The Truth About Reverb Pedal Placement

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Today, I'm shining a light on factors that are largely omitted from the public discussion on reverb pedal placement.
Where do you place your reverb pedals in your signal path, and why? Tell us in the comments below!
Table of Contents:
00:00 Introduction
00:26 What's Missing from the Reverb Discussion?
01:29 The Truth about Spring Reverb
06:20 Spring Reverb Placement Audio Examples
08:36 The Truth about Incorporating Delay and Reverb
10:47 Reverb & Delay in Parallel Audio Example
11:56 Parallel Wet FX Signal Path
12:35 The Truth about Delay & Reverb Pedal Order
13:54 Delay & Reverb Placement Audio Examples
16:44 Conclusion
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@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Where do you place your reverb pedals in your signal path, and why? Tell us in the comments below! Table of Contents: 00:00 Introduction 00:26 What's Missing from the Reverb Discussion? 01:29 The Truth about Spring Reverb 06:20 Spring Reverb Placement Audio Examples 08:36 The Truth about Incorporating Delay and Reverb 10:47 Reverb & Delay in Parallel Audio Example 11:56 Parallel Wet FX Signal Path 12:35 The Truth about Delay & Reverb Pedal Order 13:54 Delay & Reverb Placement Audio Examples 16:44 Conclusion

@loveforallbxlmannif 2 года назад

Before the amp for convenience but, the preamp is very transparent and do not so much change the sound. (well i use a bass amp, modern Rumble fender. there's a loop but with to much volume for the Headroom spring)

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

@@loveforallbxlmannif there's going to be the most color in the preamp than any position in the amplifier. If you want it to sound like an amp spring reverb, the loop is the place if accuracy is the key factor.

@jimi272 2 года назад

i'm actually using reverb and delay in the loop. I, when i built my Board, thought about the reverb and delay order that way: when you want a room /slapback sound, the reverb mostly is bypassed or only the reverb is running. Using both, a room reverb and a slapjack delay at the same time, gives a cool effect, but also there: if the delay is short, and feeding into the room reverb, you have a room, and then you have a second room created by the delay that feeds into the reverb. so you end up with "twice" the room as if you use reverb before delay. same goes for longer delays: if you have a long hall reverb creating a space, and you have a delay afterwords, it will just repeat this hall space. but if you put the delay in front of the reverb, its like playing multiple notes into the hall space, which can make the space overcrowded. my opinion for pedalboards is that with delay after reverb, you get a much cleaner reverb that doesn't get muddy so quick, because it hasn't so much "gain" done by the repeats of the delay feeding into it. of course sometimes in some moody situations, where you want multiple guitars simulated with a delay, it can make sense to put it in front. But mostly, i end up preferring delay after reverb. Thats my thoughts, greetings Jonathan

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

@@jimi272 all valid!

@paristhalheimer 2 года назад

I place guitar, delay, reverb into amp.

@juanfichtl2011 2 года назад

Reverb before metalzone

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Go for it!

@brian1749 2 года назад

Who needs Reverb when you've got a Metal Zone? Just run a Metal Zone into a Metal Zone and you've got the ultimate TONE!!!

@andrewwebb604 5 месяцев назад

Metal Zone, Reverb. Metal Zone

@devarmont87 4 месяца назад

Metal zone -> reverb -> vol 11

@sdriza 3 месяца назад

MetalZone>MetalZone>MetalZone (can never have enough....)

@danieliger 2 года назад

I deliberately put reverb before drive. As soon as compact reverb pedals were available in the 80s new waver punk rockers put them in front of fuzz. It’s a big part of the shoe gaze dream pop sound. Not wrong, just different.

@fallenshallrise 2 года назад

Reverb first is "wrong" but it's so, so good. A lot of my boards have reverb first or just after the tuner.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

totally not wrong, personal preference is always the first priority.

@Bilsuburbians 2 года назад

Yes its part of the essentials in Shoegaze scene. Much reverb and fuzz

@jarcidiacono1 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc would you drop tremolo in the effects loop too? Wondering if I try that

@nedim_guitar 2 года назад

@@jarcidiacono1 I have had the tremolo after overdrive pedals, in the FX loop. It's cleaner in the loop, but it didn't sound bad after overdrive. Nowadays I don't even use the FX loop, I just put my whole chain into the front of the amp. It's fun to switch around.

@_left_eye 5 месяцев назад

Ain’t it cool how many pieces of gear we need today to reproduce a modest sounding version of songs that were actually recorded with a guitar, a cable and an amp?

@christopherrusch 2 года назад

classical. i saw bach’s equipboard, he apparently frequently used the catalin bread topanga

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Huh?

@adrianfripp404 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc He's teasing you for saying "classical" when you meant "classic" 1:10. Fair enough for a guy who uses words like "disaggregated". (wink) Not dissing you, though. Like your vids.

@timharrington4470 2 года назад

I always learn something every time I watch your videos. They motivate people to try different things which is important. My favorite sound was parallel Reverb and delay. Will definitely be trying Reverb into delay to see the difference. You rock!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

You are so welcome!

@jeffbeck5089 2 года назад

I use a simple formula. Tone, frequency, time. Example: Guitar , OD, Chorus, Delay into the amp. Simplistic, perhaps, but it works

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Sounds good!

@robertbmxpa 2 года назад

Bravo. Bringing new light to what may otherwise seem a well known, simple topic. Really picked-up where the old conversation of "where do I place my reverb" typically ends, and took off with some in depth exploration. Very nice. I especially appreciate your responses in the comments. Very professional, and top notch!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@eddlabel 2 года назад

In terms of Delay and Reverb, the ideal would be to have them always in parallel. However, we simple humans, pedalboard users, to avoid the mess of the Reverb being repeated in our Delay, go for the common sense order... It's a very good time we are living in with all these gear to mess around with preamp, power amp, effects, different signals, without having to be in a large studio. Great video!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@rndm7528 Год назад

I like to play ambient sometimes , so what i do is i run my Big Sky or Boss Tera Echo with a long reverb before a phase 90 or a flanger and sometimes i stick a couple of delay pedals after those. The result is phased reverb that sounds great

@marcelotorres3285 2 года назад

Thanks for talking about it AND also doing it!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Of course!

@Jeff-11_354 2 года назад

This was seriously one of the best videos you've ever done on this channel. Hat tip.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

🙏🙏🙏 wow thank you!

@petg12340 Год назад

Superb video. Brilliantly explained and detailed

@mattfrazier3759 2 года назад

Really clear and articulate explanation of technical topic. Thanks so much for taking the time to help me understand!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@onewiththings 2 года назад

I'm always learning something new!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@hunterplaysguitar2301 2 года назад

Nice and very informative video as always Mason 🙏 Thank you.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Hamppzah 2 года назад

Most informative guitar rig content out there currently!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

🙏🙏🙏

@mykneeshurt8393 2 года назад

my reverb lives in my amp and sound AMAZING when I try to move the amp while it's turned on... Great video!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Rock on!

@blackdogrover 2 года назад

Awesome! I really dig this tutorial, as it shone light on a topic I think about all the time, but never invested the time researching the answers. Thanks much. Love what you bring to me here. So much knowledge and guidance. Really thought-provoking. 🎶🎶🌅🎶🎶

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@danielmiller2886 11 месяцев назад

After seeing the title, I'm so confused. I learned the signal chain from your video to begin with!

@AsouzSan17 2 года назад

Hi Mason, very good your explanation I am learning more and more about chain of effects. I use the following form: Guitar+Delay+Reverb+Ampli. This formula sounds better to my ears.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Sounds great!

@strauss885 2 года назад

Awesome breakdown I appreciate these kind of deep dives into sound and tone 👍

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@bleedinggumsmurphy537 2 года назад

The explanation here is fantastic but what's even better is that tone with that reverb tank 🤤 oh lordy that's good

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Heck yea!

@thaianddanelifeinthailand4803 2 года назад

WOW !! This is good and useful stuff. I play small bars and small venues and this video definitely taught me a thing or two about combining delay and reverb, and especially the important and useful difference between the order of the two. Which boils down to personal preference. And also the song in question being played. Thanks a lot.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@samrotschild 2 года назад

Recently discovered your channel. Great info. Already suscribed

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks and welcome

@TheStudioRats 2 года назад

Fantastic video!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

🙏🙏🙏 just follow the lead of the “Rats” keep up the good work gents! Thanks for watching!

@gregmize01 2 года назад

Always interesting!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@PatatoKeftes 2 года назад

Great suggestion on running reverb and delay in paralllel. And man those licks you chose to use to demostrate sounds were just perfect choices.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@mvwoon 5 месяцев назад

Delay is an acoustically "later" effect. Slap back, canyon echo, or bounce off a big wall (or old fashioned distributed speaker horn arrays on poles at outdoor arenas) is the last thing that happens, where reverb is a spectrum of reflections and EQ filtering from very fast reflections to longer ones.

@aaronfrazier524 2 года назад

Love your videos! Keep them coming, I'm a bass player who's always open for learning scenarios like this, you explain them very well.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Awesome, thank you!

@rawkzilla2319 2 года назад

Excellent video...will be viewing this again later to fully absorb everything with gear handy. Thnx 🎶🎸👍

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Awesome! Hope we earned your subscription!

@rawkzilla2319 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc Yes definitely subbed 👍

@reverendg5937 3 месяца назад

Thanks for being you. The Rig Doctor Strikes Again!!!!

@FranktheBlindArtist 2 года назад

Great video! Gave me lots of parallel ideas

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@MoggioMTB 2 года назад

Funny when I bought the new BOSS RV-2 because the Marshall had no reverb, just spent 5 mins experimenting and plugged it in last in the pedal chain. It sounded "goodest" and that's where it stayed because it gave a reverby sound. Bigger room, dial it back, smaller room dial it up a bit. Pretty much end of thought about it. Now that pedal sounds very different to an amp reverb but it gave that rough space to the sound and as an effect sounded cool. Really rough and brute force with no subtlety in that thinking. Great video explaining what can be done!!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@HowardFrischer 2 года назад

I’ve been schooled. Flipping my delay and reverb pedals.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

At least try it out to see what you like, there is no RIGHT answer :)

@j_wah3084 2 года назад

Love it. Reverb pedals typically don't sound "right" to my ears. Now I know why. Rock on, Mason. 🤘

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

This may not be the only reason, but perhaps one of them.

@pursharthchawla8306 2 года назад

killer video! thank you so much

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad you dig it!

@randyheath8566 Год назад

It's been so long since I used a pedal board, I don't recall where I would place my pedals at. But I do remember that I had pedals, I plug straight in now.

@VertexEffectsInc Год назад

Maybe it's time to start bringing a few back into the mix?

@geo5772 2 года назад

As usual Mason, an old dog CAN learn new tricks, thanks for pointing out the in/out on the reverb of the older Fender amps as a means of inserting an effect as opposed to the effects loop on newer amps...

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching Geo!

@geo5772 2 года назад

Whenever I can Mason!!

@whodunitpros8555 2 года назад

Hey Mason, great segment. I’ve been enjoying the TC Electronic Plethora 5x which offers an array of TC E pedals but also allows you to switch pedal order on the fly simply by pressing both foot switches at the same time. Some banks I’ll have a tremolo, delay, reverb, delay, reverb, and then can stack or switch as needed.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Nice, that's a cool pedal!

@badgerdub 2 года назад

Excellent video! I really learned some stuff and got turned on to new vendors and tools. Parrallel reverb and delay is cool but there is also nothing wrong with stacking 3 delays in serial like Ry Cooder. You would think this would sound like muddy shoegaze mess but he gets some of the most incredibly huge clean sounds this way. Catalinbread Talisman plate reverb is my favorite reverb pedal because it sounds extremely good plugged into the front of a clean or gritty Fender. It does the EMT140 sound in a simple pedal better than anything else. I find that using a high efficiency speaker like a JBL E120 in an open back cab is very friendly to having big lush reverbs run through them. A low wattage speaker like a V30 sounds better having reverb added after the mic.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@ElijahRock92 2 года назад

I really like that bright, chime-like sound

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Nice!

@franknavarro9364 Год назад

Thaks a lot!! You enlighten me. Even with my Hx stomp alone that I have right here.

@Soundchain101 2 года назад

Very useful segment. Thanks. Following up on your call for suggestions, a segment like this might benefit from including examples from famous recordings, where possible. For instance, noting that tube reverb boxes appear to have been developed and used prior to integration into guitar amps, it would have been cool to have one or two samples of segments of famous songs/artists where this set up was used and to hear the studio reference. Not necessarily an easy task but a nice to have. Thanks again.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Great suggestion!

@glenndowell3373 2 года назад

Great content and information… I wish you had a signal chain master class.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Maybe one day! Thanks for watching Glenn!

@RichInternationalAir 9 месяцев назад

Mason, though you posted this a year ago, I've only just seen it. Very helpful, thank you! 😊 🎸

@VertexEffectsInc 9 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@error8418 2 года назад

Very nice overview over a complex subject. I have always preferred my reverb at the very end of the signal chain, i.e. after the mic pre. There's only so much you can do with running a pedalboard into the front end of an amp.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Yep, we did that in the Wet/Dry scenario basically - very similar.

@error8418 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc I have been experimenting with an HX stomp for that application.

@eduardoprieto5267 2 года назад

Super cool thanks.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@damonb.9300 2 года назад

You rock dude. I am a plain Jane guy. I play my guitars into a crate v1512 with a deluxe memory boy straight in. This video just decided how I want to run my rig

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Great news!

@simonhirstmusic 2 года назад

Awesome video Mason! Personally, it just depends on what sound I’m chasing, and the context. If it’s in the studio then I’ve found it’s about knowing which placement helps me achieve which result and then setting it up accordingly. If it’s strictly my live board for my original music then I like it last 👍🏻 I do it that way because it gives me a similar thing as to what I’d do when adding in a reverb in a DAW which I like. I mostly use reverb more sparingly so this works well. But again, that’s just what’s works best for me 👌🏻

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching and for the comment!

@HisRoyalSelf Год назад

I like you. You're a good egg. I'm glad you exist. Thank you.

@Pro355Street 2 года назад

Awesome and informative video. Thanks for putting this one out! I run a clean platform amplifier with delay before AND after reverb ;) because options 🤙🏻

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Nice!!! Glad you enjoyed the video, hope we earned your subscription!

@bozzolanmusic3617 Год назад

Very good man !!!

@VertexEffectsInc Год назад

Thanks for listening

@andreacanova8253 Год назад

In my experience, and in my actual pedalboard, the chain I love most is: dyn>drv>preamp>cab sim>mod>delay>reverb.

@VertexEffectsInc Год назад

Cool!

@oaeoeaoRust 9 месяцев назад

This video made me run a reverb pedal before a distortion and refer to it as classical.

@ken1davies2 2 года назад

I sense pedal some re-ordering in my future. Great vid!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

thank Kenneth, hope we earned your subscription!

@ken1davies2 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc You did!

@AndersonGandra 2 года назад

Very good! Thank you! PS: THAT strat sound 🤤

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

It's a good one! Shout out to to Chicago Music Exchange for picking a gem of a guitar for me :).

@BkBk-gy6vr Год назад

Place it where ever you want whenever you want no right or wrong and don't let anyone tell you you're doing it wrong.

@iamkennymartin 2 года назад

The Source Audio Collider is really cool and allows you to easily switch from cascaded to parallel, reverb before delay, etc to test out the different preferences you might have.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Yes, we tout the magic of the Collider regularly on this channel! Great pedal!

@iamkennymartin 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc I’ve really loved it so far. The flexibility in routing and the whole aspect of the neuro desktop editor and burning presets from the community is amazing and really easy. I have a small board, and wanted an amp-less option, so I recently swapped out my Source Audio Ventris and Empress Echosystem for a Collider, which gave me room for a Walrus ACS1 for amp-cab sim. The ventris and echosystem are obviously awesome too, but I found myself using about 10% of what they were capable of doing, so the Collider has been a great fit for me. Has plenty of engines still to work with.

@felixkjonsberg6493 Год назад

I usually stack reverbs on my board. One in front of delay, one after, and sometimes on the amp. Right now, I'm using spring into analog delay into room reverb

@rocky2195 5 месяцев назад

You need more delay bro

@clifford_2zero7 2 года назад

7:05 "wicked game" I play that all the time. One of my favorite reverb tunes. EDIT** Then you played "hallelujah" which is probably my favorite reverb-y tunes that I play frequently. Jeff Buckley's version that solo he does at the 420-430 mark is amazing love that lil bit!

@ericviking6530 9 месяцев назад

I once had a vibroking, I think the reverb was placed in front of the preamp, set as a standalone unit. I now use a Koch classictone 210 with a surfybear in front of preamp. Am I right about the vibroking? Greetz from the Netherlands (where Koch amps are made).

@guitareMTL 2 года назад

I like to put the reverb first position in the chain so it can distord when I drive the tubes.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Very shoegaze application

@chrisdaviesguitar 2 года назад

the placement of pedals is solely down to the user. there is no right or wrong way. If it sounds good to you, then it's right.

@soundslikebroken3333 2 года назад

Exactly. Depends on what you're going for. If you want to emulate your heroes and the sounds of the past, he's absolutely right. If you're doing something different and unique, you aren't beholden to conventional wisdom. *shrugs

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Nothing in here disputes that sentiment.

@GitShiddy Год назад

I have a Source Audio Collider that I run in mono with an MXR Sugar Drive after then I split the signal with an Ernie Ball Expression Tremolo & MXR Carbon Copy going to the cleaner amp & a Dunlop Mini-Wah goin to the dirtier amp (both amps are on at all times). It's quite versatile in crafting whatever sound I want with respect to reacting to reverbs. Drive after verb is hugely underrated.

@teedub127 2 года назад

I've always placed my reverb at the end of the chain. My favorite reverb unit is the 1st version of the Alesis Microverb, it's not a pedal but I use it on my pedal board.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Nice!

@teedub127 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc Even nicer, I found it at a Goodwill store for $10.00.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

@@teedub127 Nice!

@thisisfrankie 2 года назад

Happy to see the Hardwire RV-7. Such an underrated series.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Couldn't agree more!

@barstia7847 2 года назад

It's the best reverb Ive had! Simply better sounding than Hall of fame,boss reverb,etc

@thisisfrankie 2 года назад

Very crips and professional sounding packed in a box. No wonder it’s price has gone up in the used market

@barstia7847 2 года назад

The hardwire rv7 si the best reverb Ive seen! The plate is just amazing,and gated! And spring!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Couldn't agree more!

@Souldoubtrocks 2 года назад

I need to watch this 10 times to digest it all. 😂

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Be sure to use the table of contents!

@RobertNolan 2 года назад

The Fender 6G15 was available from 61-66, this was for models like the Brown Panel Deluxe, Bassman models, Tremolux, and Bandmaster respectively -models that did not have the built in reverb feature. Part of the love that is for the 6G15 style unit is that there was no other tone than to go right in the front of the amp if you wanted it, so you had to work with it as is. It's the Dick Dale surf tone that you're going for if you're looking at it.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Robert, correct, and I don't think anything in this video disputes that - I think you'll agree. I think Dick Dale used a Showman with 2x15's, super clean. That's definitely a sound in and of itself. It would have been nice to use a Spring Reverb tank in this video as well. I have a mid 60's Reverb Tank, but it wasn't functional - we'll have to revisit this later :)

@RobertNolan 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc I have the silver panel version with the tubed buffer in it, the reissues have this in their design as well if I'm remembering correctly. I think the take away from this video is that it's important to test wherever possible because you may find a method you really love that's outside of conventionalism. Peace, brother... And get that 6g15 fixed! 🤙 Maybe send it to Colleen Fazio/Fazio Electric?

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

@@RobertNolan I'm working on it...I just need to make the time, I'm like the cobbler whose kids have no shoes :)

@walterwhite390 2 года назад

Very interesting!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@PhearNoneGearGadgets 2 года назад

I wonder what your recommendations would be for electric violin. Would they change? how do you feel about UAFX golden reverberator . Thank you for this detailed review.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

It wouldn't change much...you might need something that converts your mic'd Violin to high impedance unbalanced like a Voco Loco to bring in pedals properly, but otherwise would be the same approach.

@jayseb 2 года назад

And me that thought I knew how to use my Reverb... hahaha. I mean I run it in the loop, but as for the rest... well. Great video.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad to help!

@Mauitaoist 2 года назад

I have an original 64 fender Princeton reverb.I love the Reverb on the amp, I also have reverb by my board but I always keep my Princeton set for a clean sound so it doesn't really interfere with the drive because all my drives come from my pedals so I can have both. Also I use delay before reverb. Just the way Mason said was "wrong" but I like the delay to be crisp followed by reverb, and keeping my amp clean the reverb is still post preamp as my pedal drives are the acting as the "preamp". I love using parallel effects when I'm playing through my rack.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

You can still have crisp delay post reverb, however it's impossible on a vintage Fender amp because you can't separate the pre and power amp. The part we're saying is "wrong" is more of - if you're attempting to set up a vintage reverb tone with an amp without reverb to resemble an old Fender, like you have, you have to put the reverb in the loop. Just as your '64 Princeton has the Reverb after the preamp in terms of the internal circuitry.

@JohnOhkumaThiel Год назад

You can't fool me Jack Black. I know it's you!

@jayaristonlim4244 Год назад

😆

@guitarmike6757 2 года назад

Very helpful video thank you 😊

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@playpm Год назад

Reverb into delay might be out of control, cuz the stacked reverb tails from delay can boost the highs quite a lot, you can definitely hear the clipping from video demo at 14:50, it's clipping at almost every strumming and it sounds harsh to me. So didn't convince me for that part, but appreciated for explaining where the reverb happens in that amp.

@erhnam Год назад

I have two pedal boards. One has a DD-500 in front of a Trinity using spring or plate and the other one has a Supernatural in front a DD-5 using shimmer type effects. Both works depending on what type of music I play.

@VertexEffectsInc Год назад

👌👌👌

@user-pd1oc2zs9q Год назад

I love reverb, chorus and tremolo. I have found it essential to put a reverb pedal available before AND after each one on my board. If I was forced to choose one option, I would set up with my reverb BEFORE each of those effects. Especially the tremolo! If you like tremolo, make sure you try it after the reverb! The assumption reverb should be at the end is worth testing!!

@Danthehorse 2 года назад

As I recall Mason, reverb into delay was an 80s session trick , love it.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Yes, I think that was mentioned in the video! For sure was an 80's rack thing.

@Danthehorse 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc having me/cfs I sometimes miss what is said bro. Good vid.

@Thebarbariantruckershow 2 года назад

I run my reverbs through my effects loop and then my fuzz's, compressor, drives through the guitar. Works the best for me.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

👍👍👍

@charleswood2182 10 месяцев назад

Good stuff.

@stratowhore9051 2 года назад

CLASSIC studio sounds, CLASSIC amps. Respect your gear knowledge and quality videos, but, have you ever heard of a "classical car"? CLASSIC! CLASSIC! (I'm an English teacher).

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

I'm fairly sure that both classic and classical can be used as nouns or adjectives. In the example you used, classic cars are a genre of cars - it's a noun. Just like when you say, "Sports Cars" it's a noun - sports isn't being use as an adjective, it's a type of car all its own. In the context of this video, I'm using "classical" as a way to describe (as an adjective) the canonized rig builder era of building styles that acts as the Mt. Rushmore standard for what we know as the modern pedalboard and rack rigs. I don't see anything that disqualifies "classical" here. I'll take any information that refutes this under advisement if you're wanting to qualify your comment beyond "English teacher".

@scottiev77 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc isn’t calling something classical as an adjective mean “like from the classical era”. That’s what it sounds like you’re saying each time, and Bach didn’t use spring reverb on his harpsichords rig.

@bks252 Год назад

@@scottiev77 who gives a shit? It’s an instructional video on reverb pedals and placement. Do you sit around all evening and comment on every video you watch on their choice of adjectives or nouns? Get a life and enjoy and learn from the video that he took the time to make.

@playdelay 2 года назад

You can use certain Fryette attenuators to add an fx loop to many amps... I've wanted to try that out!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Yes you can!

@danpugatch 2 года назад

Appreciate your videos, I currently run guitar > Tremolo > digital delay > reverb > clean amp that doesn't have FX loop . I'm looking to add overdrive and fuzz just not sure which should be first.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Nice! Fuzz closer to guitar generally.

@centauriatacama1794 Год назад

If you want grit & sensitivity, fuzzes should go closer, like a fuzz face or I have a Spaceman Sputnik iii which is really touchy. However though I sort of demand a bigger sound. I currently have: sd1->angry charlie v3->hm2w->plumes this then runs into my fuzzes: twin bender->sf300->muffuletta

@ericleary5075 2 года назад

At the end unless I use a clean boost at the end, then it’s reverb then boost. I’ve just always done it that way because it sounded good to my ear.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

And thats all that matters, whats sounds best to you! Glad you enjoyed the video Eric!

@deletechannel13 2 года назад

Mason, will you make a video about the hinged riser and how to run cabling from underneath it, where to put tie down mounts and stuff like that?

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

I think we have several on this already in our rig build videos :)

@MrLittleblindshakey 2 года назад

Do any of your observations and comments change relative to an acoustic guitar? I do not often see pedals and pedal placement reviewed and discussed in the context of an acoustic guitar through an amp or PA. Thanks Mason. Very well done video.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Most of this would be the same for acoustic instruments.

@simoneh4732 2 года назад

Wampler did a video a few years back saying Reverb after Delay, then did another video a couple years later where he backtracked and preferred Delay after Reverb. Personally I find Reverb after Delay (in front of the amp) has too much wash - I like the crispness of having Delay at the end. My favourite part of this video and my key takeaway was the Reverb before vs after pre-amp comparison. Big difference, and much nicer sound and closer to the original. I don't think I'll fuss with that for live playing, but that's great to know for recording.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Personal preference is everything, also depending on how intense the delay is will also change how influenced it is. Of course, you can run them in parallel and then the order doesn't matter :)

@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer 2 года назад

You got the reverb > delay to sound really good. I've never had similar success, live in the room with me. The reverb ends up kind of "swallowing" the delay for me. I do plan on eventually setting up a wet/dry/wet rig (I have the amps, I've just been lazy nor have I properly set up my pedalboard) but in the meantime I'm going to try two things; firstly, running delay and reverb in parallel, likely using a GigRig Wetter Box. The second, is one I thought of when you talked about the Bradshaw rigs and reveb triggering off each delay trail; running a reverb pedal in the effects loop of one of my delays that are equipped with one.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks! I think the parallel configuration might be a cool move! Also some amps have parallel loops in them which can be something cool to experiment with.

@blacktoothfox677 2 года назад

Use less.🍀 Reverb is easily overdone. Tiny amounts will serve, especially with a delay combined. Frankly I think the demos in this video sound awful... Sorry that makes me sound like an arrogant hater, but there it is. Delay into reverb is fine, I don't care what this mason says. Good luck with it all mate. 🍀best regards from the UK 🍀

@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer 2 года назад

@@blacktoothfox677 If that's what you hear, that's what you hear. I just think "awful" is a bit of a stretch. To me "awful" would mean terrible audio quality and lack of clarity, what this certainly is neither. Maybe you just don't like that particular style of guitar tone? I'd imagine it's less about the specific tones and more about the set up. Idk, different strokes.

@KRAZEEIZATION 2 года назад

The Boss FRV-1 is pretty good for a modelling unit. I’ve one on my board and always on for nearly 2 years now.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

It's a great reverb no doubt!

@jesussavesrick 2 года назад

Great video. The popping noise throughout got old though. Could do without them, but amazing content. Thanks again!

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Noted! Thanks for watching!

@MYGAS21 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc I love the popping noise! My vote is yes to fun popping ....that never ever gets old.

@SFolkes97 2 года назад

Uff ... reverb! The hardest for me to be satisfied with is reverb, so thanks for the as-always invaluable info. I have the True Spring, Polara, and (sleeper) RV-7 and more. The most important thing for me is, I HAVE to do the physical work - actually try things and move them around. At one point I thought I made a mistake buying the True Spring - all that money and I'm disappointed. Tried it a different way and, "Oh man, I LOVE this thing!"

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Yes indeed...you gotta put in the time to really qualify each pedal for your context.

@victorpate24 2 года назад

This is why I love my Kemper and even my Eleven Rack..... I put the Reverb after the Amp/Pre-Amp

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

It’s one way to do it

@pspbsb 2 года назад

Thanks for the great content, once again. I've always been curious about the location of the Tremolo circuit (or Vibrato) inside a fender amp. Would be after the Reverb ? Cheers!

@adhaskym.a9536 2 года назад

After reverb.

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Glad to help! Yes, after reverb.

@alfrededdingsii9098 2 года назад

I just hope Rig Dr. has healed from getting beat up on this one…to each their own! ✌🏾❤️🎼

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Thanks for watching! No Doctors were injured in the making of this video ;)

@ruffestneckaround 2 года назад

Oceans 12 last in the loop, I find myself using the tremo-verb a lot. I recently acquired a DR Z Z-Verb spring tank and have been running it last in front of my combo that doesn't have a loop and it sounds amazing, for *that* sound. Can't wait to try it in a loop on my Rectifier and Silver Jubilee 🤘

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Sounds good! Just make sure the spring tank can accept the fx loop levels of your amps without clipping.

@ruffestneckaround 2 года назад

@@VertexEffectsInc I will watch for that, thank you!

@silverdragon0000120 2 года назад

I have a mesa badlander. If I wanted delay and reverb. Would it be okay to put reverb in the effects loop and have the delay on the front of the amp or together with the reverb in the effects loop? Thanks. I'm new to this

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

I’d say both in the loop.

@robertw1871 2 года назад

Live I run the verb last in the effects chain.. tracking I run dry and add the room verb in the mixing process… or I run the amp in a live room and skip all those steps, print it directly with some EQ and call it done…

@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад

Sounds great!