta Seti had their capitals at Abydos, Nekhet, and Tinis all in Lower Nubia/Upper Egypt. What is funny is that Germany in 2017 performed what they called a DNA study on the genetic affirnity of ancient Egyptians (using mummies of the Greek.era), concluding that ancient Egyptians, an African population had "no African DNA" but were closely related to Germans and Near East populations. This was.an attempt to appropriate Africa's history for Europe and Asia.

@Ameer-dj5gj 11 месяцев назад

Tinis has never been in Nubia but close to nowadays alexandria. kushites weren't ethnic egyptian although their culture was. the Kemetic population has always been african but not the first ruling cast. They were blue-eyed foreign invaders or refugees.

@ohlangeni 11 месяцев назад

@@Ameer-dj5gjTinis is in Upper Egypt. Had you watched the video presentation you would have seen that it is right next to Abydos, north. Nabta Playa was a 12000 year old Culture in the East Sahara, Africa that birth Nile Valley civilisation including Egypt as well as most other African cultures in East and Southern Africa. Why should Ancient Egyptians in your mind be "Blue eyed foreigners"? I know why: you want them to be Eurasian, to be non-African; you want to appropriate Africa's heritage for Europe and Asia

@Ameer-dj5gj 11 месяцев назад

@@ohlangeni Now we agree on Tinis location. The main issue between us is still there. As i said, the comoners were african& still are to this day. nasser, sadat.. ( former egyptian leaders) are black. Ancient Khemetic poems talks about a western origin of the pharaohs& how they were antideluvian sea kings descendants. I'm not white btw. ☮️

@ohlangeni 11 месяцев назад

@@Ameer-dj5gj You have not answered the question why ancient Egyptians were "blue eyed foreigners"....now you are flip flopping claiming the commoners were Black but the Pharaohs were White foreigners. President Abdel Nasser was mostly Caucasian (with some obvious African features). But it is clear he was a descendant of Arabs, Turks, Syrian, Circassian, Cuman, Oghuz and Kipchak Turks, Kurds of Saladin, Romans, Macedonian Greeks and Persians. President Mohamed Tantawi was Black.

@Ameer-dj5gj 11 месяцев назад

@@ohlangeni I don't do that. I decided to engage you so i assume. The fact that ruling casts come from elsewhere is the rule not the exception throughout history. The first Slavic states( kiev-russ) were established by vikings even if the population was slavic. The city-state of teotihuacan in mexico was founded by overseas. Sumerian tales of origins, babylon was founded by Chaldeans who didn't look like indigenous people, the Akkadians were blue-eyed&we know it thanks to their sculptures. The first roman kings were Etruscans... etc

@SacredGeometryDecoded 11 месяцев назад

The Crocodile King was named Mck Dndy and his palace was in Hmpti Du

@alst4817 11 месяцев назад

Yes, his chancellor was ihatethebush

@CChissel 11 месяцев назад

I’ve always been very curious and fascinated with pre-dynastic Egypt and it’s origins. Well, honestly not just Egypt, most ancient civilizations fascinate me, especially their likely origins. My uncle (archaeologist) and I are always discussing this, especially the early Peruvian cultures, but often encapsulates Asia and Africa. I love this subject so much, I wish I had made it part of my career.

@AncientPuzzles 11 месяцев назад

Nice that you showed what Günter Dreyer believed were proto hieroglyphs, which makes a lot of sense. Those certainly help to understand previous pre-dynastic iconography, as well as the origin of dynastic hieroglyphs of course

@buckodonnghaile4309 11 месяцев назад

The earliest Pharoahs were of irish Canadian stock but those who write the history have suppressed that knowledge.......sorry, couldn't help myself.

@backalleycqc4790 11 месяцев назад

Yes, when you factor in the time warp facility just outside Toronto, many realities are possible.

@kashtar 11 месяцев назад

No, I posit that they were Vikings who liked African cultures and especially hairstyles! 😂😂💀💀

@JayKahns 11 месяцев назад

Irish and Canadian stock is the furthest thing from what Egypt was…Irish and Canadians don’t even carry E1B1B or even J.

@saumensingh9482 11 месяцев назад

Northern r@ces (white) r described $ubhum@n by Greco-Roman, f!lth!est by 10th c IBN Fadlan. Literally under b©©t$ of Mittani descents Roman. Indo Irani Saka Sauromata Alani Raslani liberated whites from wr@th of Roman. Again €n$laved by freshly arrived Kshatriyas (Norse Goth) from d Ganges. There's no Irish British race, they're geographical areas coined by Roman & Indo Iranis. Whites r again €n$laved by TochaArya Khotan led Turkik Mongolic tribals. Check your kings are R1a1aY/R1a1Y.

@somaliano99kingkonghimself75 11 месяцев назад

😭🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏

@mikegreen8938 10 месяцев назад

More than likely the early kings were either the Dinka, Nuer, or Shilluk. When I was at Georgetown there were two Dinka men who were not only giant sized, but intellectual giants. It's no doubt that their ancestors were the beginning.

@mikeheffernan 11 месяцев назад

That was extremely interesting. Thanks!!!

@alkhemiegypt 11 месяцев назад

Loved this video! Very timely for me as I've been reading a lot about predynastic Egypt in the last few months and last weekend I went to Manchester Museum where there's a lot of predynastic pottery.

@dukeon 11 месяцев назад

Ooh, thanks. I’ll have to visit that museum.

@alkhemiegypt 11 месяцев назад

It's wonderful! My friend told me that Manchester has one of the largest collections of ancient Egyptian artefacts outside Egypt. 😃

@jackcommonman1381 11 месяцев назад

hey now, take it easy on us ancient alien blokes ;)

@adisura9904 11 месяцев назад

Also if some tablet says Gods ruled egypt then GODS RULED EGYPT😂😂😂

@ilonapugmire6312 3 месяца назад

Question l was asking if there were any links between predynastic egypt and ancient Atlantis and on another channel they claim that according to the Palermo Stone and the Turin King list the predynastic kings of egypt ruled as early as 9000 bc and ancient Atlantis, was no mysterious lsland but predynastic egypt........what you make of it I possible likely...?😂

@michelg.rabbat2267 11 месяцев назад

From Michel G Rabbat/😢😢😢Fl Egypt.a😮mer.Auser ruled out of the closest oasis to Abju..Auset ruled from same oasis northwards yo wards the N valley. Hoor s descendants ruled the south with elephantine as relious center fron Nubland to delta..we find word iti as in nefert iti still in use today by Nigerian Yoruba welcoming their religiouleader..iti is still used in Latin as in Ite missa est..go. Mas ended ..also in Arabic Yarti. Past tense ata..to come..came3 movements 1 s. From Senegal. Eastwards thru savanna s. Of sahara mountains..another n.of mountains ..bdrbers to Siwa oasisand god Amons leader ITi De...Kab 18:36 😢

@leadingauctions8440 2 месяца назад

Can you please tell us more about the oldest king with the feather headdress from 3800 BC? That is utterly fascinating and mysterious. Is there any idea what his name was based on his tomb?

@roykay4709 11 месяцев назад

Having watched Cy's "Egypt, Dynasty by Dynasty", I appreciate your take on this period as well. I hope more information will some day be unearthed.

@NeptunesLagoon 2 месяца назад

I’ll take well known Caucasians for 600 Alex…😮

@stefanalexanderlungu1503 2 месяца назад

Robert Sephr?

@ilonapugmire6312 4 месяца назад

Excellent just what l was looking for....✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️🍀🍀🌷🌷💞

@ColasTeam 11 месяцев назад

It's interesting how in a way, Egyptians seemed to consider their country only truly began existing after the unification of the north and the south, and everything before that was ignored and forgotten as if it was unimportant.

@loke6664 11 месяцев назад

I am not sure that is what they did, but the hieroglyphs were not so widely used before Narmer, the oldest were the primitive one found in Scorpion Is grave (the large showed in this vid). The old Kingdom still showed some of them on their king list while the new Kingdom doesn't even mention Narmer and call the first Pharaoh "Menes" which could have been a another name for him or not, but it is strange that he is called Narmer in all the old Kingdom writings. I think it have more to do with the fact that there was an enormous span of time between the pre dynastic period and the New kingdom who forgot all the names. We are talking 2000 years there. about the same time as between us a Cleopatra. Add to that the lack of pre dynastic monuments and I don't think it is too far fetched that they were forgotten. We still have gaps in the English king list for the 6th and 7th century today and that is in a shorter period. If the New kingdom lacked access to an old kingdom kings list, I think there is no mystery if they had forgotten all the pre dynastic kings. Someone like Khufu who built a huge pyramid they did certainly remember but I don't think we certainly know of any other building by king Scorpion the first then his large grave and the New kingdom scholars hardly knew of it either.

@ColasTeam 11 месяцев назад

@@loke6664 Those are all good points!

@The_Truth- День назад

That’s because those who believe that are descendants of foreigners and nor kin to the foundational Egyptians who knows those origins.

@SandyRiverBlue 8 месяцев назад

This is why religious zealots make posse poor historians. Ironic that the power of the temples and priests increases inversely to how far back they remember history.

@uniformityofnature1488 11 месяцев назад

KEMET

@philbarker7477 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for creating this video.Such an interesting period.Far be it for me to mention anything, however.. In the period you are discussing circa 5,000 years ago the area was undergoing huge climatic change. Whilst living next to a river is always a good place to settle there were huge inland (western now desert) lakes and rivers ,indeed you reference the desert rock carvings. It’s perfectly possible that these ‘kings’ were indeed the very first ‘settled kings’ as prior to this it appears that the population was largely nomadic Hunter gatherers as the abundance of ( depicted) wildlife allowed for this simpler lifestyle. Having said that I appreciate proto farming had started 5k earlier with Natufian etc.

@Thorwald_Franke 10 месяцев назад

Oh, you missed the opportunity to name the number of years as age of Egypt, in which Herodotus believed. These were 11,340+ years. And Herodotus was the closest before Plato and his 9,000 years of Atlantis and his 10,000+ years of Egypt. You could have seeded some knowledge against the 10,000 BC delusion raging among pseudoscientists ... but besides this, a very good video. I have seen the Palermo stone in person in Palermo. It is surprisingly small, and our tourist guide even did not know about it (he knew only about Sicily), and so I almost missed it. But only almost.

@JungleJargon 10 месяцев назад

Narmer is probably Ham. His descendants are Cushites Canaanites Egyptians and the North Africans from Phut.

@AlbertaGeek 2 месяца назад

This is a science channel, not a fairy-tale channel. Take your creationist cr@p elsewhere.

@stefanalexanderlungu1503 2 месяца назад

Do you also believe the world was created 6000 years ago?

@JungleJargon 2 месяца назад

@@stefanalexanderlungu1503 There’s no other human history or genealogies. All calendars are 5,000 years old. The Hebrew records go back 6,000 years.

@stefanalexanderlungu1503 2 месяца назад

@@JungleJargon The Sumerian Kings List goes back 240,000 years. Why does that have any less of a claim to history than the Genesis chronology?

@Myo-v1k Месяц назад

@@JungleJargon Cushities origins are East Africa. Does Phut have any relation to the Land of Punt?

@rojave1481 4 месяца назад

So it all began in Nubia!!!!!😃 Great work!!!!

@WorldofAntiquity 4 месяца назад

From north to south it's: Lower Egypt, Upper Egypt, Nubia.

@The_Truth- День назад

@@WorldofAntiquityYou mean from the south to the north.

@WorldofAntiquity 17 часов назад

@@The_Truth- No, I stated it correctly.

@The_Truth- 17 часов назад

@@WorldofAntiquity No, you didn’t. Upper Egypt is where the culture and original Egyptians come from. It would be Indigenous Africans, upper Egypt, then lower Egypt. Foreigners are last to this civilization.

@nelsongomez8281 7 месяцев назад

I like so much your video. It's very interesting. There are still many gaps about those protodynastic reigns.

@iHusk 11 месяцев назад

You have to appreciate the sheer volume of Egypts existence when we're discussing how far back a certain civilization goes and the numbers 3,000 and 5,000 years are thrown around as casually as "off by a few decades". It must have been a weird weird feeling waking up in the first day in a post Pharaonic world. Sure by Roman times it was basically an ancient Disneyland but I mean the actual end to the entire idea and world of Khemet, be it native run, Hyksos, Ptolemaic, etc. And compared to when, say, the denizens of Constantinople hearing of the fall of the Western Empire. Or going back further, the folks of Cornwall watching all their Roman friends pack their stuff and leave the island for good. Egypt wasn't so much a nation as a force of human nature in its heyday. Now I'm left to wonder, albeit unrelatedly, if say, Greeks and Romans who adhered to the Isis religion took pilgrimages to Aegyptus like an ancient Hajj.

@doncarlodivargas5497 11 месяцев назад

To be summing up the history of Egypt, they waisted an awful lot of time before they got to build those pyramids

@billybobwombat2231 10 месяцев назад

Thank you 🤙🦘

@greenbuttondown 11 месяцев назад

I will pay for anything predynastic Egypt or early American like Olmec. I love your content and everything you do here.

@WorldofAntiquity 11 месяцев назад

Thanks so much!

@lahaina4791 4 месяца назад

I thought U-239 was a submarine 😅

@mrjones2721 11 месяцев назад

Why do we bother talking about any other pharaohs when there’s one named Scorpion II?

@LyssLiLi 11 месяцев назад

*WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEEEIT*

@stefanalexanderlungu1503 2 месяца назад

Aryan spotted

@lloydgush Месяц назад

@@stefanalexanderlungu1503everyone mocks hottepts, and neo-nazis, so everyone knows the reference. And there's some hindutva who are joining the "we wuz kangs" team as well. Which is why it's important to know the ethnicity of egyptian kings, to the tribe if possible.

@almitrahopkins1873 11 месяцев назад

I wasn’t thinking of aliens or an ancient high-tech civilization. I was actually thinking of where the line is drawn between mythological, legendary and historical. We can use the Iliad and the Odyssey as an example of what may have happened in the pre-dynastic and proto-dynastic period. How many centuries does it take for the historical to slide into the legendary and from the legendary into the mythological? If the notion that theism is simply an expanded form of ancestor worship is correct, how many generations before the first recoded king was it that Osiris was just a man? We have around five millennia of writing, which extends history beyond living memory, but what about the time before that when stories might only be told without being embellished for a generation or two of telling them. How far back do we have to go to find a king Osiris who was killed by his brother and dismembered so that he couldn’t be buried whole for the afterlife? How long after the death of a king by a hippo does it take for a mythological hippo-headed goddess to play a role in the afterlife? At times I wonder if life wouldn’t be easier if I could believe the aliens or ancient high-tech civilization narratives. The people who believe those things tend not to be bothered by a frustrating lack of definitive proof.

@dukeon 11 месяцев назад

One of my very favorite topics! I’m already excited and the video just started 🍿

@walterulasinksi7031 11 месяцев назад

The photo you have used in discussing some of the predynastic kings seem to be wearing the crown of lower Egypt as opposed to the conical one that even Osiris wears from upper Egypt. This leads to a consideration of the two lands before coming under a single rule. From this we can anticipate that “ godly” rule is a notion from upper Egypt. Why this should be can be debated as that Osiris was the son of a Mesopotamian “god” and was given Egypt to rule while his brother Set, was destined to rule the chaos of Mesopotamia. And how did Osiris get to upper Egypt without going through the lower land? It can be considered as just a religious supernatural concept along with the council of demigods.

@ronniesunshine1115 11 месяцев назад

Thanks again for an interesting video. Would you consider doing a video on Nabta Playa and the level of Egyptian astronomical and scientific knowledge up to the Hathor temple at Dendera?

@tkc1129 11 месяцев назад

Alright, my guy, I just need a little plutonium for my time machine and I'll go check it out. I got you.

@poneill65 11 месяцев назад

Aaaaargh, angle your RU-vid mirror award a bit while the ceiling fan is on! Can't focus,... need meds,.. It's,.. Just,.. Like,.. Nam!

@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer 11 месяцев назад

'Saigon, shit. I'm still only in Saigon. Every time I think I'm going to wake up back in the jungle.'

@johnnysmall 11 месяцев назад

Excellent video! I didn’t even know about Scorpion I I’m gonna need to do a deep dive on what’s earlier than the Scorpion II mace. Thank you for this!

@zenosAnalytic 11 месяцев назад

What a great video! Hadn't heard of U-239 before; amazing that the mace-scene potentially goes back that far!

@SonoftheWars 11 месяцев назад

I was so happy to see a new video! I needed my dose of "Believe the experts, everything else is speculation".

@kasturipillay6626 11 месяцев назад

Your content is always tops... ❤👍❤

@mythosboy 11 месяцев назад

One of your best: at least the equal to your wonderful travel guide videos. Makes me wonder at the development of urban settlements from the Badaran on down. Anyway, great channel.

@theredbar-cross8515 11 месяцев назад

So the Scorpion King was real. Do we know if he was jacked and fought an army of demons?

@jamespayne1371 11 месяцев назад

Why do you crush my dreams 😂😂

@ErgoCogita 11 месяцев назад

What are the narrow openings between the chambers @ 11:02 ? They seem like passageways but you would have to turn sideways to pass through.

@MoBahar687 11 месяцев назад

Fascinating! thank you for sharing this knowledge with us !

@thatcanadianwhitetrashguy 10 месяцев назад

I still believe that Most Peoples in the World had some kind of Writing to Communicate Important Messages Over a Distant or Over Time for at least 500,000 yrs. We just haven't found them yet.

@N.Y.C.FreddyBling-z9u Месяц назад

Wrong! *The 1st., human (Male of course!) designated ''king'' of the world was known as: ''King Moronek''!" ADD; Of course ''his'' wife was known as to be called: "Queen Chaotica"~!., ., ERGO: ''Welcome to the commencement progenitors of our ''nutty' human race. WELL? ., Huh? .,

@sergiorodriguezballestero714 11 месяцев назад

Awesomw video as always Dr. Miano, and a very good glimpse over this yet obscure period. Who knows what the new findings will tells us... I only know that to find the tomb of Scorpion II you'll need to go to Ahm Shere... 🤔

@daveandgena3166 11 месяцев назад

I can't help but compare the mace head showing Scorpion opening an irrigation channel to a commemorative plate of some 19th century dignitary opening a bridge!

@DemetriosKongas 17 дней назад

The first kings were chieftains of clans and tribes, elected or selected as leaders in battle or for organising ceremonies. The ceremonial role was more prominent. So there's nothing mysterious about it. What is mysterious about Egyptian civilization is how static it was for so many centuries. Also the monopoly of knowledge by the priesthood.

@hughdidit 25 дней назад

I think what I like most about your blogs David is how well you outline the things about the subject that we don’t know. A very important aspect sadly overlooked by many. Keep up the good work!

@faithlesshound5621 11 месяцев назад

The "exaltation of violence" as an attribute of kingship persists to our own days. Americans recognise their own list of Presidents as starting with George Washington, who was also Commander in Chief. Before him came several Presidents who functioned as the presiding officer of Congress (like the Vice President does now) but were not the commander in chief (Washington had that job). Those predynastic presidents are hardly remembered today. European kings, who served as the model for the US president, usually dress up in military uniforms and may even hold and award each other the highest rank, but are not usually the commander in chief.

@peterfireflylund 11 месяцев назад

The next king of Denmark is a former elite soldier (frogman/battle swimmer) and has high ranks in all three branches of our military. Real ones, but he has probably been over promoted a bit. He is a rear admiral of the navy, a general of the army, and a general of the air force. If you go down 2-3 ranks, you’ll likely get his real level. His elite soldier credentials are absolutely real, though. The navy tried very hard to fail him during his training.

@shae3755 4 месяца назад

Egyptian History Influenced by Greek Civilization during a time Greece didn't exist; How That Work!

@Dwrankoheart 28 дней назад

It's very hard to find artifacts fyom the earlies t E😊😊Egyptian Historey the main reason why is because they don't want people to know about the lies they bern telling people for thousands of years .

@Rhombohedral 20 дней назад

Kingship started with being the King and Queen of shopping luxury goods, who knew🤣

@saulgoodmangaming3460 11 месяцев назад

I am certain that Scorpion was either the eldest brother of Narmer who ruled briefly or even the same person as Narmer.

@loke6664 11 месяцев назад

Some historians think Scorpion II actually was the same person as Narmer... Since we never found his grave I don't think you should be certain, but it is rather likely he was either the father or brother of Narmer. It would be a bit strange if Narmer, Menes and Scorpion II was all the same person though but I could see Scorpion II changing his name to Narmer if he conquered lower Egypt. However, all this is speculations and we can't be 100% sure there wasn't one or even several forgotten rulers between them. My bet would be father or older brother though, but that is still just a guess based on what we know so far. Neither can we be sure Scorpion II ruled briefly.

@saulgoodmangaming3460 11 месяцев назад

@@loke6664 Eh, just a theory of mine since we only have a few artifacts that are associated with scorpion II

@loke6664 11 месяцев назад

@@saulgoodmangaming3460 Yeah, it is certainly plausible but I reacted on the word "certain" and very little is really certain about pre dynastic Egypt. Heck, we don't really have that mush about Narmer either even if it is more then from any pre dynastic Pharaoh. Our best artifact from him is really the Narmer palette which is very helpful and together with an inscription showing Narmer marching towards upper Egypt with his army on a cliff the proof we had Narmer united Egypt. But already there, you can date that changes in culture and artifacts from the same time which helps us immensely.. We need a lot more archaeology focus on early dynastic and pre dynastic Egypt, most of the archaeology have been focused on the old and the new kingdom, already shadowing the middle kingdom and the 2 intermediate periods and far so more the pre dynastic. And some pre dynastic finds have been ignored, like the Kroner pits in Giza that had thousands of artifacts earlier then 4th dynasty, most of them seems to be from 1-3rd dynasty but more then a few could be pre dynastic but never been really well investigated, no one is really interested and a study from 2019 just dug a couple of test pits in the area, didn't found anything before 4th dynasty so they concluded Kroner was wrong without even looking at any of the artifacts he found. Far too few archaeologists are just not interested in anything other then their 2 favorite periods and that makes things a lot harder, all the periods are interesting even if less interesting monuments were built or not.

@saulgoodmangaming3460 11 месяцев назад

@@loke6664 interesting

@yveslegault6825 6 месяцев назад

David Miano is an ancien historian... How about a modern historian view, for a change? Hyeroglyphs in the Seti III temple of Abydos does show a list of the gods who rules Egypt back some 36,000 years before Seti III. Why nobody is talking aboit that wall or even showing it?

@avrywilson577 11 месяцев назад

Nicely done, David. Coveted all the main points. Question: How would rate your hieroglyphs skills?

@rockzalt 2 месяца назад

You mention aliens and extraterrestrials briefly but fail to acknowledge the Hebrew texts that mention the a very real world of the supernatural. "When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God." Deuteronomy 32:8 It's normal to be skeptical about the written record left by the Hebrews that God appeared before Moses face to face in bodily form and set up His plan to be born of a virgin, live among us, die on the cross and resurrect Himself and leave a historical record of his power over death for everyone to read as the world's best selling historical record.

@indigopotatoe 2 месяца назад

I know it's extremely unlikely but I've always thought it would be cool if the period of gods ruling Egypt had a shadow of truth where all the gods were real human rulers that had become mythologized through the millennia.

@Faelani38 6 месяцев назад

I hope we can learn more about the pre dynasty kings. What was Egypt like in the neolithic or mesolithic.

@LJSmith-db2oh Месяц назад

This is giving Alton Brown "Good Eats" vibes!! I loved that show! And I enjoyed this too!

@cameronbartlett6593 6 месяцев назад

Do you know if Menas was a direct decendent of Gozer the Gozerian aka Gozer the Destructor aka Gozer the Traveller? And if so,what was their relationship to Zuul?

@czarcastic1458 7 месяцев назад

Who ruled during Noah's flood era?

@AlbertaGeek 2 месяца назад

Different creationist sources give different time frames for the Noachian myth.

@alntr2872 4 месяца назад

Gods ruled Egypt and they could not write in full sentences. Sometime I wonder if people listen carefully to what they are saying. This kind of reasoning puts the whole video in the suspect category.

@tylerherrera4259 4 месяца назад

I think the host needs to take more of the critical thinking classes he promotes at the beginning of the video and try to eventually learn how to navigate and think through complex problems. He seems only to be able to regurgitate.. I apologize if he’s developmentally disabled

@richardque4952 2 дня назад

Egypt before narmer likely small city state.

@malicant123 Месяц назад

IT's crazy to think that we're discussing someone who lived over five thousand years ago. What could be buried in the past?

@mithunkartha Месяц назад

My granny told me that all the old kingdom pharaohs were eskimos. She said trust me. I do.

@wernerdanler2742 11 месяцев назад

If the gods ruled prior to dynastic Egypt then why are hyroglyphics so undeveloped in this era of protodynastic kings reigns. It seems if they were around for many milenia previous, they would have used a more sophisticated written language for the little people to keep records and all that. It looks like the protodynastic kings were in the copper age, since you mentioned copper and not bronze, so they were only a half step out of the stone age and barely out of the jungles of Africa.

@ilonapugmire6312 4 месяца назад

There is a channel claiming that kings like king Seka etc goes back to around 10.000 bce ......?

@tabsdarby9011 4 месяца назад

That was so interesting, thanks

@faragraf9380 2 дня назад

turn around in Abydos and you stand in front of a list before Menes. Wonder, why this list isnt named by archaeologists. why Diodorus speech isn’t accepted? He was in egypt before every archaeologist. There are vases found, on them names of the first dynasty. So whats with the times before? from whom did the vases and schools, first kings learned, came from? Solon the Greece statesman visited egypt priests 600 BC , became told, that there was a past civilization long before first kings.

@WorldofAntiquity 2 дня назад

All of these questions and concerns are answered in the video. Give it a watch.

@algi1 11 месяцев назад

I think the earliest part of civilization is the most exciting.

@samwill7259 11 месяцев назад

As with every other civilization in human history, Egypt probably started as a bunch of disconnected city states that slowly connected through trade routes and conquest over the course of centuries

@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew 8 месяцев назад

For Egypt it was religious beliefs that connected the people, for Egypt already was rich due to the fertile lands of the river nile, it was foreign conquest that actually spilt ancient Egypt,

@timcarbone007 11 месяцев назад

Great video

@doaessayed7974 3 месяца назад

when are archaeologists going to stop saying the word (pharaoh) ?? I hope it comes before I die.

@timb8970 Месяц назад

Simply amazing how far back Egypt’s history extends. Jesus is a thousand years closer to us than to this Dynasty 0 period.

@WorldofAntiquity Месяц назад

3,000 years

@babasojialaba3893 7 месяцев назад

Good research.Fascinating

@EricBatterson 11 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@WorldofAntiquity 11 месяцев назад

And thank you!

@robertwilkins3167 11 месяцев назад

It's lamentable Manetho's history is lost.

@faithlesshound5621 11 месяцев назад

Dr Miano showed us the Loeb Classical Library edition of Manetho, which collects together those fragments of 8 to 10 books of his which have survived as quotations in others' works, both as the Greek original and translated into English.