The Shroud of Turin - Fact or Fiction 

Wrongly underestimated, because Turin is a wonderful city with fine architecture and a "stile" of its own.

And you have FIAT, correct?

@@ven1805 correct. The FIAT industries were here. At some point they failed and they messed them up, but they were still an important part of the history of this city and Italy. Now FIAT doesn't exist anymore, it's been bought by a series of other bigger, more successful foreign car brands

Wow

When will the Shroud be available to visitation again? I would like to visit it some day, if I may in this decade.

Yes he responded to mine... hes a wonderful man...

What about chromosome samples apparently only being of a mother? Is that an authentic fact?

@@Brother_Jack hematology from the blood on the shroud

The thing is fake. It is proven. The dating proved it to be a fake. The weave was not from the first century. Only one team was ever allowed to examine it. There were multiple shrouds claimed to be those from Jesus. One was even claimed to have performed miracles but was later discovered to be Muslim.

@@DaveCM I thought they showed that the carbon dating was flawed.

@@DaveCM he talked about this in this video. When it was carbon dated, the sample they took was from the part where the shroud was repaired after being damaged in a fire around the 11th century,. Watch the video dude, then comment.

Let's not forget that the Disciples of Jesus saw him as He Transfigured as a blinding brilliance on The Mount. It is written in The Gospel. Amen

"A picture is worth (more than) 1000 words." The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. But you shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.

Stay away from the aliens for they are demonic entities. Watch in the morning the video UFOs, nephilim Giants, and the early church fathers by defeat modernism.

@@jacobitewiseman3696 true!

bollocks

"Behold, I stand at the door and knock."

@Darren good for you! Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ!

Skilled

Had exactly the opposite reaction. Brian seemed preoccupied with his notes and talking points. Frankly he seemed impatient at times with the enthusiastic guest. It's an age thing. When you get to the last of your competent years--and dwindling time is at the forefront of your thoughts--you are rushed to get it all out, what you've learned, what's important to know. A joyful brain dump while the mechanism still works. Brian is at the center of his intellectual/soul pursuits. Measured and focused, keeping a complex life in hand. All appropriate, if in this case a tad rude to my eyes. As I said, it's an age thing.

As usual

@@dannybaseball2444 going on almost 90 years, brain still sharp as a tack, I fully understand what you are saying, Mr. Dan. I have stood very close to the Shroud, twice in my long life. Awesome, beautiful, inspiring, holy. And I do love Brian, he is so ....NOW.

@@garobinson33 Truly an awesome, beautiful and inspiring piece of medieval art. The guy who made it was a genius.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

@@allingtonmarakan1436 you disagree?

@YAJUN YUAN ohh okay and your source?

Now we know it is complete Hoax along with many others. Raises a lot of questions.

He does believe. He openly says it's Jesus. What is your point? Does he have to call him God or something? That is NOT going to happen. His JOB was to prove or disprove the Shroud. He, and many many others, PROVED it is authentic.

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I AGREE THE JEWS NEED TO EMBRACE CHRIST NOW AS THEIR MESSIAH COZ HE TRULY IS

Hundreds of generations of humans have lived and died saying "he's coming back soon, no, really he is this time!" Christians are the most gullible humans on the planet.

What’s even more sad, is how gullible religious folks are and buy into these scams so easily….

@@therealatheistexperience7654 What’s even more sad is that anti-theists believe that everything can from nothing.

@@gch8810 so who created the " creator"? And what evidence do you have for those claims?🤔

@@therealatheistexperience7654 Logically nothing could have because he was not created. I say this as if it were a proven fact, but it's not, of course, materially provable. It's logically demonstrable, however. There are only two options open to us; either we accept SOME uncreated creator, OR we accept the notion of infinite energy. That is to say, as Aristotle said, all created things must, by definition, have a creator. As you yourself note, this continues ad infinitum. You have parents, have parents, have parents, back through evolution until we have the first life on earth, which was created by free carbon, which was created by atmosphere around the earth, etc, back to the big bang. This is fairly standard secular thought, right? So we can either suppose that the big bang was caused by something that existed in advance of it; or it was there before anything. But if it regresses infinitely, how can it not progress infinitely? And if we accept an infinite big bang, how is that meaningfully different from a creator, from the limited perspective of natural logic? So then we proceed further, and we suppose some other infinite creative force, which in a series of creations, was not itself created. Now I hear many people say that they could imagine a universe which goes on infinitely; the big bang theory fails to support this, given that the universe continues to accelerate outward and shows no signs of potential retraction. But this operates by the same theory as the infinite energy machine, which powers itself indefinitely. Science has derided and will continue to deride such things as a physical impossibility, and I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. But then, whence motive creation in the universe?

@@soulcutterx13 Special pleading for your non-existent sky wizard. Everything that exists had to have a beginning, (according to WIlliam Lame Cwaig), so when did your god begin and what caused him to begin existing? Rational thinkers do NOT believe everything came from nothing. For a start, define 'nothing'. "NO-THING" does not exist. Even in the supposedly empty vacuum of space, fundamental particles are popping in and out of existence all the time.

Amen

Barrie Schwortz was of Jewish heritage origin and faith but is now Catholic in case people don't know He found the true Church founded by Jesus Christ himself by studying the Holy Shroud

The shroud was created from the energy, remember the one story where he ran into Mary and he told her not to touch him. It was an energy force of his spirit

Can't fulfill God's promises if we save all jews today now can we. Lol

@Islayman.you Failed to work me with respect, whats with the hateful tone and name calling, is this your work you belive in? Its nothing to get upset over. Apoerantly your uneducated to all theology and fear knowing all things as scripture encourages us to do . But If ya want understand , With good faith your clearly going to perform good works. Its not a by faith argument ,its one made a big deal by higher archy church structures that must push works. Ita at yiur foundation of theology it influences doctrine from very start down. You lose free will it become demernistic God creating humans for hell. By grace of God alone. It covers no one that way . All churches agree we live in the church age . Pre temple is under mosaic law in this age its a time of sacrifice "works' and "faith" clearly noah had to have faith to then work on a boat.lol. Here in church age it is no calling for such encantations ,works of sacrifice or anything of this ritualistic nature. Remembrance is it. Tribulation is all works. Gonna require work to refuse the mark of the beast. By faith is removing that one foot from this human world corrupted by the sin of man and Satan. Its choosing a pure path to be chosen to go and pave the way along with those few martyrs in waiting. First he takes the dead them living. They will sit on his right shoulder and prepare the way. Then the first seal of Tribulation is broken. . You can make that concoius decision to stay behind and help. By doing so you can have the wealth of this world you like along the way. Enrich yourself in canes world by doing so you enrich the church power and influence. This is your calling not mine .

CHECK 1 CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 15 VERSE 51 ....SAINT PAUL SAID BEHOLD I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY ..I BELIEBE 100% SAINT PAUL SHOWED THE SHROUD OF HEAVENLY LIGHT TO THE CORINTHIANS

@@marieloucaccam500 The mystery Paul was showing is not the shroud, it is what is going to happen at the resurrection.

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I heard the light emitted theory. I've always wondered why the hair and beard would emit light. It's dead protein cells. The body I get why it might emit radiation, but hair?

@@allenanderson4911 There is dna there - Our Lord DNA. We are talking about a divine person, I'd say this is not simply "dead protein cells", it's divine protein cells.

Your last sentence explains everything. There are opposing forces that benefit from the confusion.

I have heard DNA has light - and the moment of the RESURRECTION every cell came alive

I've come across that one too. That the amount of light was way beyond our capacity to recreate even with our most advanced technology. There is also a video out there that used the shroud to generate a 3D composite of Christ's body. Where they estimated over 600~800 wounds to his body. May have been the same documentary actually.

worlds first photocopy tho /:)

Amen !

World's first 3D scan! :-)

that's a fantastic way of putting it

A selfie? You mean those photos that people take of themselves with fake smiles to prove to others what a great time they are having? Is THAT what you mean??

Your 80? Any proof?

@@Lion_Hamza You're proof? Any 80?!

Now we know it is complete Hoax along with many others. Raises a lot of questions.

Very cool. You could write an article on your perspective over time. 👍🙏

@@sotem3608 Proof 80? You’re any?

False the evidence is staggering its mid evil lol

@Cathy Greene No evidence for any thing Mystical lol

@Cathy Greene Or… it’s a forgery that wasn’t mentioned by anyone ever until the 13th century. And there were many other fake shrouds that came earlier.😂

@@ShroudofTurinISAuthentic NOT

Thank you

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Amen

Hi, this is a friendly rebuke when you say the omg thing its actually blasphemy. Because your taking the name of God invain. Without due honor.Godly Jews don't write or even say his name because its so Holy.

@@jonathannixon8652 silly question….but what abut when we meant to say “gush” not god.

Those who appreciate (are grateful) will appreciate (increase; get more). That's the meaning of the parable of the talents. And here is more: The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. You shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.

Shelly that's when He returned to life

@@mjramirez6008 , yes, of course! And I always kind of assumed that the image on the shroud was made at the moment of resurrection. I imagine that was a moment accompanied by tremendous power and energy. But when I realized from watching this video that the image is of a dead man, it made me think more deeply about what it meant for God (God!) to die.

God didn’t die.

Shelly Imagawa So you Creationist believer? FYI the idea of a Creator went out the window around sixty or so years or so with the emergence of Evolution which, as a matter of record, is taught in every major University in the world including Oxford and Cambridge.

@@timward3142 Major universities teach many things, critical race theory for instance. (as if there was more than one race of human being). Tell me sir, what tree did Adam and Eve eat from? It was the tree of knowledge. The wisdom of men is foolishness to God. Science is theory. A deduction of men. It is not fact nor is it set in stone. It is partial truth or some truth mixed with much assumption. Theory is not fact. An example would be with our current situation. The “science”has changed much hasn’t it? The men of science can’t figure out things happening right now, much less things that happened thousands of years ago. Science tells us that the entire universe expanded from something smaller than a single atom. If that is truly the case, That sounds like creation to me friend. Isaiah “44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone. KJV Look at the wording. He STRETCHED FORTH the Heavens. Sounds like science agrees with scripture friend. What does science say the first organisms come from? I believe their description is primordial ooze. From earth. From water and soil. What does God say Adam is created from? Genesis “2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”KJV Also, God created the beasts of the earth and the foul of the air before he created man. All of this fits perfectly with science doesn’t it? Man was Gods final creation. The scientific timeline of events fits with this doesn’t it? Man has not been on this earth long. Before you go on saying that God created the heavens and the earth in only six days, realize that you are determining your time by a planet that didn’t exist spinning around a star that didn’t exist. Kind of foolish when you think about it. The Bible tells us that a man’s life is but the blink of an eye to God. If that is so, how long is a day to God? Think about it. You can put your faith in science. I will put my faith in God. God Bless

Now we know it is complete Hoax along with many others. Raises a lot of questions.

To clarify: the exhibit was *on* the Shroud, complete with full-size replica, but not *of* the actual Shroud itself.

"examination of the evidence" Doesn't evidence destroy faith?

@@sledzeppelin why would evidence destroy faith?

@@ironymatt Isn't believing just to believe it kind of the point? God doesn't seek to prove his existence, you just have to believe it, is what I've always been told when I ask Christians about it. If you have evidence, then you're no longer believing on faith.

@@sledzeppelin it's "both/and", rather than "either or". At any rate, if you ask 100 different people what they mean by something, you'll get 100 differing opinions (not necessarily by a lot, but as a means of arriving at truth it has it's limits - especially if conducted via RU-vid). If you truly want to understand as fully as possible, look at how the Catechism of the Catholic Church characterizes faith - it isn't the blind mindless act that you're describing.

TRUTH is at the core of all religions. But you have to MINE in order to FIND. (Blind faith is blind.) The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. You shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.

scientists in 21st century cannot duplicate the shroud or come even close to the shroud, let alone some medieval guy could do it back then, right...

@@commendatore2516 It isn't the purview of scientists to reproduce the Shroud. Several artists have produced copies of the Shroud or portions of it, however, using materials available during medieval times. Joe Nickell has demonstrated a number of times how the Shroud was made using powdered aloes and cotton daubers.

Well John, what's your definition of "studying"?

100 percent its old, 100 percent it never covered Jesus or any other human for that matter.

@@Gwaithmir bullshit

How would you explain his lack of belief? What rationale must he follow in order to justify his conclusions?

God's covenant with the Jews is eternal, whether he adopts a prescribed (by you) form of religion, or not.

Brian the people demand it you must deliver! +1 vote for Our Lady of Guadalupe

@@Thomasfboyle I would love that...I would like to add the image left in the rock at Our Lady of Las Lajas! We have a good and loving God! I believe that He knows, as humans, that these tangible things really helps us with our faith! Eucharistic Miracles are amazing too! Thank you Jesus! 🌷

Yes! A video on my favorite..Our Lady of Guadalupe plz! Last night I was looking in both of my calendars and they didn’t have the feast day for Our Lady of Guadalupe. Wasn’t sure why that was…

Ooh yes ! And travel is a tax write off!

The paint on the seam is chipping. The moon was repainted to be larger. The original crown was removed by painting over it. The gold stars were a later addition. When did Juan Diego ever exist? I believe in lots of things but I don't have to believe everything.

I was thinking the same thing about that “nice chalice”. 🤩🙏🏼

The guest had long hair also! He had a ponytail! Watch The Chosen too. The seem to try to be accurate about the culture then, hair etc! 😄😃👏

@Chase Moore That is a very good point

Hes just trying to draw our attention to his hair which he's obviously modelled to look like Jesus!!! A childish and pathetic attempt to liken himself to jesus... of jesus had l9ng hair he certainly wasn't white! Its pathetic how anglo Saxon people think of jesus as one of their race... he was everything mist of them play superior over... he was a middle Eastern man... not white with red hair...

@Chase Moore and your animosity isn't exactly "in the spirit of what Jesus was teaching " you hypocrite... trying to remove a splinter in my eye whilst you got a tree in yours?

@Chase Moore go and chastise your wife... if you got one you heathen

It doesn't take faith to see that "a picture is worth a thousand words." (But it takes willful ignorance NOT to see it.) The Shroud is the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. But you shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.

Good point.

It took us 1800 years to realize the so called oxidised yellow was a photographic negative. About a couple of hundred years more to get the three dimensional part and now it seems that we can use laser scanning to get more precise info and possibly create a stroboscopic recreation of the Resurrection... God always has the last laugh and THE WORD has probably packed more data in the Simple Shroud than in all the Books of the Bible... God bless the Scientists who are unravelling the Secrets of the Shroud...

it is, its this weird thing called "Photography" You should check it out, might be big in the future

@@DayLateGamerWill oh thanks I hadn’t heard of that

The Gospels also tell us there was a second cloth, folded and separate from the other. Jewish law requires that anything containing the victim’s blood or bodily fluids be buried with the body. Once Jesus was taken down from the cross, his face and head were wrapped in a smaller cloth or napkin, which absorbed the blood and fluids from his nose and mouth. This second cloth, known as the Sudarium, has also survived to the present day and is now kept in the cathedral in Oviedo, Spain, where it has resided since the 7th century. If the sudarium is placed on the facial image of the Shroud of Turin, it is apparent that they depict the image of the same man.

Also- Amen.

And nice chalice.

That word "debunked". I do not think it means what so many in the popular culture seem to think it means

ironymatt you have a good point

@@kerrytopel9835 debunk: expose the falseness or hollowness of an idea or belief (accordingto the dictionary). That's how I understand it. What does the popular culture think it means?

Keep the faith.

@@olgac.h.1278 Nowadays "debunked" is used to describe something that people want to be false. Biased fact checkers for example. "Did AOC lie about being at the Jan 6 riot?" "Fact check false, she was not actually at the Jan 6 riot." Don't mean for this to be political its just the first example that came to mind.

Colm, do you happen to have any articles about the Shroud that you'd recommend?

@@sebastianofmilan I do somewhere. I'll try find them now.

@@colmwhateveryoulike3240 👍🏻

I never assumed it was a hoax, because if it was, then it would've been a bigger mystery.

@@Peter-kl8jg I held that assumption as an atheist before I encountered God so it was formed without really examining the evidence so I can see what you mean now I have seen the evidence. Or do you have a different angle?

When did you do this forensic evaluation? Did you publish your findings? If so, in what forum - be specific with dates, volumes, etc. The Vatican only lets a very select few examine the shroud so from where did you gain permission?

Indeed. People are waiting for the return, when He never left! And the Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. But you shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.

Perhaps this will assuage your disappointment somewhat. Because, if you didn't watch this video and make this comment, you wouldn't have received this: The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah. You shouldn't believe that, since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.

They speak about the scientific evidence throughout the interview (ie: Barry explains that they used light to determine whether or not the fabric had been scorched to achieve the look that it had, and the result was that it was not scorched) that’s in my own words but that for sure is SPEAKING of scientific tests etc. Maybe give it another listen? I think I’m sold but I’m a believer anyway so it was an easy sell for me ;) plus he refers to his website throughout where you can find “data” that may help you

Atheist ask for evidence, but they can't handle the truth when they are faced with facts. They deny and ignore and go into a sensory lockdown and all logic seem to fade away

Wikipedia ALWAYS pushes the now slant/disinformation

You could try to edit the wikipedia entry - it is possible (unless censored)

Has he not ?

God may very well be letting his scientific gifts and respect for evidence be a source of confidence for many. God is running the show not us divine psychology majors.

Cultural and tribal pride... They don't wanna sacrifice what they perceive as their Jewishness.

Jesus was a Jew his family & his disciples were Jewish & he preached to Jews. It's a burial cloth & if someone wanted to fake it all the details are all in the Bible. Why would a person convert it's not like it's 100% proven to be Jesus or he rose from the dead. Just saying.

One of my favorite topics, as well. And I have some "inside information." The Shroud is indeed the real deal. So is this: "The Book of God" at A Course in Truth. I'm the prophesied return of Elijah, but you shouldn't believe that since you don't have good reason to. But it will take less than 10 minutes for you to read "The Book of God" online...and see if that doesn't "blow your mind." You are blessed.