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The front brake is ok, if you actually ride SM and ride aggressive. You need the oversized brake. No getting around it. Also Angel GT or any other sportbike tire on a supermoto, will not heat up to operating temperatures. The bike is too light, so you will not get the grip you do on you chr. You need supermoto tires with a higher carbon content so they reach temp and become grippy. Your speedo mount, if you use the suspension fully, you will damage it. You can add zip tie to the chrome part of the fork as a guage to monitor your travel to see what I mean. I love you buddy but you give lots of uneducated facts and lead your fans wrong my friend
You must have ridden old dirt bike supermotos, times have changed bro. Try this 2019 yz and will see the light! As far as tires, the sumo forum is the place that recommended the Pirelli Angel GT's. For the record, these Shinko 705's are fine, just not much better than street tires off-road. I've off-roaded my CBR1000rr on Pirelli Angel GT's lol. That's when I knew it was time for a dual sport.
@@LouCFur90 I am saying they have s very hard time getting up to temp. To utilized the grip they are designed for. It's not impossible but it sure takes a long time. Tires should be roughly 170 degrees to have the grip. Surely no less than 130 degrees. Also the 690 is quite a bit heavier so the tires heat up more.
Having owned a 701, they absolutely are a pig. Even compared to my drz400, the 701 FELT heavy. I sold it and bought a crf450rx, after watching this build i wanted to build my own.
@@CycleCruza Its absolutely everything I wanted, its honestly a little insane though. Even though this bike has 10hp less than the 701, it feels twice as powerful. It hits so hard and revs to the moon. Price dictated the purchase though, I was able to snag a 2019 for 8k OTD, Yamaha & husky weren't really wanting to work with me so the Honda it was. I kinda miss the wide ratio transmission and the wifi would have been cool, but itll still do 100mph, which is more than enough to kill me. The only difference i can notice in the trans, is that 1st gear is a bit longer, but it works great for hooligan riding.
Husky 701 is a beast! I get what you’re saying about the weight and off-road however plenty of people do it. I’m not going to say not to buy one bike and to buy another. Just get out there and try it for yourself !
Another thing when I first saw the bike I thought there was too much blue on the side panels and what not but Ive actually grown to like the looks a lot...minimalism is where its at!
I own supermoto its is amazing and i dont have registration so when i see a police is trying to get me i just turn into woods and i laugh at them xD i know that is not your style but is so funny to do and i save 600eur per year
You built my dream bike. Great videos! Good tips and advice also. Thanks man. I want to build one to put behind the sleeper on my semi for some light weight fun wheels.
Is Superscroto the new adventure bike fad? Husqvarna is already overcharging for them but what's new? That's Husqvarna's m.o. We've gone beyond valve adjustments for street, now piston changes are required, lol. I can hear it now, " Sorry Bob, can't ride this weekend, the bike needs another piston change!"
@@CycleCruza It's a nice way to put it, just like arcades to console video games especially in the 90s. Arcades are more fun, and addictive, but you have to pay each time to play.
I said the same thing about my wr250r's weight before I rode this yz450fx, lol. And my wr250r only weighs 289 lbs wet as where my yz is 256 lbs, makes my wr feel like fat cow. I could not imagine 340 lbs and the Husky is physically bigger. There is no way you can take that to a motocross track and ride trails all day on it. I'm sure it's a great street bike though, just won't feel like a mountain bike like this yz. A rocket powered mountain bike!
CycleCruza i dont agree, i used to ride my xr650r on the track, amd trails all day, and those are big red pigs but once you get going they feel light and that torque is amazingggg!!
Cyclecruza. The other day i had a fucked up day! I am glad i had a helmet, coat and gloves. I was wearing jeans. I am planning on getting better pants, even though that wouldn't have helped with some injuries. Still i am grateful for the gear i had. Worth every penny. I live in Kansas and it snowed earlier. I forgot about the sand on the road and i hit it. First mistake, i overtook someone too slow. 2, i missed my regular turn so i made the turn i don't usually do with the motorcycle. 3, i made the turn too fast. 4, i neglected to change my summer visor so it affected my view in a very dark corner. The bike slid on the left turn, fell on my leg and dragged me. I have a huge scratch on my knee but that's the least of the worries. I am still glad i had the rest of the gear. My hand would be crushed and knuckle bone showing. My elbow and arm would be worse than my leg. I would have left my face on the street. Literally. I could have died that night from the angle my head hit the road. I have beem riding for over 10 years and i have never dropped the bike like this. Eventually we all fall. Wear gear. It's worth every penny!!!
Love the video! I have been searching for the right bike to do a supermoto build with and I think you convinced me on this! Might shoot an email with some questions in the future!
Change the piston every 12 hours?! And people say ktms are bad. I have 100 hours on my 500 excf and all I've changed is the oil around every 15-20 hours and a couple tires... And the tires to get are the contiattack sm. They are built for light weight supermotos so they heat up faster. Sport bike tires are made for 450lb bikes, a 250 lb bike wont push down hard enough to get them warm unless youre going flat out.
Badass bike makes me miss my Yamaha DT400 my uncle had a Honda cr500 my other uncle had a Kawasaki kx500 my cousin had a Yamaha 426 both of my uncle's raced motocross and supercross we rode every weekend Friday Saturday and Sunday
That 690/701 maintenance schedule isn't looking so bad now, lol. My 690 smc weighs about 300 lbs. I'll take the 50 pounds over all that service. Your 450 is pretty sick, I can't argue against that, but I don't know why you were so worried about maintenance. You pretty much ended up buying/building the highest maintenance bike you could find. Also, you do not need to change the piston after 12 hours. Keep up on your valves/oil changes and the top end will make it at least 100 hours.
Man I see comments below about that you need an oversized brake ( 4 piston caliper) and for what you use the bike for your ( 2 piston caliper ) will be fine, i don"t think it is necessary , I would upgrade the front rotor to a free floating one ( It allows the rotor to self-center in the caliper, reducing drag and as a result it stays cooler ) You could put the solid rotor on the dirt wheels you have so you don't have to mess with the caliper adapter if you swap back and forth from sumo to dirt, also you rarely use your front brake in the dirt, same goes for the rear dirt wheel, just get a 44 tooth for it and you don't have to swap the chain every time as well....as for tires... the shinkos are a pig of a tire and a lighter tire you will notice a diff... since there were some comments below about tires I might as well put in my own damn 2 cents.... For street riding you want a Dual Compound ( harder center for street riding and softer shoulder for lean angle ) tire... as everyone knows street tires are a harder compound and track tires are softer compound..... My ( 1st ) choice for dual compound tires for sumo is the Michelin Power 2CT , lean angle of 50.6 degrees dry and 41.9 degrees wet..their light, warm up quick and sticky as hell.. # ( 2 ) would have to be the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2 (Bi - Compound)...lean angle stats are similar......Just my opinion.....Ride Safe.......
KTM 1290 super Duke? C’mon cycle cycle, test ride it dude!!!! I bet cha the motorcycle shop would appreciate your unbiased opinion and the marketing that comes along with it. Doooo it!!
You will get 70+hrs out of the stock piston. Buy a micrometer and bore gauge and check the parts when you tear it down @ 12hrs, put the parts back in and tell me I was right!
That's what the manual states and the phone app as I showed you. As stated you can let the piston kit slide a bit because of mostly riding street but I'm hard on the throttle, so i will probably just get the bike serviced once or twice a year. Have them check the valves and put in a new piston kit. I will eventually learn how to put in the piston kit myself. They say this YZ can get 100 hours easy without a valve check.
Good review 👍🏾. Id imagine you could go a good ways on that piston. Maybe good to do the first rebuild yourself so you can measure everything and get a good idea how long it actually would take for the clearances to be out of spec with your usage.
Would you know what's the KTM equivalent of this bike? I'm curious if the maintainance is better or worse. Wow, a piston every 12 hrs that's shameful, Yamaha!! AWESOME videos, Cyclecruza 👍👍 THE bug out van is AWESOME!!
front brake is enough only for easy riding. if you try to learn stopie or try sm race or even training on sm track - THIS brakes is very fast become very hot and IT WILL NOT ENOUGH!
12 hours is completely false, I don't know who came up with that. You can easily go a few hundred hours on a 450 if you don't push it hard, maybe like 100 if you like to twist the throttle a lot.
No. lol Maybe once a year I'll have the bike fully serviced, otherwise, I'm just doing oil changes and air filter cleanings. We'll see what happens. lol They say valves will stay in spec for at least a 100 hours on this YZ.
To everyone freaking out in the comments, this bike doesn't need a piston change every 12 hours, that's completely insane and false, and I don't care what it says in the manual. It's more like 200 hours if you're a relaxed rider and 100-150 if you like to push it some of the time. Motocross guys who push their bikes really hard literally 100% might need to do it very often, but that doesn't apply to 99% of you and even "low maintenance" dual sports would need a rebuild with that kind of abuse. At 12 hours the bike is barely run in with the way most people ride, you don't even need to change the oil that often.
We'll see because I have no intention of replacing the piston but no more than once a year at most. I'm going to have the bike fully serviced once a year, valve check, piston replacement, etc. I'm just doing oil changes, air filter cleanings, chain cleaning etc. We'll see what happens. lol
I I was to get a 450 would I be able to ride this on the road in the uk?? If I make it road legal? I haven’t passed my full bike test but I have a cbt and I’m 20 years old
Honestly, I like the two factory maps on the bike, I may not even change it. However, I really like the maintenance feature, live monitor and engine diagnostics via wifi. I may try to make a custom map just for fun and have somebody send me their custom map.
Thats not an anomaly to this bike at all. Every motorcycle I've owned except for the kick start bikes, if you leave the lights on for 3-4 minutes your pushing it home... I don't leave them on for even a minute. AND you need to check the batt terminals often. They vibrate themselves loose and WILL cause a f'upped up day
"cant go dual sporting" trust me i thought the same thing until i just sent it and hit some pretty serious trails and while it can be sketchy at times it is really surprising how well it handles it with supermoto tires
You don't need to put in a piston at 12 freakin hours that's insane( I have a crf250r) I do oil and filter changes at 15 hours never had a problem yet prolly about 50ish hours on a rebuild. Your not supercrossing the bike. Also and I do valve checks at 30ish hour and they haven't moved. Stay safe cruza
1:15 the CBR1000RR "Absolutely the best purchase that I have ever made!" the WR250RR "Absolutely the best purchase that I have ever made!" the Ducati XDiavel "Absolutely the best purchase that I have ever made!" the YZ450FX Supermoto "Absolutely the best purchase that I have ever made!" yo I'm happy for you and ain't trying to shit on your parade, but it's like this every time you get a new bike. :) LoL
@@CycleCruza I forget you live in Ohio, I am in southern California so we have tracks open year round. On a different topic, you are one hell of an organizer, I think it would be bad ass and probably grow you channel of you started a "Prepping for the Trans America Trail" doing your research of the roots, fuel stops, camping etc then the day you start and the entire journey. That would be awesome and your WR is great for that.
a piston kit after 12 hours xD thats pretty hard core ... and the worst part is Yamaha's wifi module uploads how hi you rev it and other things about your riding and maintenance habbits that the "lawyers" can use to void your warranty I would change the password on the wifi. I'm sure they will still hook up with free wifi at McDonalds and Starbucks for an occasional secret squirrel upload to their servers. So long as that wifi module is on there they can keep an eye on you... Its even got an Alexa open mic option if they choose to listen in xD
CycleCruza ? Where the fine ladies at in ohio man.... ? wheres your friends ? where your kids ? if your a brotha, I like to say your doing good for yourself my brotha. keep doing what you doing.
bruh wtf new piston in 12 hours??? what??? can someone explain this? im kinda new into motorcycles period and im looking to buy an onroad/offroad. is maintenance like this normal?
Its a pretty powerful bike because it has 450cc and this is motocross bike so it would be 12h on motocross track and maybe like 20h in street. Edit: Usually you dont have to do that much of a maintenance but every bike is unique. And also this is not a beginner bike. You can ride so much longer with smaller bikes like 250cc
Oh dear God, that rating is for the fast as fuck racers, Were talking A group. For normal folk it's about 100hrs for slow guys they got 150+. If you know anything, do a leak down test. That's when you truly know when due.
The yz450fx and cr450rx are better because it has a stator to keep the battery charged and allow for the street legal stuff but still has motocross power. They are meant to be hybrid bikes, for both MX and trails.
Wi/fi module excellent idea 💡 Track your maintenance and running ! Saves heaps cash getting the diagnostic device Module at back and app by Yamaha yr 😂
Actually, the app has a button to run diagnostics as well, I forgot to mention that. The 2019 is leaps better than the previous previous generation, not just the wifi module, it has bigger stock tank 2.2 gals and centered down low and still dropped like 10 lbs compared to the previous gen YZFX. The weight of the bike feels so lightweight.
CycleCruza enjoy 😉 bro you seem to know a lot about it 👍🏼just not a fan replacing piston 12 hours use ? Is that for severe racing ...seems to much labour intensive for an average joe after 12 hours of use ? Nevertheless enjoy and luv your videos 👍🏼👍🏼
They are un-paved but flattened gravel, sand, dirt or some mix of the three roads. They are fun on mountain bikes or ATVs or dirt bikes or really any vehicle you can have fun on. Think of Australian Outback.
he doesnt go to the track, CC can say as many times as he wants, but the WR is still used as a mainly street bike, 701 is a street bike and will do everything better, is dumb to buy a track bike if you are only using it for lurking arround on "twisty" roads, "you can go as low as you want" yeah...where? xD his twistiest road are a straight line compared to what i have 5 minutes from my town, just check the "LR-250"(or copy paste this on maps 42°18'14.2"N 2°25'08.0"W) Road on google, it still a really good bike, but is a dumb decision if you dont go to the MX track or a sumo/cart tracks
@@midibudu I dont think its a dumb decision. I would love to have one next to my bed. But as you said its a race bike. Anyway, i think we all know the problem here. We need a single 450 engine for the street. Not like Honda 450L. Actually like a WR450R.
