Calculating the Best Odds for EVERY Shiny Pokemon (Again) 

It's worth mentioning that Shiny breeding in Gen 2 can be much faster if you use the Dodrio Tower in Pokemon Stadium 2, which allows you to play at 4x speed. You can also tell if an egg is shiny before it hatches by looking at it in the PC in PS2, as the egg itself will have a different color texture/model if it's Shiny.

Your tier list at the end was exactly what I'd hoped for when clicking on this video! Incredible dedication!

6:50 important correction: you only need 10 coaches to get Cyrano to appear and battle you. So its definitely way more reasonable then all of them

dexnav is actually boosted odds on every encounter, there's just an additional boost on the 50th and an even more boosted chance on the 100th, in fact there exists a calculator for it that tells you your precise odds given you scenario (research level, 50th/100th encounter and whether or not you have the shiny charm). I believe it is also worth noting that gen 6 radar completely resets your shiny chances when you catch your shiny patch shiny, even though the chain is still "active", additionally A LOT of the patch area in x and y are impossible to get ideal grass patches, significantly lowering your chances of reaching and successful 40 chain, with there being only a few notable areas where you can nicely use the radar (route 5, route 7, azure bays secret shore and the pokemon village to name a few)

11:51 small correction. If you quit the game before recieving the ore/pokemon you can play the exact same dynamax adventure with same pokemon. It will cost you dynite ore tho, and it goes up to 10 per each dynamax adventure you quit. So you can temporarily shiny hunt the non legendaries consistantly but not forever

GF really put Gimmighoul in raids for a week and a half, kept it full odds, restricted the shiny chance to 5 star raids, and said good luck. Oh and not to mention that Gimmighoul's shiny is difficult to tell and raids don’t make the shiny sound or animation.

I was surprised that Celebi was the only truly full odds Pokemon, especially since that was the first shiny hunt I ever did as a kid

Hey, I really enjoyed the video! I have one piece of information though about the shiny blitzle you get from Cyrano; I was able to battle him after maxing out the friendship of the entire top row of the coaches, so it should only be 4,800 Blueberry Points (as opposed to the 13,800 mentioned). Still not a walk in the park, but a lot less time consuming!

I was very skeptical of the title/claim of this video, but the amount of time and research presented in this video is amazing. I really appreciate that you break down each game and each method of shiny hunting.

One notable thing about the Ultra Space shinies is that a lot of the Pokemon they (seemingly nonsensically) chose are ones that have gender differences. Which is to say: if you want every form in the Seedot line you need five non-shiny Pokemon (Seedot, Nuzleaf M, Nuzleaf F, Shiftry M, Shiftry F) and their corresponding shinies. Since you can get shiny Nuzleaf quite easily in the Ultra Wormholes it means that the hardest form in that line is, weirdly, shiny Seedot. It's a huge blessing from the clever game developer who came up with that list, because similar Pokemon exist (like shiny Torchic, Combusken, and Blaziken has the same gender difference split but with terrible female odds) and these were equally annoying until Gen 7.

There's a not well known glitch with the Gen 3 games that can be abused for the Wishmaker/Channel Jirachi which can reduce the "reset" time down to a few minutes. Significant for Channel, due to the E4 Requirement. There's a guide by im a blisy on how it's done

This just goes to show how grateful we Scarlet/Violet players have to be with regards to how easy shinies are to obtain. Every other game in the past must have been a pain in the ass to get even ONE shiny, which pales in comparison to the HUNDREDS that you can get with practically ZERO effort.

Correction: You only need to befriend 10 out of 23 coaches for the shiny Blitzle. I’ve gotten it with just 12.

Don't forget to mention that if you have a Japanese copy or gsc, the odd egg has a 50% chance of being shiny I believe. I know it's increased but I can't remember how much

Something to note about Masuda breeding between SWSH and SV: Getting eggs in SWSH is an active process, while in SV it's passive. So while getting eggs may be faster in SWSH, you can multitask while breeding in SV if that's important. Heck, breed something in SV and do another hunt in a different game while you wait for more eggs!

im working on a shiny living dex and this is the only youtube video i have ever had bookmarked before. extremely well researched, insightful and interesting. deserves way more views

The nostalgia of playing Pokemon Ranger in the background of this video was a nice touch, I almost never hear Ranger music in Pokemon vids

I love how all of the cards for each method is some kind of meme or something and then when you get to full odds it's just the sad music from gen V

Think a good caveat to mention with excluding Go for its variable shiny rates is that legendary raids that arent shiny locked are always 1/20 so generally pretty accessible depending on raid availability/money for raid passes.

6:44 You don't have to friend em all, I got him available after getting gold border on just the gym leaders

6:36 you don't need to do ALL 20, you only need to do 10, and that 10 includes the BB elite Four, meaning you can get 4 of them for free (or 6 now since kieran and carmine count too.)

I just wanna say that the Pokémon Ranger music in this video is GIVING ME LIFE ❤️

Thanks for this video it was well put together and as someone who does own all the games its nice to see what might be the best places for me to hunt some pokemon, I also really liked the PLA clip with the ponyta when I did that shiny ponyta quest I thought of that same video. Thanks again for putting in the time and effort it was entertaining and really helps.

The amount of work and research into this was wonderful! I appreciate you putting all of this together, including ETAs for hunting per each method

As someone who's done the manaphy and jirachi hunts, I wanted to add some info about the average lengths of those hunts. For the wishmaker jirachi, you can skip a cutscene and use a save corruption to avoid having to totally restart the save, cutting encounters down to just about 90 seconds per jirachi. At that pace, it would take 10896 minutes to get to the 1/7264 odds of that particular hunt (or 181.6 hours.) For manaphy, assuming you're hunting with 4 eggs on diamond/pearl, as is typically considered optimal, it's approx. a 20 minute reset per 4 eggs. This means you can reach odds in 40,960 minutes, or just over 682 hours. Manaphy could also be as slow as 163,840 minutes (2730 hours) if you're hunting with only one egg, as it's still a 20 minute cycle to get far into the game to trade.

Although the gible and dratini lines are guaranteed shinies and so is haxorous. I feel like there is definitely a significant time investment into them. Clearing black tower or white tree takes some time and completing the dex for haxorous is also a big ask Amazing video though

A note on Ora’s dexnav. At a 999 encounter, + shiny charm, it has been calculated, tho varied, to be at a ball park of 1/180-1/200 ish chance. Which is ridiculously good. Your chains don’t really matter, except for the 50th and 100th, and the additional random 4% chance shouldn’t matter too much either. It takes about an hour and 10 mins on grass dexnav, to reach 100 encounters on average. Source: Am a shiny hunter myself, have caught more than 300 shinies in Oras alone via dexnav.

This video is phenomenal, like all your other works! Thank you for taking the time and research to do all of this!!! ❤

The XY radar is deceptively tricky to get to a full chain on; it’s super inconsistent. And with BDSP’s slow loading, you’re probably better just chaining in Platinum as much as possible, despite the nominally lower odds (Platinum radar hunting is also very well documented).

I swear you’re one of the best new poketubers I’ve run into, hoping this blows up like your ribbon video!

Great video👍 One thing to consider with your calculation: Stadium 2’s Dodrio mode let you hatch eggs at 3x the normal gameplay speed.

This video is so well put together!! Wonderful job!!

I can understand why you didn't do this, but I'd be interested in the times when factoring in the difficulty of finding the specific pokemon in the method you're using. It will take an average of 12 minutes to find ANY shiny pokemon in an LA mass outbreak, but if you're hunting for a specific pokemon, it would take much longer to find the outbreak that you want. It takes an average of 7 minutes to find an ultra space pokemon, but it would take an average of 140 minutes to find abomasnow. I would argue that it's much better to SOS chain for pokemon like pichu, gastly, and eevee for this reason.

Very well researched video! ...Also this is making me realize that lucking into the damn Shiny Zygarde I have really is even more of a miracle than it appears. Truly superb LMAO

This was a very interesting video. Nice job!

Fun fact, in x and y there was a special form of floette that was never actually given out. However it still has a shiny form weirdly enough, meaning it was probably intended to be some kind of in game event

i'm shocked there aren't more comments on this video, this is an insanely valuable resource and an even more insane undertaking to calculate all this stuff! you dropped this king 👑

Just found you! Subbed and excited to watch you grow. Very informative and a dash of memes~ wonderful☆

Thanks for the well done tier list! I saw a similar video of "ranking the difficulty of every shiny pokemon" and it lazily threw every breedable pokemon into the east tier. Even got hostile when i pointed it out. Well done!

As someone who will be working on a shiny living Dex soon (I've almost finished my debut gen all forms regular dex), you are an absolute legend for creating that tier list. I'm going to be starting with the stuff that will be lost when bank shuts down just to make sure I have them then working on anything that's potentially quicker in older games and moving up the gens from there. It's going to be a very long term project, one I may never finish, but once I'm done with my other dex there won't be anything else to work on outside of adding new Pokémon to it when the next game comes out, i might as well go for a shiny one over time.

wow, really fun vid :D merry christmas!!

What a fantastic video dude. Great work

I think this video is just fantastic. You deserve a gazillion dollars for making it. Thank you ❤

Really great content, thanks for the effort

I appreciate the hard work for this video. I've decided that it deserves a like and subscription

This is such a great video, thank you!

I weirdly struggle to find shinies in the dynamax lair; I can spend hours trying and get nothing.

About that shiny blitzle from the blueberry academy! I was able to unlock the Cyrano battle after about 40 coach summons, with 9 of them befriended. Still a hefty BP fee, but it goes by *fast* if you're an among us task master

For the event only Pokémon, there are ways to obtain shiny deoxys, darkrai, genesect, meltan, melmetal, via Pokémon go. Deoxys, darkrai and genesect can be obtained via raids with a 1/20 chance and meltan had 1/125 shiny odds.

Thank you for all your hard work!

Great video! I just wanted to point out some small mistakes in your list: 6 of the gen 7 Pokémon (all except Wimpod and Goliosopod) you've put in the Masuda Method tier in your 2nd list can be SOS Chained. You probably already knew since some are in the SOS Chain tier in your 1st list. There's also Mudbray and Lycanroc in the 1st list which belong in the SOS Chain tier. The lists are very helpful, thank you for making them!

Scarlet/Violet has a very specific encounter system. Unless things have been changed in a more recent patch, a trainer will have up to 15 pokemon spawn in their vicinity at a time in single player mode. In multiplayer, this number is dropped down to 5 pokemon per player, which can total up to 20 pokemon if a full group of 4 players are in the same Union Circle. However, that is not a particularly safe method to shiny hunt since encounters in multiplayer will despawn if the player that starts the encounter tries to run from it. There might also be issues caused by disconnects or crashes brought on by the data exchange in multiplayer modes or the general issues brought on by longer play sessions of S/V specifically.

I'm laying in my bed listening to this, SOS hunting drampa... my chain is probably in the 300's and my ds has been awake for like 4 days now...

great and detailed video on shiny hunting! About sandwitch hunts in pokemon scarlet/violet: for a lot of pokemon it's a lot faster to hunt them outside of outbreaks, since picnics take time and the 15 pokemon don't always spawn instantly. So if you can guarantee their spawns with the right sandwich, you can cycle through pokemon a lot faster by just driving around. Especially if they spawn in groups of 5.

you earned a sub from me lol nice vid lots of effort put into in i could never do that much work

this is amazing. commenting to help the channel in the algorithm

There’s an obscure glitch in gen 4 that involves the cute charm ability and your secret id (the one you can’t see unless you use third-party apps) I don’t remember how it works exactly but if your secret id is a specific number and you have a pokemon with the cute charm ability in your party, you were basically guaranteed to encounter a shiny every time

how does this vid only have 5k views?? it's so well made!!!

Crazy work what a video 👍

ummmm actually shiny locks have existed since colosseum not xd gale of darkness (great video btw :) ) I would like to mention Poke Radar is faster than getting encounters once you max your odds, you never have to step into the grass once you're at 40 until you see the shiny grass, so you can get 4 "encounters" every 50 steps at max odds

Its worth noting that Ash Hat Pikachu has actually been available shiny through QR distribution in Sun&Moon in which you can soft reset for it at the 1/4096 rate. Its shiny does not appear different, but has shiny sparkles and is acknowledged as such in things such as home or the pokeball+

The biggest slog of a hunt I did was the Entei/Raikou roaming hunt in HG/SS as part of my Shinylocke. And I did it the good old fashioned way on cartridge without having the luxury of speeding through the cutscene or save states from emulating the game. It took me 6 minutes per attempt on average (ranging from 2 minutes to about 20) and I got quite lucky, after exactly 1000 encounters I managed to get myself a Shiny Entei and I'm glad I had that one save once it spawned because in my first catching attempt my Crobat crit it to death. My heart definitely skipped a beat on that one. The first Shiny I got in SV was a Scatterbug that I encountered full odds before even getting to Mesagoza. I was so happy and quite surprised that it evolved into a Fancy Pattern. I wish we still had the other Vivillon forms, they could have reworked the mechanic to have it evolve into a different pattern depending on where you evolve it in the overworld, but I definitely take Fancy Pattern as the consolation prize.

If you combine the dual slot mode (dongle method) of the gen 4 games and the pokeradar, its actually possible for several other pokemon not in bdsp to be hunted at a 1/200 rate (lotad, seedot, mawile, sableye, lunatone and solrok should be included in the tier with poochyena)

Great video 👍🏻

I remembered spending YEARS soft resetting Pokemon Crystal on the 3ds getting a shiny Celebi and catching it was so satisfying.... then I got another one a few days after from that one Pokemon Go event. Felt like Celebi did time travel shenanigans to mock me irl by having me spend years to catch one to immediately just spend a few days after that momentous accomplishment to catch another one.

22:36 It never really "shut down" per se, they just took away the ability to buy anything new! As long as you've bought Crystal at some point beforehand, it'll still be in your purchase history, meaning you can redownload the game at any time. The game server shutdown FAQ also clarified that the eShop won't be affected, so that won't be a problem either (considering the Wii Shop is also like this, it should be this way for a few years at the very minimum).

I havent finished the video so forgive if this has been addressed but the gen 4 mythicals that are locked behind events are still obtainable through the void glitch so they can be shiny hunted as normal without the limited event items to reach them. no rng manipulation since you are only using glitches to reach them, not hunt them.

Radar hunting is actually pretty good once you adjust, any decent shake on a tile 4 squares away will increase your chain, and you just have to pay attention to squares in between you and it for ANY shake, and avoid them, once you get to 60, or the music changes(not to normal rout music), you get the max odds, you made a mistake, the odds are 0.5% (1 in 200) per square that rolled the Pokémon you are chaining, if at any point all squares that roll a Pokémon are not squares with grass/flowers, then your chain ends(if all squares that roll your Pokémon are not grass, but a square that isn’t your Pokémon is grass, it does not end your chain), at any point you can reroll grass without ending your chain, if you hop on your skates it ends your chain, and if all squares that rolled Pokémon go off screen, it ends your chain,(a square that rolls a Pokémon and is not a grass square still counts), and shiny grass will sparkle and make a chime

i had to sub after listening to the fire soundtracks you used nostalgia got me

Some paradox things, the main crystal cave will only spawn Iron Valliants with a high enough fairy/fighting boost in Violet, The same is true for Ghost for Flutter Mane, with it in daylight forcing all the non shiny ones to vanish (you have to check time out of area zero then go in), while a pokemon like Roaring Moon in Scarlet has an issue that it shares typings with both the Deino Line (both types) or Sneasel line (on dark) in it's cave, though I cannot confirm this as it's been a while, I believe Sabeleyes may also spawn in the side cave (the one with the crop circle). off topic but shoutouts to the person who's probably gotten every ribbon on a gen 3 shadow quilava meaning they carried that things ass through all of the battle facilities as a quilava (probably impossible unironically) all to get the one additional ribbon in PLA while allowing not conflicting with the legal pokemon in BDSP for the H-Typh

as a huge shiny hunting nerd, tysm for making this video it's great AHHAHJSDH (also that hidden comment at 0:59 is crazyyyy) edit: also, seeing all these techniques makes me realize I should get my parent's old Pokemon games and see which ones I can hunt before next April

the pokemon ranger music is very much appreciated

Note in regards to the encounter speed for Dynamax Adventures: there are a lot of variables that can influence the rate at which you complete adventures. Turning off battle animations can shave a good 2-3 minutes off your time, though this only works in single player; most prominently though, the legendary at the end can really drive your time up and down. For comparison, Kartana, which is one of the easier ones, I was able to consistently defeat every 8-10 minutes, whereas Zygarde, widely regarded to be the most difficult encounter in adventures, took me roughly 15-18 minutes. Because of this, I'd say that, averaging different encounters, as well as accounting for animations and the downtime between ending and starting an adventure, you'll get to about 12 minutes per check, which puts you at 1200 minutes to hit odds.

20:10 note that is sv it was changed to work in picnics but the egg production rate is time based and not step based but can be spead up by using a egg power sandwich (i highly recommend the great peanut butter sandwich which only needs peanut butter, butter and banana all easy to get ingredients) ot does however only last for 30 min and the basket can hold a max of 10 at a time so its best to claim them every now and again (i recommend evert 3 ish mins when using the sandwich i recommend) but multiple mon can be Masada-ed wt the same time just make sure that they are either all the same gender or are all different egg groups or they might breed with mon other than the ditto (also if you are doing reginal forms the mon with the regional form needs to hold an everstone and if you are doing multiple at the same time ditto needs to hold an destiny knot and all others need to hold an everstone even if they dont have a regional form [or vise versa if you are using ditto for nature all other mon need to hold a destiny knot])

i think the rarest shiny right now that you can get on switch is alolan raichu, cuz the only way you can get it is trough dynamax adventures but is not garantee it will be on the run... again, only for switch

One thing for bdsp and the original gen 4 games is both have known rng manipulations that can significantly change the odds. With diamond and pearl also having Arbitrary code/scripting execution allowing for a shiny manaphy similar to the 8F Mew.

My first ever Pokemon game was was Colosseum, and I didn't realize it as a kid, but the Jirachi I got when I was like 10 was shiny. I finally found my old gba and gamecube memory card a few months back, and found this wild thing. It's crazy to find out just what the odds for that thing are. Ive been bringing it up through the games to get some ribbons, and doing the ribbon master challenge with my shiny Eevee from XD. I guess I was a shiny hunter back then even if I didn't know it!

I really like the memes at the begin of each segment

I've got a sandstorm mark shiny dratini evolution line which I only found was possible with the outbreak events and I haven't seen anyone else hunt it due too there was only 1 location for the outbreak which I had to hang off a cliff too have the dratini spawn while I was still in a sandstorm.

You forgot the cute charm glitch in HGSS, easily the best hunting method in the entire series

Thank you for this!

13:35 an extention to this method is called permutations with lets you see the greatest differences of mon and what spawns is based off the rng seed which is set when you enter the area but catching or defeating a mon will change the seed and as yiu can battle or "!" up to 4 mon at once and just one mon can change the seed you can change the seed quite a few times giving the best chance to get a shiny seed

You should have a special section for Pokemon Go for raids or research since Genesect and Mew outside of Japan along with Melton and Melmetal are Go exclusive. It is speculated that Victini, Keldeo, and Meloetta will be released next year for Unova Tour which would also make these Go exclusives.

I find the most optimal way to hatch eggs in scarlet and violet is to just breed a box or two of eggs before you start to hatch them. Then I go to the city with the streamer gym leader and go in the main circle to hatch them all

22:22 note that you can use coin case glitch to make any mon shiny and be any mon mesning that you can get a shiny celebi in gold or silver this way iirc it needs to be the english versions of the games but i could be wrong

27:15 an tip for doing sos hunts it to see if the pokemon can have their ability changed to harvest and can be given a leppa berry this will make it so that mon will never run out of pp (for Mimikyu have it use the move mimic one the move recycle [basically harvest as a move] as its ability cannot be changed)

I haven’t finished the video but I find sv’s shiny hunting method the easiest for a casual like myself

Subbed for the Pokémon Ranger music :D

the only shiny hunt ive ever done was the odd egg in crystal, and i wasnt even going for a specific pokemon, i just wanted it to be shiny. got a shiny magby first try and was super happy but unfortunately my save battery has since died :( RIP little guy

I remember hunting for a shiny Roselia in hoarde encounters on ORAS, I spent however long hunting got two separate shiny Oddish and gave up- Then after not touching the game in thee months I was saved in the same area and decided to peek at the one hoarde, BOOM shiny Roselia! I can't tell you how many encounters I had, was probably over the odds having two other Oddish? I can say I know I didn't have a shiny charm for it though, little me sure didn't put that much work into the pokedex. Regardless that was probably my favorite shiny ever! Love the analysis of all the different methods, really brings me back- Gamefreak spoils us with these newer odds for sure

Correction @ 7:00 - You only need to obtain the highest level with 10 coaches to unlock the fight with Cyrano at Blueberry Academy. Each coach costs 600 points to max meaning you only need 6000 BP to obtain the shiny Blitzle, not 13,800.

I love my VC Shiny Celebi. She will forever be one of the ultimate crowns of my Pokemon. I wanted her mostly because of my love of the Mystery Dungeon series!

Great video! Shouldn’t haxorus on the last tier list be in the free space though or did I skip something explaining why it isn’t there lol

11:50 while what non legendary pokemon you face is randomized you can save specific den layouts to hunt for certain pokemon if you want with the power of soft resetting

23:38 i could have mentioned this earlier but fits better here There a thing called dns tgat can let you get events for gen 4 and 5 games and this includes both sequels for pokemon ranger making more copies available to give manaphy eggs

for me. getting a fishing shiny in gen 6 was by far the quickest. 2nd to ultra space, the mesuda in gen 7.

200 per hour for Ultra Wormhole resets seems a bit high. I did a lot of soft resetting in that gen and wanted to keep a rough estimate of where I was with each hunt so I timed it at right at 30 seconds per reset and I'd just keep track of the time I spent. Unless My 3DS was slow, I'd say it should be 120 encounters per hour. Not a huge deal, just thought I'd throw in my personal experience. Your time estimate on the Dynamax Adventures seems pretty accurate to me. I was able to pair down the timing by turning off battle animations and doing offline raids. That worked out really well until it came time to hunt Kyogre and Zygarde. Those two were ridiculous and I ended up hunting them online. Nice video!

If you can build a large amount of encounters with dexnav in ORAS, just encountering the pokemon at all with that method will give you increased shiny odds. You can even keep chains going by searching for different pokemon if you're looking for ones with good IVs as well. I've pulled back to back shinies, as much as 4 in one day, by dexnav alone. It's worth noting that searching in caves and water is more difficult due to the way the pokemon move around, but in grass especially, I could probably find any shiny I wanted in under an hour there. I'm no data scientist so I don't know where that places me, but I do know a large majority of the shinies I got during my time shiny hunting were via that method.

11:00 if you count Pokémon go, then you can remove the feebas, Alomamola and clamperl line. In Pokémon go, they have a 1/64 shiny chance

31:22 this could be due to some locations having static spawns for specific mon which will override the sandwich but if KOed it will not respawn until the next day