The Smashing Pumpkins - Return of the Gish Guitar 

Despite all my rage billy is best

I got my billy back billy back billy back......chiiillllllliiiii'sssss billy back ribs

Hahahaha

Billy circa Siamese Dream at the Grind in Phoenix - "Our slow songs are NOT a chance for you to all stand there and talk!!" Me - "No, but they're a great chance to go to the bathroom!!" As i turned to go run to the restroom, and heard the whole crowd laugh, i watched as Billy Corgan stared daggers at me. ;) When i came running back right when they started Siva, he still gave me the ol' stink eye. Those WERE the days man. God bless ya Bill!

It’s like Andy and Woody

Yeah

Me too!! I thought it would never happen...although billy doesnt need james to make an epic pumpkins album james can definitely make it better and more epic with being in the mix

Thor Carlton but without D'arcy though 😣😣😟😔

@@rainblaze. that's what she gets for years of shit talking Billy

Me too!

At least say HBO, Netflix will make a documentary about a slight gust of wind.

Netflix is a joke. He wouldn't do it.

@@thinkforyourself828 You mean the festival?

A small series or perhaps a single doc including others like Joe Perry and Slash having one of his Gibsons.

I always see Leokimvideo on music videos and stuff like that which I enjoy. It’s funny because I used to watch his Thomas the tank videos from when I was a kid. Small world I guess

from what i read he was totally wanting her to return but warned her about the scrutiny people would have on her after not seeing her for many yrs. im guessing shes aged liked they all have, maybe put on weight, and he wanted her to be ok with being in the spotlight and having negative attention on her from fans who only know the darcy from the 90s and how she looks now, 20 something yrs after the image they have in their memories.

@@starfox1 I can see that. After leaving the bad she got a lot of plastic surgery and she looks... different.

This comment was beautifully crafted! 🤘🏻

Holy lol

When Melvoin and Chamberlin overdosed... I thought Smashing Pumpkins were done.... Zeitgeist was a reboot for the band, I went their promo concert and a University Student died crowd surfing. Billy talked to the crowd after the concert, and eventually had to cancel several concerts. Shit Luck.

A few weeks can go by fast, huh?

so... portland, or? 😂

Jeans and t shirts magically disappeared after the 90s ended

Sounds like what I was doing before Covid hit. And will do again!

im with ya. at least we have the music of those days to help us relive that time...

Ha. Right?

lol

Hahahaha. I can hear a luthier sanding away right now

Right look what ibanez did with the new replica jem for Vai

hahaha!! I used to own an Eddie Bumble B guitar too. (for real, never could prove it, got stolen)

Indeed. If you watch the full video he talks about how he searched hundreds of others guitars off the same year model and none had the exact sound. Every guitar is different. Sometimes it’s not the most expensive guitar that makes the right sound. In fact it hardly ever is lol

Haha, hard out. The dude could have guitars from my wildest dream. Strange though. My favourite is a 89 Samick LP, probably worth $100.

@@neonflowersofficial definitely agree, and somtimes its very subtle, but you would definitely be able to tell those minute differences

allrain...I could not agree more!

Mid-70's Strats are good strats. The 'bad' ones are from 1979 to around 1981,. I have a 1979 Strat.It has aged wonderfully, not bad at all , heavy in weight but not bad. Even The Edge used one on all the great early U2 albums. Each guitar is different anyway.

It was quite a sound. I remember thinking I've never heard a guitar sound like this.

I wonder if he'll use it on a future album or while they play on stage.

especiall when he played Rhinoceros

Seriously. I've been sitting here smiling like a fool the whole time and I'm not Even a smashing pumpkins fan!

Me too, really striking...I would love a copy of the Gish stems... just Billy's guitar would be fine for starters...could listen to it in isolation and probably enjoy it almost as much as the finished record

Lmao love that ....comment gold

Nice

and you know you're never sure but you're sure you could be right

little different context...but a good one! lol

Despite all my rage I am still just a strat in a case

That's no shit.

No doubt. I'm a metal fan but Smashing Pumpkins has been in my musical roots as a musician.

Yeah. I wish I could say the same about when I was growing up but sadly that's not the case. I recently got introduced to their music by a close friend. And I am loving it. Welp better late than never

Alien Schumer raised my hand!! Me too

@@LightYagami-wt1jw congratulations Sweetie 💖 💖 welcome to the club! 🤘✊💖

I'm with you

I prefer him melancholy

Jerry Cantrell graffiti guitar

Miguel Melchior Same with drums nowadays.

Heatwaves you say that like his band was good

lateralustrated they were good,very good.

you mean a vast majority of bullshit modern music

Hold on mate

K

I think I have that same guitar - red Strat knockoff from the Sears catalog. Got it when I was about 14, played with various "garage bands" consisting of whatever high school/college friends actually knew how to play an instrument. We would basically just sit around in someone's bedroom, or basement, and try to figure out how to play a few songs together and not sound like complete crap. I haven't played that damn guitar in about 22 years, but I still know where it is, and it would be an absolute gut punch to lose it. It's hard to describe why certain physical objects hold so much meaning. It doesn't make any sense... just like when Billy says, "it's just a piece of wood and some wires, but it means so much more to me". I hope you get your guitar back someday.

If you reported it, pawn shops always check police records to see if items are stolen. Hope you get it back someday

Sorry to hear that, hope it returns to you!! Peace

Siamese dream is my favorite album of all time

@@bloodboiling3951 it’s an AMAZING record. Sonically joyous and tragic. A roller coaster of emotions in that album of pain, loss, anger, and love.

Got into the Pumpkins with Gish but Mellon Collie is my favorite album by far.

The raw energy and angst of GISH makes it my favorite. Best is a subjective term.

@@doctorsteveb4906 Gish is my favorite. Only tour I saw them on.

Radiohead were at their peak in the 90's.

@@yutehube7633 no they werent

The 60's, 70s and 80s were hotbeds of insane creativity of biblical proportions where some of it is still way ahead of it's time. 90s artists grew up with all of that swirling around them and they channeled it into their work.

@@leonl1559 kid A, OK computer, Pablo Honey..... All came out in the 90s... They were DEFINITELY at their peak in the 90s very early 00s

Mike Justice I like how you didn’t mention The Bends, a vastly superior album to Pablo Honey

Eduardo Sturla Ferrer no one can love you or what you do if you don’t yourself

Man, he really is. I hadn’t listened to any interviews by him since probably 1997 or so until last night. RU-vid suggested his Rohan interview (and then countless other recent interviews after) and his clarity of thought and memory is impressive. I haven’t listened to early interviews but time has given him some immense wisdom.

Haha he’s a nerdy fan of himself. I love how technical he is and i also hate how technical he is at the same time. 🎸⚡️✨

I stopped the video at that (came back to it later thou ).

No kidding, hearing Drown at the end really hit home. Bloody great to see it back in his hands!

Way back, whilst reading N64 magazines? Me too my friend, me too.

Ben Williams those were the days 👍

@@henrythegreatamerican8136 It was nice to see him being less weird/arrogant. I find if anyone else is featured in an interview he just talks right over them too. That's not cool- however Rock 'n' Roll you are!

Josh Gimblett it’s always funny when you come across other channels in the comments of other peoples videos 😂

Bryan Conner Like the ring: "It's heard it's master's call"

Did James actually lay down parts on Gish? I'm under the impression that Billy played most of the actual recorded parts on the album

My only successful band built its entire sound around the mix between my layers of Strat w a humbucker and the other guitarists Les Paul tapestry--- The mix we fell in love with listening to SP....even if it took a decade to realize where we had stolen it..... This whole video is super Cathartic and its not even my guitar......must be the music.....

@@michaelgraham9774 Billy and Butch have both talked about Billy using James’ guitar for layering parts on Gish.

Periphery is a modern metal band with a huge influence and following. They do this too, single/split coil tones atop humbucker crunch.

@Paul John Who cares? I mean maybe it's hard to ever go back, but it's really fun working with people that you have some level of friendship with. I'll bet he takes that over any of the replacement pumpkins.

"Friends"

too bad darcy can't clean her act up

Just came here from that Manson, Limp Bizkit, & Corgan video. Where they were all chill w/ each other. Random but I hate it when ppl just start making random, superficial comments about artists. Maybe it's a bit sexist, I'd expect it more from males. But it's like no, females do this too. In relation to opposite sex's. But sometimes I'll be looking at comments like 🤔 I mean, r u trying to be a groupie or what? Bc I don't get the purpose or point. Idrgaf what artists look like, I mainly only care about the message. Or if it puts me in good spirits. How somebody looks is irrevelant. I mean, I'm sure looks help. But then again that lost prophets guy is physically handsome... The f? I feel like looks r just a bonus. But it's not rare or anything, idk. I'm just too busy trying to look beyond that sh. Not that I'm big on any of those bands either but 🤷 Its not like I ever claim to be great at ass kissing... Ill comment that smashing pumpkins takes lead tho. Even tho I know like this many songs by them 👌😁

@@ahhwe-any7434 Shut up.

Yeah man! Dreams do come true! Never in a million years did I think Billy and James would bury the hatchet

PJ sucks

That sounds like a fuckin dope concert

I saw that tour when they came to DeKalb IL.

@@MrJackal43 no you

Caught the same tour in Burlington VT. One of my friends went up to the PJ guys on the bleachers after their set to have them sign a bootleg t-shirt. They all signed it anyway and I overheard the comment that it was the first bootleg Tshirt they had ever seen before of their band. In my friend's defense, he was 13 and had no idea what a bootleg t-shirt even was. He though it meant "cool" or "rare".

That guitar came with a bag of Pepperidge farm cookies.

@@jmag579 pepperidge remebers

Long hair in fact

yeah he admitted defeat to losing his hair really early..

Lol!!!

Same!

Exactly!

Fuck me dead there it is

all i could think was maury saying ‘the lie detectors determined that was a lie’

It's ok to change styles while writing. Maybe if you stay back in the 90s you'll be happier. The rest of us will move on

@@cdreyes81 i don't have a problem with them recording synth pop (even though their newest album kinda sucked), i mean my favorite band is animal collective and they're overwhelmingly electronic, i just think it's funny billy called it a "guitar record" when it ended up not being one. stop being a weird dick

WOW I LOVE WEEZER AND THATS SO COOL

Its like that riff was meant for THAT guitar. Soon as he played a riff on it, I knew I had heard that axe before.

Remember listening to this song while watching a lightning storm....summer 1995..I was 17

Loving those riffs off Rhinoceros, Siva and I Am One!!!!!

Trey Myles Cherub Rock too and Today!

Drown, my favorite song!

You look miserable.

@@misterj9619 👈 found the white knight beta orbiter

My sentiments, exactly! :-)

Mine too, so much. I teared up for him. What a beautiful reunion.

Word for word, Exactly my comment thanks for re-writing it ,thanks Astrid

Just Someguy seriously! Good idea! Also in the case of course

thanks for the idea

Waste of money. A $10,000 gps tracking system loses satellite data when going under a tree.

that wouldn't have worked because it was in some guy's basement

dude just made a joke. no need to explain why it wouldn't actually be a practical thing to do.

Siamese Dream was my first CD. That and the No Alternative compilation. Best memories. 😌

drown almost sounds like a love song about this guitar . "no matter where you are ..." "all of those yesterdaze --- coming around." drown in thee guitar sound !

it's almost too much

Drown is how I ended up in love with them. I heard it on the radio and drove around Dallas all day buying everything by them I could find. Finally found it on the Reality Bites soundtrack but by then I'd listened to everything else...and the rest, as they say, is history. My god their music was a lifeline for me during the insanity of my 20's. And it all started with that one song. "No matter where you are I can still hear you when you dream You traveled very far You traveled far, like a star And you are..."

@@christysosmitty4534 love your story and love the song. For me Drown wasn't the first but it was one of my favorites.

Hazy Daze - same for me! I finally found it on the Singles soundtrack.

i think their newer sound is good too. not the same as before, but change is ok sometimes

He was speaking about the album they are recording now when he said guitar driven.

And it was amazing. And more to come.

My thoughts exactly!!!

I think he means the volume 2 of SAOSB

cdreyes81 right

Yea that makes this next album, got me thinking its hopefully gonna be like gish and siamese dream had a baby

He's said that about every recent album, guitars guitars guitars, it's never the layered wall of sound style we all crave though

IYTS MY SONG BRAIN HAKE EEEE

Quasar

Brother I hear you!! Full body chills & heart feeling like I'm falling in love! What an impact SP has had on our gen. ♥️

Fucking right on man. I was moving around alot in my early 20's and pawned a Jackson original and a '74 Les Paul. The Paul I replaced later and sounds the same but that Jackson - FUCK!! I CANT SEEM TO FIND ANOTHER ONE WITH THE PLAYABILITY, FEEL, SMELL, WHATEVER! And I dont have Billy money but if I ever found it again I'd definitely pay the owner WAY more than it's worth for it back!!

Well, I cried a little. It's too exciting!

Seems like you were more moved by this than Billy himself. He barely seems excited about it!

@uni blab what lmao

Drown is a really good song. I don’t know why it didn’t make the album. Some deluxe versions of Gish have it as a bonus track.

It wasn't recorded until 1992 which was after Gish came out.

@@blonkeddleharvey2308 I dug up the wiki on Drown. It was recorded after Gish was originally released, but Drown was included on the 2011 re-release version of Gish. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drown_(The_Smashing_Pumpkins_song)

It is on the Singles soundtrack though.

I bet it was definitely written on it though

It's completely normal, but it's all about your pick attack. The lighter, the less noise. Some people are just heavy handed... But it's normal.

🤘😂 #metoo

It was great to hear those old riffs again.

We're it not for my severe bells palsy I would have as well

Wish he could find D'Arcy again

corey fisher Man I remember the I-Beam! Those late 80’s-early 90’s were such a fertile time for music in the Bay Area. I remember Primus playing at the Nightbreak.

Lucky.

Word, that takes an old man back 25 years to young man days...

I just left a message saying a similar thing. Goosebumps indeed!

Youth is less about age and is more a state of mind. And it seems like the boys have recaptured some of that youthful spirit. Thankfully, the new album really does have some of that old Pumpkins magic.

Yeah they certainly seem more like the old Pumpkins again.

The guitar sounds on Vaseline by Stone Temple Pilots were set up for them by Frank Zappa and Billy Corgan. Not to be underestimated in my opinion, more like iconic.

How is he underrated? He isn't Hendrix but certainly not underrated.

Thank God

do you know where i can find any videos from that show

@@tobas9515 People didn't have video cameras in their pockets back then. I wish I had video of a band I toured with for a couple years back in the early 1980s but almost nobody had a video camera then (and if they did they weren't taking it into pubs and clubs).

can you please tell me the name of the song? I m getting crazy trying to find it :)

@@olgamondejar3080 that song's called "Drown"

thanks @@Windchill512

@@nickkuhl3426 singles soundtrack

@@nickkuhl3426 Be sure to listen to the full 8 minute version. The ending is the best part.

Seriously shitty thing to do, but even worse, there's always the chance someone had no idea what they were stealing, and sold it for next to nothing, which would piss me off even more! Especially because some instruments are literally irreplaceable, you can't put a price on that exact instrument, no matter how common!

I'm ashamed it happened at one of my most beloved local venues

my college roommate had his violin stolen out of locked storage at the school. It was a family heirloom passed down through at least a couple generations and was worth a couple hundred thousand dollars. Police get involved, nothing. More than 10-years later he is scrolling through instrument auctions and notices a violin up for auction through Christies; he thought it was his. Anyway, they go back and forth verifying that he was the rightful owner. He ended up both getting the violin back, and catching the thief in the process. It was a visiting professor and it apparently wasn't the only school he had done this at; the same guy my roommate had suspected from day one.

wow, a professor@@jamesoxford4260

@@jamesoxford4260 I find that hard to believe but then again I don't know you. Why would your roommate even take a chance at using/leaving that at school knowing what the value is and where it came from even if it's in locked storage? Was it a stradivarius?

Or a new friend - I don't think I heard Drown when it came out, but that was an excellent way to end the video.

Brings back some thing great

no, it will a be a fucking Squire pos tribute

Chris T and they'll make a limited run of 550 thousand!!

Nah Billy said fender was horrible to work with. I played his signature strat a couple times and it was a really good guitar though

@Cas van der Wal well you convinced me to STFU . Good game.

@@basballer182 It is. I have one. Its nothing flashy but all the parts are solid. Its like a USA Strat but the finish will naturally relic itself quicker.

Texocracy sooo true

You mean Fender Custom Shop scam.

@@ryanstark2350 That, too.

Yep... they can smell the $$$...

@@eliotmccann2589 For a Fender get a G&L although I don't think all Fenders are that bad. However, for Gibson, definitely buy a Heritage. Those are made in the original Gibson factory. I have two and they are superb. There are no custom shop or master build Heritages. They are all build to the same standard.

No chance... considering BC left Fender on not-so good terms.