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The Secret Behind SRV's Tone 

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Stevie Ray Vaughan's rig is well documented, but no one talks about the effect that gave his guitar tone the movement and width we all know and love: the Roland SDD-320 Dimension D Rack Chorus.
Table of Contents
00:00 Introduction
01:47 The Secret Ingredient
02:36 How SRV Used the Dimension D
03:25 How YOU can Implement It
04:44 The Gear You Need
05:20 "Mary Had a Little Lamb" Example
06:54 "Pride and Joy" Example
09:14 "Let's Dance" Example
12:28 Signal Path (So Far)
13:22 Alternate Signal Path Options
13:52 Signal Path Option #1
15:30 Signal Path Option #2
16:30 Signal Path Option #3
17:44 Our Way vs SRV's Way
19:04 Recap
20:45 Thanks for Watching!
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Host/Co-Production: Mason Marangella
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Video Editing: Victor San Pedro
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@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Which signal path do YOU think most closely resembles SRV's use of the Dimension D? Tell us in the comments below! Table of Contents 00:00 Introduction 01:47 The Secret Ingredient 02:36 How SRV Used the Dimension D 03:25 How YOU can Implement It 04:44 The Gear You Need 05:20 "Mary Had a Little Lamb" Example 06:54 "Pride and Joy" Example 09:14 "Let's Dance" Example 12:28 Signal Path (So Far) 13:22 Alternate Signal Path Options 13:52 Signal Path Option #1 15:30 Signal Path Option #2 16:30 Signal Path Option #3 17:44 Our Way vs SRV's Way 19:04 Recap 20:45 Thanks for Watching!
@MrAbelone
@MrAbelone 2 года назад
Never noticed this effect but hearing it it now. He definitely had the rate/intensity more prominent on Pride.
@billytremoloband7456
@billytremoloband7456 2 года назад
Yea, SRV tone for the win 🤜
@billytremoloband7456
@billytremoloband7456 2 года назад
Dc2w, tc nova drive and source audio collider set to plate gets a good bit of the way for the first album sound 100% , I use the distortion side of the tc with very low gain to get a bit of faux pre amp drive with the ts side before it to emulate the tube screamer! It sounds great into a superreverb and bandmaster with sping verb off!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@MrAbelone For sure!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@billytremoloband7456 Yes!!!
@Texasbluesalley
@Texasbluesalley 2 года назад
Ok... I've been studying Stevie's playing and tone for 25 years and I always thought I heard a subtle chorusing effect on those studio recordings but never heard this mentioned in descriptions of his rigs. NOW I KNOW I'M NOT CRAZY.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You're not crazy! It's there! Big thing when implementing chorus into your SRV rig is to do in in parallel after the mic'd dry amp, otherwise it's too intense as I demonstrated when the chorus was in the FX Loop in series.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@NTPL Worship oh man...it'd be our honor!
@Starch1b2c3d4a
@Starch1b2c3d4a 2 года назад
@NTPL Worship That would be epic 🙌
@Texasbluesalley
@Texasbluesalley 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I'm in.
@soundknight
@soundknight 2 года назад
I always thought that too.
@jamesbenoit5252
@jamesbenoit5252 2 года назад
Great video! Texan here, we were turned on to SRV a tad earlier than the wider world. Saw him multiple times in various venues. Mesmerizing. Stevie's "Mary Had a Little Lamb" pays homage to the great Buddy Guy. BG is a national treasure, GO SEE HIM NOW, before he leaves us. Hendrix, SRV, many blues greats are disciples. Thx!
@m0j0b0ne
@m0j0b0ne 2 года назад
I saw Buddy, Stevie, Duke Robillard, Brian Setzer and BB King at the same fest; wanna know who stole the show? Buddy. I didn't think anybody could follow Stevie, but it turned out even BB couldn't follow Buddy Guy.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Sure, but without the Nursery Rhyme, there's not song, he's doing Buddy's arrangement of an old song. SRV had many inspirations, just as the opening riff "Hideaway" was played by Freddie King, but done in the SRV way of playing it.
@jamesbenoit5252
@jamesbenoit5252 2 года назад
Lol. Of course the nursery rhyme came first, but what a cool adaption, huh? Vaguely reminds me of an interview with Tony Iommi, speaking of Ronnie James Dio. Tony said Geezer told Dio at some point "no more dragons, wizads and shit." I dunno, though - that was Ronnie's lyrical stock in trade.
@burtsbass1
@burtsbass1 Год назад
Great info thanks for sharing. SRV choice of string gauge was also a big part of his sound, using .013 - .062 and even .014 - 068. I often wish that he still with us was. I went to 4 of his shows in 1983, 1985, 1986 and 1988. I still get goosebumps just thinking about it.
@WayneMemphisMojo
@WayneMemphisMojo 2 года назад
it's always an informative adventure watching your videos Mason, I appreciate the work you put into bring these to us.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you like them!
@joerobinson2538
@joerobinson2538 2 года назад
I got my DC-2w last year and was immediately blown away. If you use it on one of its highest wet settings, you get Steve Steven’s Flesh For Fantasy sound. He used the rack unit extensively in his 80’s studio recordings. I have it on all the time on setting 1 and use buttons 3 and 4 (you can use 2 buttons if pressed at the same time) when I need a very wet chorus sound (like in Purple Rain). Thanks Mason for the awesome information!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Good call! Be sure to try it in the parallel context as we did here and SRV did after the dry amp and mic and then blended in parallel with the dry. Helps keep it subtle. This is also how Steve Stevens used it on the Billy Idol stuff.
@JC3D
@JC3D 2 года назад
Fired up my Axe FX III and found the dimension chorus in there - I was amazed A and Bing soloing with and without it on. Never have I ever thought to use chorus on lead guitar - only ever used it messing around with Come as You Are - thanks man! Very enlightening!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Great to hear! Make sure you run it in parallel, very easy to do in the Axe software!
@danielfrabotta5501
@danielfrabotta5501 2 года назад
It really is surprising how different the parallel methods sound compared to simply running it into the loop. It was night and day for this. Great video once again!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes, the magic is really in having a subtle chorus but in parallel, no series like most people would run it.
@Souldoubtrocks
@Souldoubtrocks Год назад
I was on the fence on getting this pedal. I finally pulled the trigger and couldn’t be happier
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
It's SOOOO good!
@joshuapark1749
@joshuapark1749 2 года назад
Love the back lighting and the excellent playing. Superb tone bro. 👏
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@MarcusLee-pu8lk
@MarcusLee-pu8lk Год назад
Great video, I love hearing about how Stevie Ray put his Dimension-D all over these tracks!
@ClownOnVacation
@ClownOnVacation 2 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to teach us. You invest a lot of hours into production and editing to educate us in a minimal amount of time.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I appreciate that!
@keithlabonte2547
@keithlabonte2547 2 года назад
Much Love! Great info, as always!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@tomt55
@tomt55 2 года назад
Interesting video. The dimension chorus effect that SRV used was quite subtle, but it did add some cool under the radar modulation that was a nice addition to his tone. Thanks for posting!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes indeed! You're welcome!
@tomt55
@tomt55 2 года назад
I have a Wampler Terraform, it has a dimension setting next to the regular chorus setting. I'll be sure to horse around with it some and see if there are some worthwhile tones there.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@tomt55 Yes, the main thing is running it in parallel like we did here.
@gregmorgan9564
@gregmorgan9564 2 года назад
Awesome video thanks. You always have insights that no other tuber has. Great playing by the way.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@GuitarTabsDaily
@GuitarTabsDaily 2 года назад
This was awesome. Thanks dudes 🤘🤘🤘
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tonya4157
@tonya4157 2 года назад
Damn, rough day man. Fuck em. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!!!
@jwvanhorn
@jwvanhorn 2 года назад
Great video! I can definitely use this to fatten up my strat sounds. I'm going to see what I can come up with using the Helix and running their Dimension model in parallel. Thanks Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Got for it! Hope the video helps!
@Nitsua_Atayha
@Nitsua_Atayha Год назад
Finally someone talks about the chorus effect! I’ve been saying this for years.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Yes!!!
@jburdsinfuse
@jburdsinfuse 2 года назад
I LOVE your content...really great. I play live and ALWAYS have a chorus happening. Especially with my Strat; it sounds naked without it.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Then you're in good company :)
@curlyfryexperience
@curlyfryexperience 2 года назад
Such a good video, it’s crazy how much better it sounds run post mic than anywhere in line.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Totally agree!
@Stereostupid
@Stereostupid 2 года назад
Wow you're getting a lot better!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@markntexas8265
@markntexas8265 2 года назад
I am going to have to rewatch this many times thank you so much
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@LuisCaballero
@LuisCaballero 2 года назад
What a great video Mason! Thanks!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@francescomolinari4524
@francescomolinari4524 Год назад
grande mason,come sempre grande spiegazione! ottimo tono,molto fedele all originale di stevie!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@chrissterrmusic
@chrissterrmusic 2 года назад
Nailed it. I remember listening to his studio stuff and realizing that there was something else there… a kind of “shimmering” effect that was so subtle that you couldn’t put your finger on but you knew was there. I read about this a couple years ago and have been getting close with just keeping the mix on whatever chorus I’d be using down to 20% or so… I’d gotten real close with a Dimension patch from a MD-500 and close-ish with my Julianna chorus. Really great info here, man! Thx!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!!!
@Watergrovey
@Watergrovey 2 года назад
You’re killing me, Mason! Now I need a DC-2w! Great video, BTW!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You'll love this pedal!
@johngrasso1483
@johngrasso1483 2 года назад
Just buy a Fulltone Dejavibe. It’s got chorus and vibrato settings and you can set the intensity. Amazing pedal! It’ll cover a lot more ground for srv & Hendrix tones.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@johngrasso1483 no, it's nothing like this or the way SRV ran the chorus effect.
@kindofblue85
@kindofblue85 2 года назад
It’s nice see you play finally :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I've been playing in many of these videos over the last few months! Check out the Reverb placement, Delay placement, and Fender Hot Rod ML videos. I play in all of them :)
@papadavewatson
@papadavewatson Год назад
The most valuable info I have gathered is to have a Fender blackface amp cranked to breakup, a Strat running through a TS with volume high, gain low. This seems like a missing piece of the puzzle that no one talks about. Might have to try it. Thanks for the info!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Yes, definitely an overlooked element.
@boxerfencer
@boxerfencer 11 месяцев назад
I loved that guitar sound on Let's Dance, but never knew how it was accomplished.
@anthonyrussell4888
@anthonyrussell4888 11 месяцев назад
Yes. 😊
@jr0706
@jr0706 2 года назад
Great video! I have a Line 6 M5, and it has a Dimension model on it. It also has a level, which gets closer to that light level running after the amp mic has. Also just love simple chorus.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing!
@jacobpetersen5662
@jacobpetersen5662 2 года назад
100% agree. I got the Waza 2 years ago. It sounds stellar!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Wish I had you as our SRV for this demo Jacob! It's a great pedal, tried to do it justice :)
@ecrecords615
@ecrecords615 2 года назад
While it's known that SRV tuned down to Eb, I feel it's often overlooked what a tonal difference that half step makes! Fatter tone, makes the amp break up quicker, even makes you play different with the slinkier tension for expressive bends and big vibrato. Think of Hendrix too, or even Albert King with the extra slinkiness!
@sandyturner1911
@sandyturner1911 2 года назад
Once I started tuning to Eb, it has become my favorite way to play. Standard tuning doesn't sound right to me, now. It feels better, too.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Eb is how Strat's are meant to be played...As GOD intended :)
@theirritatedirishman5440
@theirritatedirishman5440 2 года назад
1/2 step down just sounds bluseier especially when playing pentatonic scales. Stevie’s Strat was anything but slinky feeling believe me. He had for the longest time 13 high E thicker going up. On top of his GHS strings which are bright and steel. He liked a little give in the sound but not mushy so that’s why he moved from JBL’s to EV Forces. The Forces were softer and gave a little unlike an EVM would or JBL E series plus the JBL’s have a bright snap to them. So those speakers in conjunction with the tube rectified Super Reverbs and Vibroverb became his stage sound. He also loved his 50 Watt Marshall head he had and sometimes Plexi. He did try 11’s towards the end and even had 9’s on one Strat. I think had he been around still and used 11’s down a 1/2 step and maybe switched to Ernie Ball Nickel Slinky’s, that would’ve been magical! He had really strong fucking hands!
@boxerfencer
@boxerfencer 11 месяцев назад
Theresa no slinkiness with the gauges SRV used. And as someone who's played with thicker gauges for years, I can tell you it's not the tuning that makes the amp breakup sooner.
@TheDilligan
@TheDilligan Год назад
Ive never dived in deep on Stevie Ray Vaughans actual gear. But I know that every time I've personally attempted his, I've always thrown a subtle chorus on. (Also 80s era Clapton tones). It's really the thing that separates his sound from all the other classic blues guys.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
SRV is one of the best...his gear is often oversimplified however.
@srficarra
@srficarra 2 года назад
Enjoyed the vid man. Myself, like most guitarist, have dove into trying to dial in Stevie’s tone through the years. Particularly his “Texas flood” and “El mocambo” tones. I’ve never heard anybody suggest using a chorus on his studio tone but I stumbled across using one for playing “little wing” years ago and then I started using it for a lot of his other stuff. The key is you want it to be subtle and using a parallel fx loop set about 50/50 wet/dry is a good place to start. There’s definitely movement in his early studio tone and I found a subtle chorus gets me there with ease but you definitely want some of your tone left dry. Not only does it add a little movement and depth but it gives it a little sparkle too. But if it’s obvious you’re using a chorus then you’re using too much. Thanks for reassuring me that my ears aren’t playing games with me. Subbed
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! I agree parallel is the key!
@atanastsvetkov1530
@atanastsvetkov1530 2 года назад
Very interesting. Now that you have highlighted it the chorus is definitely there in the SRV studio sound but very subtle. I am not surprised as the chorus was the 80s effect and basically everyone was using a chorus one way or another. Very expensive to replicate the right way as you have suggested it but it does sound very close!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@ILuvJazzNJava
@ILuvJazzNJava 2 года назад
This is awesome 👏. Thanks so much for explaining this.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you dig it!
@elikipreos9007
@elikipreos9007 2 года назад
Thanx...good to know Love all things Stevie!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching Eli, glad you enjoyed the video!
@danielmiller2886
@danielmiller2886 2 года назад
27 years ago when I niavely asked my guitar teacher how to copy SRV's sound, he literally chuckled and said "well, good luck with that"! Also, I appreciate your clean playing. Many people really over do it when playing SRV licks and just sound messy. You executed them well.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
At least you'll have the right gear ;)
@jedishaw6771
@jedishaw6771 2 года назад
Great video! Never heard anyone talk about this before.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@keithplunk6611
@keithplunk6611 6 месяцев назад
This is wild because I run my dunlop univibe on vibrato mode just barely and get this killer vibe too. It's there but it's not there ya know. Also, my pedal graphic in front of the univibe gives it a nasty stink on my Stratocaster. Drive almost off...but gain cranked just enough to 😂 zone the amplifier. Also, don't forget to roll off the tone & volume knobs on your axe to tastefully get it right. It is a beautiful thing...thanks for sharing your knowledge with everyone. It is very unselfish and nice! 👍
@beachcomber4141
@beachcomber4141 4 месяца назад
Ahh this is so cool. I always heard SOMETHING different with his recordings like Pride and Joy. There is a barely noticeable swirl to the sound that gave it an edge I could never put my finger on. I am so surprised that it has taken this long to find out what that missing ingredient was.
@ANIMLFIRE
@ANIMLFIRE Месяц назад
Dumble?
@bnastali
@bnastali 2 года назад
Super detailed explanation of the SRV tone! Subtle modulation is clear as day. Now, if I just had his touch, tone and taste...
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Don't we all wish we had that RE touch, tone, and taste!
@shredbot65
@shredbot65 2 года назад
Not to mention his other worldly STRENGTH
@bnastali
@bnastali 2 года назад
@@shredbot65 So I've heard!
@SeanPierceJohnson
@SeanPierceJohnson 2 года назад
Dude! The DC-2w is ABSOLUTELY STELLAR. It is such a lovely sound and if you haven’t understood how powerful a stereo setup for modulation can be, this will blow your mind! Probably in my top 10 pedals of all time. Probably, IDK. Good stuff Rig Doctor! 👍
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks Dr. Johnson :). I concur...great pedal!
@NJSonye
@NJSonye 2 года назад
I ran a wet/dry tig based on all rack efx, stereo power, and a stereo 4X12, which was split vertically. Some FOH mixers “got it” and some didn’t. I Loved it. It just became impractical.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@NJSonye some FOH folks can't handle the Wet/Dry rigs!
@NJSonye
@NJSonye 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Moral of the story, make life easy on the FOH engineers.
@kellyjandrews
@kellyjandrews 10 месяцев назад
So glad I found this video 🤘🥳
@flanderstractor5863
@flanderstractor5863 2 года назад
Hi Mason, cool video and nice playing too !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Wow! Thanks!
@clownhands
@clownhands 2 года назад
Dude! I recently bought the Waza pedal to help get an 80s Clapton 24 nights sound going. I can’t wait to try it in an SRV vibe context!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes! Go for it!!!
@EJ_Crough
@EJ_Crough Год назад
Nice playing on this vid!
@stephenperry6024
@stephenperry6024 2 года назад
The Roland Dimension D is mentioned in Andy Aledorts book "Play Like Stevie Ray Vaughan", it says the D was used in the studio recordings of Texas Flood and others, most notably "Mary Had A Little Lamb", "Texas Flood", "Couldn't Stand The Weather", and the end solo on "Pride & Joy". During the mixdown, according to engineer/producer Richard Mullen, Stevie would sit at the board and bring the delay/chorus effect of the D in and out as the song progressed, he liked the "growl" sound and the stereo phasing effects it brought.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
That's great, hopefully this video takes it further to 1) Show the isolated tracks with the chorus on it, and 2) show regular guitar players to how to implement this parallel set up on their rigs at home.
@SkyRiderJavelin
@SkyRiderJavelin 2 года назад
great video, sounded just like SRV thanks for demystifying the great sound he had
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
So glad you dig it!
@SilverParatrooper
@SilverParatrooper 2 года назад
Cool video I just wish it was able to sound like that in the effects loop. This totally shows you that signal path plays a huge role in getting the sound you want.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
For sure...another way is to put it in a mixer in the effects loop so you can blend it with the clean signal. That would help put it closer to what you heard in the other examples. Something like an Xotic X Blender or OBNE Signal Blender.
@josephdimalante7023
@josephdimalante7023 Год назад
I just bought one used after seeing this Thanks!
@dannyllerenatv8635
@dannyllerenatv8635 2 года назад
The boss DC2W is a wonderful chorus pedal. One of my personal favorites is the Maxon ASC10. It's simple, small enclosure, lush, and it can also do some spot on Leslie sounds.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Nice!!!
@GazMoz78
@GazMoz78 2 года назад
Absolutely love that Rory Strat 😍
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
It's a great one :)
@peteytwofinger
@peteytwofinger 2 года назад
Saw him perform live , incredible talent he was .
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I bet!
@Maxshade7
@Maxshade7 2 года назад
This is really cool!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@jamesrobinson529
@jamesrobinson529 2 года назад
I wonder if SRV used chorus that way in order to slightly emulate Albert King. Albert King's tone definitely has a beautifully used phaser effect. I'd like to see a video on how to get an Albert King tone. I personally, never realized that SRV used chorus! Thanks for sharing your knowledge of SRV's tone!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I think it’s possible for sure
@18JR78
@18JR78 2 года назад
Wow. The final ingredient is here. Thx.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Hope you enjoy
@michaelcottle6270
@michaelcottle6270 2 года назад
I fell into this rig by accident in the 80s. I had a little 6:2 mixer and I sent the guitar signal out to a Dimension C and panned the two returns hard L/R
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Nice!
@travisdahl
@travisdahl 2 года назад
Nice! Long time SRV fan and never even crossed my mind. Totally hear it though.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes indeed...I didn't realize it until a month ago either!
@thomaswalz3515
@thomaswalz3515 2 года назад
In that Let's Dance clip, SRV rips Albert King so well. No wonder Albert called SRV "my son." I don't want to be a SRV clone, but I learned a lot from this vid, and most of your vids. Thanks Mason.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@tszegvary
@tszegvary 2 года назад
Great video, thanks Mason. I tried to replicate the tone for live sounds using a TheGigRig Wetterbox and mix in my MIJ CE-2 Chorus in parallel to my dry signal , which is going through a Gladio SC for the Dumble sound. The signal then hits my DRVB. Gets pretty close as well, but I never would have thought about this without your video!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Also try it after your Deluxe Reverb output transformer with a line out box and really get close :)
@tszegvary
@tszegvary 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Not sure if I understood the line out thing. Is the line out just between speaker and amp? So would I put the LO box between amp and speaker? Doesn't this fry the pedal?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@tszegvary you would connected between the speaker jack on your amp and the speaker itself. It's a passive box that takes a tap off the output transformer and provides you another output (like an FX send of sorts from an amplifier FX loop), and allow you to feed pedals for a parallel path. That's what we did in this video.
@tszegvary
@tszegvary 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Ah got it! Thanks for the details. I saw those line out boxes are quite cheap to get, will definitely try this!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@tszegvary do you have an interface to feed the chorus into?
@blindboydevita3663
@blindboydevita3663 2 года назад
mind blowing video! I completely agree on what you have shown here :-)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@glenfougeron2823
@glenfougeron2823 2 года назад
Killer video, Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching Glen!
@sseltrek1a2b
@sseltrek1a2b 2 года назад
adding some kind of subtle chorusing is a great way to fatten your sound...really interesting vid...
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes! And the X factor here was that the chorus was in parallel after the dry amp. That helps you keep the subtlety intact. You can hear how it was much less subtle when we used it in series in the effects loop.
@Indiecovers1985
@Indiecovers1985 2 года назад
I own the boss dc2w, totally recommend it even if you have very chorus under the sun.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Agreed 100 percent
@izzyfontaine
@izzyfontaine 2 года назад
dimension is one of the most important effects that people skip over, assuming it’s chorus. stoked to see you spreading the gospel!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@lostindixie764
@lostindixie764 2 года назад
I like how you start by saying it's a simple setup then when you go through it it's like explaining the math required for space travel. Killing me man.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
If you can thing of how to do it with fewer moving parts, I'm all ears :)
@spakuloid
@spakuloid 2 года назад
Great video!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@eddiejr540
@eddiejr540 2 года назад
And all this time I thought the “tone” was in Stevie’s hands...just goes to show ya what I know....excellent vid my brother!!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Hands can't create chorus acoustically.
@theirritatedirishman5440
@theirritatedirishman5440 2 года назад
Great video brother
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks so much for watching!
@MoggioMTB
@MoggioMTB 2 года назад
Thanks for pointing this out.. good stuff. In the 80s we all went deaf to the chorus effect and everyone got carried away with it and it just became awful. It sounds so great on this early SRV stuff just used in such a subtle manner though I do think later in there was a bit too much used on some of his later recordings. Its almost with chorus a case of just turn it on enough that you just begin to notice it then stop!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
The parallel application is really key to keep it subtle.
@dstrats
@dstrats 2 года назад
How in the world did you and your team figure that ingredient out!? Wow! Thank you for this! Lol
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
First we had some iso'd tracks of SRV that we were listening to, noticed the warble, and then searched for what it was an landed on the Dimension D in the SRV archives as reported by the engineers of Let's Dance, Texas Flood, and Couldn't Stand the Weather.
@michaelwangler7509
@michaelwangler7509 Год назад
That's so, So, SO.... freakin CooL !!! 😎 I would have NEVER guessed in a million years that Stevie would have used this sort of effect. 🤔 Really !!! 🙄 *So Much So... that when I really became interested in "Blues Music" I pulled my Dimension-C from my makeshift pedal board thinking it was useless for this genre. 😖 *Well... I guess I should be thankful that it was an old Dimension-C without the "D" mode. 😌 But now I GOTTA go out and GITTME the new version !! 🤣 Thank You for the video and the information. 😉 WoW! 😮 Who Knew ???
@desimonenoah
@desimonenoah 2 года назад
Nice stuff!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@thomasnolde2691
@thomasnolde2691 Год назад
The fingers a the singers that's the secret of Stevie's Tone ☝️💜
@theirritatedirishman5440
@theirritatedirishman5440 2 года назад
This is true. Stevie and I became very tight in February or 1987 and stayed tight till he passed. Stevie at one point also played through an ART Powerplant preamp on a couple recordings. He also had a treble booster that Cesar Diaz made for him but used it seldom. He hardly used those big Dumbles, because they were too clean and unreliable. I traded him a Blackface Bassman piggy back setup for a 68’ Blonde Tele someone gave him. He loved Telecasters too but wanted that Trem bar so went with Strats.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Interesting! Wow!
@dml510
@dml510 6 месяцев назад
I just assumed it was the reverb turned up on his amp but this is crazy interesting.
@goldenlightchild4861
@goldenlightchild4861 2 года назад
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You're welcome!
@forrestkunkel880
@forrestkunkel880 2 года назад
I had a DC-2W for a minute. It was a fantastic pedal, but it didn't have much control over the level of effect. I found the Walrus Julia to be a close-ish approximation, given the d-c-v control to bring in some dry signal.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Nice!
@MitchRossMusician
@MitchRossMusician 2 года назад
Well done.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@Can.M.
@Can.M. 2 года назад
I know this unit for few years, it's not a big surprise for me but you're right that some people don't pay too much attention :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Most people know this pedal, but not in the context of Stevie Ray Vaughan. It's a great pedal no doubt!
@Can.M.
@Can.M. 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc What do you think about the Klark Teknik Third Dimension BBD-320? Have you ever tried it? Thanks in advance :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@Can.M. I checked it out today, looks interesting, the price is right for sure.
@user-tj7vm9yl8b
@user-tj7vm9yl8b 5 месяцев назад
In the Dirty Pool Live In Tokyo concert, it's very present this effects in the final sound of guitar
@ScotianBlooded
@ScotianBlooded Год назад
That rory strat though 👌
@1mespud
@1mespud 2 года назад
That's SRV channeling Albert King on that "Let's Dance" solo @ 10:00.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Yes! 100%
@musicbinderpro8903
@musicbinderpro8903 Год назад
Wonderful! 👍 👍 👍
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Thanks for the visit! Hope we earn your subscription!
@liamtahaney713
@liamtahaney713 2 года назад
I have always heard this, subtle chorus really adds a lot, especially with 1 guitar. I heard more high end in SRVs tone too, maybe less mids, but certainly nails the "vibe" (that's the wrong modulation though haha)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
It's a great tone!
@jeffreyziemba5588
@jeffreyziemba5588 4 месяца назад
Mason, you should do an ej acl 88 or the total electric guitar instructional video. His best tone imo. Maybe he is using a dimension d at the desk. Maybe it’s something Richard mullen used for srv and ej? His lead and dumble definitely have some kinda modulation on it. Very evident with headphones. Thanks for doing these Mason!
@m0j0b0ne
@m0j0b0ne 2 года назад
Klark-Teknik makes a rack version of the dimensional chorus, it's currently $149 at Sweetwater. I thought it was widely known that SRV used a TC Electronic Stereo Chorus+ Pitch/Flanger to split his signal when he started using multiple amps on the gig. (I'm pretty sure there are pics) A more pedalboard-friendly re-issue is due any minute, minus the AC cord and for a very friendly price, compared to the vintage ones.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I've not seen photos of the Stereo Chorus from TC being used, but I also feel like those are too bright compared to the Dimension D and or DC-2W. I own several original TC's and Boss DC-2's. The Klark-Teknik looks cool!
@mauromeglii493
@mauromeglii493 Год назад
To me the SRV's secret sound is in the yours hands,nothing versus you boys,but this is my idea!A salute from Italy!😊✌
@liammcgrath8076
@liammcgrath8076 2 года назад
This is brilliantly done, much appreciated! What do you think about coming out of a Strymon timeline (stereo)with two leads and then putting one signal path through the Dimension C and then into a parallel blending box and the other signal directly into the parallel blending box and then out into the amp. The idea being to regulate the amount of effect in the ultimate signal? Cheers mate, killer as always!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I think you'd be better off putting the Strymon after the preamp section and running it in parallel or running it after the mic as an aux send. The parallel mixer isn't going to do much if it's still in series in front of the preamp to get this sound.
@AnthonyJarrah
@AnthonyJarrah Год назад
Wish you would have added another option running the Dimension C in front of the amp in a normal pedalboard setup just so we could hear the difference. Many people don't have a recording setup or effects loop and it would be nice to know if they could get a close sound running it before the amp. Maybe it wouldn't work but it would have been nice to see if that could have been a practical option even if it only gets you 70% there. I guess we'll never know. Anyway thanks for the demo.
@mikedenson1589
@mikedenson1589 2 года назад
Always ended up back to my tube screamer. Over 40 years playing. Start about one half all settings. Dynamic sound.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Nothing in this video disqualifies that, but adds to what will get you all the way there. Be sure to watch it through to see what I mean.
@ichisatori
@ichisatori 2 года назад
where was SRV’s chorus live? …i too … once in ‘79?… after discovering chorus … trying to emulate Metheny’s 3 amp setup with Primetimes… a simple Guyatone chorus on 99.5% of the time… (only cut briefly for a spike in a sustained solo note)… i discovered i needed 2 choruses… one for “more effect” … but the first one was the secret weapon. key word: subtle. … i did this test to many people: they wouldn’t know it was on until i turned it off. depending on your ax and your amp, you can kinda cover up that STRAIGHT sound without the pedal, but takes some Bill Frissell level finesse. ;)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Live I suspect this was either absent or more Leslie potentially.
@strangequark420
@strangequark420 2 года назад
Wow, I had no idea. Well, I have a Strat, a TS9, a Deville, and a Dimension-C Waza ... but I just know I ain't gonna do it justice when I try!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Just make sure you'd doing the parallel thing with the chorus after the preamp with its own bath to the mixer. That's the real trick, the chorus you use is less important than the signal path.
@Alexaxe333
@Alexaxe333 Год назад
That's very interesting. When I saw Johnny Winter live, a while back, guitarist Paul Nelson warmed up the crowd with Johnny's band. He had two Fender Super Reverbs, a pedalboard that was the size of a small Indian rug, and a Strat. He sounded great, I think he was running two differently timed subtle delays. It was a big sound to say the least. Then out comes Johnny with his Erlwine Guitar, a Musicman HD130 amp and no pedals and the sound is even bigger. How is this possible? As I got closer to the stage I noticed that Johnny was in fact running through a pedal, hidden just behind a monitor. I had to find out what this killer overdrive was because the tone was fat, 3D and just amazing. I finally nudged my way to the front and much to my surprise it was not an overdrive at all it was a Boss chorus (what the hell?) with the chorus set almost off, not enough to make a chorus effect but just enough to thicken the tone and give it a little warble.The volume appeared to be past unity and maybe boosting the signal but I'm not 100% sure. I didn't know Stevie was doing something similar so, thanks Mason for this informative vid. I've only done one studio project but I'm starting to realize that the real Kings of Blues tone, it seems, are doing it with a big clean tone first and this is where your SRV pedal would really come in handy, then maybe a little OD on top. I was once guilty of thinking, like a lot of beginners, that the only important component to great tone is your overdrive pedal gain staging and there is a lot more to it than that as you so aptly point out.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Thanks for watching and the comment!
@jordaniezzi8617
@jordaniezzi8617 2 года назад
I am pretty sure in a premier guitar interview Johnny Winter also said he always leaves a little chorus on in his live rig.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
He did, but not in parallel after the mic like SRV.
@jk-76
@jk-76 2 года назад
You really got that sound. I wonder what that chorus woud do for other sounds like higher gain, surf music or jazz.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Worth a try to find out :)
@totc6196
@totc6196 2 года назад
This is bang on man thanks for the amazing discovery! Is it the 1 2 or 3 ? on the dimension d?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching, I suspect 1
@totc6196
@totc6196 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks man
@billnelson9413
@billnelson9413 2 года назад
I want this sound live so I’m going to try it with a wet dry two amp set up. Right now I use a very subtle warm chorus sound through both amps on some songs. I know it’s there but most wouldn’t notice.
@billnelson9413
@billnelson9413 2 года назад
Sometimes I use a little bit of modulated reverb through both amps from a Boss RV-5
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
The main thing is separating the chorus in parallel with the dry path. I think that's more important than getting the exact right chorus circuit.
@billnelson9413
@billnelson9413 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc after watching this video I think so too. That’s what makes it sound bigger and lush. I have been a fan of the Dimension D from the John Jorgensen style. I didn’t realize Stevie was using that. It is a nice circuit. I don’t want to copy Stevie exactly but I definitely point back to him often while running with it to somewhere else. I steal a lot from Jimmie too.
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