0:00 Reel Around The Fountain 5:58 You've Got Everything Now 10:14 Miserable Lie 14:53 Pretty Girls Make Graves 18:32 Accept Yourself 22:36 Hand in Glove 25:57 What Difference Does it Make? 29:58 I Don't Owe You Anything 34:24 Suffer Little Children 40:04 Wonderful Woman 43:23 These Things Take Time 46:02 Handsome Devil 48:56 Reel Around The Fountain 55:03 You've Got Everything Now 59:39 Miserable Lie 1:04:21 Accept Yourself 1:08:28 The Hand That Rocks The Cradle 1:13:45 Hand in Glove 1:17:10 What Difference Does it Make? 1:21:09 I Don't Owe You Anything 1:25:39 Suffer Little Children 1:30:42 Jeane 1:33:50 Wonderful Woman 1:37:11 Handsome Devil 1:40:06 Jeane 1:42:56 What Difference Does it Make?
I'm a Guitarist for my band in school and today the Drumming teacher overheard me playing What Difference..? and we ended up getting into an interesting conversation about The Smiths. Turns out, he is in a band and I can't remember exact details but he is good friends with Troy Tate.
Whatever happened to Troy Tate? An Essential part of the excellent Teardrops LP Wilder, the Smiths production debacle, 2 half decent solo albums & then a near-Fashion experience & then...nothing...a big shame.
🎵 I find that with all of Morrisseys Music no matter which bands he's worked with throughout the years especially with the combination of Jesse Boz Gustavo Mando or Soloman & Matt absolutely sheer brilliance 🎶
Damn small world lmao. Its been 2 years since I left the keyakizaka fandom and I still come across you in the comments every few months of the most random videos.
its funny I should give my heart to this band... I've never been an unhappy person - quite the contrary.I've always found that no relationship has satisfied me, and I still see the intrinsic loneliness of all humanity despite my happy nature. I find beauty in it with this band
I get your connection. The smiths for inspired a generation or 2.The uniqueness, style, and differentness makes them special ♥️. They have filled many a void in my life back in 80s and even today. The Belfast poet Andrew Beattie.
Listening to this for over 35 years, it only seems more a work of genius the older I get. At 18 it was terrifying and mindblowing. In my 50s, I'm just awed. Endlessly funny, sad, and profound.
let me guess, "15 minutes with you, well i wouldn't say no". that's the only plausible line haha, because a line like "people see no worth in you but i do" would seem like a partial insult lmao
I remember getting a plastic bin liner, putting all of my smiths records, posters etc into it and putting it into the attic (30 years later its still there) I remember thinking: Im finally free, and I was. But then you listen 20 or 30 years later and it has new meaning and depth and it pulls you back in. This time, I don't mind because I've loved, had a family, travelled, worked, I have a buffer against its bitter melancholy
Nice comment. Yes I don't think I would have appreciated the smiths in my teenage years for some reason. I needed to be a man before I could really listen, and love
Happy for you, fellow Smiths fan. I appreciate your post; thanks for sharing. I personally haven't gone back to listen until right now, bc Morrissey's melancholic lyrics and sentiment are met with a moment in time for me that stood still. Tbh, it actually came to a screeching halt, because of the devastating reality of a very close friend of mine (who introduced me to the band bc he knew I'd totally identify with them, esp the song "accept yourself") who was terrified to be single in the 80's after his bf of 7yrs - since Jr High School - broke up with him. I was supportive and he'd visit me in college. I listened for hours and did my best to lift his spirits. We were making progress, but I also felt guilty bc I fell in love for the first time and he'd tell me "that's easy for you to say, you've got someone" 🤔 I let him know how important our friendship was to me. Then I visited home a week later and in came the call at my parents house (no cell phones then, only landlines) from his cousin who I worked with at the record store in H.S. I got up from the dinner table to take the phone. She was in a panic and crying. "Johnny shot himself!" I was in shock. Immediately I asked, "How is he?" She said "He's dead." Right then, I couldn't hear anyone at the dinner table 3 ft away. Those words echoed in my brain. Over and over and over and over. "He's dead." "He's dead." "He's dead."
@@mgjr249 wow, that's a very intense experience, I can see why you wouldn't want to revisit that. I hope his family have recovered. what a terrible ordeal for them, and for you.
To the beginning comment, I quit the smiths for years after 1985- early 90’s. Last few years I’ve returned and the most interesting thing to me is Morrissey lyrics speak to me now as a 60 year as they did whe in my 20’s
I am sick and I am dull And I am plain How dearly I'd love to get carried away Oh, but dreams have a knack of just not coming true And time is against me now...oh
Have always enjoyed it a lot and bought "I started something..." single because of Troy Tate B-side (Pretty girls... of course) . This is recording and Pablo Cuckoo Tape are kind of alternate reality. The small melodic post-punk band signed in obscure label and putting out some uncharted singles treasured by selected few...
This was the first version of their debut album, using producer Troy Tate instead of eventual producer John Porter. BOTH producers did a lousy job, but Porter's is definitely better than this version. In Porter's defense, he didn't have the budget to work with that Tate had. At any rate, the best studio versions of these songs were actually made at the BBC and you can hear them on the album Hatful of Hollow.
@@TheCopeland45 i feel like the almost lo-fi quality adds to the atmosphere of a lot of the tracks, and like Suffer Little Children sounds incredible as a Tate session - the John Peel sessions are a lot better quality tho ngl
They glide above the clouds whereas most are buried amongst the rubble forgotten forevermore. The smiths oozed compassion delicate woven amidst poignant words.The Belfast poet Andrew Beattie.
@Read Father Seraphim Rose How? Moz only writes lyrics, he can't even compose music. Kurt wrote both his music and lyrics and could play guitar. Moz can't even play an instrument. How is he more talented than Cobain?
@Read Father Seraphim Rose You're comparing their personality, not their talent. "Senseless words and basic chords". Wow, you must hate punk rock. I guess you think Dream Theater is the best band ever. (I don't think his lyrics are senseless by the way.) And that "heroin induced mumbling" helped a lot of people. Just not you.
@Read Father Seraphim Rose Morrissey would be destitute on the street if it wasn't for Johnny Marr. Cobain was his own Morrissey and Marr. He composed music, wrote lyrics, played guitar and sang. (He was also a visual artist). Morrisey only writes lyrics and sings.
@Read Father Seraphim Rose I believe Cobain wrote lyrics that understood human nature as well. I disagree with the idea of Nirvana not existing without The Smiths. But here's the thing: The difference between you and me is that you hate Cobain and love Moz. I love both Cobain and Moz. You hate punk rock, I love it. I'm assuming you're a religious person (I respect that), I am not. So we have completely different points of view and it's useless for us to argue. No need to get pissed at eachother. Agree to disagree. Have a good day.
They were probably right to re-do the sessions for the album, as they were clearly not disciplined enough to make the classic that would end up being their first album, but these are great versions that capture the band at their most innocent and perhaps honest time. They knew they would do fairly well in the UK, but they surely couldn't foresee the worldwide impact they would have. This is just them doing what they wanted to do.
Just my opinion but I think all the versions were good, each in their own way. It's hard to put into words but The Smiths have a way of transporting you to a better place no matter who the producer was. It's just pretty darn next to impossible to ruin something this great.
0:00 Reel Around The Fountain 5:47...When I remove phone on left ear, I'm taking a bath. Not because it is a rainy day (torrential). So this LP today saves me time & trouble. I could devote more time watching You Tube.
yes morrissey has done and said very unfavorable things, but his choices should not weigh down the power that all of the band creates in a studio. it’s magical. i’m only a teenager and this music has such a profound effect on me. looking forward to listening to the smiths for years, they never get old to me
Also what Morrissey says constantly gets taken out of context by people who have been out to get him since the Smiths began! He has said some questionable things but I have never heard a good argument for him being 'far right' or 'racist' which are the usual tropes that people who just read news headlines resort to. Not to mention, this band changed music and are truly one of the greats!
Been trying to find long playlists to play at work and this calms me down so much! Work is stressful and even though they tell me I’m not supposed to be listening to music (it’s a minimum wage job moving shoes around. I can still hear with the other ear lmao) it makes the day go by that much faster. Thanks!
Yep. Why they didn’t release this version of the album I’ll never know. It’s superior for many reasons imo. Only thing missing is This Charming Man, but my cd copy of the debut doesn’t have it either.
Thank you...No matter what time or place I AM always getting a new meaning out of music from the Master -STEVEN PATRICK FRANCIS MORRISSEY, My King👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
im glad they went with the normal beat on the LP version of PGMG, but the Cello was a nice touch, wish that couldve made it! Its weird how much slower they played everything!
Olá nação rokeira estou muito feliz de participar do comentário sobre esta banda maravilhosa que carrego durante 25 anos them ismiths grande abraço fiquem com Deus até 😃🙏
It would be hard to overstate the fierce loyalty of Smiths and Morrissey fans. The musical pecking order for such fans tend to rate the two as separate but equal favorites. Most other artists are categorized generically as a distant, mish mashed amalgam of background noise.
Jamie Stuart That’s because John Porter used MIDI’ed drum patterns on the first album sampled from recordings of Mike Joyce. MJ wasn’t the most techically proficient of drummers at that stage (although he seems to have learned fast), which actually gave the earliest recordings a ramshackle charm. The first album was so sterile as a result. Nothing in their career matches the charm and warmth of the early BBC/😆Troy Tate recordings.
@@jet1519 At a guess, Mike Joyce, who is also rumoured to be the source of the Smiths Demos & Outtakes bootleg that was leaked a few years ago. I'm not sure if they're still available on RU-vid, but recordings of all three Hacienda concerts by the band from 1983 are out there, and in the course of the ten months or so that they cover you can hear how quickly the group improved as musicians, particularly Joyce.
@@markofsaltburn it's a shame these recording are swamped in reverb though. Maybe because of the 80s obsession with it. To my mind (and ears), The Smiths always sound best when recorded as simply as possible, with as few effects and guitar overdubs as possible, and also with the bass way higher in the mix. The Peel sessions come close, as does the Amsterdam 1984 bootleg.
@@InParticularNobody That's an interesting point about the reverb. Now that I listen again, I can hear what you mean. Through that, though, there are some wonderful takes, particularly on Reel Around the Fountain.
@@markofsaltburn - totally agree. It's all fascinating anyway. I just think they suffered by virtue of the fashions of the age. JM's Ric 330, ever so slightly overdriven through a Fender twin (no overdubs, even though he loved piling them on..), Rourke's bass heavily compressed and pushed up in the mix. Joyce as nature intended, and Morrissey with just a whisper of reverb or slap-back delay. That's all it needed.
i mean let's be real, the actual reason he was sacked was because these mixes, while some were good, were not what the band wanted. that much is very obvious lmao
As Johnny Marr said in his book, this recordings really aren't the best take of they could make. The songs sounds much better in the album version. Thank you for posting this!
