The Sonic Game They Wanted You to Forget About 

Mania straight up made everyone forget this game

Sonic 06 and boom tried the same thing.

​@Tree_5000 No, they didn't, 06 was in Gens and has music in the Frontiers update, and they still sell merchandise revolving around it

​@@amydoesart3724 man i literally forgot about mania, and it's weird seeing barely nobody talk about it nowadays maybe it's just me, maybe i'm seeing way less mania content

​​​@@evdestroy5304 Adding on to your statement, Eggman's leitmotifs from '06 have lasted a while. I _believe_ they weren't used in Frontiers, but I still wouldn't be surprised to hear them again in future releases. They're a really good set of musical things. (edit - grammar, fixed subject-verb agreement)

I played it on mobile as a kid. Back in the iPhone 4 days. The game isn’t great but I have a lot of nostalgia for it.

That explains the lack of momentum.I mean even Sonic fucking Advance which was also developed by Dimps had momentum. But if you think in a cheap and easy to do Sonic game that you can make it for a phone,and considering how simple phones were back then...I get it

@@xxsegaxx Dimps had no creative freedom when making this game.

@@MarioLuigi0404 That's gotta be the most reasonable statement on a Sonic game ever made.

Is it really only me who thinks that sonic 4 was sorta trying to copy the new super Mario bros style but then try to also make it 2d with cell shading and then made it completely terrible all at once?

I think the problem is that they used the rush engine physics for an advance-classic type of game. Thus, the really weird controls. I wonder why. I suspect that the advance engine was 2D, so they went with the rush engine for the 3D physics. They likely didn't have the time/resources/initiative to accomodate it to the classic gameplay. Also they expected it to kinda fly under the radar since it was going to be a mobile game, then SEGA or ST decided it is sonic four now. That's my guess

And 3DS classic Sonic physics are genuinely on point

@@alescano3504 Ok but the rush engine wasn't mobile compatible

@@alescano3504 none of that makes any sense from a programming perspective

I think the answer is simple: Sonic 4 was developed as smartphone game called "Sonic the Portable". For some stupid reason Sega rebranded this mobile game as "Sonic 4 Episode I" to cash in the trend of cheap Xbox Live Arcade and Wiiware games and Episodic releases. Because this game was made for touch screen devices in mind, removing all momentum makes easier to control Sonic when you have no tactile feedback. So I believe the absence of momentum in Sonic 4 Episode I was a design choice. For Episode II they fixed the physics, somewhat, but that game got panned by critics despite being better than Episode I.

1, cd, 2, 3 , and knuckles, mania

It's almost as if Sonic 4 happens after Sonic Mania 🤔

1, CD, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania, Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Rush, 06, Rush adventure, Secret rings, Unleashed, Black Knight, Colors, Generations, Lost world, Forces, Frontiers.

Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 and Knuckles, Triple Trouble, 4, MANIA

​@@skylertherat 1, CD, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania, Plus...

🎅 What about Christmas?

Can the other brothers even deny?

amen brother

We only need jakey too

For a second I misread the start of this comment as "Imagine the motion blur on Isaac Newton's face" 💀

Damn this was the better title and I blew it. Take the channel I guess.

@@relaxalax gamin'.

@@relaxalax This game was made by Dimps, who also made Sonic Advance.

Not me. I still love this game.

Ep 2 is an improvement

Is the second banjo kazooie, jack and daxtar or rachet and Clank. I'm not too familiar with those and I'm curious.

@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 it’s Crash

@@samueld8413 there was a fourth game before the remakes and Crash 4 it's about time ?

​@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 COUGH COUGH (wrath of cortex) COUGH COUGH (crash 4 in japan)

I was anticipating the classic "which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice" but then I remembered you said quarter instead of nickel.

The mobile versions are the complete versions of the game, you played the unfinished version

Y'know that alax breaks the "meow"s

Thank you new RU-vid policies for letting creators swear again

How many times has he used it?

Cling film

I could see why. In most 2000's Sonic games, the fast Sonic levels were the best parts, but were constantly interrupted by the other characters.

​@Vivid Color, and Rich Audio! Or in same games like Adventure 2 be over 2/3 of the game...

​​@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 I can understand that. But at that time it just felt like Sonic fans never even wanted their friends to appear in no capacity it was ludicrous when you think about it.

@@KgEclispe252 I wouldn't really say it was the fans, mostly the critics. It explains why episode 1 had decent reception.

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 I would argue it was also the fans who believe these same critics back then. I remember seeing a parody trailer about Sonic 4 and the whole joke around was that storytelling and Sonic friends are the problem we just want Sonic and that's it. I get it Sonic 06 but still it's ridiculous that it was blamed solely on that instead of Sega being incompetent.

If you can tolerate 2006's abysmal hub world, or the fetch quests in Shadow, you should have no problem with Sonic 4.

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 No, 06's hub worlds are easy if you know where to go, you're barely ever in them, and shadow's quests aren't bad, they're all extremely easy and usually just involve not ignoring the entire level, the "kill all enemy" quests are something you always do in one run except for the one on the nonlinear ark stage

@@Eevee860 "The hubworlds are easy if you've preemptively memorized the entire thing" yeah, that's the problem.

Peru

Can Sonic fans bring up anything else aside from "Baldy McNosehair" when talking about this game's story please? Also the "holding boost" argument doesn't make any sense since Colors is the most platforming heavy boost game. Did you even play the game for more than the first few levels?

Colours*

“You don’t even know your own fate, hedgehog.”

were you sonic

Hand is rivals

2010 was one of the best times to be a Sonic fan. The 3d games finally started doing well.

@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 Good joke lol. Colors DS and Generations were like only good games in the 2010+. And the writing, oh God the writing in the 2010+ games are just beyond atrocious. The stories are laughable and everyone's character was massacred into oblivion. Doesn't help that the new voice actors are horrible.

@@lafbkhope5391 Have you considered removing your nostalgia goggles? Also, if you want *real* atrocious writing, go replay Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic 2006.

I rather play Mario Galaxy 2 and Mario 3D Land over Colors and Generations. Mario>>>>>>>>>Sonic

THATS WHAT I AM SAYING!

nope it's *WAAAAAAAAAAAY* better then episode 1 and it's pretty fun

The game was intended to be a mobile game called Sonic Portable or something like that which is why it looks much better for some reason. EP. 2 looks worse on mobile, however.