Honestly, I think Eilis is just secretly super buff. She cycles in winter WITHOUT A BALACLAVA, and now she's able to lift this scooter in the air one handed.
I was really enthusiastic about this product until the €3300 price reveal. I get that premium scooters need a premium price but this is a luxury price.
The cost is high but I do like the concept. It has extra power when required but is likely to fall within ‘safe’ limits if/when private scooters are ever legalised in the UK. My Zero 10x would never be legalised which is a great shame. How is the campaign for legalisation going by the way? Queen’s speech notwithstanding.
I love the product, but the price at nearly £3K is only for rich people. There are other very lightweight alternatives at around one third the price. For me, an EUC is mch smaller, has better range and a fraction of the price, though not suitable for everyone due to the learning curve, but its what i would go for..
Way out of my price range (kind of obvious when you mentioned a titanium frame), but the concept is ideal for NYC, where I live. The light-weight and compactness means it is ideal foor stairs (apartments - as much as 5-story walk ups, and mass transit - the escalators and elevators for most of the subway - your Underground - stations are often out of order. Roads (and sidewalks) are often bad so a flexible frame and pneumatic tires are plus. Suspension with honey-comb solid tires might be better for the various road debris that can be found in NYC, but that does add weight. Very critical is the acceleration, nimbleness, and excellent braking to deal with the congestion (vehicles and pedestrian). NYC has a higher tempo than pretty much everwhere else. We are the city of "ASAP", the "New York Minute", and "I want it f'ing yesterday". LOL BTW, do you have a phobia against kickstands. LOL
Great video, amazing piece of kit, love the low weight, the titanium and the front/back braking-less room for error and no playing drifting games. But this is meant to be urban transport, i.e. the scooter is meant to be helpful in getting from A to B if you are too lazy to walk. The rocket fast speeds that even an experienced rider like yourself, Eilis are having trouble controlling means that there is going to potentially be all sorts of mayhem when on the streets in the hands of a very young speed freak, probably with no helmet. The price should help filter out the mature from the maniacs, though. It costs more than the value of my car. Brilliant (private) road test.
Big fan of titanium, nice stuff, strong and light, does not need any paint to look great! That's one awesome looking transporter device. I'm thinking range could easily be extended with a docking port interface for extra power I would do a custom backpack with matching style elements and a drop down cable that auto finds(live wire) the connection to the scooter. Would that not be cool to see your pack auto connect! Use magnets to hold in place and auto retract when you hop off the scooter.
That price is horrific. Why wouldn’t you just get double the range and durability as well as lightness and get an E-TWOW/uscooter gt. oh yeah at a third of the price…. I live in Barcelona where scooters are legal on the road and I’ve done over 10,000km on mine, it’s only ever needed new solid tyres once.
titanium is not cheap. anything titanium will be very expensive. its only 9kg. dont think you can achieve that with the same durability with steel and plastic.. but yea not practical.
@@jeanmuyuela8112 I mean that’s just over engineering for the sake of it. My e-twow gt has done over 10k and I’ve never had any issues with its durability and it’s 13kg which is easily light enough to take on a train or pick up easily. They’ve just used titanium to slap a ridiculous price on an underpowered scooter.
Eilis, looks interesting, like the design, can pass as a push scooter. Price, hmm, even with your excellent presentation, it's steep for the average commuter. But an excellent presentation 👍
I enjoy your channel even tho the British e-mobility scene is quite a bit different from the American one. I have reservations about electric scooters because the small wheels have much less ability to get over obstacles and ride thru potholes, leading to accidents. Also, the batteries are in the base and at greater risk of water infiltration which in turn can lead to fires. But they do lend themselves to last mile solutions compared to bicycles. This does seem like a sweet ride. If I decided to get a scooter I would want this one.
Legislation on e-scooters, bikes, and mopeds makes no sense in the UK or the EU. E-scooters are legal up to 1000watt, and e-bikes are legal up to 250W, Mopeds I believe they have no restrictions as long as they can't do more than 45 km/h E-scooters have throttle all the way to top speed, e-bikes you need to pedal if you want to go faster than 6km/h (walk assist), and Mopeds throttle all the way.
Mopeds require licensed riders, they have to be registered, carry identification, are subject to drink-drive laws and major sanctions, such as points and disqualifications. They are also not allowed on cycle or shared paths. It is compulsory to have insurance and wear protective gear. There are annual road-worthiness test after three years. Moped are also much more stable and have much better braking performance, in large part because of the geometry. There is also a minimum level of training required to ride a moped, even if you don't need to pass a test. Of the above, some apply to even legal e-scooters under the approved rental scheme, but you appear to want to drop that. Why you make such a comparison with mopeds, I've no idea. I don't know about 1000 watts, but the current rental scheme has a strict speed limit of 15.5 mph, or less than 10 mph. I very much doubt any of the rental e-scooters has an output of 1 kW.
@eilis, this is random, but I just saw you in a video of the guy with the white cat in the front basket from a few months ago! I had to rewind a few times to make sure it was you!
So its made in portugal and you can book a test ride in one of 10 places in France, 1 in spain and none in Portugal. Are they trying to run before they can walk?
$3300 is stupid pricing. you are competing with Emove, Nanrobot, segways, KAABO of the world with 10x more range, 60V-72V , speed, power, motorbike grade features. 3.3k for portability only is insane
My current Vsett 10+ has a 25.6 ah battery, runs 60 volts, hydraulic disk brakes and is powered by 2-1400watt motors capable of 80km/h when combined. My weight just under 70kg and It's weight is a rather hefty 38kg. So i'm only good for 2 flights of stairs before exhaustion. I use 7 volts to travel 18km in mode 3 utilizing the rear motor only. * 2 motors before sunrise when the temperature is -4°C can be deadly at speeds of up to 60k. But the 2-wheel acceleration when the day warms up, is at least equal too or better than sex. Lastly, the price... around £2300 if you do a direct conversion from Aussie dollars. But for very short trips around busy locations, and if i had the spare cash... the titanium, the quality components and the overall weight, oh yes please.
"The UK's stance on electric scooters? It’s like they took one look at the future and said, ‘Nah, let’s stick with horses and carriages.’ It’s almost impressive how they’ve managed to make walking to work look like a faster option. Meanwhile, the rest of the world is zipping around on scooters, but in the UK, we’re still dodging potholes on bikes and hoping our shoes don’t wear out. The laws are so outdated, you’d think they were written by someone who’s still afraid of the steam engine. But hey, at least they’re protecting us from the real danger-efficient, eco-friendly transport. Well done, UK. Truly, a nation ahead of its time... in reverse."
Look at the PACTs report on the safety, or lack of it on these things. Potholes are actually one of the things that e-scooters do not deal with well at all. I know somebody who suffered a traumatic brain injury having rented one of these things whilst on holiday. She wasn't wearing a helmet, and had to be repatriated and now requires 24 hour care. Not everything that is convenient is wise.
It’s not the e-scooters that’s the problem it’s firstly the unregulated batteries and then there’s riders who don’t ride them with due care and consideration and care. Sort both those issues out and there’s argument not to make them legal.
The problem I find with the ridiculous UK ban on e-scooters is that (I assume) they are unregistered. If they're involved in accidents, they can just 'vanish' without trace. I watched a video recently of a cyclist that was seriously injured by an e-scooter rider that didn't stop at a junction. Kids ride them where I live, on pavements and main roads (including one-way streets the wrong way), at full speed. So at the very least, they need to be coded / registered.
@@cashtimevideo1501 e-bikes are not registered either. Are you proposing that they and e-scooters ought to be registered and identifiable? One important point about e-scooters on the approved rental scheme is that they do carry third party insurance, the rider has to have a license and they can be prosecuted for traffic infractions which can put points on that license or even receive a ban. If e-scooters are to be registered and identifiable, then it's going to be difficult to come up with an argument why e-bikes shouldn't be similarly treated. That is going to run into huge opposition.
Think the Europeans have seen a cash cow they can milk charging 3k and in my personal opinion, a waste of titanium. In any comparison (aside weight though I'd take 6kg extra for larger battery, larger base, lights and a kickstand), the Pure Advance scooter would win, UK fabricated and built with electronics/lights and features for UK road safety, twice the range, similar two feet deck design and a fifth of the price! I'm curious about the deck on the T9, whether is actually fastened to the pole or just clamped in position, as imagine after a bit of vibrations, thats going to start slipping to one side and you're going to struggle to stand on it/scraps along the ground. Otherwise Eilis to lift 10Kg one handed with no effort, powerhouse.
You should not make fun about the girls power. Some are small and have thin arms. Healthy people can easyly lift half of their weight with ohne hand. Every farmerwife can😅
Labour won't change anything. I hope I'm wrong, but I remember back pre-2010 when they last had power, and they were absolutely useless and barely ever lifted a finger unless it was to steal taxes for their estate portfolios and buying lavish items like bird baths for their million pound estates. Under Labour before, the entire north of England was a cesspool of despair, low income equality, entire high streets closed down, and no housing available. Now they've inherited a system where things have been rapidly expanded with entire new housing estates being built, new shopping centers (look at what Leeds has done with their Trinity center for example) and even long-forgotten listed buildings being rejuvenated to stop them falling to the ground and make them useful again (Unity House on Westgate, Wakefield, as well as the former ABC Cinema on Kirkgate which stood derelict for over 25 years, now demolished to be turned into something actually usable- also Wakefield prime examples). Under Labour, those buildings wouldn't have stood a chance, just like the many public libraries they chose to demolish with no plans to rebuild anything, EVER, even though local business owners were offering to repair them and bring them up to code for entirely free. Ah yeah, Labour, the party where FREE is even too expensive..
It's criminal that they're not legal yet. By the time they are, my E-Scooter will be at the end of its operational life in terms of the battery, as it's already 3 years old. And I'm 25 and probably won't want another due to the laws. So it's a great bloody shame, too little too late.
Three grand for a scooter? And one that you can't even legally ride anywhere, to boot? They're having a bubble aren't they? You could get a more than decent secondhand car for that, or a brand new 50cc moped/scooter with enough left over for petrol for a year! I'm all for electric, don't get me wrong, but the pricing right now is beyond ridiculous!
It's one of those companies that used to be, no doubt at that price we will all be wondering what ever happened to them in a few months time. Do you remember that company that made a mediocre scooter that cost 3 grand we will be saying, yeh it went bad but 3 grand us a lot fir a scooter that does 15 mph or whatever it did. Oh well they never learn.
Having had my Pure Air scooter stolen a few weeks ago I am in the market for a new one. This won't be it as ,like many out there, it is priced as a wealthy man's toy. Ridiculous price tag.
it's banned because it's the most efficient mode of transport, even more efficient than ebikes, much simpler construction than bikes, fold smaller than bikes, no need to lock them so no need to worry about theft, a total car killer, can't let that happen.
3,300 was Euro's, its £2,785. Thats still a serious wedge of money. Just one thing Eilish, I would recomment gloves when riding, should the worst happen and you come off, bear skin verses the ground never ends well.
Until the UK makes E-Scooters legal, I will not buy one to use here. Why have they used such a tiny rear wheel. British roads and pathways are often very poor. That alone makes this a bad option.
I am not against the use of them but people balancing on them on roads perhaps any road is dangerous, we need more cycle paths, not joining walking and cycling together on one path it leads to confrontation some bikes are going to fast but people walking just don't pay attention and Wander on any side , it's important to pay for the infrastructure.
Electric scooters are inherently dangerous in my view, with those tiny wheels which are vulnerable to holes and obstructions which an ordinary cycle would barely notice. They also have twitchy handling and inferior braking and a high centre of gravity. They are especially dangerous not wearing a helmet. A fairly near neighbour had an accident having hired one on holiday, came off and suffered a severe brain injury. She now has to have 24 hour care. I have my doubts about the wisdom of encouraging their use, especially without protective gear. PACTS - the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety has some serious concerns about their safety. The were aware of 43 deaths over a period of about 5 years (with a startling 14 in 2022). The great majority were of privately owned, not rented s-scooters. Note, I don't think the list is exhaustive. PACTS found that only about 10% of admissions to hospitals from e-scooter accidents were recorded as such. An average of eight per year might not sound huge, but that's about 8-9% of the total cyclist fatalities in the UK from what is a much less common form of transport. I should add that it appears the great majority (around 90%) of serious accidents with e-scooters do not involve collisions with vehicles, but are simply people falling off the things. There is even an article called E-Scooters vs E-Bikes - an independent safety review on, of all places, the British Superbike School website, which analyses a lot of the issues of e-Scooters vs e-Bikes, including braking distances, stability and efficiency (and e-Scooters appear to be less efficient than e-Bikes) and they do not come out well. It's written by Mike Abbott MBA who is a s a RoSPA Advanced Motorcycle Instructor and was BikeSafe assessor for the Lincs Police. So I am not convinced making recommending this gung-ho approach without proper analysis of safety data is wise. That "forward thinking" line is simply reckless when it is endorsing 1.5 kW e-scooters being used on the road without any thoughts as to the safety implications.
Escooters are absolutely pointless for now. Going to be years yet, and I'm not convinced labour will legalise them. If they are legalised it won't be before 2028
You really think a Starlin regime is going to make it easier for scooter riders? 🤣No, they're going to ban it for you, with severe punishments, and ignore criminals and street robbers in balaclavas who ride the 60mph ones.
When you complain about the lack of legalisation here in the UK, what have you considered to be the issues to address before it's safe for ALL people using the public roads and pavements? - - The torque and acceleration of this product are far in excess of what's needed as demonstrated by your video. The designers are clearly caught up in the idiocy of performance electric cars and bikes making them the liability and moronic luxuries that don't solve the problem that e-vehicles were vaunted to address which is a mass migration by ALL the people in societies to cleaner transport modes. - The people currently flouting the law on the public roads and pavements by driving the unregulated and illegally specced e-scooters and e-bikes are a menace and have already been causing accidents amongst all other road and pavement users. They are as bad if not worse than cyclists respecting traffic lights. So whilst properly specced, regulated and constrained personal e-mobility options are great on paper and in design showrooms what are YOUR solutions for the idiots who have no care for the responsible use of them, and there are many of them in the populace not just a few borderline thugs, louts and criminals using them for crime or because they've already been banned from driving or using a motorbike? - Under current regulations your potential law-breakers are as likely to be underage so how do you mitigate and handle that? - What controls would you put on import of sub-standard and unsafe products? How would you control that? How about electrification kits a la bike retrofit options that are substandard or illegally specced? - What about safe storage of these vehicles when not in use by owners who have arrived at their destinations? Great if you can splash 3.3k on one some can carry (along with everything else of theirs) but how about those that can't be hauled readily off the street into a premises that doesn't have storage for dozens of employees' transport (let alone the charging provision). Regular push bikes get nicked all the time for the few quid that thieves can get for them, how do you secure tens of thousands of pounds worth of employee transport? Liability Insurance? It's bad enough getting £200 quid of bike nicked from outside work where employers refuse to accept liability and bike insurance might only cover you if you've used a lock(s) that cost over 50% of said bike but still don't stop an angle grinder. - How would you as an employer with cost control challenges account for the cost of charging employee devices? Make it an option for their remuneration packages or just have payment meters on the charge points? Calculate an equivalence to interest free season ticket loans? If you don't charge for charging there may well be employees who don't use e-mobility so how much travel subsidy of e-commuters would be tolerated by them before they start asking for equivalent perks and bens? - As an owner how do you want your ownership protected? What liability insurance should you hold? 15 mph is enough to break bones (or worse), as is uncontrolled acceleration into the path of larger vehicles. All the above and much more even before you deal with the littering of the hire bikes and scooters (e or not) that is rife in all operating areas.
I brought my escooter on the train from Ireland the the north and got pulled over by two heavily armed police and told I was breaking 30 laws The UK is a police state
you're a fantastic presenter but please dont get involved in politics - yes you might love and trust Labour but the overwhelming majority of the potential voters didn't
She is a fantastic presenter, they all are, but you do realise when talking about the laws that like govern our daily lives you can't not mention politics? 😅 There was a few people commenting about politics like its half the video, not a sentence. 😂
@@mattjack369 sorry mate, its the way she said it, she clearly loves Labour which is her right and business but it was clear she hated the previous government
@@RupertBear412it's okay man. I have no idea what any of their political affiliations are but I am pretty sure if someone doesn't hate the previous government they cannot be aware of the damage they have done to all of us. As awful as Starmer is, I know there is more genuine good MPs under labour than the tories, for now at least. There is more hope of a breakthrough now than anytime since they became popular, some internet whispers hinting before the year is out we could get an announcement.
