Chelsea v Millwall was a deadly rivalry in those days. I went to that infamous FA Cup match when my beloved Shed was now temporary seats for Millwall. The violence after the match was unparalleled.
@@britishqueen94 true, only time if i recall was against boro think chels were relegated headed towards away end but fenced in, Bates did love a fence with electric running through it , but think that was just reserved for the shed end😉
A few of my mates were at the Wolves v Chelsea night match at the start of the season, in 1978. On the way from the bus stop past the train station, they were chased by a mob of Chelsea. What scared them was that the Chelsea mob chasing them were not skinheads or boot-boys - they were bearded 30 year old men in donkey jackets. A day or two later, in a record shop with one lad, he pulled the Stranglers Black & White album out of the racks, and said, "Chelsea was just like that!"
I remember Chelsea coming into the Holgate at Boro in 78/ 79. They came very early (about 2pm) and weren't allowed to stay long, but at least they had a go. Can't recall anyone else having a go.
Good shout mate and respect for being honest I was at that game and I remember both firms were behind a stand attacking each other with rocks and since that nigh boro got better I proper rate them in top10
Best Firm i ever seen in 1991 at Villa park last game of season . Never seen Arsenal West Ham or any other London club come in such numbers and cause carnage
Good on you pal, think we won 2-1 might av been 3, we run the villa off the pitch. All this rent boy bollocks we were a bit special. 80s early 90s took numbers everywhere. Think all the northern clubs will all say chelsea always turned up with big numbers!% out of the London clubs West ham were the bollocks got to say it now I think the spuds
We were awesome, in the 80s and early 90s, as you said massive numbers everywhere we went, probably the biggest away surport out of London at that time that game think it was 2-1 possibly 3-1 ran villa off the pitch great days 👍
I was at the Bolton game in 1976 as a 10 year old, there was no official segregation so the embankment end was mixed , a mob of Chelsea entered the embankment singing Chelsea, and a load of Bolton fans mainly kids and teenagers jump the fence ran towards the lever end , where Chelsea fans also made themselves Heard which created a gap between them and the bolton fans , the police formed a barrier between the 2 , at the time was early in the hooligan days so the police / clubs were still trying to get it right , paying on the gate on the day was in the favour of the hoolies, most grounds outside the first division were open to everyone all sides even places like Millwall, europe was a couple years behind, which created problems like st Etienne and Rotterdam , Paris
There's only one book that gives an honest no bullshit account of being a travelling football supporter during it's hayday and a social look at how one lived and it's the brilliant hooligan.sadly Martin is no longer with us
1975 yid game Chelsea were in the shelf and the opposite end to the park lane. Handbags at dawn stuff. Millwall 75 Chelsea got hammered I've never been so scared hid and got the bus home i wasn't going nowhere near that railway station. Grown men fighting now they were hard.
Rate Cardiff very highly 2010 was a load of media bollocks few bits and pieces here and there people got too much to lose son ! Agg, especially in London, just ain't worth the risk long gone era !%%%
Spot on...best illustrated by the YT clip of 3 kings pub near SB...throw bottles at yids and then leg it from yids when they have no missiles left to throw.
Chelsea were certainly the worst behaved mob to come to Molineux back in the 70s, in the 1976-77 game there were 111 arrests as rival fans battled - as the report says there was no fence separating fans on the huge old South bank until the next game the following 1977-78 season. There were about 5000 Chelsea for the first game even though they were meant to be banned, but they didn't take the South Bank but it was very nasty as two huge mobs repeatedly battled. Remember the North Bank was the proper home end back then, but a mob of Wolves went in the huge South bank for a scrap. The following game the next season, yes the fence was up by then in the South Bank and that of course separated the two mobs, perhaps why Chelsea ran round the side of the ground outside and entered the North Bank towards the end of the game, which after 1976 became the old mans end with all Wolves lads going in the South Bank. People did surge forward in panic in the North bank but don't really recall Chelsea actually going onto that terrace in any number, I think they realised that they weren't fighting lads because to be fair they didnt really attack anyone in there. Chelsea were by far the maddest in the old First Division, Forest were also tough lads back then.
@@britishqueen94 ha ha no you didn’t. 1972 UEFA cup final the North Bank was the home end, the Wolves mob only moved to the South Bank in 1977. Spurs brought a lot in the South Bank but as you probably actually know, that was where away fans normally went. The South Bank held 32,000 so although the Wolves mob went there from 1977 the away fans also went in there. Hence they built a fence in 1978. I presume you mean the Queen St gang, yeah was a bit weird why they chose Spurs. The main gang in Wolverhampton at that time was the Temple Street gang who were Wolves thru and thru.
@@OldWolflad No problem...when we went away there was around 50 midland Spurs waiting to hook up with us....I know we had support around Wolverhampton and Worcester
I remember the week before the 77 game at Molineux, walking from the station up to the Shed gates there was someone selling tickets for Wolves about every 50 yards. A few went up and bought tickets in bulk, one or two West Mids blues helped out as well. I paid £1.50 for an 80p terrace ticket. One of the great days out of my youth. I’ll never forget the snack bar under the South Bank at half time, utter carnage. Funny thing was, at the end of the game the mood on the pitch was pretty positive, both going up after all, plenty of handshakes and the like. Then the police got involved and it all started kicking off.
@@Oldgit60 It was madness that day. There must have been 5000 Chelsea in the huge old South Bank, which was the actual away end but where lots of home fans also went. That created a uniquely explosive situation and no one gave any quarter. Of course, in the earlier return fixture at Stamford Bridge, we numbered probably a 1000 and were out of our depth.
@@stephennoone3545 kid dont be silly I was outside on that big park at Warwick park got the better of you but your right we took 50 onto the stretford end but you had numbers but also only the cockney reds made a show at the bridge ps you also forgot backing you off outside mc s fish shop
@@jamieoliver3262 I was 14 or 15 at the time, I was at the back of the bob bank when Chelsea tried to attack it via the Canton end, I'll admit that I was scared because I was just a kid. But my memory wasn't that a copper locked any gates, but instead a bunch of Cardiff formed a barrier. As I say I was just a scared kid, but Cardiff did hold them back from my memory. However I'll never forget how many Chelsea were there and indeed Cardiff couldn't cope.
@@jamieoliver3262 Yes they were closed I remember that, what I meant was that luckily the Cardiff fans stopped them being ripped open, that's what 15 year old me was grateful for. There's no question about the Chelsea firm that day. It was massive, I remember walking towards the rail bridge to go home and a forking paving slab smashed down just in front of me from you lot on the train tracks! Suffice to say I went home another direction. Haha.
Inaccurate. The Huddersfield Chelsea game when a Chelsea fan was killed was a league game. The FA cup game was earlier & Chelsea brought hardly any fans.
1986....Southbank totally crammed, won 2-1....held in for eternity after the match and biggest police escort to the station, trains ran direct to Earls Court, never seen as many Chelse at WHUFC before....no major trouble but a brilliant night.
@@chelseachelseaboymate am rangers but Chelsea been team down south nightmare, fez and others class as right up there friends for life ps gotta mind West ham went unbeaten over a decade after few beers two decades 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 HH 💙 HMS 🇬🇧
@@aaronsmith5056 dream on mate, read your old skool in shed end forum, seems like WEST HAM took the shed every season says one another says the shed would all sing if your all going WEST HAM clap your hands but come weekend they all made excuses like no money gotta work or some bollocks, fact chelsea never came to upton park, 80,s was my time old Southbank next to away fans & all you had was the end section next to police box, small numbers, i know an old skool chels in his late 50,s & i asked him who was the best without hesitation he said WEST HAM, they was very well organised, Stamford bridge was my first ever away game with older brother around the age of 13, whenever i went in my teens i always saw us attack the shed ⚒
I'm talking from experience, not what I've heard others talking about. Yes, West ham were a top firm but in London they were not the top firm. Ask any firm who always turned up and its Chelsea, when we are good nobody remembers , when we are bad nobody forgets cfchh
I was a kid standing in the shed at that Chelsea vs Boro game. We won the game, but it was a two legger and we lost overall, which meant we were relegated. Towards the final whistle I noticed a lot of fans going forward down the steps and by the time the ref blew his whistle they were out on the pitch. I started to make my way forward as well - I wanted to make plain my disgust and anger too but just as I was getting onto the pitch police horses charged from the right side of the shed. I thought better of it - made my way back up to the stand and joined in the chorus in letting boro fans what we thought of them, while urging our fans on. It was probably all over in less than 10 minutes. Not really much violence, but the media really ran with the story. I kind of regret not stepping out onto the pitch since I never got the chance of doing so since then. Oh well.
@@oldschoolfootball It was a different time back then. Then came all seat stadiums, talk of electric fences, temporary closure of Stamford Bridge to fans which was the immediate aftermath of that game. Thanks for your work on the channel. Just an idea - you might want to see if there is anything you can find about the influence of E on fans / hooligans in the 90s. A few books have been written on the subject and I know from personal experience from some of the lads who I was mates with (who were on the fringes of the gangs) did E, instead of going out to join fights.
It should recall and tell the story of 1985 when chelsea stopped off in bishop auckland before the match and got totally ironed out by the bishop lads in the mitre pub and roberts amusement arcade....
did you go the night game home to chelsea think it was 77-78 season ? chelsea total support was about 200 and it kicked off in there part of the southbank too
@@johngoddard4459 SB was unsegregated back then there was no Chelsea part... WHU were lethal on the SB on those days and only Spurs would take it to WHU in those days in particular Sammy Skives
At 7:30 In 1978 I was a Wolves fan in the North Bank when Chelseas worst switched ends as all the gates were opened as normal to let out fans wanting to leave early. They came into our non-hooligan end causing a panic and a pitch invasion. To this day I hold a massive grudge against Chelsea, whoever they're playing I will support their opposition even foreign clubs. When I meet someone my age group who I find to be a Chelsea fan I will be less than friendly with them.
Headhunters weren’t a thing in the 70s, it would have been the North Stand boys. Racism wasn’t an issue at the Bridge until the late 70s. More homework needed. As to Tottenham away in 75, Chelsea supporters were kicked all over the pitch. I saw it all from the Paxton Road end, not a nice day.
He kept on saying one thousand and seventy seven wolves or Bristol fans attacked by Chelsea when that was the year it happened,ie 1977 or 1978, bit misleading
As I remember the so called 'Chelsea Head Hunters' got a brutal kicking at WHL Tottenham in 1975. I was there and see the lot including the pitch invasion and what took place in the Paxton Road end and in the High Road after the match that Spurs won 2:0. Yet again in 1978 the 'Chelsea Head Hunters' got a serious kicking in the Tottenham High Road with several 'Rent Boys' taken away in a stream of ambulances. Tottenham had some fans with serious mental issues who supervised the Paxton Road end and who were seriously violent and even the 'Old Bill' got kicked in on many occasions. 1970s and 1980s were the days when serious crowd disorder was the norm at football matches.
Spot on a result for Tottenham was judged by how many opposition fans who we battered not by how many bottles we threw and run. Around this time our main rivals were WHU and ManU not rentboys who we considered a joke...their top boys Eccles Babbs were spanked by Tottenham singers on Park Lane and Tottenham Hale in 78.
If you were around in the 70s you’d know that the term Headhunters was at least a decade away. Only mobs with names that I remember are the Red Army and Westham’s Mile End Mob.
@@Oldgit60 I was most definitely around in the 1970s and 1980s. I witnessed some of the most shocking football violence over two decades. Some of the lads I was in with did time in prison several times over and it was the norm back then. Serious violent crowd disorder was normal in London. I witnessed Manchester United clash with Leeds Utd and Liverpool in and around Old Trafford back in the 1970s and that got nasty.
Sunderland away semi final I travelled up in a friends car before game hundreds of Sunderland fans were attacking any Chelsea fans they came across, after the game when we together we ran Sunderland, the home leg we smashed sunderland ,Leeds away same year I got time for another battle,Chelsea till I die
Sunderland done Chelsea on kings rd 40 Sunderland coaches got turned away never made game. Chelsea came across pitch from main stand not shed only throwing objects didn't come near fence. Up at Sunderland Chelsea ran some fans but the vaux boys stood firm FACT
You are joking u cowards were beating old men and young families up in Sunderland, u did run the police I give you that but afterwards was our time off course you all went home when the real Chelsea fighters turned up 40 coaches all right remeber after the game spread eagle on the embankment near vauxhall bridge all in the road pavement, the Geordie are 100 times more up for it , be lucky fella
That along with Bradford and the kid who was killed by a falling wall at St Andrews we’re the reasons I started playing on Saturdays for about 2 years instead of watching Chelsea , mid to late 80s we’re as bad as it got.
@@Oldgit60 modern day fans either don't remember the 80s or choose to forget. Hooliganism kept fans away from games. All clubs had low crowds and only those prepared to fight went to away games. I'm too old for that shit now and if we had those times again I'd stop going to games 😂
Bolton was never that hard to take ,in 80 s on boxing day at burnden park one of our top lads tom troupe ,who was doing doors age 16 broke the segregation gate ,into Bolton end we all steamed in they scattered lol .
That's something too be proud of isn't it.Know I'll back down from no one but football hooligans are just dickheads bu your comment that probably includes you.
@@redflag8970 fair play but us blackpool fc went toe to toe with em ,home and away and I was at 5 fairly big offs one was before that boxing day match in around 1984 by the way kick off at 11 am lol ,that's what category this match was at ,and true to form we went over in 4 vans 3 cars parked up near the end ,of Manny road outside some maisonettes all good at 830 am boxing day morning ,even then a good few were waiting for us near traffic lights Manny Rd ,was all silent till a few come round corner at the lights ,then about 50 of us steamed in to about 100 Bolton it was going well ,till police turned up I got bitten on back of my leg ,didn't realise it needed stitches till next day cos been on the piss before and after match ,and then like I said we later got in there end and had a go in the ground ,and then after the match they'd seen an hire van were we parked ,from blackpool so was waiting to jump us once we got back to our vans ,guess what we got lucky cos some police spotted which way we was walking and followed us ,if they hadn't it would of been bad looked to be around 300 and us 50 ,but after a long day at it can't remember the score lol ,we for once we're ok with a bit of police protection outnumbered at least 3 to 1 then gone .
@@redflag8970 obviously maybe you don't know but early 80 s on our kop Bloomfield road ,a match with bowton we lost a lad Kevin Olson first to die at a match stabbed in one of many ,fighting all over the kop between us I was there but only around 15 ,I'd seen some rows before then with villa and prescum but this was talking hundreds going at it ,but nevertheless we lost Kevin and for many years feelings ran high with us we were always after them ,one night match we had em at old coliseum bus station ,couple of coaches came in they ended up running away mainly even into hotels and bed and breakfast places ,to escape a beating ,trust me we were a handfull back then endless number of top lads ,always up for it and don't forget Bolton has a much bigger population than us .
Promotion battle on TV live on a Friday night 1984 ?...any City fan will tell you....they never saw a firm like it....the coaches were parking up wherever they could.
@@chelseachelseaboy Watched that game on live TV.All thru the game the chant was we'll be there at WHL. First time I heard you lot showing hatred for us Off course when you did come to WHL that season you were run everywhere
@@britishqueen94 First time you knew about it? The trouble had been going on back to the 60's with songs about the '67 tear up with your Park Lane mob. And we didn't come to WHL 'that season' as both us and City were in the Second Division. Personally never run at WHL. It was a little 'iffy' in the 70's but in the 80's onwards, there were a lot more dicey away matches up North. You may have witnessed the odd small skirmish but missed us running a whole load of you behind the Shelf after the match early in the 85/86 season. Here's how un-intimidating WHL was back then. In 89/90, Spurs were remodelling the Easst Stand so the capacity was hugely slashed. There was no away allocation. But loads of Chelsea turned up there early and were trying all sorts to get tickets. A few hundred did get in, including the press box. But Spurs and plod were already wary of the situation. Spurs actually laid on a convoy of coaches, parked in Paxton Lane, to ferry all us without tickets to Wembley Arena where there was a beam-back. They didn't even charge us for the transport. 8-)
@@chelseacharger Where did Spurs always wait for you after the match? Sports centre on the High Rd or Vicarage Rd ? You said Chelsea run Spurs outside the Shelf and then went onto vicarage Rd where you nearly had a row with another Chelsea firm. My question for you is were both the Chelsea firms going towards Tottenham High Rd where the Tottenham firm was waiting for you or were you heading in the opposite direction avoiding the High Rd? By your own admission you were avoiding the danger zone. Why would you leave via a quiet St , vicarage road rather than the High Rd.? Besides your mob was trapped in the Paxton Rd seats a few of them got a severe beating.Was all the Chelsea unaware your boys were trapped thus no one came to their aid?
@@chelseacharger As you know I left 87, your showing in 85 was your best showing at WHL simply because you didn't hide like usual or were elusive....your C18 from Greenford were on show but you got run.... there were 111 arrests that day of which bar 5 the rest were Spurs so you can judge who were the aggressors ....despite all the hot air from both sides only a couple of punches were exchanged
@@neilhumphrey4197 used drink in that Yuppie Bar, JJ Beans on the King's Rd...arrogant prick that manager, I heard one of yours bit his ear off, was a half caste fella from Croydon, so his picture in the papers
@@johnb9624 who said anything about being proud the reason I was there is because we were waiting for the coaches to turn up I I don't understand why harry the bloke who done it it was a stupid thing to do so get your facts right mate
@@johnb9624 Rentboys always imply that because they are located in the fashionable part of London they were part of that fashionable scene. That is a load of shit In the 80s Yuppies started to take over Central London. They looked down on Chelsea fans as tramps and applied a Class apartheid. Chelsea fans were barred from the Yuppie bars. JJ Beans was a Yuppie Bar and no doubt the Manager would have wanted the rentboys out hence the assualt
Thanks for your honesty, we had plenty of rows with the scousers.....no yid would be stupid as to claim we took the Kop only rentboys would claim such stupidity.
Total fiction about Chelsea fans taking The Kop in 1973. Don't recall Chelsea ever once showing up in any numbers at Anfield during the 1970s. PS. For the record, Liverpool won that game 1-0 with a Kevin Keegan goal.
@@britishqueen94 Yeah - remember Spurs bringing a crew to Anfield in 1975. First time I'd ever seen a mob from London turn up in any numbers. Chelsea were nothing in those days.
@@johnholmes8178 75 we didn't fare well but in 78 ( our 7 nil ) we gave a good account of ourselves outside .....at Goodison we first turned up 78/9 and our best showing there was 83 in the cup Both the Merseyside clubs in their City were rated by us... In those days both of yous were united
@@johnholmes8178 Every London has given the rentboys a severe hiding,. ...I heard you lot tore them a new one at A field 77? Why the verbal rivalry (because rentboys are all mouth they wouldn't fight you or anyone) with the Rentboys and you?
Like the rest of them, they were all part of life's losers. Total wasters who just went around fighting with other wasters. Luckily, Chelsea have gone above and beyond to rid the club of this element. Its different now and Chelsea is a proper club on and off the pitch.
Why do all you people go on about mariner hes a fat mug also I was friendly with a good face at millwall you might know him is name is tiny it's TRUE you have always done better against us but read what tiny said also I've been there at the old ground and we have done ok
If your talking about Victoria station when west ham melts making television program with BBC or itv thought they could ambush us as we arrived in Victoria so we all met up at Westminster tube and walked to Victoria station and ran u idiots all over the manor
Thewelwyn Yes I was at that game as well, one Millwall supporter ran the length of the field and jumped into the Chelsea end, which signalled a Lions stampede, police on horses were all over the pitch, it was horrendous
That Millwall fan who ran the length of the pitch was sure game, only problem was he realised no one was behind him & lost his bottle 5 yards from the MHL, I was in the West Stand thinking this is not going to end well for him…. & it didn’t 🥊🥊, PS, Can remember it like yesterday!
@@nealeleonard2133 Years of experience showed me the real fighters remained anonymous not drawing attention to themselves from OB, then outside would severely hurt people...wall numpties running on the pitch didn't rate them nor the Chelsea idiots with their pitch invasions, just attention seekers with no actual violence
Can a Rentboy please explain why a Yid firm based in Richmond in the heart of Rentboy Manor used to regularly batter the Rentboys on their home turf ,but NEVER faced any retaliation from the rentboys ?
You’re talking complete crap about richmond regularly doing us 😂 They done us once at New Malden. This headhunter name didnt exist in the 70s & it was only one lot at cfc who used it. Lot i went with never ever used it West ham taking shed lol Seen them run out of shed few times but then wham never admit to getting done ever 81 valentines day at wham not good for wham 85 at parsonsgreen As for fucking scousers there not worth a toss everton much better
@@jamieoliver3262 Thanks for your honesty about being clueless... Perhaps you can explain why a disabled Blackman was Chelsea's only competent fighter? Is this why a bunch of white supremacists revered Babbs as their leader?
Where did you hear that load of bollocks?let me guess a yid who wasn't actually there but heard the story from another yid who heard it of a mate who doesn't lie
biggest laugh of the story Chelsea took 3 ends of Maine rd really they didn't take the kippax you're deluded I'm a utd fan that would never have happened
