The Secret Sin Invading Christianity 

There was an enormous amount of peace when I realized that the reality of Almighty God wasn't dependent upon my experience but on His power.

People forget the true evidence of faith: love, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. ❤️

Listening while folding laundry and the 3 year old's take away (said very solemnly with round eyes), "The lady says we need to obey God." That's it. 😄

No longer an “experience” seeking Christian. I AM A BELIEVER OF YESHUA. He is enough.

Seeking God is one thing. Seeking "spiritual experiences" fails to take into account just how many evil spirits there are out there!

People don't need to have spiritual experiences. Knowing that God will never leave us or forsake us should be enough to sustain us through the trials of life.

Thank you so much for helping me, I have no feelings at the moment, I'm struggling to read the Bible and I just feel flat and am finding it hard to pray. You've helped me understand that despite this, I am not abandoned by God and He still loves me 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😊

You are hitting the nail right on the head. As someone who worked in Healing Rooms for seven years, I came to notice that certain leaders were addicted to dramatic manifestations, and were gratified by people falling down or shrieking or laughing uncontrollably. That was a measure of how much power we had or didn't have. If people know that a pastor or leader craves manifestations, they will oblige and fake it. It's been a relief to me to have left that hyper atmosphere, and concentrate on Christ, his love, his sacrifice, his worth, and the truth of the gospel. That is more wonderful than any experience we may have, as Peter says in 2 Peter 1:16-19.

I was spiritually and emotionally tormented for years by the well-intentioned hyper-charismatics and when I was old enough to recognize the TOXICITY of chasing after supernatural highs they said were supposed to be normal parts of my Christian walk (that I was never experiencing mind you), I had to walk through a dark valley of mistrust for my brothers and sisters in Christ. THANK GOD He created me to question and critically think! He faithfully walked with me through my anger, encouraged me with truth, and challenged my bitterness toward the church. And it is SO validating (quite frankly) to hear these words out of your mouth, Melissa. I believe this is one of the many, actual threats to Christians, especially those who struggle with or were brought up in new age/thought beliefs. May the Lord continue to give us clarity of mind and boldness to speak up about teaching perversions of theology.

I love this commentary, because I’ve seen churches that were OBSESSED with the prophetic. Everyone had to be prophetic. Every gift had to be prophetic. The way you operated in your gift had to be prophetic. It was an unhealthy attachment to the supernatural. We call everything a miracle, when true miracles do not occur routinely. I agree with Melissa, when are we going to get back to rooting ourselves in the word of God, teaching people the Bible, and spreading the Gospel? I love the supernatural and the gifts of the Spirit, but we need balance.

This is the explanation I needed! I had supernatural experiences and dreams before and I wanted more....to see more. Right now I don't have. I saw people speaking or praying in tongues and I was wondering why I can't do that. Now I understand that God is with me even if I don't have dreams,visions or speaking in tongues. Thank you. 😊

I often hear testimonies of Christians who had supernatural experiences when they first came to Christ. When I came to Christ I didn’t have the supernatural experience. I was just like clearly the path of destruction I was on is not working out for me, I need you take over God, because I can’t keep this up. And from there things changed.

Our pastor says, If you want to encounter God, you have to get in The Word!

You verbalized what I have been feeling in my spirit for years; I have noticed that people who constantly seeks new spiritual "highs" really lack Biblical insight and knowledge. These same people so often place higher priorities on their experiences and feelings than the Word of God. Thank you so much for keeping us "in-line." Blessing to you and your family!!

I hear "don't put God in a box" way too often. I'm so tired of it. My response is always just as you said. The Bible is the box!!! He gave us that box. Thank you for your videos! Always truth filled 🙏

God speaks in a still, small voice. I’ve had some amazing “spiritual experiences” through reading His word. I’m sure some of you know what I’m talking about. I’m in awe of the things He shows me.

I needed this, I have been comparing myself to other Christians for so long it has become habit for me. You have no idea how much this message was for me! Thank you for always opening my eyes and giving me information that I can think about. You rock!

Playtime is OVER . God is calling out His Remnant. Thank you, Melissa

I love the association of this with idolatry, it makes great sense. My favorite sermon from years ago was about leaning to walk faithfully in the silent seasons of our life. I was struggling in the silence at the time and this message gave me such hope to keep holding on. It was a beautiful time of growth in my life. Thank you for discussing this!!!

This gives me something to think about. I'm in a season right now where I feel like I'm not hearing from God at all. Intellectually I know it's me, not Him, but I still internalize this as punishment or like I'm being ignored or something because the experience aspect seems to be missing from my personal life. "Is Jesus enough without the experiences?" That's a good one. Thank you.

Nice job, Melissa! Sometimes we make things all about "me" instead of about God. God never promised us feel-good experiences. He told us to put Him first, which means that He comes before me. And when we seek supernatural experiences or feelings, it opens the door to idol worship - a door that satan is happy to enter. Satan only needs an invitation and he will give us lots of "great" experiences to suck is into his world and away from God. We can't be guided by our feelings - we need to trust in God and allow Him to guide us.

I was a child when I was invited to a bethel centered group (with adults) at my own church. It messed me up for a long time. I got out! Praise God! But this theology hurts people!

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God💗

I needed to hear this.I was always like , “i can’t speak in tongues so I’m not knowing God like I profess I do, I always wanted to have feelings to know God is with me. But I was wrong, and this video showed me.

Addiction to the rush is absolutely right. You're missing one reason that people fall for this stuff..... it makes them feel special. You have special revelation, you can pray protection or pray to have it removed. You become a member of an elite group of the enlightened. Someone who is normally shunned or ignored for whatever reason, is now elite. I agree with most of what you have to say. You're totally spot on. I have to deal with new age christianity all the time because of where I live, and some of my family members. You keep missing this one enormous appeal of nearby Redding, and a location north of me that's managed to stay off of everybody's radar so far. (Let's hope it stays that way! 4-square gone amuck!). You can go to one of these places, no high school diploma, minimum wage job, no friends, a nobody. After going to one of these places and getting some experiences under your belt, now you got Holy Fire, you've got Special Revelation, you've got a Calling. For the first time in your life, you matter. You're special. Its a huge draw that usually gets ignored.

I think some of the overemphasis on emotion and spiritual experience comes from staying as "baby Christians" relying on the soft food of spiritual experience instead of the solid food of God's word and trust in that. I don't seek after the spiritual experiences from my early walk with God as I no longer need it to ground me in trusting Him. I have mature to relying on scripture and doctrine and focusing on Christ and his work. I think this is what was meant in part by Paul and Peter when they ground in their letters about wishing to speak of the deeper things of God but the readers were not ready for the solid food.

On the other side I'd say there is also idolatry of theology

I recently heard a good word from John Thomas: “the prophetic is part of Christianity but it’s not the only part.”

I used to feel I wasn't good enough, or not quite there yet because I had not yet been filled with the holy spirit. But then I heard a sermon and realized I'm doing fine with my relationship with the Lord, and it's his timing when that will happen. Just keep with him and keep moving forward in your relationship and he will decide. It's a relationship, relationships grow, let it. ♡

2 corinthians 5:7 "we walk by Faith not by sight"

In CHRIST ALONE,, ALL OTHER GROUND IS SINKING SAND...

This woman is sound and speaks wisely and from the truth of the Bible. I really like her.

My friends and I actually formed 4 groups that were like this in the first 2 years of my faith ( at different time periods) . It was amazing in the beginning but as time went on it led to me personally getting depressed and I almost committing suicide because I was not the people who had the very cool and amazing spiritual gifts any way praise the Lord for his grace that I made it out of there. am now more interested in God's word than spiritual gifts. I would rather never speak in tongues than lose the word.

One of the troubles of the Jews was always wanting a sign. There's people like that today, too. I've even heard of people believing a person can't be saved without having a mystical experience. That isn't in scripture. Scripture says we're saved by believing and says nothing about any need for mystical experiences as proof of salvation.

I'm 76 years young. I've seen a lot over the years and have been part of some of it. I think you are spot on sister. James Dobson wrote a book maybe 35-40 years ago called "Feelings, Can You Trust Them?" I never read it but that title stuck with me to this day. There are times when His love and peace fill me but I don't make them thing to seek. To be still and know He is GOD and what He did for me is enough. Thank you for your ministry!

I wish I only knew this growing up. I spent so much time questioning just how much God truly loved me. I was tormented trying to figure out why I was not experiencing all these 'greater gifts,' and if I was truly saved, I should be a pro by now. I did not know that Jesus alone was even a thing. So thankful God opened by eyes.

10 seconds before you said, "Pride", I said, "It's also PRIDE." My teenager: "I'd love to see you both in a room together." Me: "We'd never come out." 🤣

"God put us in a box...it's the Bible....it's box-y" 😂😂😂 You crack me up. Love this message! I've been seeking balance in this area, I get very emotional about God and His grace, but I honestly don't have "experiences" like others talk about. It's led me to feel lacking at times, but I continue to seek Him anyway. Just started a book called Blessed are the Misfits about this topic (for Christian introverts, analytical people, etc....), may be a good read if you haven't read it yet! Thanks for all you do 😊💜🙏

The apostle Paul spoke to this kind of thing in Colossians where outside teachers were trying to "sell" special knowledge that was only available from them - "In Christ alone" refutes this thinking. Too much of today's preaching appeals to the emotions and seeks a higher experience - my faith is based on the finished work of Christ not how I feel or think I should feel. Good video.

I appreciate this message. I've always thought something was wrong with my faith or my relationship with God because I never have any "experiences". Sometimes I'll get a bit teary eyed when praying or singing worship music, and I might feel peaceful, but I've never "experienced" anything intensively like some people claim to have every Sunday

Its a coping mechanism as well. Escapism...

This is the trap of the charasmatic new age movement. "What's in it for me?" That's an inverted view of Christianity that's supposed to be for the glory of God and service to our fellow man. God becomes our servant instead of us being His.

Honestly, this is the best video of yours that i have seen, i felt very convicted and i wanna change this because its not just that it creates pride in us I think it also destroy us somehow. thank you so much for sharing. You're right, Jesus should be enough for us and i dont need supernatural experience as proof that God loves us. 🤍

Thank you for this!! For a long time I felt like I wasn't truly saved and wasn't truly a Christian because I didn't "feel it" like so many others. It seemed like everyone else was always having such high emotional experiences from God, but not me. I thought there was something wrong with me and I didn't have enough faith. It's so damaging!

This isn't funny, but why did I laugh at "hopscotch". On the real though, I can 100% relate to feelings of pride at 9:25 and being in that mindset. It was part of the deception and the lack of gospel that supernatural works were needed as evidence of Christ's reality and my salvation.

Thank you again Melissa. You have no idea what a blessing this video is to me this morning. I’ve felt so alone and have prayed for the conformation and comfort of knowing that I am not alone in my struggle with this.

What’s concerning me about this is that so few are sharing and speaking on this powerful and necessary discussion. I deeply appreciate this on so many levels. So many are missing real life in Christ for so many wrong reasons. And that question: if you never had a supernatural experience, would Jesus be enough?! This post hits so much on the head.

This is an insightful analogy, and one I intend to ponder. I think you’re spot-on. 👍🏻 There's an old Gaither Vocal Band song that has a line that I return to over and over. "I long so much to feel the warmth that others seem to know. But if I never feel a thing, I claim Him even so. I believe. Help Thou mine unbelief..." God's Word is true regardless of what I feel. God's love is real, regardless of whether I *feel* loved. God hasn't promised to give me ecstatic experiences here on earth. What He HAS promised is that when this life is over, I will spend eternity with Him rejoicing and praising in an existence my finite mind cannot comprehend. I'll take that over an emotional adrenaline rush every time.

This is very encouraging cause I'm not one of those people who have had lots of spiritual experiences and because I was online and seeing so many people say that if you don't have these experiences then you aren't seeking God enough or you're not serious about Jesus, was getting to me. And I was thinking, if I was really even a Christian anymore, because while I did (and do) see God working in my life, I didn't have those experiences. I was even beginning to question if I had the Holy Spirit. It was a depressing and distressing time. Thank you for this video :))! It's a great encouragement.

John's experience with God in writing The Book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ, was SO unique and special that a warning was written in it: " If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book". How many people have tried to go where John went on their own, as though they could enter in there whenever they wanted to?!?! We must heed the written word, to abide well with the Word made flesh, who dwelt among us, most of the time, in very common ways. Always allow for the supernatural, but "walk in wisdom towards them without".

From a die hard charismatic and non - cessationist, very well put.

I'm so thankful for my church family. We've had people we don't even know come up and say they could feel the presence of God the moment they walked in, but it wasn't this mystical or goofy feeling, it was just because a group of imperfect people who love Jesus got together and pray and worship and dive into his Word. Our other campus pastor's have asked our pastor what the secret is. Why are we seeing a move of God on our little campus. Our pastor said it's not about our church or anything we're doing. God receives all glory for any growth and anything miraculous. My pastor mentioned the other day that "nothing kills a move of God faster when the focus becomes man centered and not Jesus centered" Humility is key. I believe our church has a balanced, not perfect, but balanced view on the supernatural yet still recognizing the struggles we're all dealing with but that's why we come together, to encourage one another, pray for one another, laugh with one another, cry with one another, just do life together and in doing so going out and sharing with others that same love, hope, and restoration that we are receiving in Jesus.

Love this, "God put us in a box..it's called the Bible, and it's boxy!" For so many years I would hear this saying, "Don't put God in a box," so we can hear from Him, and let Him "move" in our lives. But, as you said, He put us in a box..He has given us His word, a glorious prescription for godly living!

After 18 years in Word of Faith teaching, all I can say is Amen and Amen! I pray God uses this video to reach so many ❤

When someone continues to walk in the flesh, rather than spirit, they will tend to make decisions based on their last strongest emotion. As you said, chasing a feeling rather than seeking the true God of the bible. Our emotional reponse and that flesh man within us must be laid at the cross. Great message Melissa!

Amen ❤ that's how it is! Scripture is our solid ground and it's dangerous to claim people are "putting God into a box" just for staying satisfied in the simple truth and not being open to new revelations and experiences not found in the Bible!

I lived with the thought that “God loves me if I can feel Him” for a very long time. But I believed it stemmed from daddy issues. My dad didn’t hug me or show affection unless we were in church. It has crippled me. I know what the Bible says yet I have felt abandoned and unloved since leaving that movement. 😢

I knew this was going to be good...I was once burned out by the hyper charismatic life. I will not deny that God did and still does amazing things, but I NEED the word of God to be the main thing in my life. I'm a worship leader and I know that my place is to set the stage for the message so that people can learn to feed themselves and fall on love with the Word of God. That's how you get to know the Lord and worship becomes that much sweeter.

For years I felt the way you described and felt I wasn’t good enough and that’s why I wasn’t having these experiences but at some point in my life I realized I was wrong and I’m so thankful I did.

I was raised southern baptist and when I turned 20 I decided to turn my life back over to Christ. I started going to a small church called the Spirit Filled Baptist Church. During the first Sunday service, I noticed it was a charismatic, speaking in tongues separate in filling of the Holy Spirit doctrine believers. I never felt right about the manner of worship and the gift of tongues that I heard one member speak at every Sunday service. It was the old standard, hundala, hundala, she with a few unintelligible words in between. Of course this is one of the most common phrases people might use when speaking in tongues, and the pastor would always interpret it differently each time. I even saw it in a cartoon when I stopped going to church. I am sixty one years old and I've learned more about God and Christ after I stopped going to church. And even if I have turned back to some of my old ways in order to exist in this world and get along with most people. I could not in good conscious believe that these people were any more filled with the Holy Spirit than any other christian, and in fact, they lived for that emotional boost that they claimed other denominations that did not believe in a separate in filling of the Holy Spirit lived by. I talked to a person who went to the church the same time that I did and he told me that most of the members who were married are now divorced and others lives were a train wreck. I told a relative that is married to a man that went the Baptist Seminary to become a preacher , but decided he had a different calling from God after he went and graduated. She said she was sad to see that I got all messed up by the teachings of that church. I did not tell her this, but I always knew something was wrong with their theology. I can't say that I am filled with the holy spirit because I don't ever get an undeniable affirmation from God in any supernatural or so called spiritual way that some people claim that they have. I only have the bible as the word of God to go by. I would not go back to another church like that, or any mega church like Hillsong, or Bethel because I know what they are about. But as the old saying goes " I wouldn't have missed it for the world." Mostly for learning that God does work that way. And claiming that you are receiving something that is given by God is a very serious offense to him if it is not.

This makes perfect sense - people are always searching for the next "high"

“Spiritually twitterpated” ...that phrase tho, bravo sis, bravo 👏🏼

Melissa, honestly I don't think this is limited to the charismatic. I remember having a discussion with my grandmother who said that she didn't like my church because the preacher just taught from the Bible. She said she went to church to get energized to make it through the week. She was a Southern Baptist.

Thanks for putting into words what I was trying to say! I have a couple "spiritual" friends who are this way and treat me like an immature Christian because I just won't speak in tongues. I couldn't figure out what I was thinking, but you just said it!! Thank you!

Twitterpated. I'm glad someone else besides me remembers that word. lol

Melissa you are dead on ! Thank you for your honesty, study, boldness in a very loving way!

Thanks for putting that out Melissa 👍i have had a few supernatural moments in my life the first one was 40 years ago when i got saved 😇 but i had one a few weeks later where I felt the presence of God when praying it was an incredible experience that i remember to this day but have never had again 😥 but looking back on my life i can see the hand of God on my life directing my life even when i tried to run away like Jonah He drew me back with love 🙏😇

Whenever we compare ourself to others, it is a bad road to travel! However, I am so thankful for the supernatural experiences that He has blessed me with and it does not have to be one way or the other.

I am charismatic and I totally understand what you are saying! Blessings Sister!

I really needed this. Struggling with my feelings and not feel Gods presence. I went through a year of heavy doubt and I haven't fully come back from that I'm still struggling. I used to have such strong convictions about God, his word and even my experiences which did line up with the word of God; but what happened is I felt special, and more spiritual as you said here and became proud. How can one come back from this? My heart feels so closed off. I pray and read the bible but and then doubt comes back. I believe I'm saved and then I don't. its an up and down I used to always feel conviction when those things arose that I was indeed a child of God because of my trust in Jesus, but now my mind is all over the place and not focused on Him but on my feelings... What can I do?

I was JUST talking to my friends about this!! Perfect timing. Thank you for confirming what I’ve been realizing looking back on my charismatic conference-hopping childhood!

I am one who believes in going deeper with God but by His rules. I love how balanced your delivery was. Bless you.

Hi Mélissa. Watching you from France. Thank you so much for all you do. Here in France. All the topics concerning the many danger in christianity are not so exposed. God bless you. Valérie

Peter’s comments on the mount of transfiguration (MAT 17:4) come to mind. I wonder if they might apply here, if this wasn’t at least partially what was going on in Peter”s mind; idolizing the experience he was having instead of the revelation God was giving of who Jesus was through the experience.

There are some days occasionally where I'd love a supernatural experience with God. But, then I tell him, thank you so much that I simply believe and know his word to be true. Jesus is my rock and I don't need a supernatural experience because he has given me the faith to know his word is true.

I am a self-professed recovering charismatic. I spent 17 years of my life in the movement and moved my young family to Tulsa, where I graduated from the pastoral program at Kenneth E. Hagin's Rhema Bible Training Center. The constant seeking for emotional experiences, spiritual giftings or a "word" from the Lord were part of what caused me to start questioning the belief system. I saw so much destruction in the lives of those who, once motivated by the promise of power and relief from life's struggles, were crushed by failed promises. It's a sick form of idolatry that equates success with spirituality. Every teaching was an attempt to find some new profundity in scripture, as the profound simplicity of the Gospel seemed apparently insufficient. The sovereignty of God is strangely lacking from nearly all church doctrine. Whereas Charismatic teaching promised so much, the reality was nothing compared to the freedom experienced when I finally had to courage to see it for what it is. I left Charismania and found my home in a true, bible-believing church. One leaves with so much brainwashing tainting a true view of scripture that it can make the transition a long and painful one. I so much wish there was a support network for those who've left or are considering leaving the movement.

Two new phrases that will pepper my speech: "Spiritual twitterpation." "Keyboard warriors."

Wow Melissa... Thank you for saying the hard things.. full of compassion💜So true! God bless you.

We do have spiritual experiences all the time: the Spirit of the Lord Jesus dwells in me.

Don’t believe everything you feel. 😉 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” ‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭17:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Thank God that through the shedding of the blood of Jesus, and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, we are able to have our sinful heart transformed. “But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord.” ‭‭II Corinthians‬ ‭3:18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

I did NOT know I wanted hopscotch with angels -- but now I do!! As always, thanks for your videos.

I was brought up Baptist but had been involved in the charismatic for many years. About a year and a half ago, I started studying the Bible in a way like I never had. I recently left the charismatic church. What you said in the video was very on point of what I saw a lot of in churches in recent years. I'm not a cessationist, I believe the gifts are for today...but I've seen the idolitry of the gifts and supernatural experience a lot in the charismatic church. I think this is your best video yet. Thank you!

Talk about “mountaintop experiences,” Peter had the ultimate one on the Mount of Transfiguration, but what does he say about it in 2 Peter 1:16-21. He found the “prophetic word more fully confirmed” in Scripture. Well spoken, Melissa.

Thank you so much for this. Honestly, I needed this. It has been a long time since I have sensed this closeness with God so I thought I was not right with Him. So, I would pray and read my Bible, repent of every single sin I have committed (not living in sin though, but sure to confess when I realize I have sinned), etc and still far away. Now, I am seeing that I need to continually seek God, NOT feelings. Even if the feelings don’t come back, I can live by faith that I am in the sweet spot of His Will. Thanks again........I needed this.

Greetings Melissa! Thanks for speaking about this topic... Don't stop living for HIM

Good word Melissa!!! God took me on a journey to clean up the prophetic in me...he asked me.. Did it bear fruit in my life? Having to judge revelation...I found much of it unfruitful...keep up the challenge...so we can judge the motives of our heart!!!!

We’ve been conditioned through our experiences. My takeaway is that we balance ourselves with the help of the Holy Spirit. I’ve seen believers at both extremes. Very top heavy with biblical education and very top heavy with emotionalism. We have to constantly pray for one another but also teach and admonish each other. Thanks for sharing Melissa!

very very good chat, thanks for pressing in.

I’m so happy you made this video, I thought that getting closer to God was to have spiritual experiences, God bless you and may God keep using you in a great way for His honor and glory.

I’m so beyond Thankful for your videos! 🙌🏼❤️‍🔥🙌🏼

Your relationship analogy was excellent!

God is enough! Oh how I'm encouraged by what you've said! This has really encouraged me! Thanks Melissa! Shalom.

Thank you so much for sharing this important topic that's rarely discussed in Christian circles. Getting addicted to "spiritual highs" can happen so easily and certain people like to sell you the tools on how...

Awesome video. Spot on too. Honestly, it’s me. About a week or 2 ago some chick made a comment about how unbelievers need signs and wonders, it really bothered me, but it got me thinking ( the same thing you asked). If I never had another experience, is Jesus enough? It’s a very good and valid question. One I’ve been searching for. First half of my life , I ran from feelings, second half I put them on a pedestal, now I’m starting to understand that they just are. They are important but TRUTH needs to be my foundation, over feelings, over “facts”, over it all. Jesus MUST be first, if I never get another feel good experience again, Jesus is still it. ( it actually scares me to write this too, Bc I’ve based my whole life on feelings/or lack of and this requires a whole new way…a “not my way, but God’s” ) appreciate this content. Thank you.❤️🙂

Powerful conversations. Well done Melissa

Equating experience to salvation- so good. I always weighed my lack of spiritual experience to me doing something wrong. I gave up and stopped doing anything. I’m so thankful for your ministry!

This is so good!!! I have been in places where I was the only one who didn’t/couldn’t speak in tongues and I did feel like a second class Christian because of that (and also because of battles with mental health) and it was really hard. But it has felt like God asked me what my motives were for wanting to speak in tongues and they were all selfish, show-off-y motives for myself and had nothing to do with Him or glorifying Him and that was really convicting

Thank you for this💙🙏🏽🕊

Thank you so much for this video. Because of this I almost walked away from my faith in God, thinking He did not love me as much as other Christians. Then God opened my eyes when I started reading His Word.🤗

WOW!!! This is one of the best teaching I’ve heard on this !!! Thank you !!