The Shiny Pokémon Iceberg Explained 

I added several points to this iceberg that I thought would be interesting as well as omitting points if there wasn't sufficient enough information to speak to it. Feel free to correct anything I got incorrect in the comments. There was a decent amount to cover, so i'm sure something slipped through the cracks. My typical style of content isn't going anywhere, just wanted to make something for the sake of having fun. Gotta make stuff to clear the mental sometimes, y'know? Enjoy :)

fun fact: EVERY toxicroak in the anime is still colored wrong. alllll the way up to Pokémon Journeys. they ALL look like the psuedo shiny. Saturns was just seen first.

the luckiest thing to ever happen to me in my life was finding 2 full odds shiny budews within 30 minutes of each other in platinum

For Let's Go, it was found that the Catch Combo boost applies to the next Pokemon of that chain that spawns only, so after it spawns you would need to catch another to get another shiny boosted spawn!

I remember my very first shiny was a Tentacool in Pokémon Ruby. This was back in 2007-08 and I didn’t have access to the internet like we do now, so I remember keeping it in a box and never evolving or even leveling it up cause I was so scared the color change was a glitch and would revert to normal colors lmao

Suggests taking a shot everytime he says shiny & then says shiny 8 times in the next 60 seconds, this is what true evil looks like guys all jokes aside this video is really well made & I hope it continues to reach a wider audience :)

I am actually surprised that this video only has 57 views (at the time of watching) Your videos are really high quality man. I hope your break through comes

18:58 This Is The Happiest Psyduck I've Ever Seen, Misty's Could Never

That actually only applies to soft resetting the starters, Game freak forced us to use the masuda method to get the starters you get at the beginning of the game

Pokémon emerald doesn’t act like the internal battery is dry. It still has time based events. What makes emerald broken is the seed never changes when you reset. It is always 0 so all frames across all games will be the same only differing in shininess based off the trainers ID and secret ID

I LOVE how indepth and detailed the video was and on such an interesting topic. Great job!!

My favourite part of this video is the Banjo Kazooie theme in the background at one stage

Dude you deserve waaaay more recognition! Great video!

dunno if someone else has said it but i'm guessing the gen one shiny lock refers to the fact that non static pokemon cannot have the DVs (stats) to be shiny

The only full odds shiny I ever found pre gen-5 was a random Mesprit, which is cool, but also kinda weird that from all the possible pokemons it was a roaming legendary

this was nice, the pressure in this was worth it and you did great!

I once found a shiny pidgey as my first ever encounter in crystal...before you could get pokeballs

bro sounds like a cutie patootie jokes aside though this commentary/editing style is really chill and i even learned a couple new things so thanks for that 🙏🙏 hope to see this channel go far

100% earned a sub for this. I knew all of them, but great content!

This was a really well done video. Great job🙂👍

Good video Pauly, looking forward to your next upload

What you were saying about Manaphy applies to its EGG. As Manaphy itself was distribited in many countries worldwide during Gen 4.

Great video :) I learned a surprising amount of things that i didnt know. The only things I would add are the shiny clothing from the Battle revolution games and the end credits shinies in rumble.

awesome vid man, i thought i knew everything about shiny pokemon but apparently not!

Ah yes, the video that explodes your channel, congrats!!! Subscribed :)

MY GOAT POSTED! AMAZING VIDEO LIKE ALWAYS!!

Really enjoyable video! :)

Nice video. I enjoyed it very much.

What a great vid! This is my first time seeing your content and you are super underrated. The only thing I saw wrong in the vid was at 7:26 It was not known for quite some time but the chance of encountering a star sparkle shiny in the wild is WAY more than just 1/16. The true odds are around 1/18,000,000 and there have been only around ~13 to be found. I love your vids and hope to see more!!

Great video! :)

The quality of your vid is amazing surprised you only have 1.8k subs ur worth of atleast 500k

nice long-form video that i was craving

Can't believe this doenst have a like 100k + views. Insane quality, made me remember my first shiny i catched when i was like 8 (it was a pidgey in gold - didnt even realised that the colour is different lmao)

Wow despite being a long time fan, i learned something new!

Great iceberg! I was surprised to see the shiny Gible and Dratini mentioned, but not the Beldum given by Steven Stone :] Anyway, it's great stuff!

Great Iceberg, well worth watching

I’m glad we’re talking about shiny cards in the tgc; I got a shiny Azumarill card when I was way younger, and she has never been taken out of her x/y mega charizard binder

Seeing this and actually learning about the TCG gold star pokemon more in detail is great. As a kid I collected cards because of how much I loved the art... and stumbled upon that gold star charizard in the process. Still have it to this day despite not collecting anymore. I really treasure it.

Wait, did we not cover Jiggly Puff? In the early seasons of the anime there is a reoccurring jiggly puff that just wants people to listen to it sing, but everyone falls asleep. Anyway, this Jigglypuff is shiny, you can tell because of its eye color. This jigglypuff appears starting in "The Song of Jigglypuff" which takes place before the Orange Archipelago arch, and before Jhoto, making it the first appearance of a shiny pokemon within the anime.

I laughed when you said make it a drinking game and accepted the challenge. I gave up quickly 🤣

I think the broken unown odds entry refers to unown having varying shiny odds in gen 3

Easy sub great video

Shiny hunting is the only thing that’s keeping me interested in Pokémon now that the vgc scene is literally the same 20 Pokémon being top tier over and over for every ranked season.

In Pokémon go odds for community day shinies are 1/20, for raids it depends on the pokemon; legendaries are 1/20, others are 1/64 and for wild pokemon that are NOT shiny locked, its 1/500 for common spawns and 1/64 for rare spawns

Finally a Pokemon iceberg for me (I am a very dedicated shiny hunter)

Put this on to go sleep and I was so called out at the beginning omg haha

Ive beaten every single pokemon game throughout my life except the newest one, Violet. I decided a couple days ago that i was finally gonna give it another go after failing to get into it when it came out. Throughout my life and every game ive only ever encountered 1 shiny and it was when i was a little kid probably in gen 3 i dont even remember what it was but it was a pokemon i didnt even like. Yesterday after barely starting my 2nd try at Violet i came across a shiny rookidee. And it made me so happy because shiny corviknight is so cool looking and i really fkin love birds like my whole team is birds so its just perfect that my first shiny since childhood is one of the coolest bird pokemon and i got it super early to train it up myself. Now im 3 gyms into violet and as not great as the game is compared to the older ones, having a shiny metal birb makes it worth it.

18:47 lockstin and gnoggin basically reverse engineered the algorithm that would have generated the vast majority of the shinies from gen 2 - gen 5. There are a couple of pokemon that don't apply like charizard because those were likely manually changed after gen 2 which is why they look different in gen 3, perhaps because they wanted to put the design on the playing cards.

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Great video

A part of me wishes we never had these hunting methods and maybe not even the buffed odds tbh. Most rare shinies nowadays are literally impossible to get and the regular shinies are very easy to get, leaving any kind of grind only for PvP.

banger background music selection

I actually did the gen 4 shiny charm glitch, it took 3ish hours just to get my trainer ID and seeker ID matched and another 4 hours to catch the correct clefairy with cute charm. I now have 2ish boxes of shinies lol

lets gooooo!! yt algo working splendidly

Great vid

Corrections and additional information: 7:16 [Correction] Square sparkles appear to be fully intended to be a 1/16 chance, but to to an oversight with how shinies are generated in the wild specifically in Sword and Shield, they actually have a 15/65536 (approximately 1/4096) chance to be a star shiny, and a 65521/65536 (approximately 1/1) chance to be square shiny. This does not apply to static encounters such as the Regis, who have a 1/16 chance to be square. Every shiny transferred into Sword and Shield will have a 1/16 chance of star sparkle, with the exception of pokemon which didn't use standard shiny rolls (such as Pokeradar, Ultra Wormholes, or Scarlet/Violet's 1/200 odds event outbreaks) which are similarly unintentionally square, and event Fateful Encounter pokemon which are specifically coded to always be square. It's also worth noting that Dynamax Adventures shinies are always star, which seems intentional. 12:23 [Addition] Prior to Gen 8, if you traded an egg to another game, it would hatch as shiny based on that game's TSV, rather than the TSV of the trainer who obtained the egg. This was the mechanic that allowed the shiny Manaphy hunt, and people also had used it to trade their eggs for easier shinies. There's also a more general PSV (Pokemon Shiny Value) which is actually the same value as the ESV but the term is more common for things such as RNG manipulation while the term ESV is only really used for egg swapping. 12:40 [Addition] While all shadow pokemon were intended to be shiny locked, Pokemon Colosseum had a faulty system that shiny locked it to the opponent trainers but not to the player's trainer. This means a shiny pokemon will only appear shiny after it's caught. A shadow pokemon's stats (including PID) are determined only the first time they're sent out in battle, and the trainers have random TIDs every time they're battled, it's possible for a trainer to have a shiny shadow pokemon during a rematch and likely for them to not stay shiny once caught. 12:55 [Correction] Ruby and Sapphire used the internal clock (which ran on a battery) to generate *the initial RNG seed*. Every frame that the game is running (60 frames per second), the RNG function is called and a new seed is generated, but in Emerald or with a dry battery in Ruby and Sapphire the RNG starts at the same place every time you reset the game and has the same sequence of seeds every time, which makes soft reset hunts unviable unless you have a shiny frame early on, but random encounter and runaway hunts are pretty much unaffected. 15:54 [Correction] If this number is less than 8 (prior to Gen 6) or less than 16 (Gen 6+) 16:01 [Correction] Because it's possible for this number to be 0, there are 65536 possible values it can have. Dividing this number by 8 gives exactly 8192. This is where the odds come from, it's not rounded from 8191.875. 17:58 [Correction] The odd egg isn't broken at all, it's fully intentional to have a more common shiny. Every Pokemon in Gen 2 has a 1/128 to have the "shiny gene" (the same set of IVs that a shiny pokemon would pass down through breeding). Since these IVs are always passed down exactly as they are, a hatchling whose IVs were inherited from a shiny gene pokemon has a 1/64 chance to be shiny, and hatchlings who inherit from a pokemon without the shiny gene cannot be shiny. Additionally, as IVs are always passed down to offspring of the opposite gender, shiny breeding will normally give a 1/128 chance, but can be as high as 1/85.3 or as low as 1/192 for species with a 1:3 gender ratio. With how gender is also determined by IVs, pokemon with a 7 male to 1 female gender ratio can never be both female and shiny in Gen 2, and so the only way to breed for a shiny of these species is with a shiny gene mother, and such breeding gives the full 1/64 odds, while breeding these species with a shiny gene male will never give a shiny. Ditto overrides all this by passing its IVs to both genders of offspring, so a shiny gene Ditto will always give 1/64 shiny odds. 18:27 [Addition] There is some evidence, such as the artist who designed Golurk stating that they weren't allowed to choose the shiny color, and future designers (I don't remember of which pokemon) have stated they chose their pokemon's shiny colors. This isn't necessarily confirmation of an algorithm though. 20:25 [Addition] Ash Cap Pikachu's shiny lock is faulty in the exact opposite way the Colosseum's were. It generates a PID which is locked to your trainer ID, but then gives it the OT information of Ash. Unlike Colosseum, where the trainer ID was random each time, Ash's ID is always the same so there's a 1/4096 chance that a save file will have the same trainer shiny number as Ash (1009) which properly shiny locks Pikachu. Also, if it isn't shiny locked it technically has a 1/4095 chance to be shiny instead of a 1/4096 chance. 22:17 [Addition] Gen 3 had even weirder shiny odds for Unown. Every Unown form could be shiny, but because the form was determined by PID (instead of an independent form value like in later generations) the odds of each form being shiny varied quite a bit. These ranged from as high as 1/5120 to as low as 1/18432, and there were four different sets of shiny probabilities depending on your trainer ID and secret ID. In all cases though, the odds of a random Unown being shiny when ignoring its form is still 1/8192.

Some clarifications on the Gen 1 Shiny Lock portion. Like you said, not all stats match up for Gen 1 Pokemon when they're brought into Gen 2 to be shiny. Where it goes deeper though is that only a few handfuls of Pokemon can actually roll the stats to become shiny in the Gen 1 games. There is a bug involving the CPU timing for generating random values for if a wild encounter will occur, which encounter it will be, and then lastly the stats of the wild encounter. By the time it hits that last part, the algorithm will no longer be randomized. Because of this any walking encounter--cave, tall grass, surfing, etc. cannot be shiny. This means that only fishing encounters, gift Pokemon(starters, Celadon Eevee, Silph Lapras, Game Corner prizes) and static Pokemon(Snorlaxes, Power Plant Voltorbs/Electrodes, Legendary Birds, Mewtwo) can be shiny. Where the iceberg gets deeper is that what I just said isn't entirely true. Because of how unsecure the Gen 1 games are, you can make any Pokemon shiny. What you do is take a normal Pokemon from a walking encounter and perform some memory manipulation via overflow glitch to produce the stats required to be shiny. But this is waaay more complex than most players would go through.

I find it kinda interesting that when it comes to odds, cutting the number in half is actually doubling the odds. It just feels very counter intuitive when you think about it. A 1 in 16k would be cutting the old full odds in half.

The zoroark thing you mentioned reminds me of arven’s pokemon. They can be shiny, but *only* in the animation of him throwing them out. Once properly in battle, they aren’t

This was a great intro

I’ve only ever found 4 shinys while playing through the games. I almost feel lucky as I’ve seen others say that they’ve never found a single wild shiny. I’m no shiny hunter but it was interesting to learn about the history of such a simple yet not so simple aspect of the franchise.

I remember coming across an NPC trainer with a shiny Onix in Pokémon Battle Revolution once.

I literally know everything about shinies but this was a good history reminder haha

My first and only full odds shiny as far as I can remember (been playing for 24 yrs), was Galarian Corsola. Weirdly it was also the first time I saw corsola in this game at all.

Thank you for this. My first shiny Pokemon was full odds Doduo in Pokemon Crystal, caught it in Kanto. I was 10 or 11 years old. It was the same save file I defeated Ho-oh and Lugia without catching them. It was also the same save file my Feraligatr didn't learn "Slash", because I misread it as "Splash". I thought it was so bizarre they would teach my Pokemon such a weak move so late in its levels.

When I was younger I had a fire red run in which I caught a shiny voltorb with explosion/selfdestruct, that I found in the power plant. Will never forget it. And in my current fire red run being older, I got a lucky egg on my fourth chansey (tho I encountered way more that fled lol)

Oh man a video to shiny hunt to

The true Iceberg would be the lengths it'd take to get a shiny of EVERY SINGLE obtainable pokemon that ever existed

First of all: Absolutely fantastic video! Second: What happened to Whismaker Jirachi, it is literally one of the most iconic shinys out there…? (And one of the most expensive ones too…)

I was laid up the hospital with nothing to do during that water fest. Thankfully there was a few stops there and I used lures to get the golden koi

James Turner confirmed not everyone always gets to choose their shiny colors. He chose the shiny colors on some of his pokemon for example but not golurk.

My first ever shiny was a shiny Suicune in my cousin's Crystal. I don't have that particular Suicune anymore, but I did hunt it in my Soul Silver and got it almost immediately. Every game where Suicune is huntable, I hunt Suicune first alongside Giratina. So far, the only game I haven't gotten Suicune(or any shiny) in is my Shield...

Having not seen an igglybuff in modern 3d before, seieng a shiny one just float in the wind behind a battle with a Happiny is one memory i hope to never forget. I miss the audio cue 😢

Actually, Gen 1 and 2 used *DVs, which would become IVs in Gen 3, but weren't quite there just yet.

yea my first shiny was the impossible poochyena, i remember not really knowing what shinies were or their importance, but i remember just sitting there staring at my screen for like 20min knowing i couldnt catch it

interesting thing about lgp/lge is the catch combo shiny odds only apply to the 1st pokemon of that chain to have those increased odds

i will in fact be sleeping to this video ty for the permission 💅🏻

Sick channel

“Take shots every time I say shiny” dude, I’m 2:09 minutes in and can’t take more, in just that small timeframe I counted over 15 shiny, if someone does it to the end I hope they don’t end in ER

Every shiny hunt is about matching numbers

Actually lockstin and noggin(or however he is called) made an extremely work intensive video where he decifered the shiny pallet swap algorithm

Good job, you attracted the owner of a Living Shiny Dex.

17:42 not just the shinies but all pokemon in stadium and stadium 2 have off colors. Something to do with the trainer ID I think

You forgot to mention the coin case glitch in gen 2 and also since you brought up Saturns toxicroak what about ashs butterfree’s gf or the snow colored snorlaxes

Every single time I get that egg in gold, it’s always been togepi. I thought everyone always got togepi 🤯

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There aren’t shiny Pokémon in Stadium 1. There are different color palettes, but those are determined by the Pokémon’s nickname.

I miss the original odds, but how can I complain about palette swaps being easier to get? If they wanted to add some new chase variant similar to shinies, I'd be all for it. Pikachu with green eyes, Machamp with a "MOM" tattoo, whatever.

You forgot about action replay, i used one of those, and went around catching every pokemon in shiny form

bro forgot timestamps 💀 rly tho, amazing video and criminally underappreciated

IMPORTANT QUESTION! what is the song you used at 3:30 - 5:52 ?!?!

One of my favorite shiny memories was using action replay to really mess with the gen 4 games. I used an "all pokemon shiny" cheat just to see what other shiny pokemon were like, but forgot to initiate it when the game was booting up. At the time i thought, i was fully convinces that i did succesfully initiate the cheat. The first pokemon I came across was a random shiny goldbat, a pokemon whose normal form i avoid like the plague. I thought "i can probably skip this, ill be seeing loads of shiny golbats." But then something within me changed, and i thought "know what, ill see if i can catch one of each shiny." So i caught it. Next thing you know my next encounter was not shiny. "What the hell " i thought. I saved the game and attempted again, this time realizing i missed a step where i had to hold both the left and right triggers as the game boots up so the AR could do its thing. It didnt hit me until after i saw my shiny golbat that i realized i saw an *actual shiny* totally by chance, after being fully convinced it was just a cheat shiny. Those days as a kid were so much fun... i named that golbat "Goldbat" and never evolved it.

Sleeping to this rn

2:53 what about the Shinies in ancient Hisui, there was a Ponyta that was specifically mentioned for having a special color 🤔 I get what I think you’re trying to say, but it’s not the first canonical shiny anymore

One thing I dont get about shinies is the hunting. To me the beauty and fun of the shinies are the accidental discoveries and wonder. Actively hunting them kinda defeats their purpose and fun imo.

Here is a list of Pokémon Go shiny odds for further use, if you need them. "Full odds" Wild Pokémon - 1/512 "Perma-Boosted" Wild Pokémon - 1/64 Community day Pokémon - 1/25 Egg Pokémon - 1/64-1/512 (Dependent on Pokémon) 1 Star raids - 1/512 (unless Perma boosted Pokémon, then its 1/64) 3 Star raids - 1/64 4 Star Mega raids - 1/128 5 Star Legendary raids - 1/20 Raid day Pokémon - 1/10 Research Day Pokémon - 1/10 Incense Day Pokémon - 1/64-1/128 Some times wild Pokémon get boosted to 1/256 during certain events, but that is negligible.

One guy commented and said he was surprised the video only has 57 views, little did he know that it would be close to 57,000 views!!!!!

Here’s a fact I didn’t think you added. Dylan Lefavour won the 2008 TCG world championship with a shiny Mew. That shiny mew was available in the silver boarder world champion booster deck that included a copy of his deck. Can I tell you that light blue looks so clean with that silver boarder. P.S. I only know this because I have the card :P great video

Wow just the start of the video hurts me seeing how low the chances of finding a shiny was. In Gen 3, Pokemon Sapphire, I somehow found a shiny wild Hariyama in Victory Road. Somewhere along the way my mum made me allow my brother to take the game to his childminders to play. He let one of the other kids play on it and now the shiny Hariyama no longer exists on my game 😭😭😭😭😭

Cool video but I how did u use Mario music in the background without Nintendo assassinating u?