The Shi | Fallout Lore 

For those who have finished the video, what do you think happened to the Shi?

Virgin Institute: lets Just do nothing besides replace people for decades Chad Shi: lets make plants to absorve radiation and make New types of fuel

Can't believe they actually named him Dr. Long Wang lmfao

If I remember correctly, the fate of the Shi and the entirety of San Francisco would have been given in Van Buren. It would have involved SF being nuked by the Enclave survivors at the Navarro base, having believed the inhabitants were responsible for the destruction of the Oil Rig and the death of the President. Obsidian was also originally going to have some dialogue in New Vegas describing how San Francisco was destroyed after the events of Fallout 2, but it was requested to be cut by Bethesda as they wanted to leave it as a potential area for future installments.

I remember it was stated somewhere in New Vegas that Kimball's Vertibird, Bear Force One, was built by the Shi and gifted to the NCR

It would be interesting to see the Shi again, maybe now they live in a lush green city and control some of the settlements around them? It would be cool to see especially with the likes of the Brotherhood and NCR sniffing around.

The Shi is definitely one of the more interesting (yet still relatively forgettable) factions in the Fallout series. I'd love to see more factions like the Shi in the future. That is if Bethesda decides to continue the Fallout series, considering their handfull of other projects.

Dr long Wang sounds like a nice charming fella

I honestly hope that Ending 3 is the cannon one, I'd love to see a new faction rise up and play a more important role in the Fallout series, beats the constant re-use of the Brotherood. I also really like the idea that the Shi are a faction build on a foreign (Chinese) way of life within post-war America.

I had to skip the video back a few times to check I heard the name correctly, Dr Long Wang is just the best character name I’ve seen for ages in Fallout.

I like the idea of the Shi becoming another power house in the wastes that could either help or hinder the progress of country depending on your influence as a player

using the AI to make rules BUT altered because an AI is usually cold and inhumane in it decisions is like... The sanest way of progress. Many places tend to either be tyants or soulless idiots but they way they use AI is literally the best possible way too

I have never heard of the Shi till now, with how amazing this faction is. I'm glad they haven't been touched honestly I don't think justice could be done to them in the newer ones

So we can consider that the hubologists are...big trouble in Little China?

13:59 the shi should make in appearance in season 2 of Fallout

Thank God for different time zones. I was about to have to binge from the beginning of the lore episodes.

I've seen some people propose that they were annexed by the NCR. I find this to be ridiculous given the technological level of the Shi, and the fact that they had good relations with almost everyone, including the BoS (with the noted exception of the Hubologists). I think that the Shi formed a proper City-state, and that they were left alone by the other factions. The Shi never espoused Expansionist goals, so that would explain why they aren't a larger entity. And if they remain isolationist, then that would avoid much of the conflict they could get into. Also, if they were destroyed, wether by war or some experiment gone wrong.. you'd think something like that would be worth mentioning in later games. Yet we have heard nothing of the sort.

I’d like to see a fallout Canada, not just because it is my home country. But simply because the lore we are given about the country has so much opportunity. I’d like to see how Canada adapted to this alternate timeline and how its citizens were outraged by the countries annexation. As well as how it held up post-war.

I lost it when I heard the head researcher's name was Long Wang XD

I like to think of the Shi as currently being akin to Hong Kong or Taiwan in the middle of NCR territory where it's disputed whether the land belongs to the NCR with etc factional influences and regional power imbalances (possibly due to the Shi being far more technologically advanced) keeping them as an independent city state as San Francisco. Even considering the fact that the NCR is likewise fairly tech advanced even just by the time of Fallout 2, the Shi's Emperor / Advanced computer is exponentially increasing their ability far beyond the NCR's ability. By the time of New Vegas the Shi are probably more advanced than the height of any nation during the Pre War era , but still a relatively small society. If they do make another fallout set in the West Coast then they absolutely need to include the Shi in some way

Current head canon is the Shi is less of an independent faction and a major political party within the NCR. Their influence can be through bio and techno resources for the Bay Area of the NCR.

It is possible the NCR simply expanded faster than them and the Shi had no option but to join up or be embargoed (ie starved out). I can imagine the "Emperor" just changing it's name to Senator Cheung or something and getting a job advising the NCR on the cabinet

Right on time for my insomnia, I was waiting for this lore! Great video ,Synonymous .

I think the Shi got conquerd by the NCR the Shi had powerful tech what the NCR whould want to have and with the Ncr being so imperialistic it whould only be mather of time.

Late night synonymous vids are the ones that smack the most👍🏻👍🏻

It would be nice to have another faction out west that is generally good and see them interact with the NCR. I think I would have fun smoothing over disagreements in a future game to create or strengthen a western alliance.

Been waiting for this one! As for what happened to the Shi? Probably any number of things, despite their vicinity to the NCR we have no reports of them being annexed. They're a highly scientific society with what seems to be great plans for the wasteland, so perhaps they continue to pursue their goals and stay isolated in their bay. Maybe they branch out south towards the great Glow to help the Ghoul population further south. I know I'd love to see their return to find out what has happened over the past few decades since Fallout 2.

All I know is that if they ever come back, they should come back in some type of force, like the Legion in terms of power and ability, guns and vertibirds like the NCR and BOS, along with Enclave levels of secrecy and strange workings. Because, let's face it, The Shi are just really fucking cool, I want them surrounded by greenery and stocks of mutated cows and other animals, the Empire of the chinese standing strong within enemy territory. It would just be really cool set piece to have around

I hope FO2 gets a version that's updated to a contemporary style and re-released. Same for 1 also.

they sound like they would rival the institute

“Your ticktock video had earned you +100 social credit” “You are now idolised by the shi!”

I love your videos man, they're like little documentaries about one of my favorite things - Fallout!

bro the Shi sound fucking dope, i hope they come back in a future game, but in a side quest or a main quest, not just a throwaway note in a sewer somewhere

nice timing with the logo appearing just as keloggs shoots the lawyer. :D

"Dr Long Wang" Hmm

Bethesda needs everyone to forget about the Shi, or risk the player base noticing how many times they have recycled the whole "advanced faction secretly controlled by a computer" plot.

This video reminds me of the Chinese Sub Yangtze from Fallout 4. That quest was pretty fun and interesting as you got to see that some Chinese Commies regretted their actions during the great war.

I have a question Synonymous, could you do a video on the massive moving vehicles like the enclaves mobile Air Force base and the Valdez cargo ship? Did you have future plans on doing singular major location like stated above?

Been binge listening to your videos during work and I must say they are really, really cool! Keep up the good work! They’re making me want to play Fallout games again haha

would love a future DLC to revisit them.

U know what would be a awesome fallout game is one that is based on either new Orleans or the great plains imagine a radioactive tornado or a radioactive hurricane lol and then have canada be part of a dlc

They probably already took some heavy hits and Kellogg finished off the remnants

Ahhhhhhh excellent. I've been waiting for this and it was well worth it. Cheers!

The Shi build a society with the former Great Khans from Fallout: New Vegas, after you convince the Khans to make their own destiny.

I would love to see a return to the west coast in a new fallout game but I also fear what Bethesda would do to it

Interesting faction with a super computer being its strength, damn the railroad wish.

I quite like this channel. I'm starting to enjoy finding there's a new video. You seem to pick topics that go mostly unexamined by other fallout lore channels

America: "Don't worry citizens! we have the G.E.C.K for rebuild our society!" China: "Nuclear Submarine will do the trick."

its likely the got annexed by the ncr but if if they were thriving well enough they could have retained some power i could see there being a senator of shi

Dr. Dr. Dr. “That’s not my hand Dr.”

Long wang out here "injecting rats" with his special "syrum"

The Shi would make a good main faction similar to Caesar's Legion

Considering the decline of the NCR i think the Shi succeeded. Would explain why the NCR is in such a weak State. The Shi are expanding on the North, there is the Legion on the East. The return of the Brotherhood just made things even worse. And the Enclave is slowly also returning. The NCR is surrounded by too many enemies

One of the few cities to refuse to pay taxes to the NCR and survive. I think their state is similar to New Vegas, but much more secure. NCR would love to annex them, but can't because Shi has a bad case of pewpewtitus. So the two nations say they are "friends" while in reality the Shi is getting the better deal - they get access to NCR markets while enjoying their security. Perhaps Shi even has some military bases around NCR to make sure it doesn't get overrun by some raider army.

Imagine in the new fallout game they brought a dlc out called the ghost of shi how fucking funny and ironic would that be.

I’m pretty sure it probably was integrated into the ncr since it could’ve predicted the ncr is the best corse of survival

I like to think the ncr used alot of the tech from the shi to solidify California and that’s why they had the rangers go take over Baja California it’s surrounded by sea life

Or the NCR annexed San Francisco. They've taken over quite a bit of California.

Ken lee, the "emperor", whom Mariah Carey keeps yelling about when she sings "without you".

I was very disappointed that the sentient plant end wasn’t canon. I really wanted a possibility for mutant plant monsters like those described to inhabit Florida due to a defective G.E.C.K.

A war between the shi empire and the brotherhood would be a great plot for a new fallout game. Maybe the shi gather up some enclave and/or institute survivors to beef up their technical prowess and in doing so piss off the brotherhood.

I really like the idea that the Shi become another wasteland powerhouse, the Van Buren stuff about San Fransisco blowing up kinda lines up with Chris Avelone's imagined canon ending for lonesome road, that both the legion and NCR are nuked. From what I hear Chris didn't like how fallout was moving away from the desolate wasteland, and more towards warring states. So he basically wanted every scrap of hope for civilization rising again erased from Fallout. I personally disagree with this, if Chris even had this sentiment, because I think there's simply way more interesting stories to be told with warring nations rather than small bands of survivors scraping to survive.

Imagine surviving a nuclear firefight against your nation's mortal enemy, only to emerge from the ashes and see that they had miniature cities dedicated to your culture

I've never got to play either of the original fallouts games but they are soooooo rich in lore its crazy and the factions are more interesting in my opinion

Not canon, but Xian was supposed to be a Shi doctor in Fallout 3 (Van Buren).

Fallout 5 should definitely be in San Francisco. That would be so cool

I wonder if Captain Zao from Fallout 4 will run across the Shi on his way back to China if he goes that route anyway. He could go by the Cape of Good Hope or not.

‘thank you for watching, and I’ll shi you in the next one’ :D

Lore for Thought: Courier 6 was ex an Shi member, how so? the player character has been in this area of where fallout 2 takes place (knows Bruce Isaac for example) and as the Courier can read Chinese (example: Chinese Army: Special Ops Training Manual), these things can only let me to believe that Courier 6 was apart of The Shi.

Ah! Love the vids. Cheers!!

This has been a great video and showed me a new faction of Fallout I did not know about, nice topic to chose Synoymous, what will be next?

For some reason I thought they became allied with the NCR

Dear Santa, I wish for the Shi in the next Fallout game and, most importantly, finally some good scripts from Bethesda.

The Sneed

it would be cool to see a fallout 4 mod to add back the shi or shi in a new light, i never knew about this faction and im already fascinated by them, if given time and growth i wonder how much more they could achieve, since they were making vines that could rid of radiation maybe they could rediscover the technology for the G.E.C.K ^^

Still up for challenge videos? I think I have an idea for one…

really cool faction i didnt even know existed i wish i could make myself play through the first fallout games

It'd be interesting to see these guys reworked... Like "China" is a pretty big place, so were the original founders from a particular area or were they from different places? The culture could be very different depending on that and exactly how much/what aspects they chose to preserve.

If Kellogg got to work for them, so they flourished.

Dr Long Wang met a short end

I'd believe ending 3 is a better logical ending; they'd likely be advanced and strong enough to be independent from the NCR as well.

So basically Bethesda took the Shi for inspiration for the Institute?

Would they be absorbed into the NCR or manage to become an independent City State from them becoming a valuable trade partner and rival to them

Your videos are amazing and well detailed!

Love these videos

Thank you for making a video on the shi!

the spies are truly tradition

Doctor Long Wang? Are you kidding me that's too perfect..

There is a mod that is supposed to be a prequel to New Vegas. Called New California, that gives a hypothetical scenario of the Shi's fate.

I went on a bit of a rampage in F2. Gotta collect those Gauss Rifles.

Dr. Long Wang of the Shi

footage from Killaps restoration project, that's rare.

I always forget about the Shi! thanks for the video

I never heard of the Shi until I saw a Schizo Elijah video last night. I never played 1 and 2, but I thought i knew pretty much everything about this franchise.

I think they would be doing good not many people would be able to go toe to toe with them plus most people believe they are good people and mostly are it depends lot on what the ncr would do I think they would use them to help with research but considering there leadership differences they might just be granted independents but regardless I think they would be doing good

Dr. “Long Wang” 😭😂😂😂

Another interesting video from the lore...

Dr long wang… ok I giggled 😂😂😂

Long Wang and goop? Ok buddy lmao

Maybe they used their technology to build a new submarine and went back to China like Captain Zao.