The Snyder Cut Changed My Life | Zack Snyder's Justice League 

I thought the title was Sarcastic, but yeah Snyder is an artist

Zacks movies are for adults . And I am not talking about age only , you have to be adult inside as well

Pls do animation fix for Kumo desu

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One of the big things I don't like about hardcore Marvel fans is trying to tell DC this is how they should make comics or movies or TV shows but I love the darker stories in DC comics and movies and old animated shows. I love your video I do you didn't seem like most Marvel fans that just complain about DC comics movies and TV shows just for not being like Marvel I respect your criticism.

True but I feel like aqua man is the least fleshed out in the film but still an improvement from justice league

Snyder cut aqua man is nothing in the aqua man movie tho

eh even in here he does claim that Cyborg is working for the enemy he only starts warming up to him after his father died

@The Predator Not a physical fight, but they were definitely at odds with each other and then never got resolved

@*Zechariah Solomon I meant in his first appearance

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This is autumn's world, we are just living in it.

@@merloaf0332 ❤️true

Summer is the best season

Wasn't he the one who recommended Snyder for MOS?

Yep. Nolan saw something in Snyder, so he recommended him to WB for MOS.

I mean, they are friends, right?

@@diegocamacho6477 yeah they are Nolan and Snyder's wife actually attended the premiere of Josstice League for him and then warned him not to see it

Regarding of what you think of Snyder as a director/writer, he's clearly an amazing guy. Everyone he's ever worked with says as much. You'd never hear anything bad about him as a person. Whedon is the opposite. He may be praised for his professional job, but he's awful to work with.

Ye

Lol

Second (yes, second, the same guy commented two times)

Have my child

Stfu

Was that exclusive to the Snyder cut?

@@irecordwithaphone1856 Yes bro you need to go watch it now lol

You know alot of People hook up Wonder Woman and Batman but to me Diana would be the sister he never had and he doted on her. While Superman was the Brother he never had, sure they disagreed a lot on procedure but in the end they had each others backs. I think that in making the Bat family so large they filled up the spot that the Justice League have in Bruce's heart which is why in modern comics he tends come off as cold to them.

His character arc has dumb inconsistent flaws, still. We're told he made a promise to Superman's grave. Yet, not only have we've never seen it but throughout the movie. We never see that side of his character, instead we get a stoic person who rather looks to be "making the hard choice" of possibly bringing back the man whom could destroy the world. He had a nightmare of him, after all. Instead, only time we really see his emotions towards Clark is when he says "Clark, no" which is forced as fuck.

@@TheRealSlimAnus Spot on. I liked ZSJL. But the character flaws in Batman and Superman are still persistent. Especially considering that both Bats and Supes barely had any good scenes, dialogues in BvS. We just have to assume that these two in Zack's universe are different interpretations which imo miss the point. However, I'm happy with the work he did on Flash and Cyborg in this film.

It was a beautiful moment

Whedon: “nope”

@@leonthesleepy "too angry and black" I think was said specifically. Fucking hell right?

I shed a small tear

Whedon: "my toes hurt" BRUH

"you can't have hope if you've always been perfect." Bingo.

"Reaching" -the comment by Westley Stone. The problems with the movies are that they arent well written, the characters have no real arc... there is nothing in the movies that are deep and well thought as whats in your comment.

@@NewLenses I don’t agree.

I think he felt that even more when his daughter passed away, he went from the darkest time, back up again and finished the film at last

Superman is a naturally hopeful and optimistic person. I like the Snyderverse, but man people need to stop saying this 😂. He's literally a boyscout character, i mean Captain America was literally modeled after him. That's why Superman and Lois is the best portrayal we have of Supes since Christopher Reeves

I love it when he said "his father died because of us". You get the feeling that they care for each other as a team and he also took that very personal

What character arc does AquaMan really have in either of these movies? He’s got like nothing.

@@markusandrew3680 f off

@@mohammedazam6562 huh? Why are you swearing at me? No I mean like seriously! What’s he got? I’m disappointed. I wanted more for him to do, and get more character!

@@markusandrew3680 he will get more when we get more Snyder movies, it is as simple as that

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Not really

I mean, I guess. It means that if movie producers invest in letting directors have this kind of freedom in Streaming platforms, we can see this kind of stuff a lot more. But it doesn’t really change it for the cinema industry at all. This movie would 100% not work on cinemas (not in this 4hour state and especially not in 2017) for many reasons. I am glad he got to show his wet dream movie. It was truly Snyder’s masterpiece and I’d argue his peak as a director (which is a great feat ).

It's a win but WB has a long way to go There needs to be a balance, ww84 had full creative control. But that didn't help

@@truepotential206 L nigga

Zack Snyder's Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Ugly Truth Now with 50% more ugly blue filters!

Diary of the wimpy kid: dawn of rodrick

They need to do part 2, because they need rodrick rules.

Good film but a bad spider-man film

@@National7575 yeah but not as good as diary of a wimpy kid: rodrick rules

Faith Cerebral TR, faith.

Wdym?

Idk, there's a chance AT&T might force Warner Brothers to revive the Snyderverse after the huge impact it's had. I think it would've been even more successful if HBO max was available in more countries, but even then it's still a major success critically.

@@Everik-ct6pg yes

They will, They have to

Dude..... 😭

For Autumn

Yeah man I felt that.

You could see it in his face, he was nearly crying. Damn. He put all the pain and emotion into his masterpiece.

DC is best when it's not trying to be Marvel imo

Well said. The Snyder Cut was truly brilliant.

@@irecordwithaphone1856 I love Marvel, but I appreciate both. DC when done right definitely gives me something different that Marvel doesn't give.....GRIT

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@@irecordwithaphone1856 So true. We don't need the same style of superhero films. Can you imagine if all Sci fi films was the same? Boring.

Bro I saw that and I was like damn that broke my heart

I teared up when I saw that he's been through so much I feel bad for ever making fun of him...

@Stella Hohenheim The internet was a mistake.

@@heshamhany8470 Statements without consequences give cowards power

@@andrewjazdzyk1215 what?

Ong 💯💯💯👍🏿😤

Reason why I support him is coz of his good heart and vision

@Neo's danger Star Wars: *isn't even mentioned* Fans: RIAN JOHNSON RUINED MY CHILDHOOD

@Neo's danger not realy joss was given a jumbled mess of a movie that's extremely bloated to fix and turn into a more marvel-esque film and in that regard I think he did a great job especially compared to snyder that just puts in everything from the comics to force a cinematic universe

@Neo's danger And Neil Druckmann.

I wish it was full screen but I got used to it

I don't personally. You get the entire shot instead of having it clipped off. I didn't even notice the bars when watching @ night.

I didn't even notice it untill it went to widescreen again.

@@Hervinbalfour I absolutely hated the full screen look...his reasoning was that the heroes were more vertical, but this is exactly meant to be the opposite, it's a story of teamwork where we are supposed to see them fight alongside each other. It's an alright film but I hate so many of the decisions he made and there's no reasoning with the fans.

@@NN1982nn same

To be honest, the zealot hater did not have faith either.

It's also a pity that the audience didn't have faith either

If I were a director in Snyder’s shoes, I think I’d resent Marvel a little bit. Their formula worked so well that it left no room in studio & audiences’ minds about what a superhero movie is. Good for them ofc but Snyder & DC definitely got cornered

@@sebswede9005 DC enthusiasts did, thats why we have this movie now lol edit: DC & Snyder enthusiasts.

@@Hypertoniclemon as a marvel fan I disagree I really despise the mcu especially with what they did with spiderman but while this would have been Snyder best work but I can understand why people had no faith in him as he made batman a superhero that doesn't kill or like guns does so put alot of people off but I love that Zack doesn't want to be marvel

Exactly. I mean Luke wasn’t the Jedi we knew at the end of ROTJ in ANH. He went through a journey in 3 movies were he triumphed, failed, pulled himself back up and became stronger than ever and the hero we know him today

This is the truth 💯🙂

Sharen Davis Why people never realize or do not want to accept that, I will never know.

@@kryptonianotaku4975 problem is he inst the hero we know hes a bum who gave up on everything after he tried to murder his nephew for having bad dreams

@@ruifigueiredo5486 nobody likes the sequels or considers them canon. I’m talking about the original Trilogy Luke Skywalker. The man who started out as a moisture and became Jedi Knight who took down a Galactic Empire and saved his father. Not the coward that was Jake Skywalker

Everyone be sure to watch the ultimate edition edit of Batman versus Superman. Yes, that made it three hours long but the longer cut includes a lot of subtle details that help make the whole story more cohesive.

@@David35687 I honestly think that if the Ultimate Edition had been released in cinemas, the film would have done much better with critics and audiences. It's a much better cut

@@MichaelLeroi it's the most underrated Superhero film out there. I rewatch it often and every time I pull something new from it thematically. I don't think people were willing enough with the content to engage with it. They saw a different version of Lex than they expected and an overall depressing tone and just wrote it off. Such a shame as it's a wonderful middle chapter in a fantastic trilogy.

I know right. They were probably all growing once Whedon showed up

I wish they showed that chemistry in the movie tho, they’re all so stoic, it’s a tragic film but come on, some levity is needed

@@ninjanibba4259 there was with flash and the rest. But this isn’t marvel. They aren’t gonna be joking around all the time when the situation doesn’t call for it at all.

Just happened to read this comment as the video came to the part with all the actors standing around Zach, all of them just smiling and laughing. This is what it should look like when behind the scenes, just everyone having a blast of a time, actually enjoying what they're doing.

@@freshnoodles2108 I’m not asking for it to be Marvel, I just need them to have more chemistry like they care

Ray has said he doesn't want to come back while Walter Hamada is in charge of WB

@@maldon3659 If ZS is involved he'd come back. He did the Knightmare scene for ZS.

Yeah at first I thought that he just act like a childish when I read his tweet but after I watch the Snyder Cut yeah he has the right to piss off to WB executive and Josh Whedon and tbh his role in Josstice League doesn't have any motivation while in Snyder Cut he had the motivation and story arc and yes WB make huge mistake in this one

Hope so, I didn't know they did him dirty like that.

The character is cool but I still don't like that actor one bit.

same, can't even explain how

It’s all right now

@@ricardoestrada5878 No it’s Beautiful. Bro chill

@@thedeep2202 Dude "It's all right now" is the dialogue from the movie, you need to chill instead

Oh stop it dude it's not that serious

I think Snyder has said that he wants to move on. Given the dedication to his daughter at the end of the movie, I think he wanted to finish it in her memory and just move on to other things. He’s spent a decade in this universe. That’s more than enough time in one world. He’s got a Zombie movie coming out later this movie.

I want to see what he would do with The Atom!

@@TheGeorgeD13 true and I would like him to make something different besides the DC universe

@Gentleman Murk hahahahahahah

@Gentleman Murk haha yea, but i do love gal gadot ww

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There is no universe without the Snyder Verse.

Brooo same. Honestly let them make that other trash for Warner bros so they can get their money. but if I were them I would try to just get together with Snyder for fun as a project and put out the REAL justice league universe

Suicide squad and wonder woman

Ah it's not really a big deal, pretty easy to smooth over any minor continuity errors and such if they decide to. Like until 1985 DC never had the same kind of cohesive universe that Marvel was doing. Justice League wouldn't be in continuity with Detective Comics. The Brave and The Bold would just grab characters from wherever. My point is that the DC universe is cobbled together (that's not a negative) whereas the Marvel universe from 1961 to about 1967 was under a single creative vision that laid its foundations. It's entirely appropriate to both companies.

Just like Disney did to John Boyega. Hollywood really has an ethnic problem. People of all colors can't have front and center unless it's a ethnic film. If they do its short lived

@Sheev Palpatine what? The dude said that's the problem with the establishment, and it's true

@Sheev Palpatine No Dude whedon was fucking terrible guy so is John many of coworkers or Movie actors that film with him as so many bad things to say he even tried to force the actress of wonder woman for flash tripping and landing in her boobs

@Sheev Palpatine and John Or whatever his name was is Said to be Fucking terrible by his colleagues one even said how Star Girl did good because the colleague thought it will a bad show

they didn't do shit to him he's just being a bitch

I read somewhere that he actually paid $70 million in total from his pocket to do some re shoots, marketing and making sure everything was prepared for release.

@@RyuTempest I don't think nearly all of that was his. AT&T wisely gave him a good budget to finish the film, but he did also spend some of his own on it, and all the work he did on it was pro bono. Even some actors came back to help him free of charge out of respect such as Jared Leto.

@@RyuTempest No he didn't pay any money, HBO Max produced his version of the movie as their max original. He pitched his version of the movie to WB/HBO max and how can they promote it and what it will mean to the fans. He clearly worked hard to get this version out and he didn't get paid anything because he said that he was already paid for his work in 2017, he is just finishing it.

Well to be fair didn’t he get paid by WB in 2016 when he was making it the first time?

Are they realising tho, because the new movies seem to br incorporating the Marvel style. I always loved the dark DC. While I enjoyed Marvel for its light heartedness, I wanted DC to be different. But now they go ahead making movies like WW84, which made no sense and drifted from the storyline initially established. Shazam was an ok family movie, but its so forgettable.

@@buka.a yep at least the good ones though,Shazam is like a modern rami movie

Joker was really good

@@buka.a no dceu film feels like a mcu movie. Idk why people like you keep saying that just because they incorporated some light hearted themes in recent dceu movies that goes along with the plot of the story.

@@BayScrilla510 Josstice league was a bad attempt at trying to be Marvel. Shazam was very Marvel with all the quips and jokes. You've got a guy tryna kill you and you throw a Batman toy at him saying "get him Batman". This isn't really what I'd expect to see in a DC film. Not saying it's bad, I'm just trying to emphasize on the direction DC seems to be headed in since Josstice 2017. They dont want to be dark/metal like the Zack/Nolan movies. Look up the recent Ann Sarnoff Variety interview. This is a missed opportunity to me.

People asked for something different and they hated it because it was different from the MCU.

it would be nice if something new was also good

Yessh that's scummy af

That's despicable.

Yes!! That is true

Well they had self-serving reasons that year. Talk of the AT&T buyout occurred all year with the expectation of it becoming official. And generally when a new boss buys a business they tend to clean house so any WB exec at the company in 2017 had no guarantee that they'd still be there if the 'potential billion dollar film' were delayed into 2018.

Fucking Kevin Tsujihara

It is overwhelmingly and intensely massive! Huge spectacle, and fantastic use of music and visual storytelling. Hands down the best hero moment of the last decade. ( it was made in 2017 right?)

@@snoopdoggydogg94 Made in 2016, supposed to hit theaters in 2017, but reshoots by Wheedon pushed it to 2018.

@@gracialonignasiver6302 YOu snyderbots like to make up your own history of the film but it ACTUALLY did hit theaters in 2017, and you all loved it and made excuses for it when it came out. of course you are all gonna say the snyder cut is the best thing ever. Chill dummies

Flash saves the entire justice league. Even superman could not survive the motherbox explosion.

@@dorkknight42 go outside and touch some grass

Yeah also isn't that movie rated r? Bit much for a small child in my opinion, bit it could only be r in a similar way to the snyder cut, because it had 4 fucks, that's 4 times the pg 13 fuck limit

@@mouthshovel no it’s much worse. Gave me nightmares as a kid.

@@abombtwin4986 why did you watch it as a kid?

@@hello-gx6oi my dad thought it was a normal superhero movie and didn’t even check the rating. He left to go on a date with my mom that night. After that I could only watch Star Wars when my parents went out. I’m not complaining

SPOILERS AHEAD there are even some scenes in this one that are parallels to those in BVS like when superman is resurrected and he's hovering in the air while batman looks at him from the ground. the only difference is that batman is the one trying to convince while supes is the one wanting to kill him (which is the exact opposite of what happened in BVS btw). it might not be a big deal but it still blew me how much these scenes mirrored each other.

@@zeep3047 yup

But if it starts out dark, then you don't care. If it had started out light, and BvS was saved until later, then it would have more of an impact. Like Marvel. It was more impactful when they went dark, because they spent so long being light

@@cameronhodgetts920 lol even at the darkest marvel wasn't dark. Thanos head chopped no blood. Jokes almost anytime there was something emotional. But either way i respect the story they try to tell but marvel movies are mostly just too bland for my taste. No director is perfect and no movie is either but from a filmaking standpoint i prefer anything snyder has done with dc over all marvel entries and im a person that watches both and don't hate on one because i like the other but for me dc movies have just been better. Even aquaman was smart to not throw jokes into every scene and shazam is understandable cus he's a kid but i feel if snyder had done it, it would have been extra badass.

@@HulkSmash512 marvel doesn't throw jokes in every scene. Did you even watch the beginning of Endgame? It goes a full half hour without a single wisecrack. And not having blood is just smart, because it allows them to have a PG-13 rating. Blood isn't necessary. Things can be violent without blood. For God's sake, Rhodey was paralysed in Civil War and Vision had his head ripped open

Yeahs mfs just can't understand how a character arc works

Yeah people wanted to Christopher Reeves happy-go-lucky always smiling with no stakes Superman. Saving cats and cracking jokes

@@mystical2846 usually a character arc work inside one movie and the next pick it up and try to improve the story, but I supose thats the problem with the franchise way of stoeytelling.

I've heard that argument, but to me it still feels like a fundamental misunderstanding of the character's psychology and motivations. Superman doesn't start off stoic then become warm and hopeful. The powerful spirit of altruism, kindness and optimism is his foundation. If anything, it makes more sense for him to start a bit naive then struggle to maintain his heart as he becomes seasoned, faces more trying conflicts, and is weighed down by the burden of his duty to the world. IMO, Snyder's intended arc for Superman is an inversion of how the truest version of the character organically develops. Granted, creators are entitled to put a spin on the character, but I think that sort of thing works best when it's acknowledged and emphasized that it is, in fact, a twist.

Yeah. He said how Superman has been largely the exact same character wise for years, (I never minded though) and thought it best to have Cavill grow and "level up" into the "classic Superman." (quotes are from an article not sarcasm)

Who let it thru??? WB..

If SNyder really respected the comic book character he wouldn't say things like he used Watchmen as a source of inspiration, cus that's a story that was told with the intention of saying that taking superhero this seriously is bad for the characters. He has such a toxic view, and has talked down to fans who don't like his movie. There's a reason the fanbase is as toxic as it was

@@PartyDownMan3000 the positive things about Snyder is the fact he cares about the characters and actually respects fans instead of trashing fans that trash his movies unlike star wars and mcu directors and/ or executives. For whatever reason you felt like describing snyder in a way that he isn't.

@@thecensoredmuscle563 I like how you don't even address the Watchmen point. And you may close your eyes to the shit he's said, but he's a real whiny asshole who attacked people who don't like his Batman. It's funny, cus recently he said he's fine with people who didn't like his Batman, but not to long ago he went on a drunk tirade about people who need to grow up.

Snyder respects character. Are you dumb? Superman is supposed to be symbol of life and hope, snyder made him brooding and boring. Pls stop saying snyder respects characters. He takes characters and tries to make them edgy for no reason, and i dont mind batman killing even though it's against his code, this batman is someone whos dealt with shit for more than 20s so ofc his code would be a bit loose, i get that, but thats the only excuse he has for a character. Wonder woman has no arc whatsoever. Barry just says one dialogue his father told him at the beginning of the movie which even had nothing to do with what barry did at the end. He literally had barry say it, like snyder doesnt get being subtle. Cyborg hates his dad for no reason and ignore's him all the time but and he dies, thats it. Thats not an arc, but he did at least give some characterization this time, unlike his previous dc movies. istg yall act like zack is god for doing the bare minimum

@@kp1x - I LOVE Batman vs Superman Ultimate Cut. That movie is a masterpiece. It was ahead of it's time, and I honestly believe that a lot of people just weren't mature enough to handle the themes Zack was dealing with.

Not gonna happen when there’s $200 million poured into them. Seth Rogen talks about this with his experience doing a $100 million budget for Green Hornet versus his $15-30 million comedies. Nobody in the studio gives a shit or checks on him and his team when making those relatively small comedies, but once he did Green Hornet, all of a sudden they were all over him, hounding him and checking and questioning every move.

@@KabbalahSherry it definitely isn’t a masterpiece I swear people just throw that word around at everything nowadays

@@chrismarple yeah like “ZSJL is a masterpiece”. Like it’s a good movie solid 7/10 but it in no way is even the best DCEU movie. Shazam

@@KabbalahSherry people weren't mature enough to handle the dean's oh please get off your high horse Zack Snyder conveyed his themes were very sloppy and messy his movie was absurdly complicated in it's storytelling

Why ? Did it cost him anything to do this ? If not, how can u have ANY stakes in any future Movie at all ?

@@Ixiah27 it does cost him. Remember when he said it affects time? Basically it’s like you drop a glass of water, that’s the first time travel. When the fix it, that’s the second time travel but the glass will show some visible cracks. Which means the timeline won’t be the same. So yea, the stake are if you change the timeline then you risk make some negative changes.

@@Theo-bk6qj Its not a stake if all it does is telling you how dangerous it is, not showing any consequences.

@@Ixiah27 Then you obviously haven't seen the nightmare scenes

@@TheAinAvaa How is this connected to going back in time and where is the scene in the movie that shows it ?

SS is just disappointing but it has good models, actors, characters and sountrack

@@daiki1697 I just want the movie that the original trailer showed. Still get chills watching it every now and again

@@takeidas me too, still hopeful on it on hbo max because why not

@@daiki1697 They might. AT&T is about money and lord knows we'd pay for anything Snyder/Ayer/Affleck at this point

@@takeidas hope so

And btas,the Batman (2004)and teen Titans

Who is to say Joss Whedon had more creative control over JL? Looks like he got screwed over as well. Now that we know the opening title scene wasn’t filmed by Zack where we have a homeless guy with card where It was written that I tried I believe.

@@National7575 the dcau in general

@@shahidmirza1138 As much shit as people give Whedon for ruining JL(and I think that also partly has to do with the behind the scenes drama) he was told to come in and change certain things and make the movie shorter and lighter and he did

People keep blaming whedon when the man was just paid to make the movie more like his own avengers movie. The studio is the one at fault not whedon

I know I know but 69th like Edit it's 68

wow didn't realise that. Awesome actually

Completely agreed W Ratchet pfp

@@ABadJokeYTwhat about Nelson Mandela?

Same man. The scene where Martha Kent was talking to Lois lane was real heart warming moment for me ☹.

@@FrancistheBrave That was Martian Manhunter posing as Martha when talking with Lois

@@genshinsage I know lol.

@@genshinsage Spoilers !!!

Dont give up❗

Gl 👍

good luck on your journey.

Getting to see the Cyborg character development was definitely one of the best parts of the film.

IRS go brrrrrrrr

Definitely one of my favorite people in Hollywood

He is my favorite director of all time ❤

yeah and the fact that he didn't get a single dime from this movie shows how much he cares for the fans and how much he prioritises creative integrity in the movie industry.

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Wait so Robert Downey Jr was naked during the set?

@@jackoplumkin6412 he stopped wearing a practical iron man suit after the first avengers. The cgi looked terrible after that.

@@parkeranimations3671 I was joking. But whatever

@@jackoplumkin6412 well I thought it was a good joke

Absolutely. I don't know if he was going to make Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern Hal Jordan, but he did say that he wanted to get him invopved again. I'd have been perfectly fine with that. None of what was wrong with Green Lantern had anything to do with Ryan Reynolds as Hal Jordan, and I would be totally receptive to him getting another chance.

Fans: Fine we will use the old ways.

Gonna miss Henry Cavill as Superman too.

They did show one dead so there is a possibility

@@Tyler_W He wanted both lanterns. Or I think he wanted John Stewart first and leave Hal for WB.

Why ? I mean seriously, why ? If you remove all the special effects, all it is, is Flash pressing a Button that says "Save the World" at no cost for him whatsoever. What is so heroic about that ? Do you have any idea how broken that ability is for future Movies ?

His Teammates would be dead

@@Ixiah27 But at the same time, he cant do it all the time. In the comic, Flash changing past is dangerous as hell and its already established many times. Even in this movie, if you notice, after running back in time to 10 seconds ago...Flash literally dissapeared for a few minutes. It's like the very last option because if he fails....well.... it's the end

@@Ixiah27 if you remove the special effects on Portal scene of endgame 🙄

@@kikijihan8316 you have said in the comics this is the fucking movie

Same

Same

All Zack Snyder Movies are fucking Masterpieces 😂. The MAN is a GOD

That wasnt the problem with DC though. I enjoyed Man of Steel, didnt like BvS, because of the terrible writing. I love that Snyder doesnt want to fit the Marvel comedy style, he wants to show an epic, meaningful story. That being said, his visuals are great, the stories just need a little bit polish.

@@kp1x Couldnt understand? Where did you get that from? BvS concept is quite simple, the execution however needed a lot of work. There is a reason why Martha scene, while great as a concept, didnt work. Hell, even the conflict between Batman and Superman is inefficient, because the movie spends quite some time to establish idealogical conflict, only to start the fight because of a blackmail. So dont come at me with "you didnt understand BvS".

I still think they should've just followed what Marvel did in Phase 1 where every character got a movie before they all came together to form the Justice League instead they just rushed it by trying to introduce everything in BvS which made everything needlessly complicated

The movie is literally just the first Avengers movie, just with less jokes. SO much hype and pissing and moaning, only for the movie to be the safest thing I've ever seen. He didn't shit the bed like he did with BvS, and I'm supposed to be impressed? Nah. Only good movie was MoS

Well, the thing is, not every movie franchise can work with the marvel formula, Zack Snyder has a vision on what his “own” DC universe would go, like Kevin Fiege has his way of making his “own” MARVEL universe. Now, some people can learn the characters like Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg through flashbacks until they get their respective solo films or not, but that’s just how Zack saw it.

As both a MCU fan as well as one who grew up with DC comics, I absolutely agree. Snyder treated these characters like mythology. They were shot, framed, and presented to us like GODS. The glory of the slo motion scenes double down on that. MCU feels more like the type of movies you would watch with your family, eating popcorn and enjoying yourself. It's certainly not bad, it's definitely great at what it does. It's just different.

Listen, i actually like the Snyder Verse (Batman v Superman Ultimate Edition is great, as is the Snyder Cut), but it is absolutely wrong to say Snyder understands the characters. I'm sorry but this is something people who do not read the comics think. Superman isn't a brooding character, he's literally the most hopeful and optimistic person. Superman is not a hero because he has powers and good parents, Superman is a hero because Clark Kent is a fundamentally good person. THAT is the whole point. Superman is the DC counterpart to Captain America, that's why Marvel made Captain America in the first place. Was Winter Soldier a serious film? Yes. But did it make Cap a brooding dark character? No. He was the optimistic hero who still held his own in face of the problems. This is exactly who Superman is. If you read Superman: Rebirth in DC comics you will see that. To add to hope and optimism, Superman isn't dumb enough to fight a superpowered villain in the middle of the city. Superman would have flown into the middle of the Pacific Ocean or into an empty field to fight Zod. He would never fight Zod where millions of civilians could be hurt. This was the problem with Man of Steel. Is it a good movie? Yes. Is Cavill a good Superman? Yes. Is the writing and tone right? Absolutely not. Cavill could be light years better than the current Superman we have on the CW, and yet the Superman & Lois show is EVERYTHING that the Snyderverse Superman fails to be.

@@UltraX34 couldn't agree more, bro! I don't wanna a faithful comics adaptation, I just wanna see good stories with my favorites characters. MoS is not a good story, DEFINITELY BVS is not a good story. Both movies are giants messes. I think Snyder get that and try to made a correction in Justice League. Obviously WB is guilt too, most of all about 2017 cut. That was embarrassing... It was them that wanna DC movies to be more like Marvel movies. DCEU could be about mythology, but with cohesion, you know? When the critics said that it would be better to have solo movies about the heroes before release Justice League, it's because that would build a more cohesive universe. BvS tried to be A LOT OF MOVIES IN ONE, and that was a BIG MISTAKE. There's no story in BvS, it sound like a big ad for future movies. What mythology did BvS tell us?

​@@UltraX34 ​ - As someone who's read hundreds upon hundreds of Superman comics over the course of the last eight years or so and considers him my favorite character of all time, I couldn't disagree with you more. Superman is optimistic and hopeful, yes-but to insist that he never broods or doubts himself shows a fundamental misunderstanding of not just who he is, but what he is, both to himself and others. Clark (which is who he identifies as and it's important to never forget that; that he's human on the inside, not a perfect being) derives his hope from the people in his life. From Lois, his parents, his coworkers, the people of Metropolis, the Justice League, etc. His hope isn't self-sustaining. It's his support system. He's said it several times in the comics that it's others who inspire him, which is what enables him to inspire them in turn. The reason it's important that Superman experiences doubt is that it keeps him grounded and prevents him from becoming self-righteous. From imposing his will on others because he thinks his way is objectively the right way. Clark understands that might doesn't make right. That he must never lose sight of what is in humanity's best interest. Because once he does that, he loses touch with that human core that is the boy that Jonathan and Martha Kent raised and becomes this "other" who sees himself as above ordinary people. What makes Clark Kent Superman is that he doesn't think that way. He's humble, compassionate, and considerate. To be considerate, you have to take your actions into consideration. You have to consider what's the best thing for everyone. You don't just assert it. You ask yourself. If he didn't ask himself, what we'd end up with is the Injustice version of Superman. And that, my friend, is one of the most inaccurate, disrespectful versions of the character and the one I dislike the most. Clark isn't brooding. He's introspective. He's considerate. Yes, he has moments where he broods, but that's accurate to the comics. There are so many where he's brooding in orbit or over Metropolis or on a rooftop. This is because he does have a human heart and a heart is a heavy thing. Heavier than anything Superman could lift with his hands. Think about it. Superman saves people on a regular basis. We see it ourselves in BvS; that montage of him rescuing people daily. But if you're saving a life, that means you're facing down the horrible things that put those lives in peril. You're facing the darkest the world has to offer. Do you think doctors smile and kid around while they're saving lives and treating the ill? Do you think they feel chipper when they did everything they could, but it just wasn't enough? That's Superman. And if he's donning the cape, it's because it's a job for Superman. If it's a job for Superman, it must be serious. But what about when he isn't being Superman? Are you considering the moments where he's just Clark Kent? Where he's being his true self and not face-to-face with life-or-death situations? Because that's where you see who he is and what his core values are. But sadly, people overlook Clark and by doing that, you overlook Superman. You can't have one without the other. As Clark, we see him smiling and happy with his loved ones. With his mom and Lois. He smiles as he walks among the people on the ferry to Gotham. He positively beams when he comes home to Martha or Lois. His face lights up when he takes flight for the first time. He smiles when Lois welcomes him to the Planet; it's literally the closing shot of Man of Steel. He smiles at the parent whose child he just saved from a burning building as he sets her down safely. And he smiles to Lois once again when he's made peace with his place on Earth and decided that this world is worth dying for; when he sacrifices himself (something he's done numerous times throughout these films; when he turned himself over to the military and then to Zod in Man of Steel, for example, because it was the right thing to do; he sacrificed himself when he lifted the bus out of the water, saved the men on the oil rig, stood up for the waitress, saved Lois when she was wounded, all while knowing the risk it posed to him by exposing his nature to those around him-something lifted directly out of Superman: Birthright) to save the world. In those moments, he is where he wants to be. He is who he wants to be. He's with the people who mean the world to him. Who are his world. And in the end, he realized that this is his world. The core of Superman's beliefs and principles is love. He uses his powers to help people because he can. He has no obligation to us, but he helps us anyway. Why? What compels him to pull us out of fires we often caused? What drives him to put his own life on the line in service of people who either see him as some angelic figure or something to be hated and feared, when all he wants is to belong? It's the fact that he cares. He didn't have to save his bully from the sinking bus. He didn't have to come to the waitress's defense. He didn't have to take a leap of faith on our behalf. He didn't have to pursue the Batman story because "good people were living in fear." But he cares about those people. He cares about his adopted homeworld. He loves. This is something he grapples with in "For Tomorrow" and Pastor Daniel Leone (who is included in MoS and BvS) helps him come to that conclusion. "Why, then... if not out of love?" he asks him. In the climactic moment, when he's about to charge at Doomsday, Lois tries to stop him. But his last words to her-and last words, period, as far as he knows-are, "This is my world. You are my world." This is after saying that his world doesn't exist anymore and that no one stays good in this world. After Luthor pushed him to his limits to prove that his goodness was a lie. That he could be broken. But he proved to himself that he's stronger than that when he redeemed Batman, rather than killing him to save his mother. He showed Bruce that "men are still good." That's growth. That's character development. That's humanity on all sides. We're not supposed to agree with their earlier statements. We're supposed to root for them to overcome and become the best versions of themselves. But they can't do that if they're already the best from the start. When Clark tells Lois that she's his world, he's telling us that he loves the world. In spite of everything, he still cares. Remember in MoS, when Martha told Clark to pretend that the world was an island, out in the ocean? To swim to it? He went to her. He considered his mother his world. In BvS, during his period of doubt following the loss Luthor inflicted on him, his vision of his father says that Martha was his world. Again, we learn through this metaphor that the world represents what he loves. And that's Superman. He's just a guy who does what he does out of love. It sounds sappy, but it's true. It's canon. He wouldn't be Superman if he acted out of anything other than his care for others. How could he lay down his life for a world he didn't love? He literally died for it. And you know what makes this the most meaningful, impactful adaptation of the Superman from the comics? The fact that it was all his choice. It's who he is. Jor-El sent him to Earth so that he could make his own destiny; a life other than what their society had intended. Jonathan Kent encouraged him to find out what kind of person he wanted to be. And Martha told him to be who he wants to be. Who he is. In Zack Snyder's Justice League, we get the culmination of this when the voices of his fathers, Jonathan Kent and Jor-El, speak to him. "Your heart was tested." "I know it's been hard, Clark." "But you gave hope to their world." "You need to show them who you are." "Love them, Kal. The way we loved you." "Fly, son. It's time." Zack Snyder had a plan from the beginning. Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Justice League were all chapters in his storyline, not just individual stories. And he also had two Justice League sequels planned out that would complete Superman's arc and transform him into the ideal we all recognize him as. But that character arc means nothing if he's already at his best from the very start. He had to be tested. He had to live those experiences. He had to find who he was. He wasn't just born Superman. He had to become Superman. And, for the most part, we got that. But because so many were impatient and insisted that their view of the character is right and everything else is wrong, we may never get to see the full realization of Superman at his purest. Again, I've read hundreds of Superman comics. He's been my favorite character for a long time now and I don't see that ever changing. I've studied him, his relationships, his motives, his strengths, his weaknesses, and the little intricacies that set him apart from other superheroes. With all of that put into perspective, what Zack Snyder brought us has been the single most comic-accurate version of Clark Kent to ever grace the big screen. If you don't like it, that's fine. But don't go telling Superman fans that he's not true to the source material. If you want me to cite specific sources, I'll even sort through my collection and do just that. I'm always happy to recommend more Superman comics.

@@kyransawhill6650 was the Superman comics you read New 52 lol

3 lives actually, a mother and her 2 kids.

It's realistic. No one is gonna accept a stranger different than a normal human as a hero moments after they show up even after they've saved them.

not true? The tease was another dark movie, of evil superman

@@uwinvidanage2252 yes the next film wa gonna be a dark film but them justice league 3 and then man of steel 2 was meant to be the more hopeful ending

@@uwinvidanage2252 yea you clearly don't understand zack's vision then. after superman becoming evil, he will finally be the cheerful and hopeful superman that everyone know. zack's vision didn't start his 5 movie arc with a superman that's already hopeful, zack's vision show the journey of supes becoming that hopeful superman

@@GM-dg6mj he is seen as a bad guy in MoS and he's seen as a bad guy in the tease of ZSJL what arc are you talking about

@@uwinvidanage2252 offtopic but your name sounds Sri Lankan

Yeah, but his killing should've stopped in BvS after the Martha scene.

Stopped killing? Have you heard Snyder actually talk about why this Batman kills?

it's... not a good arc

@@_Alex_Zer0_ dude it’s not like he is going to immediately revert to not killing after that. It wouldn’t even make sense to a logical degree and would seem too much of a 180 of his character at that point.

I mean, nice try. But it doesn’t excuse how bad of an adaptation of Batman’s number fucking ONE rule as a character was. I get the point but uh.... nah. Cute concept, horrible execution

I could not agree more. So glad I clicked.

Why because he is indirectly and continously hating zack's previous movie by calling them bad and mediocre

Yep, all they needed was some time. I'm glad Zack didn't start the characters as we've always seen them, albeit that hurt the product in the long run

@@usmanqureshi8941 I think he deliberately started them off as flawed and different from how we expected them, so that they could have character growth and become the characters we were so familiar with

@@muffinman3052 oh i totally agree, the casual audience didn't wait though, they reacted too fast. ironically, the overreaction shown by the audience was also the world's reaction to Batman and Superman in the film

The Snyder cut has completely reshaped how I saw the previous movies for the better.

Problem with that is, if say Snyder's vision is completed, it would have a definitive end. It was never meant to be like the MCU. It had a start, a middle of sorts, and then the end. I think WB will probably reboot it should Zack get the go ahead (Even if it were one more film).

Wow really? It's way too fucking late for Batman. The only reason he was regarded as a hero was his unwavering morality. Dudes been killing left and right this version. He isnt a hero in this movie and he never will be after his deeds

@@TallicaMan1986 lmao

Its really sad that people can't or won't understand what snyder was trying to do with batman's reintroduction or Rebirth story along side wonder woman's rebirth as well, I aint hating others but people complaining about comic book accuracy should either just stick to reading comics or wait for the movie characters to grow into the comic book ones

Especially considering Cyborg had some very good reasons to be angry and brooding. If he was white, that probably wouldn't have been a problem. Johns really needs to realize that making some good comic book stories doesn't mean he's meant to produce movies or TV shows.

Dumbass destroys entire Citys with no regard for Human life, epic tale.

@@Ixiah27 2 kryptonians going at each other with full force, of course there's gonna be destruction. It's the starting point for the BVS movie.

@@bobbyspray And the ending of it. Who in the wold thought it was a good idea writing a Superman who is so reluctant, over 3 movies, to help people ? Whos base mode after he gets ressurected was kill ? Who only gets into helping others because Lois reminds him to ? Who will turn into an even bigger Monster should Lois die ? Thats not fucking "Realism" thats simply idiotic.

@@Ixiah27 Ok for you MoS is trash because you don't see Superman saving people. And to me as i said before, it is epic. No big deal.

@@Ixiah27 Most of the Destruction IS actually caused by Zod & the world engine. Pay attention to the movie You r watching.

Shoutout to Joseph Anderson and his biblical sized videos of the Witcher Saga

But there are youtube vids that should be shorter but become 10minutes and 1second long

Me too dude

Pretty sure that comes out the same weekend as A Quiet Place part 2 as well.

Toxic ass synder fan🤣🤣🤣

@@dewit2847 this comment section is filled with snyder riders so you are probably going to get hate

@@dewit2847 How is this toxic though?

Honestly there are some people in this comment section tho who are getting so triggered by the fact that zack tried to do something different with these characters. Like the mcu hasn’t done the same thing a majority of the avengers.

@@darkfire2942 No one cared that its "different" They cared that he tried to make everyone an edgleord, while bloating a Movie lenght without adding anything of substance.