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The Sienna has one huge advantage in MPG but three giant knocks against it in my book which are that the middle row isn't designed to come out, that in top trims you are limited to 7 passengers instead of 8, and that you can't get them without a long wait and/or a big markup. The markups mean that even with the better MPG, you may never recoup the cost difference with the Odyssey which can be had for thousands less in equivalent trim levels. For me the middle seat situation in top trims is a deal breaker. I need 8 people and I need sometimes to take out the seats.
Toyota is killing the competition and it is because you get 36 MPG in the city and honda gets 17... not even close dude. Not to mention the AWD is only available on a sienna. There is a reason they have been sold out for 3 years everywhere now.
@@MSH786 lol. Really 1973-4 gas crunch, lots of emptied gas tanks which brought you the current version of your gas tank so people couldn’t shove a hose in it and steal your gas. I was driving along out to there pregnant with my first when suddenly my car died. This guy stopped to help and I will never forget his face poking his head through my passenger window and saying ‘sweetheart you are out of gas’ like I was an idiot. Someone had siphoned out my tank, which, you had to stand in line to fill because it was being rationed. Odd days were for odd numbered auto tags and even for even. My husband was buying black market gas so he could go to his jobs paying twice the price. Gas had doubled by 1980. Back when everything was easy, lol.
I've been carefully looking at these two minivans, and am leaning toward the Honda. But there are FIVE trim packages for the Odyssey: EX, EX-L, Sport, Touring and Elite.
He was not fair to compare the top level trim Sienna with the lower level trim Odyssey and not even mention at every point that the Odyssey has every dang option he kept mentioning the boring toyota had. the toyota front interion felt claustrophobic.
Hi Alex. Not sure what list you saw that on...but no minivan appears on any "fastest selling" list I have seen. I am not trying to be adversarial, I just haven't seen any minivan on those lists. Most are SUV's.
@@Chadscarcomps All you have to do is Google the question What are currently the top ten fastest selling vehicles? You’ll see that the Sienna is included.
Sienna has very few days on market because its demand is greater than supply/production. However, most recent numbers that I've seen have shown that the Honda Odyssey has had higher annual sales numbers than the Sienna. One source listed annual sales of Odyssey in 2022 and 2023 as 47,615 and 71,511 and for the Sienna, 20,061 and 32,825. That being said, the Sienna had >100k sold in 2021, the first year of its refresh and transition to hybrid powertrain
@yazars you have done your homework. :-) The last 5 years of sales data is so crazy. Covid really caused the auto industry to go haywire. There are still many lingering effects of Covid with chip availability, pricing surges, lack of inventory for some manufacturers, the ebb and flow of EV demand, interest rate hikes, etc. Once Covid has been in our rearview for 5 or more years, then we can see trends for sales numbers that makes sense with little to no outside pressures.
I use a wheelchair, I removed the rear seat behind the driver, then the sliding seat bracket from my 2022 Honda Odyssey so I can load my wheelchair behind me, no handicap conversion nonsense for me, I never considered the Sienna once I heard it was 4 cylinder CVT, no way, never, I prefer the Honda, I travel back and fourth through the Smokey Mountains from Tennessee to North Carolina, so far my van has been loaded with several coolers full of beef from a cow we had cut up, it handled the load quite well, you could tell it was loaded tho. I've been used to big vans that get single digit gas mileage so believe me, 26 MPG is a blessing, and I need a vehicle that lasts, this replaced my 99 E350, it got 15 MPG at best when new. I don't know why they all need a sunroof/moon roof, its just something to leak later, stop putting holes in vehicle roofs. The Honda will shut off if in traffic long periods, I hate that, turn it off, and I miss using a key, shut it off and the radio stays on until you open the door, making you think its still running. #1 Pet peeve is with the windows down the damn back doors wont open all the way, another unwanted safety feature for morons, I can't get my wheelchair in or out unless the sliding door is all the way open.
We are in the market to purchase a vehicle. Currently own a Honda Odyssey. Love this vehicle! it has served us well for 12 years but now. we are going to try the Toyota Sienna Hybrid due to the low gas mileage and I love the outlook of the car better on the inside
True. Plus no one mentions that the Hybrid batteries have to be changed around 100,000 miles which cost 3000-6000$ 🤔 . Media always leave that part out
I would spend good money for an AWD Odyssey with a 6 spd manual transmission with locking differentials. Make the car higher but make it fun, functional and with snow and off road capabilities
You might be one of 100 people in the world that would want that. lol. 6 speed manual in a minivan. Probably the Toyota Previa of 1998 would have had that. :-)
I have a 2021 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara with a V6 6 speed manual Lots of fun, but it sucks in city driving. I couldn't see that set up in a minivan- unless it was an MPV.
2026 Honda Odyssey will have AWD Hybrid already announced by Honda. It will kick Sienna out of the curb. It going to be what everyone expected finally.
I am 6' even and 300 lbs. Fat thighs so my legs need to splay out. A wide center console does not allow that. The Honda does not have that restrictive center console. And I like their tried and true V-6 engine.
The Sienna is very claustrophobic in the front row. Its like they made it for Japanese drivers and the second row for Japanese executives. The 3rd row an after through for their "secretaries" ...ehem ehem. ....
Nice comparison video. I will be buying the Toyota 2024 Platinum trim level w/expected delivery in April 2024. I don't mind that 2021 thru 2024 are all essentially the same. I fell in "love" with the 2021 Sienna when I drove a rental that year. To me...2024 simply means "tried and true" for reliability and such. Respect to Honda I just want the Toyota for specific reasons top two being AWD and Hybrid. Peace.
to each thier own, for me a hybrid add an additional point of failure and that the battery which will need to be replaced at some point. Honda v6 280hp is a beast.
Sienna is still in high demand for the hybrid and reliability and AWD. Odyssey has the better 2nd row seats and larger 3rd row imo. Power is adequate in the hybrid sienna regardless of what people think. I would still choose the toyota. My sister's 19 odyssey has 65k miles and the transmission had to be replaced, not to mention every family member with Hondas have larger issues than Toyota's. Many don't want to believe it, but the prius.. which is pretty much what the sienna is based on, is one of the most reliable cars on the road. Reliability matters in the long term, for family and peace of mind.. I'll take that over the cool magic seats.
2002 Odyssey - had to replace 3 transmissions 30k, 90k (if I remember correctly) and then like 120k ish. Gave it to the junk yard after last one went out. Heard that half of all that year had transmission failures. Prob why the replacements were expensive too. 2014 Sienna replaced water pump at 145k so far. Probably get another Sienna tho. Wish they kept the rear wiper in the top position
Thanks for the comment. There is no doubt Honda has the upper hand with seating and flexibility. I didn't even show how the second row seats can shift left-right to change the configuration.
What's up with Toyota's infotainment system? It looks like a cheap old casio game. Then go look at the infotainment center on the Kia Carnival.Twice as elegant twice As clean cosmetically and sophisticated looking.
I agree with you! The white background on the Sienna and Camry (and maybe others) looks so bad, IMO. Expect that theme to go away with newer versions of Toyota products
The Kia clearly wins on looks. the sienna, with the hybrid option, appears to have the advantage, but the initial higher cost does not allow for people to recoup any savings unless they keep the vehicle for a very long time and drive many miles, mixed driving. And if you do intend to keep the vehicle along time, the Kia Warranty is so much longer. It almost makes a decision to no-brainer.
VCM system in odyssey’s suck!! Cause engine oil consumption- rings freezing to pistons. Have had a 2011 with 150k miles, now getting massive problems, even though we took care of it, it has reached its end of life😩
You forgot about the Sport package for the Odyssey to make 5 different trims. Also you compare a Sienna Platinum package over an Odyssey EX-L model, which is next in line after the base EX model. Why didn't you compare this Sienna to an Odyssey Elite model? You were better off comparing the Odyseey to a Sienna XLE model. This is not a full apples to apples comparison here.
Thanks for the comment. I did not mention the Sport trim, you are correct…my mistake. If I could have gotten my hands on an Odyssey Elite I would have compared that. I was limited to the trim levels that were available at the dealership at the time I filmed the comparisons, unfortunately.
I had both, now I drive the Honda just because Toyota wables too much to right and left gave me bad headaches all the time, i like Honda better much faster and better handles in corners too
The 2024 model has more features than this 2021 model. Couple examples: 3rd row does have sunshade. 2nd row seats slide left and right when center seat is out. You should use the rights years to review.
Thanks for the comment, Jared. In my video I mention that I couldn’t get a 2024 Sienna. They are in such high demand and Toyota isn’t producing enough to meet demand. They are all sold before they hit the lot. My only choice was to review a mostly unchanged model in the 2021 Sienna.
Drivibility wise,we love hondas! Plus resale value isnt bad and the prices are better with whT u get. Toyotas are marked up and doesnt even have a remote start or u have to subscribe.yikes.
Honda remote start only works if you are right next to it, you can reach in and start it you are so close, not an impressive option, I used to open my other van via remote from 30 feet away.
A new Odyssey is coming! Expect a pretty radical design change on the exterior. It should most likely look like the Pilot/Accord/Civic front end being squared off. I expect the upper trim levels will get hybrid powertrain and all of the latest safety features. Overall I agree with you…Odyssey has carried on since 2018 essentially unchanged. This is a couple of years past Hondas normal 5-6 year cycle of redesign
@@whyallthefuss201 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8QntclKl4-E.html Take a look at this video. I would expect the redesign to look like this. I have seen these pictures and video on multiple sites. The issue is you may not be able to get your hands on one for awhile. I would expect them to offer the hybrid, but maybe not on all trims. Powertrain details are just a guess at this point.
@@Chadscarcomps thanks for the info. I would imagine the Odyssey hybrid version will be just as popular as the latest Sienna.However, I’m willing to sacrifice few mpg for smoother and more powerful ICE engine in the 25 Odyssey. Having said that, I still like the 24 Odyssey and may pull the trigger to buy one
Wish you compared the platinum to an elite for an apples to apples. Also the biggest plus for Honda are the magic slide seats. Being able to keep a car set in place and slide over for third row access is great. Both cars are so bad at tech for US versions. The Asian market models are so much better
@Chadscarcomps lmao. 🤷♂️I guess ya. Awesome review. My sister needs something a lot bigger for her cooking school for all the things she totes back and forth to the class. She also wants good gas mileage because she drives a good 35 minutes each way Karma but it doesn't look like the Honda is as good as I once thought for gas mileage. I thought somewhere I read that it's like 35 MPG or more but the more I look it's like only 20 something. And it doesn't look like that 2025 is ever coming around in the way they promised.
