The series is called "Stop!! Hibari-Kun!" And yet she never, in fact, stops. So, which is it 

Damn, he was a trans woman who felt she couldn't transition :( at least that gave us Hibari

ayo? 🤨🏳️‍⚧️?

@@MissPoplarLeafreminds me of the authors of cybersix (please appreciate me finding the name I am very stupid it took me to long). Well, it was just a theory by the person analyzing the cartoon and comics, But If I remeber correctly, one of the author’s implied that “Anyone would want to be a woman duh!” and they had several plotlines about crossdressing against their will or ‘accidentally turning into a woman” but being completely ok with it, even elated. You know how sometimes you make uo fantasies of things you want to happen to you but without any of the blame and it being explained as “well, the universe wanted it that way :D”. But that’s just a theory, a bullshit psychological theory :D

theres so many japanese amab manga writers who dont really want to transition purely because they werent brought up like a girl/woman which is so sad imo because i'd like to think they'd be very happy if they did transition but their beliefs on gender is preventing that.

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It’s also probably because it’s the 80s and everyone wore sweat shirts and shorts

wonderful

yes literally

I NEED a continuation

@ Nuh-uh

I love her hair style and those deep blue almost purple eyes she's just so cute

​@she is a girl

*his*

Of course you can not love him... he's trans

Something tells me that if they rebooted it they would either make her a female assigned from birth or make her a full on comedic trap character. They would 100000000% destroy her identity and disrespect her beyond redemption

@@reader_of_instructions if it's hisashi eguchi it wouldn't be and if it wasn't him the show would be meaningless anyway

@@reader_of_instructionstbh, as time passes on, hibari might be portrayed the same way she did in her original manga with how much more japan are discussinv trans rights

I agree, but did people forget the Yakuza? they would throw a fit.

i think in the final chapter she isnt trans, like hibari, her reaosnign for dressing like a man is because she wants to be the strong son her father wanted. its in a similar but different vain

@@captainstabbin5374 Uhhh. I disagree.

you cant "disagree" its a fact, the chracter literally states that she wants to be the strong son her father always wanted, not real gender dysphoria@@vio2626

@@captainstabbin5374 *just no.* it's wild seeing the incomprehensible lengths people go taking one of the only animes or animated shows or even video media in general for the time, that doesn't use gnc ppl as a freakshow to point at/get frightened by or the butt of a joke, and arguing they're not actually trans bc the language of the time didn't say it explicitly as such, and worse to assume it's some fuckin crossdresser or femboy or trap or futa or new-half type shit is revolting i'm not saying you are going out of your way or doing it deliberately and i'm not making that argument for the trans guy bc frankly i haven't finished the show, it's pretty short i binge like 4 episodes every year and even rewatch those a few times bc i know once it's over it is, but i've seen ppl make the argument for hibari and it's just blatantly wrong, (i'd go as far to argue hisashi eguchi is trans, but i won't actually claim it or treat it like a debate bc that's a real person) but reading interviews and comparing to my own experiences & feelings and comparing my experiences & feelings with hibari there's a resoundingly clear yes for the character and you said ",like hibari," which is what start this emotionally charged reply i'm going to compare this to gwen from atsv bc i feel like there's something to be said, it's undeniable there is supposed to be trans-coding behind the character, the poster above her door, the water colors in more than one of her scenes, the dynamic of her and her dads relationship and it's growth, the allegory of her relationship to the spider-identify could be argued as inherently trans as she views it as something that keeps her ostracized from society, and hidden to protect the people she loves and herself, and how she sees the spider-society initially, full of people like her, i think it's safe to say they'll never officially say she trans nor do i really want them to, but to some ppl she is and it's a huge thing for them, and it's something they feel they have to defend for themselves bc ppl are against that, there's a huge group of spider-man purists of all kinds, and some of them even have justified reasons for feeling that way, that is something i think it's sometimes valid to interject about in a respectful way if someone is trying to tell other ppl how to view her, it's the difference between "she'll always be trans in my eyes" v.s. "no she is trans you have to view her and call her as such etc." (this in itself is a small group of younger trans ppl with stronger opinions still figuring what hills are worth dying on it was supposed to be a simple example but i don't want to be misunderstood) hibari however has a lot more than subtext, hibari has significantly less of an audience the "purists" group even less small, i get some cis guys watched it then and now, and relate to hibari but are just femme and don't want to be told relating makes them trans but it doesn't, like with bridget (but obviously the differences in being raised as a girl against will bc they weren't supposed to have boys which is why ppl think it's a disservice for bridget to now be trans which again is a different argument, better footing, if anything it should just go to show that hibari ain't the one, there's like nothing to stand on) but hibari is straight up trans, she's written trans, she presents trans the family dynamic is trans it is like the perfect middle point between "great luck they're excepting and immediately adapting" and "uh oh guess i'm ostracized and ridiculed and invalidated possibly kicked out and/or abused" it's as "real" as it'll probably ever be presented in media bc i haven't seen anything as such since as someone with divorced parents and w/ siblings, i got both sides it baffles me what brought my parents together given how close-minded my mom and her side are compared to my dads, so yeah i'm a little too deep into it this, this is such a wall of text and the most chronically online thing i've done but i'm just going to copy this so the next time i might see someone say she's not trans and they're actually an asshole who deserves it i can use it throw some insults and embrace the chronic online-ness

all of this was typed out as nonsense, the anime is almost entirely filler, and does not follow the manga in any way shape or form, the language used isnt the issue, this manga is one of my favorite manga of all time, and the anime is just ok but the character we are discussing isnt even in the anime so idk what you are on about, . the character of hibari, is trans. i dont know what compelled you to write such a huge long thing like this but its very clear that hibari is amab who identifies as a woman. but that has absolutely nothing to do with this conversation or the character in question, eguchi stopped the manga and quit it so we only got one single chapter with the new character, and it is a woman who wraps up her breasts with wrapping and dresses like a boy to look tough and in the story is said to be doing so to be the son her father never had. of course eguchi was writing this character in as a second love interest comedic one at least, for the main two characters, but it never got far, idk how you took " like hibari" as bad, its stating hibari IS trans, but this new character is not, at least not in the same way. @@tropiccheekss

Agreed but its important to note that millions were in her shoes then too- they just didnt know how to word it or couldnt because of the dangers that could follow

To add on to the “male-to-female” comment. There are a lot of boyish or masc female characters in Japanese media but they rarely every cross the line in a gender non binary or trans adjacent behavior. They tend to maintain some “girlish” or “feminine” quality to explicitly mark them as women. I figure this has a lot to do with traditional Japanese views on patriarchy.

@@Tortle-Man that lgbt awareness stuff in the west is a reaction to the extreme homophobia and transphobia perpetuated by abrahamic cults transphobia in japan more conservatism/conformity and ethnocentrism, vs transphobia in a place like the US which is political/ideological and a subset of their increasing science denialism (manufactured)

It's the same reason why gay marriage still isn't a thing despite most people not really being "homophobic". After the w wars I think our school system became "write down what is written on the chalkboard no questions asked". No critical thinking, no nothing. Just remember the dates and names a day before the test and then forget it all the next day. Really old people in Japan still sometimes have "opinions" but most... Well just don't think about it. It's often not hatred. Rather it's about not really caring.

I am a Japanese manga artist. I found your question intriguing, so I’m responding. This comment is translated into English. Very long, sorry. For Japanese people, defining someone’s (or a character's) internal gender identity with a single term can sometimes feel disrespectful. It might be because we value the freedom of one's abstract inner self. (If someone explicitly states their identity, we respect that.) When it comes to character design, entertainment aspects are significant. Mystery is a classic charm in characters, and those who don't clarify their sexual orientation possess an allure of "sexual ambiguity." Conversely, characters explicitly stated as transgender lose this sexual mystery and must be enriched with other appeals. The term "otokonoko" (男の娘) primarily describes appearance or behavior and doesn’t necessarily reflect their inner self or sexual orientation. Therefore, characters introduced as "otokonoko" and those introduced as "transgender" have different levels of appeal from the outset. This is a general view of gender in Japan or in Japanese anime and manga, I think. I never realized that such thinking could be seen as transphobic. I appreciate your comment for bringing this to my attention. Additional Note: Regarding the "male-to-female" comment as a manga artist: Many Japanese creators focus on entertaining their target readers. The situation where a "female-like male" has "very feminine traits" might be to give the character an appealing contrast. A "strong contrast" is a classic charm in character design.

It's because it is in Japan. Transphobia isn't as much of a deal there as it was (and still is) in the States.

​@@adriani9432 That's not quite right tho, transphobia still is and was quite a big issue in japan, it's just not talked about often, and many trans japanese people stay in the closet since it's so hard to come out.

@@bi-messtre2149 I see, thanks for correcting me.

@@bi-messtre2149 Which is very, logical given japans history of conformatism for basic things like even hair color.

​@@bi-messtre2149indeed, there is in fact quite a large lgbt community within japan but they're a vocal minority

Why tho, to be agent of chaos? Chaos is chaotic and could hurt people. I'd prefer to be a trans agent of love. ...I'd rather to be neithe one's agent. I want to be myself, and gender does not define me.

Thanks so much!

That would be a good title for a sequel

what 😐

@@mikebipping6166 is english not ur first lang. She is saying if ur demanding someone to stop being themselves and wear the cloths and identify as they want that ur transphobic. Pretty simple,

@@TinyBoxBin that person isn’t confused lol, all the other comments they’ve made are transphobic i think they know 🤭

@@L0rdOfThePies ugh ur right reeeeee whyyy are people mad at such dum stufffff also love ur pfp lol

whats with these surrender flag. where is the rainbow flag.

@@QWERTY-gp8fdhere’s the rainbow flag 🏳️‍🌈 👈🏾😼

whats with u? why cant u just 🏳‍🌈instead of that. @@BaldCoryxKenshinfan

@@QWERTY-gp8fd what do you mean “surrender flag”? 🏳️‍⚧️ is the trans flag

bro white flag is surrender flag. adding trans emoji afterward makes it seem like u are surrendering being trans.@@Liboo52

I think everyone agrees on this but because they ended up writing a trans character and how she positively affected a lot of ppl, self acceptance and aspiring to be Hibari is what their takeaway is, and when you interact with fiction the important thing is what you take away from it and how it will impact your real life, whether that be by having a comforting thought of a role model in your mind, watching her as a form of escapism and imaging being in her fictional world, or even ending in understanding that we should treat people in real life with kindness and respect when they show us their inner identity and how like for Hibari, they'll likely mean who they are and you can see that nothing will change who they are on the inside. So that's how it is, like you can have that banana fruit and keep telling people it's a peach cause you meant to make a peach but you're holding a banana because you made a banana, you can move on and make a real peach or you can keep trying to alter a banana into a peach but one of those options make more sense then the other.

@@hypnopompicfool985 Yeah my comment was never intended to be "Hibari isn't trans because it wasn't intended to be". Because even if it wasn't the intention, it's is obviously depicting a transwoman.

this is my favorite comment thread good job guys

I actually think she might have very well been intended to be trans from the beginning. Actually, at the end chapter of the manga, they also introduce a trans man who has started testosterone hrt, which means at the very least, the mangaka knew surprisingly much about trans people, and intended to include them in the manga. I also think the reason hormone replacement therapy was only mentioned at the end of the series was because had it been done earlier, it would've probably gotten canceled. Hibari herself in the manga doesn't just crossdress. She refers to herself as a girl/daughter literally all the time, and passes as a girl in school. Also there's a chapter where they meet guys wearing makeup and hibari says they're different from her. It doesn't have to be spelled out with the word trans to be meant as such. Also I think it makes it even more realistic. I mean I'm trans, and outside of the internet, I don't usually really use the word in conversations.

@@henkkahenrik4183 the trans guy thing was made in the 2010s version, it was an original inclusion when the author aready change his mind about how he saw Hibari. In the 80s, the author would refer hibari as things such like "a man who looks like a girl" and refer her as a "male crossdresser". Everything you said really leads to Hibari being trans and indentifying as a woman, however i believe that this was just the author being totally layman to this subject, like he probally wanted to depict a crossdresser but in the 80s people didn't knew that much, he ended depicting a transwoman. And realizing this with time, he decided to embrace that, making Hibari ultimely transgender.

Right? I had to stop the video. I was blown😂

hope youre doing weel, girl. stay strong on who you are, and the magic will happen

Congratulations on your realization hun! I’m totally going to check this manga out as well😁

bro thinks she is anime character and speaking in 3rd person 💀

⁠@@QWERTY-gp8fdGo back to grade school for reading comprehension 🤦🏻

i wish you well on your journey, sis. you are and have always been a woman, don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

God please no

@@framework333 No to which part?

Correct me if my wrong but isn’t ryuunosuke a girl? I’m pretty sure they were forced to act and dress like a boy cause their dads a POS for being pissed/ in denial he had a daughter and it gotten to a point that she’d regularly roundhouse kick him into the stratosphere screaming she was a girl if he said otherwise. And wanted to wear dresses too OH AND ATARU REGULARLY SIMPED OVER THEM TOO I TOTALLY FORGOT THAT lol (Overall Ik takahashi has other characters she’s written but I could’ve swore ryuunosukes a straight up girl with a really shitty dad)

​@@framework333 more like please yes :3

⁠@@angelar9119I mean she was kinda amab by her dad who refused to let her “come out” to those around her about her true gender. At several points many people straight up don’t believe her to be a girl, they think she’s lying or pretending. The school also refused to let her wear the school uniform and instead listens to her father about what gender presentation would be best for her. I know that she’s not by strict definition trans, but she seams like a thinly veiled metaphor for the trans experience as a whole

Ahhh thank you for such an involved response! I always really appreciate hearing your thoughts. Totally agree re: the ways in which animators could put their specific spin on key animation in older shows, and the general charm of this series in particular. Funnily enough, the actual fashion rating recording ended up being two hours with a lot more fits covered haha. I've considered editing more of it and putting it on my side channel, so I'll let you know if I do.

Hell to the no entitled AF men in womanface deserve nothing😊

Oh I wanted to watch it but was wary of "the joke is transphobia", I do not wanna be sucker punched by a crap ton of "the joke is racism"

its still a joke. plus this anime is sol u got nice trap mc so everyone is satisfied nothing offensive about it@@CassiusStelar

@@QWERTY-gp8fd you are very uncritical of media aren't you? Dude, I owned a disc of the infamous 13 Looney Tunes episodes which I used to watch regularly. Just because you (and I) can watch something with problematic elements without getting pissed doesn't mean it isn't problematic in the first place

bro i like more heinous sh,it. if anime aint got depraved stuff depicted in good light i aint liking it. parallel paradise is my favorite. this is nothing.@@CassiusStelar

@@QWERTY-gp8fd edgy

Thanks so much!

Oooof that's an annoying blunder, thanks for pointing it out!

thanks for the comment! I don't think I'd do a video on loveless. I read the manga when I was like 13 and it was very important to me in figuring out gender stuff (and the art is still some of my favourite) but I also think it's objectively like, pretty heinous haha. I know what you mean though, I think a deep dive video on it could be really good. maybe something similar to what hazel did with elfen lied....

@@pyramidinu9449 understandable! i love hazel's elfen lied video. i think loveless was probably a lot of people's elfen lied and vice versa lmao. loveless is def pretty heinous and grim-- but the way the characters were written have such dimension to them despite the kind of manga that it was... your reply made me happy! keep up the good work!!!

A white flag? Does that mean that the transformers give up?

That is wrong. Thank you friend

Yeah!!

hell yeah

I mean that doesn't always means that he wants be Trans but yeah there is a chance.

@@andrewacacia9851 I mean fair but it is still a very "not quite cis" thing to say

​@@uemochi9316Yeah,but it could also mean be as beatiful(handsome) as them.

@@stampoulisrafael5262 "yeah there is a chance" that's such a cope dog "it is really the frustration of not being born a girl that fuels my drawings" - Hisashi Eguchi , writer aritist and creator of the character hibari ozora and stop!! hbari-kun!

bro only one coping is the author. @@tropiccheekss

Do you have a link to the interview? It didn't come up in my research, but sounds great.

@@pyramidinu9449 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2a6Wqq4zifw.html&t Sorry, I was incorrect. The creator is an egg, or was at the time. He made hibari with the intent to express his gender dysphoria and desire to be a woman, but the language at the time couldn't express it properly.

a second interview here tardimarii.blogspot.com/2019/03/interview-with-hisashi-eguchi-in-sex.html

​@@mushmush4980ofc a secret troon would make an anime self insert of guess what? A troon🙄

​@@Naruto_fishcake exercise the 2nd amendment on yourself

A lot of that has to do with the Japanese language not being heavily gendered. In many cases, it can actually be difficult to convey gender, especially in a "solid" way. Very little of Japanese language is "solid" concepts. Interpretation is very important within the language.