Let's also not forget that the Enclave's mobile base crawler at Adams Air Force Base has an alien blaster and several alien blaster cells in a storage crate. So, either the East Coast Enclave inherited this alien equipment from their West Coast brethren, or they acquired it during their tenure in the Capital Wasteland.
I believe the outcast fort had alien cells too. May have been prewar captures distributed across the country for research. Perhaps even influencing advancement into laser/plasma tech. Either way, just conjecture until confirmation
I think a cool future easter egg could be something like a random moment where the player at night looks up at the sky and sees a Zetan saucer in a dog fight with another alien ship before both quickly take off
Or a lonely Zetan saucer making very rapid, silent lateral movements like in some real world-stories. And if you pay attention long enough, the craft will stop and jump into the air at incomprehensible speeds. This would actually look amazing if you were able trigger this event from above. Like on a hill or some other higher point in the map.
The rockets were supposedly made for short tourist trips and in the ending they return to Primm to support the locals in defending the town and reconstruction after probably achieving enlightenment experiencing cosmic rays and beholding the planet from space.
Did anyone discover the huge room filled with 'Giddyup Buttercup' robotic horse toys in the Zeta Mothership? *The Zetas were manufacturing them and using them for mass surveillance*
The Zetans are using the Giddyups as spy cams, and the Institute uses Mannequins and Birds! Someone is ALWAYS watching you! If that crow looks a little *too* intently at you during your more... intimate moments in the wasteland... Someone's watching.
Theory. The zetans are reminents from there own post apocolyps of a larger galactic civilization. They're trying to make abominations and destroy humans to repopulate a planet, but lack the additional resources to do it well. They're basically space raiders on a much bigger and longer time frame than humanity.
@@caradog1081 I feel like this is that "it's about space wizards and laser swords, it's not supposed to make sense" argument. Just because the Fallout universe is wacky doesn't mean it has to be stupid
Zetans, Bright Brotherhood, Robotic defense satellites. The enclave did have access to most of the US Satellite defense systems and reconnaissance, including mentions of a Space station in orbit supposedly still in operation but is unmanned with automation.
When you think about it the lone wanderer is technically the first to achieve this as the ending to mothership zeta is kind of like the ending to saints row 4 where you can either search for a new planet with a powerful ship at hand or with all the frozen humans on board build up a force to create a new civilization on the least affected part of earth with powerful zetan tech
I think this part of the story is coming. Maybe not next game, but it will definitely be part of the lore. Explaining who all tried to blast off from earth in a last ditch attempt to save themselves would be awesome
@@painhertz The outer worlds is a great game for people who like fallout style games. It's linear story is a bit short. But that's just an issue if you play it point to point with the linear story and actually never explore other locations and people. I would'n call it garbage at all. Starfield i had bigger expectations for. But it disappointed so much more. Starfield is close to being garbage to me. But i don't think it deserves such a low rating either. It is still a game. It function somewhat how you expect a bethesda game to work. And it has a story. None of it is great. But it's okay. Wishlist it and buy it on a 90% sale and you'll actually enjoy it. Outerworlds didn't have the budget starfield had. It's not as vast. But it has more filling and has to me a better narrative that you follow as well.
The fake moon rocks thing is totally a part of real American kitsch. Still exists. When I was a boy and visited the US, before I moved here from Ireland, my dad got me one from a souvenir shop in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (which is actually the capitol of the state; people assume it's Pittsburgh or Philadelphia. I did until I lived here). Still have it. It's actually just a chunk of white granite that has a sticker that says 'moon rock' on it. I still kind of want to know what the Enclave wanted in Fallout, because at least some factions had plans to just abandon Earth and go to the moon or Mars according to some lore. Actually, I'd just like the Enclave to be more fleshed out. There are obviously competing factions within it. Some characters are clearly not so draconian. An Enclave civil war could be an interesting thing, perhaps during an invasion by the Zetans (they think humans are weakest when even the strongest of them are fighting themselves). Could make for an interesting storyline I think. Also, I think you left out Archimedes II. It was an Enclave space station.
Fun fact Neil Armstrong and buzz aldrin gifted a chunk of moon rock to the government of Holland, they had it tested & it turned out to be petrified wood & nobody could explain why.
@@bruhdon4748 Yeah, that was a gift to William Drees, right? He was the prime minister at the time I believe. No one knows why he just gave him petrified wood and said it was a moon rock. So odd. And Armstrong has since passed away. Buzz Aldrin was there too, but he's not talking either. I guess they just thought it was a funny joke.
@@AnnPMadera me personally I like to think it’s something deeper than that, have you ever seen what they all look like when they came back from the moon? They all looked like they had PTSD and saw some shit, there was also this weird interview with i believe buzz aldrin on a talk show where he corrects the host & said you was watching a puppet show and we never went to the moon etc idk just fishy
@@bruhdon4748 I believe they went to the moon, but Aldrin said something very odd once. Weirder than that. Aldrin believes in aliens, and implied they weren't allowed to talk about it, but would say things like, "There were sounds on the exterior of the hull. Something was knocking." Armstrong said something similar but not so blatantly.
You forgot this: The Archimedes II space station, as it is named with that huge ass neon lighting, is the Enclave's secret orbital base that the Courier can visit and destroy with the NCR Exiles, and is totally not something out of Dead Space or CoD Infinite Warfare. It is protected with numerous smaller fighters armed with lasers. Only real fans will know what I'm talking about.
I've always been fascinated by the Garden of Eden Creation Kit, but apart from the Matter-Energy Replicators a GECK is made up of technology that Fallout already has, and isn't that far away from where we are now technologically, but if you read the Fallout Bible it says there is no Matter-Energy Replicator in a GECK.
Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enclave. Its five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to spread democracy through superior firepower where no American has gone before. *insert Star Trek music*
To me it seems like there could have been a plotline with these zetans far larger than the original DLC. But time and space didnt allow them to fully flesh out a complete narrative. For that, and considering that pretty much every other possibility is always questioned by something different, I say the Zetans starting the war is a pretty good solid plot theory over the rest of them all.
Tbh if a fallout game took place partially in space I think that would do well Like just start it in the same fashion as the mothership zeta dlc Have us in a very small area, crash, we investigate, get abducted either by zetans or by the crew of mothership zeta (maybe to save the lone wanderer if he survived to keep being their captain?) And become the new captain halfway through the plot line Then just have like a limited area on like 3 or 4 planets, including earth at the end
@@ItsDaHoots you will love to know that the original fallout story was supposed to take place in a planet out of our solar system because Earth was taken over by Dinosaurs. That was the original script for fallout
The Zetans being the ones behind the Great War is a neat twist...but it arguably undermines one of the big themes of the Fallout series: that it was humanity's greed and cruelty and paranoia that did it in. That we're our own worst enemies and our obsession with some shiny Golden Age caused humanity to stagnate in a variety of ways that led to the US and the PRC nuking one another because both sides wanted to be top dog. Though, the Zetans doing an Emperor Palpatine and manipulating various Earth nations into destroying one another without actually doing anything directly IS an interesting story idea...an encounter with the Zetans positing the argument that all they did was watch or study our behaviour, nothing intentionally malicious to conquer the planet...
@@generalilbis I agree. Another reason I don't see space (or even other countries) playing a major role in a fallout game is that Fallout is at it's core a story about The US.
I'm glad to see you brought up Outer Worlds. It is a very curious game that feels like it's a continuation of his goals. In the game, they refer to a great war happening, and having sent humanity out to the stars for future colonization and whatever else. Only makes you wonder, beyond dismissing as references.
I could maybe see that, not sure about starfield though, the games would have to take place thousands of years apart, however in Fallout it is mentioned that their was an old society/civilization with advanced tech, I personally don't know much about it, I'm just going based off what I saw/heard in a video eitherway the society/civilization did eventually fall apart, I don't think it's mentioned why though. Starfield would have to take place in the far future, like far far, like 300 years at the very very least, and that's being optimistic and hoping that Humanity could bring back some level of civilization within that time period, however a realistic time frame imo would be 600 - 2000 years in the future, maybe more depending on how long it takes for humanity to recover.
@@_easyconcept it's basically impossible for both to be in the same universe, since The Elder Scrolls follows a really different way of how the universe works, but it's kinda funny to imagine still. Would Caesar's Legion be based on what Empire of TES? the Reman Dynasty?
Great perspective of Fallout and it's setting, however there it one facet that is not covered in this video. The Hubologists in Fallout 2 do actually travel into space on a parallel to the VentureStar shuttle vehicle with the help of the Chose One if the player makes it so. The game does not say how far they get, but they are in space long enough to run out of oxygen and asphyxiate. This fact does suggest that spacial travel is possible despite potential Bethesda story limitations.
Delta IX also means the Delta line went through 5 more revisions as the current version is Delta IV and Delta IV Heavy, though the single stick is retired and I think the heavy only has one flight left.
After NOT Blowing up the Institute it felt like there was a missing story and a Huge secret still left to be found.. Especially with the way youd put synths together and then the Mutant lab secretly hiding in the back of the Institute Zoo
The alien kneeling and praying as it makes what looks like movements indicating begging for its life could either indicate they have a religion or religions similar to ours OR they understand us enough to know that kind of thing might cause someone to refrain from killing them long enough for them to escape or help to arrive.
Well they never bothered to learn to speak with us for over 600 years and they only got what they can see, yeah 600 years of seeing that pop up woeking every so often, perhaps the zetan command updated the emergancy information packets on human escape/conflict amd what to do.
This was a cool idea for a video. I had forgotten most of the space stuff in FO3. I did play the Mothership Zeta DLC and remembered loving it. I do also love that mural in Concord. I wonder if they used any giant robots in that moon battle? I will have to stop by there and look again. As I am replaying FO4 with a video idea that I have in mind.
I remember in fallout 2 there was an AI called Skynet that was made from alien tech which became aware in 2081, it makes a comment about its creators giving it new instructions in 2120 despite its human makers wouldve mostly likely be dead.
I'm surprised that highly technical factions like the Brotherhood of Steel haven't recovered and at least tried to reverse engineered the Zetan technology.
It's not really an "outer" space thing, it's a bunch of satellites in geostationary orbit around the earth that happen to have weapons, little different to our world
don't forget satellites like the one from Poseidon Energy (i think it was called Archimedes) that contained a kind of super laser. who knows how many other such sats were in orbit.
Mr House bares an uncanny resemblance to Howard Hughes, but one could surmise that the people who started the war had a ringside seat from their vault on the moon.
Carl Bell must have $h!t himself several times over that 12 minute and 7 second flight around the planet. Compare his flight to the roughly 90 minutes it takes the International Space Station to get around the earth. I realize his ship had a rocket engine propelling it through the atmosphere but still, the man must have been terrified. What a way to go.
There was a cult who traveled into space in Fallout 2, and the character of Tim Kain in Fallout stated that they were using the vaults as a test of how prolonged space travel to nearby stars in generational starships taking years to make the journey to Centauri or Tau Ceti
I think it’s supposed to be one of the robots you can encounter on the mothership. Still really similar though, flatwoods monster might be some kind of piloted version of them.
I think it would be cool if the international space station was still there and perhaps Mr Gutzy’s were taking other satellites and fusing it all together.
14:30 Keep in mind that this last mother ship was captured by the wonderer and is controlled by the medic from the USSA. Also I remember the recording from the linguistic. She was a linguistic in the USSA military and was trying to get them to stop shocking her. Then through a brief integration, she discovered that they understood her. She was both surprised and relieved. Sadly this feeling was also brief as she soon discovered what her fate was. She fell asleep as she pleaded with them. Sadly I never discovered what happened to her and I assumed she died. I really wanted to find her as she would have been a great help on the ship.
The Mars Shot Project is detailed in Fallout 4; a pre-war US plan to send the first manned mission to Mars. Funding was cut shortly before launch due to the outbreak of the war, but you can still use the rocket engine to destroy a load of synths.
They probably come from earth originally, Lorenzo Cabot discovered a n ancient advanced civilization and got the crown which changed him but he was still also very much himself, just more intelligent and apathetic to his family. He prolly found the original zetan civilization as they left it before leaving to explore and returning to find humans have barely advanced and in fact sent themselves back a few hundred years.
If there's ever a Fallout game where you can visit the White House I think itd be neat if you could find an expertly locked terminal with its contents confirming several conspiracy theories from real life in the world of Fallout, like maybe Vault Tec helped fake the moon landing or found aliens when they went to the moon or something, idk i think it could be neat, and maybe the confirm other theories people have about the lore of Fallout and some miscellaneous real life stuff as funny references
in new vegas the speed at which the rockets fly though the air is actually nuts when you compare with real life rockets and think about the momentum build up IN space with that atmospheric speed in mind.
Ohhh that be a bit much remmber there trying to pool in new viewers not just old fans and they got alot to hold up, meam maybe when they got a good opening or need a break frim the wastland for an arch.
@@ryushogun9890 shame it seems they know what there doing so your kinda wrong for now but that show could 180 into the ground just as easy, also could you really think aliens in s1 would work?, even z nation wiated a bit before they broke out there aliens episode.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if Zetans were just humans who actually did escape earth but due to how time works in space they appear much, much older and different
FO5 should take place at least partially on the Moon. A massive functional moon colony overrun with sentient Zetan ghouls, vacuum resistant super mutants, and Chinese ferals.
I feel like it's also possible that the Zetans homeworld ISN'T like Earth, but they created a genetically modified organism to upload themselves into, or birth new embryos of themselves, in order to explore Earth without harm. Kinda like Keanu Reeves from The Day the Earth Stood Still
@@michaelk5676 also possible they somehow do not know American rockets as well, As there is a real life Delta series stopping at 4, Delta IV and Delta IV Heavy. the Heavy is a triple stick meaning for people not knowing their ULA vehicles it looks like a Falcon Heavy.
In regards to the bit regarding how they (The Zetans) could easily take over the planet but choose not to do so, a few hypotheses come to mind: 1. Due to their superior intelligence, they might appreciate the mindset of winning a fight without ever engaging in one to begin with. If they are truly behind the great war, it could be that the reason they study mankind is to learn more about why they fight each other so as to be more capable of manipulating them into doing so. Effectively, their goal could be to have humanity wipe itself out so that they don't have to waste their own resources doing so. This would especially make sense if for whatever reason, long periods of time were of no issue or concern to them. 2. It could be that as intellects, they are primarily knowledge driven. They might have no need of the planet itself, it's land, or it's resources. However, they could have a curiosity to them that leads them to wish to study humanity. Not just for the sake of understanding humanity itself, but intelligent life in general and perhaps even in search of insight regarding their own ancient past. 3. They may not be aliens at all. They could simply be an evolution of humanity from some far off future engaging in time travel, or a far more advanced race of intelligent life forms native to the Earth from the ancient past. In the case of being time travelers, their interest in different time periods throughout history makes more sense, as they would wish to know more about the events of history that slowly lead up to their own existence filling in whatever gaps in their knowledge may exist due to lost or imperfect historical records. As for being a far older race of intelligent life from the Earth's past, it could be that they expanded beyond the Earth a long time ago, inhabiting other areas of the solar system or even other nearby solar systems. This could make humanity a sort of left behind offshoot of themselves, or just a race of beings that naturally took their place in their absence.
They are a spacefaring and presumably interstellar species, the asteroid belt has FAR more resources than the Earth does or ever did not to mention the planets so #1 is out. I'd go with #2.
The whole invasion events were pretty cool on 76. You kinda missed that. But otherwise it could have used some more thought into it. Hope we get more zetan content in the future.
for those of us that go with MrHouse and colonize space just remember that the Zetans are our next challenge. Gonna be needing all the tech out of BIG MOUNTAIN to counter them but as long as we arent fighting the entire species all at nce it should be fine
I remember that there was info in f1 or 2 that some astronauts stayed on space station. They compiled knowledge needed to survive in post apo. and they are brotcasting it via radio. they are dead but brotcast is still on.
Nuka World DLC, fallout 4, vault tech exhibition in the galactic zone. They specifically name a system, and it's vault tech funded not government, and also in fallout 4 in some locations it describes how they have the rocket science ready for deep space missions.
NukaWorld vault isn't an actual space plan, the flavour text in the area shows it's just a means to experiment on people and recruit people for the vaults. It's like EPCOT alongside Space Mountatin
Ever since I played Mothership Zeta, I was convinced that The Zeta started The Great War. Either on purpose because we pose a threat to their hegemony or on accident from their warp drives setting off nuclear activity detection stations.
We're going to end up with one of those in reality, I figure. May as well have it in-game as a "we know what you did last summer" kind of message to them.
