The Secret To Punk Rock Bass... According To FAT MIKE!

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@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

🎸Make killer bass lines in a matter of seconds! sugarpillcovers.wordpress.com/punk-bass-midi-pack/

@ghosttownreview1531 11 месяцев назад

"We make other people sound better". Bingo. Quality bass playing will definitely elevate the sound of the rest of the band.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

100%.

@ScottCoates87 4 месяца назад

Well put, I thinks it's why hot water music works so well

@halmycroft194 11 месяцев назад

I like this a lot but will continue to be a fairly aggressive fingerstyle player all the same.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

You do you, haha!

@quasarthelasermen 11 месяцев назад

Worked for Geddy Lee....

@unknownmusicman 11 месяцев назад

He almost always starts with an upstroke too, which arguably contributes to his sound just as much as playing lightly. Some of his best riffs are almost impossible to play if you start with a downstroke.

@JustDontCareee 11 месяцев назад

that’s his signature style which I like and never want to use

@unknownmusicman 11 месяцев назад

@@JustDontCareee I agree. If you've already learned in a traditional way then it's not very practical, but I suppose it does give him a unique sound.

@loganknapp8905 2 месяца назад

Think about it. Stand up bass. Starts plucking then slap. Most finger players pluck up. It makes a huge difference with a plectrum to start with an upstroke.

@samson6707 11 месяцев назад

As a sidenote, Its really good that you dont play music during the title cards. Its easier to focus on the topic this way.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

Glad to hear that!

@Andyanddiana467 11 месяцев назад

YES! Let your amp do the work. You'll save your hands, and get better speed, control, and intonation.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

For sure!

@mastod0n1 11 месяцев назад

Dunlop nylon .60mm picks have been my go-to for years when I'm playing with a pick

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

They've always been my go-to picks as well!

@juanchicejas5087 11 месяцев назад

I used to be a really hardplayer, one time at a rehearsal I broke the E string😂 I found this mike's video a few months ago and really made sense, now I play softly with a 0.5 or 0.7 pick when I want a warmer sound

@rome8180 5 месяцев назад

Mike plays with 0.6 Dunlop nylon picks. I was really pleased when I learned that because those are the picks I've been using for years. Granted, I do sometimes play with my fingers. But I still play lightly no matter what.

@tomasfrkal6362 11 месяцев назад

Yeah! Great video! Fat Mike has a pretty unique right hand technique, and some of his bass lines are a treasure. Sometimes it must be kinda hard to play and sing at the same time.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

🤘

@hellosight95 6 месяцев назад

it is, thats why most times live he often barely plays the bass OR sings haha!

@SkeptixPrdxn 11 месяцев назад

Love fat mikes style. He is legit original AF.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

Definitely, super talented bassist!

@DavidRFIT 11 месяцев назад

The question is: either when you are recording or playing live a fast, energetic song, are you able to convey the emotion of the song by forcing yourself to pick this lightly? Picking as the mood of the song brings you to pick wouldn't result in a more raw but geniune outcome? I'm asking.

@rome8180 11 месяцев назад

There's a difference between playing live and in the studio though. You can be a little looser with your technique live because it's a performance. But in the studio, you want to nail everything technically. The "emotion" can be added in other ways. If you notice, Mike's bass playing still sounds plenty aggressive in recordings because of the tone he uses. There's a little grit and lots of top end. That, to my mind anyway, conveys more of the necessary energy than playing hard would. The mix engineer can also add aggression with the right compressor settings and EQ moves. I also think an "emotional" performance is probably less important on bass than other instruments. Like Mike said, you want consistency. For vocals and lead guitar, emotion is more important.

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

@@rome8180 Better than I could have ever put it 😂

@DavidRFIT 11 месяцев назад

@@rome8180nicely put, kind Sir.

@alanoparsone 11 месяцев назад

@@rome8180 Exaclty. Bass is not important. 😂

@mike_tkgchs 11 месяцев назад

you might want lighter strokes when recording in the studio and you still get a gritty sound by the tone and compressors. live, you can get away with harder strumming.

@drschultz 11 месяцев назад

You can make playing lightly less critical if you use a lighter pick, I use the orange ones - same natural compression effect

@rome8180 5 месяцев назад

Mike does both. He uses a 0.6 pick, which is pretty thin.

@blameitonben 8 месяцев назад

So do you think Mike Dirnt fakes playing hard on the bass? He always looks so aggressive but sounds so good.

@SugarpillProd 8 месяцев назад

Haha no not at all. They just have very different styles of playing.

@joaniepeters2565 5 месяцев назад

Mikes right, you can naturally figure that out while recording. He’s a great underrated bass player in the player community

@LetsGoMetsGo33 5 месяцев назад

NGL, the hard picking sounded awesome to me! Like some street punk type shit. And NOFX-but-streetpunk is a sound I'd like to hear!

@SpongeBath_ShitPants 6 месяцев назад

Jay Bentley has always been an aggressive picker, and there are no discernible problems with pitch disparity when listening to Bad Religion.

@kphoenix137 11 месяцев назад

Possible to use pitch correction over a bass track to allow aggressive picking? Although one thing i will say is aggressive picking does cut too much into the mix

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

You could do, as long as you're only playing single notes, but I honestly think you'd just be making unnecessary work for yourself in the long run.

@kanister21 11 месяцев назад

Well, that's very interesting

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

🤯

@therealkakitron 10 месяцев назад

I've always played bass like that. Fast and with soft picks. I hate the change in pitch when you hit the strings too hard.

@rome8180 5 месяцев назад

I also think it's easier to play fast lines if you use a thin pick. Just think about the physics behind it. The thicker the pick, the more resistance as you pick through the string.

@therealkakitron 5 месяцев назад

@@rome8180 definitely. Thinner picks flex easier, faster, and give you a more even sound, less peaks and valleys, almost like compression.

@ritadamayanti2087 3 месяца назад

What is a good pick to use for punk bassing

@SugarpillProd 3 месяца назад

I like the orange Dunlop's personally. I think they're 0.60mm. Anything that bends slightly when you pluck the string usually gives you a nice "clacky" sound, as opposed to thicker picks which makes your tone sound a bit more dull. Hope that helps!

@MisterFatherSir310 27 дней назад

Or tune slightly flat so when you hit hard its in tune

@xxxgabaxxx 8 месяцев назад

Just started playing bass in a band, after 20 years with the electric guitar. I was certain I should use a hard pick, but after seeing this video I bought Fat Mike's signature picks hahaha. However, Mike Dirnt seems pretty aggressive. He can't be using 0.60mm picks, right?

@SugarpillProd 8 месяцев назад

I wasn't aware Fat Mike had signature picks, haha. I think the difference with Green Day is that both Billie and Mike hit hard, plus overall, they're playing much more mid-tempo songs compared to a band like NOFX. So they could easily tune a little flat, to make up for how the strings will naturally go sharp from those hard hits. With NOFX, they're playing a lot faster and more technical stuff, so Mike playing soft and giving them a solid, in tune foundation really helps the band a lot more. It just works on a case by case basis I think. There is no "one rule" that suits every band or every player.

@rileycronin-schneider8101 11 месяцев назад

Great video! It seems like Mike Dirnt is a pretty hard picker, and his tone is great!

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

Thanks! Either works, but I think Mike's technique is great for the fast skate punk stuff, instead of the more mid-tempo style songs that Green Day usually do.

@rileycronin-schneider8101 11 месяцев назад

@@SugarpillProd Do you think Dirnt is a hard picker?

@rileycronin-schneider8101 11 месяцев назад

@@SugarpillProd Do you think Dirnt is a hard picker?

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

@@rileycronin-schneider8101 I'd say he's more percussive, than just a very hard picker. He's certainly not making the notes go sharp, if you listen to his bass tracks, so I think he has pretty good control over it, in the same way as Far Mike does.

@adamcolbertmusic 11 месяцев назад

I don't consider myself a bassist although I am a multi-instrumentalist that can play bass pretty well. But I just thought about something regarding "hard picking" and causing it to go sharply out of tune; that it's not necessarily from "hard" picking so much as "deep picking", that you're digging the pick so deep into the string that it doesn't actually release until the string has REALLY been stretched, causing an excessive bouncing back. In contrast, you can also pick hard but only allow the tip of the pick to graze the string, that way you get a strong attack without it going sharp. Personally, I use Dunlop Tortex "Sharps" (a very pointy model of guitar pick) and the purple ones which are color coded as 1.14mm. I really like to articulately "prick" the strings. I find that this allows me to get strong, loud, clean notes. A final factor to consider is the thickness of the strings and whether you're playing in standard tuning or half-step down etc. Anyway I just wanted to share my thoughts about it 😀

@guop59 11 месяцев назад

which is that video where fat mike is talking about his technique?

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

Should be the one on LoudWire's channel, where he's talking about his favourite bass lines.

@roymastin104 11 месяцев назад

🤟🤟🤟

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

🤘

@alanduncan1980 10 дней назад

His use of a soft pick is more so for speed, and not so much for how it sounds versus a hard pick.

@SugarpillProd 10 дней назад

I think it's a mixture tbh. If you AB a thin pick and a thick one, the thick ones do sound noticeably more dull than thin ones. So based on the context of music you're making, one may work better than the other.

@dereksmith2929 11 месяцев назад

Pro tip: tune your strings sharp or flat to compensate for your aggressive picking 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just kidding. It doesn’t work, especially if you switch to finger style mid set and forget to retune. Not that I know from personal experience…. 😂

@SugarpillProd 11 месяцев назад

Haha that tip does actually work sometimes, but maybe more in a studio settings rather than live, when you can tune in-between takes.