The Sonic Theorist: Who Were Silver’s Ancestors? 

I’ve gotta say Sonamy. Also, I LOVE the tidbit about Sonic SHAVING HIS CHEST FUR. Picture this: Tails: Wha-what are you doing? Sonic: *slowly putting the razor down* ...reducing wind resistance...

"Silver was able to induce a chaos control just like Shadow, despite not having any prior experience or knowledge of it" SO WAS SONIC, AND HE DID IT WITH A FAKE CHAOS EMERALD!! A F*CKING *FAKE* CHAOS EMERALD!!!

Scourge:shadow isn’t silvers relative Lots of sonic fans:unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way

But then why couldn't silver seal iblis inside himself. blaze said "only someone of royal blood can seal iblis" or something like that

Silver went back in time and made himself his own grandfather. *Edit: i forgot this comment was a thing I wrote once and posted online. And yeah for those confused it was a Futurama joke lol.

Look guys, We gotta realize. SILVER ISN'T EXACTLY SLOW. In fact, He seems to be pretty fast. In 06, He's seen to be faster than TAILS, Who keeps up with sonic on a daily basis. He literally RACES against sonic MULTIPLE times, Sometimes winning, In Rivals. He also raced in the 3ds version of Sonic Generations. The only reason people actually think he is slow... Is because in 06, A few characters are faster than him. Who are these characters? A PRINCESS FROM ANOTHER DIMENSION THE "ULTIMATE LIFE FORM" And the FASTEST THING ALIVE. Come on, that's not very fair to say just because of these things, he's outright SLOW. (BTW, I wrote this on the other video, I copy-pasted it here)

SEGA described Blaze's and Silver's relationship as a sibling relationship with Blaze being the older sibling. It be weird if it turned out that Blaze was Silver's ancestor in my opinion because the clear intention was that Blaze is Silver's older sibling figure. There is evidence for Shadow, Sonic or Amy. They are all Hedgehogs so it makes sense but I believe that Silver's ancestors where never shown yet or possibly they never be seen.

Love how gamer guy went on to completely ignore that shadow has no relation to silver which we know because it was litterally confirmed

How does silver have so much chest hair if he's only 14?

A problem with Scourge's theory is the fact that Naka said that Sonic won't marry Amy, nor would he have any kids. However, That statement was vague and he kept saying "right now" meaning, he may change his vision. Iizuka on the other hand straight up said "No" in the question on Shadow being the father of Silver. Another point: Silver and Blaze never talk to eachother like mother and son. For instance: Silver never call Blaze "Mom" and he explicitly said that Blaze is his FRIEND. #TeamScourge

19:28 Gamerguyd: “Both have a duty of some sort to protect their world.” (Ironically shows Shadow attacking the G.U.N soldiers with Chaos Blast when he sides with Black Doom from the introduction of SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG.)

The biggest problem with Blaze potentially being an ancestor of Silver would be the glaring issue of Silver not being able to seal Iblis inside of himself. Especially if he was as direct a descendant as her son he would have been able to do that.

Sonic and Amy makes way more sense. On top of the confirmation of Shadow not being the father. Shadow also holds massive hatred against Silver so it wouldn't work regardless

boy, Scourge has a much better theory, if I had to extrapolate that SIlver´s ancestors are from the main cast, then Sonic, Amy, Shadow and Blaze are all suitable options, however if Iizuka says Silver is not related to Shadow, then being related to Sonic/Amy/Blaze would make more sense due to his theory of the inheritance of powers, now GamerGuyd just extrapolates too much on his part, Blaze and Shadow having chemistry despites no interaction between them? Blaze´s world having a slower time progression despites Sonic could visit it twice and Blaze visit Sonic´s world just in time for the birthday party while all mantaining their original ages? too much assumption, yeah, Scourge wins here.

Scourge theorist: sonic could have removed his body fur also 2020 me: yup the movie proves it

He's related to Sonic that would explain why Amy even with her senses mixed him up with Silver

"There's no wrong answer here" Actually there is and that would be Shadow being SIlvers father. He's not. Simple as that.

In the comics Blaze actually shows that she kinda has a crush on him in treasure team tango in sonic universe

I also want to say, for whomever wants to call my proof fake just because I overall shown screenshots of my Facebook message of Takashi Iizuka confirming Shadow and Silver are not related along with proof it's coming from Mr. Takashi himself, the reason why I showed screenshots and blacked out names on his friends list is because it's common sense and respect to those who probably wouldn't want their name to be on a RU-vid video, and plus I don't need my friends names revealed. If I went through showing you all the message through view the full message option on Facebook, as you Facebook folk know, doing so, would show your friends names and partially their conversation if you're using your PC and I certainly didn't want to do that. I don't have pro editing software to blur words, so I just decided to take a screenshot of what he told me. Honestly, if I were lying, I really believe LEGAL action would of been taken against me in 2016. I would of been investigated, and my proof would not have been mention on the Sonic Wikia and Archie Sonic Comic Wikia pages for Shadow and Silver. All I wanted for many years ever since I read on Silver's trivia page on the Archie Sonic Comic Wikia of he possibly being related to Shadow since Sonic and The Black Knight was to get a direct answer from Shadow's actual game creator rather than reach out to SEGA who could be anyone to answer my question or not at all. Meaning like I'm not gonna waste my time sending them a letter, or an email. I rather contact the Man that created Shadow The Hedgehog FROM Sega and I felt I had better chances to reach out to Takashi Iizuka through his Official Facebook. So It doesn't surprise me that there are people that want to be against what I shown and would come up with any invalid reason to call it fake. Scourge's theory video can continue to be debated about because it's interesting and can lead to other possibilities excluding Shadow. You're all entitled to what you read on the internet and what you believe in, but I KNOW and there are many people such as Scourge that know that Takashi Iizuka confirmed that Shadow and Silver are not related, so they are not related. So this theory is proven false when it comes to Silver being a descendant of Shadow. I'm sorry to those who are upset they are not related and I got the answer, and you're welcome to those who are grateful I got the answer. I just wanted to clear some things up, so there is a better understanding.

#teamscourge …there’s just, a stronger argument there in my opinion- it uses science rather than opinion based on the Archie comics. Gamerguy, comics are great to reference in most instances, but the comic timeline is COMPLETELY different from the video game timeline and should not be mixed.

Can we get MatPat to say "BUT THATS JUST A THEORY, A GAME THEORY!"

Someone on the dev team openly states that Shadow isn't related to silver. GamerGuyd7Aces' theory is that shadow is the dad. Sorry but I stopped paying attention as soon as his theory started, just weak compared to Sega Scourge.

8:05 I just love seeing Silver ambling along the beach with Amy in a despairing manner like, "Why am I here?"

Wouldn’t the fact that Shadow was locked up by humanity while Iblis was destroying the world break the whole “Shadow and Blaze are Silver’s direct parents” theory? And either way Blaze seemed to have more of a romantic interest towards Silver with her “I always liked that about you”. The only thing that could back Gamer Guy’s theory up is the possibility that the Blaze from 06 came from a whole different universe, where she still didn’t meet Shadow, and where the only person she had contact with was Sonic (hence her “blue hedgehog…”) and literally no one else, but even then it wouldn’t make any sense because blaze teleports herself into a new dimension at the end of silver’s story in 06, and then why would silver just drop into a destroyed universe, unless the universe where he was residing was the one where Blaze teleported herself into at the end of Silver’s story in 06? Could it be that Iblis was released from her and both Blaze and Shadow died in the process, and the Iblis that was released was the Ifrit? But then again, even the thought of that sounds weird given that people see more of a romantic intercourse between her and Silver, and GG’s theory would just bring a lot of confusion and many other points that should be explored to make it considerable. I’d have to go with Scourge’s theory in this case because it’s the one that makes the most of sense, it’s easier to think about it and more logical

maybe silver ISN'T related to just ONE of our favorite hedgehogs! MAYBE SHADOW HAD A KID, SONICxAMY HAD ONE, then those kids came together, had some more kids. TADA! silver! XD nope!

While the idea that Silver and Shadow have similar traits and that Shadow and Blaze share near identical personalities is basically irrefutable. GamerGyd uses a lot assumptions, similarities to other franchises, and cruising cannons to support his theory, something you should never do. Might I bring up that in Blaze's case -while the dimension having a different time passage has no basis of evidence- that in Sonic Rush Adventure, while she still will persist on being independent in since regards, she has clearly taken Sonic's advise from the first game, and learned to allow her friends to assist her when she requires it. Something that Shadow is very reluctant to do. And while it is very convincing that it can't be a coincidence that Shadow, Blaze, and Silver are all talking to each other at the end of generations, by that same logic, shouldn't miss "erotomaniac" Amy Rose be with Sonic for that same reason? Also, while Blaze may not belong in the future, she is undeniably there, and because Blaze never mentions it, nor does Silver know, it would imply that Blaze is hiding it from him, and if that were the case, would most likely be retreated from him as opposed to her behavior in the game. Also to use his DBZ argument against him, are you seriously trying to tell me, that Blaze is Bulma Briefs?! Really?! Because of all this I think Scourge's argument holds up better and to me it would make more sense for Silver to not be directly related to ANY character.

18:35 Shadow was just standing at the side trying to look cool. He wasn't even talking.

“The possibility of a hedgehog and a cat cross breeding is more than likely!” BIG. AND AMY.

Sonic and Amy... WHY DID I ALREADY KNOW

The next Sonic Theorist is out!: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xUDMvkWbNfM.html

Me: Hey Silver! Did you find out who your ancestors are? Silver: It's no use! WITH SHADOW : Shadow : Hey! Who said you can stop your working? Silver: But sir ! It's no use ! It took weeks to find the ancestors! Shadow: Damn that ancestors! Silver: Rr...Right ! Damn that ancestors!

I think Scorge is right. If a Sega worker says Shadow is not related to Silver, then Gamerguy's theory can't be right

RU-vidr: I have a question for your fans and Shadow! Is Silver The Hedgehog a Descendant of Shadow The Hedgehog? Takashi Iizuka: No That had me dying

The theory MONTHS in the making! Covering the mysteries behind Silver's bloodline in a special theory debate-style video featuring a veteran theorist GamerGuyd7Aces! So, who's side are you on? #TeamScourge or #TeamGamerGuyd? NOTE: Be sure to watch the entire video before making your decision! You can also vote via YT cards or take to social networks with #TeamScourge or #TeamGamerGuyd to show your support for your favourite! Also, definitely check the description for links to GamerGuy's channel and his own version of this video featuring HIS rebuttal to my theory! --- And thank you all so much for over 4K subs! I am The Sega Scourge - The Sonic Theorist, and I'll be bringing you more illuminating Sonic theories and discussions coming in the near-future!

Sadly it was said that shadow isn't the father of silver and or relative

Sorry Ace, but I have to give this to Scourge. Your theory just has too many loops, twists, turns, and holes. Scourge’s theory is more tied together, solid, understandable, backed up by more abundant and more probable evidence, and even by another one of his theories, which I also strongly believe. If we pay attention to Sonic 06, we see Blaze just normal, and by the end of it, she’s dead, and a fixed point in the time stream, whereas if an inter-dimensional being were to become a fixed being and point in existence outside of their own, especially being paired with the temporal irregularities dealing with Silver in general, that universe, and maybe a chunk of the multiverse, could’ve been catastrophically damaged, if not erased, leaving Silver even more alone than before, because of being alone in time, he’d be alone in the cosmos. Or if we’re going down that time sensitive rabbit hole, where Blaze from the future of her timeline was the same one in 06 and other Blaze is from before that, going along with Scourge’s non-linear timeline theory of his Metal Sonic video, then that’s even less sensible, given that’s two dimensions with basic aesthetic similarities that just so happen to both be non-linear in time stream structure, than we might as well assume there are five Silvers, like in Sonisis’ “Five Kings” comic. I think that even if the possibility of Shadow being related to him is even remotely true, it would be similar to the Fan Comic Universe by E-VAY, where there’s a combination between your two theories. And there are plenty of other possible variables to add in as well, like how Knuckles and Rouge likely have no genetic familiarity, same as Tails and Cream, and how other characters from the background, or even their children could’ve been brought into the family tree, thus altering his genetic makeup in ways we didn’t think of before, I think that we should focus on a point that was made before any of these. As Scourge stated, “Silver has become decoupled from the time stream, existing outside the correct flow of time”. Maybe we should also take into consideration of Aces’ relentless clinging to the point of hun being a Trunks doppelgänger. Scourge’s point leads me on to believe in the possibilities of two possible truths. 1. Silver has become a celestial or extraterrestrial to time and space itself. This could be further proven by Aces’ points on Shadow’s and Silver’s similarities, since if this were the truth, Silver would also be a supreme being as well, maybe even immortal, coupled with the fact that he was spliced from the flow of time. He would be able to go between timelines, dimensions, worlds, and maybe even galaxies, making him even more powerful, as well as more similar to Shadow. If this were the case, he would almost have no real relation to any mortal, or at least semi-normal being, given he would still have at least semi-stable existence outside of time and space from any one dimensional existence. 2. If Silver was meant to be a doppelgänger to Trunks, wouldn’t that mean that he would also be a part of a team tasked with bringing order to the flow of time, saving lives by altering time, not to mention by defeating great foes being responsible for such bleak results? 3. A bonus idea, being another combination between your two theories. What if he never truly existed in any dimension. What if he’s a pure godly being, meant for bringing order throughout the flow of time, and belongs in the greatest future he can create, thus making himself responsible for it, similar to that of the Greek Gods, like Poseidon’s responsibility for his domain, the sea. Only instead of the great depths of the ocean, Silver would be one responsible of the natural, orderly, and justly flow of timelines, or at least his own.

I didn't know we were talking about dragon ball xenoverce

Before Iizuka stepping in, I would've brought up a possibility that nobody has mentioned. Shadow is immortal, and we don't know exactly how long after the release of Iblis that Shadow was arrested and imprisoned. For all we know, Shadow could've gotten with one of Amy's descendants during the timeline. But thanks to Iizuka, that is no longer possible.

Blaze: I will be in Sonic Adventure 2. Shadow: Hold my beer.

I feel like scourge's theory is more likely, it just has more evidence to back it up

Jebus, I didn't know finding the ancestory of my favourite character took SO MUCH SCIENCE!

Shadow actualy has a sense of justice, he is not a vilain or a hero but an anti hero based on all the endings in "shadow the hedgehog"

I genuinely believe that Scourge is the one who has the more likely theory

Imo it’s almost impossible to find out who silvers real ancestors are since his bloodline has gone through many generations meaning there are definitely unknown characters in his bloodline with different traits.

gamerguyd7aces is incorrect. i mean izuka said shadow is not related to silver at all. its actually really bizzare why he looked over this obvious detail. but he probably did that just so he could keep the dragon ball mindset in his sonic videos.

The hair and eyes might come from another relative... if sonic and Amy were not the parents but much further down the genetic line, sonic and Amy's child might mate with a grey hedgehog or something like that

Its Sonic & Amy as Silvers Ancestors. That’s the most beautiful plausible.

Sonic married with Amy Shadow with someone else and their kids with each other and then their kids with Knuckle's and Rouge's grandchildren and then with someone outsider and they had a child as Silver and that is my theory and yeah Blaze is an outsider

When you mix BLACK and PURPLE you get WHITE.

but since its a 200 year gap between silver and the Canon characters, and if one of them is his ancestor, then wouldn't the breeding be a little different? there is no way they could be THAT closely related. Maybe silver's parents were dependents of sonic's, or any other canon characters grandaughters or grandsons. If they are his dependents, then there would have been more characters coming into a relationship. imagine it like a river... or a tree... or whatever. two branches join together to make a new branch. that branch comes together with a different one. This keeps going until they make a newer branch, which represents silver.

13:47 From what I'm hearing. Sonic's nearly unmatch speed, causes his own generation to gain enhancement to anyone of them, if they have any form of unique skills or capabilities like Amy's magic like skills, or Tails intellect and, well tails. Where Sonic's dna is an Evolution stone for any other dna that can get mix with it!? Then SNT from Courtney (ProjectSNT) is possible to exist, in a way. But since none (that I can remember) of the Sonic Cast of Characters have dive in to cloning, then it'll take some time for SNT to exist.

It would make more sense for it to be shadow and Amy or one of her descendants. Amy has psychic abilities in her bloodline, while Shadow has biological chaos energy manipulation/creation. Merge that together and you get someone with psychic energy manipulation and a natural affinity to chaos emeralds

Looking at the two theories, I personally think Scourge's makes more sense. Trying to argue that Shadow is related to Silver, despite Iizuka saying otherwise baffles me. I would think the guy who has creative say in the Sonic series is more credible than any of us. If the creator says something about the series he works on, then it's 100% fact. I'd be like trying to theorize what Nazo was going to be in Sonic X, despite Iizuka confirming that Nazo was just going to be how Super Sonic would look in X. Blaze being a decedent of Silver seems much more likely, and I'm torn as to if Amy or Blaze makes more sense. Perhaps Blaze and Sonic are Silver's decedents? The reason I bring that up is because of Sonic and Amy's relationship in the games. Amy may like Sonic, but Sonic has shown little to no interest in Amy (not counting the Boom series of course). Contrast this with how Sonic and Blaze have interacted in the past in games like Rush and Rush Adventure. I wouldn't say Sonic and Blaze have shown intimate feeling for one another, but they get along fine after their fight in Rush. They're both friendly to one another, and they even respect each other. The main two issues with my theory are that; one, Sonic and Blaze live in different dimensions, so how could they possibly start a relationship like that, and two, how does Silver inherit psychokinetic powers when Sonic has super speed, and Blaze has pyrokinetic powers? Either way, Scourge's makes the most sense to me. Sonic is the only logical choice for the male if Shadow has been deconfirmed, and Amy makes enough sense to me as the female choice, especially given her interest in tarot cards. Again, I think GG has a point with Blaze, but saying that Shadow and Blaze are Silver's parents, not even just his decedents, but his mother and father, just doesn't make sense to me.

I'm a nuetral in terms of theory, but as an argument, I'm sticking with Scourge, I guess, because there are some things I feel needed to be mentioned about GG'x theory. (Opinion) -Blaze and Shadow 1) You mentioned that they share personalities, yet I don't see how it would connect. Note:(I'll also show why I think referencing the games and the mix of referencing the archie comics isn't all that compatible.) Shadow protects the Earth by one common thing we Sonic fans know: Maria. Blaze's duty is being the Guardian of the Sol Emeralds. How exactly does just having similar personalities just make it likely for them to just get together? Ex. You tried using DBZ as an analogy of Shadow/Vegeta = Silver/Trunks, yet Vegeta and Bulma doesn't have a lot in common at all, in my opinion, but they do have cooperation. Your way of explaining that debunked that point by both logical and technical. Also, Blaze/Bulma?! I think NOT! Cooperation IS, however, a point I can see where you're going with. Which leads me into another question. 2) How exactly would Silver exist? Blaze and Shadow are of 2 beings from 2 different dimensions. Silver is ONLY in one dimension in Sonic 06, if not as a whole. Which brings me to SEGA's decision making. Unfortunately, because of how the games differ overtime, it makes it less and less solid to how the things you mentioned makes sense. For instance, Sonic Rush was her first debut in a Sonic game, where she is looking for the Sol Emeralds, yet in Sonic 06, those emeralds are pretty much "I've NEVER heard of those! What are they?" in terms of relevance to her character. Off the bat, this is not solid at all, because she is "Guardian" of the Sol Emeralds. The fact that's even present without a single Sol Emerald present has me puzzled as hell. And that's not even mentioning that if we were to use 06 as canon, she was eradicated when sealing off Iblis, pretty much ceasing to exist! And that begs the question, what would happen to the Sol Emeralds? Because in the Archie Comics, she herself revealed she was connected to the Sol Emeralds (and I believe it was Fang that she ignited while mentioning this.). Oh but wait, they don't exist in 06. So 06 isn't a solid source, for you, unfortunately, because Blazes character alone is in a mess between these games, thus splitting her character (involvment with the Sol Emeralds) in 2 already. So going back to how she's connected with the Sol Emeralds, how would that affect Silver? If she's connected to these things in another dimension, Silver would be f*cked, because he would be that "one" character, inherently multi-dimensional, which would have to have some kind of effect on him, must I say if he's connected to the Sol Emeralds as well. If not, then Silver would be safe in terms of Sol Emeralds, but not reality. (And before someone rambles on how the future Trunks of DBS is from another dimension and time and he's okay, Trunks was born IN THAT DIMENSION, whereas Silver has one from one dimension to another from another dimension.) Now let's get to Shadow. Shadow is a Black-Arm Hedgehog. Going back to the Archie comics, there was not one panel of where a Black-Arm was not black. Silver is gray, a Light gray at that. "They both have chest hair." No matter how similar they are, chest hair (Shadow) and fur coat (Silver) are 2 different things. Shadow harnesses Chaos energy, so it's no wonder why he's a pro at doing stuff like that. Does Silver harness Chaos energy or telekinesis? Can't be both. "Silver can use Chaos Control!" And Sonic can't? And finally.... 3) Genetics In my eyes, it quite foolish to put 2 and 2 together if those 2s are even going to be a one that doesn't cover all of the details. Pyrokenesis + Choas Energy = Telekinesis? I don't think so. I had a speculation of how Shadow teleports in 06 without the use of a Chaos Emerald, in which my theory was that he's so used in Chaos energy, he doesn't need an Emerald to use it. However, this is a talent from the mastery of Chaos energy. Except 06 has not confirmed that, but it can still be seen that way, so by speculation, Silver could be empowered by Chaos Energy. That still wouldn't explain where would the "Pyro" go. Unless Silver would be unaffected by the Sol Emeralds, this couldn't work out to be telekinesis, regardless be cause manipulation of fire would've been his specialty, plus Iblis refused him as host, so Pyro is out of the question for sure. In conclusion, Shadow is the closest out of the 2 to be related to Silver, but Blaze's complexity pretty much seals the deal. *whew* That was a lot.

I like Scourge’s theory a little more because to me it makes a bit more sense. Good job to both of you!

Sonic and Amy one makes way more sense than any other theory

#TeamScourge. Sorry, but a lot of GamerGuyd's examples and references he cites as evidence don't really seem to be based on any provable facts. I can't find ANYWHERE where it's said that Blaze was confirmed to be in development in SA2, let alone before Shadow's inception, and I also can not find anything that supports his claim that Sega confirmed that Shadow remembered the events of Sonic 2006 as well. As far as what what Sega, Sonic Team, and Iizuka have legitimately told us, Blaze was only thought up for Sonic Rush and Sonic is the only character who truly remembers the events of Sonic 2006 in at least a partial amount, and even then it seems to be very selective memory as he doesn't even recognize Silver when they encounter in Sonic Rivals 1. Not to mention that Guyd blatantly ignored the fact that Shadow was confirmed by the director of the series to not be related to Silver in any way. In fact it's noteworthy to point out that while Scourge is backing up most of his hypothesis with material from the games and real life statements from the creative minds behind the series, Guyd supports most of his hypothesis with spin-off media like the comics and even just pure speculation on things that still could be labeled as coincidence (Sonic is not like Kingdom Hearts or Final Fantasy, not every little thing we see is something explicitly placed there to hint at some kind of lore-building). I'm not saying that the spin-off media is any lesser than the main game series, but it's in it's very nature to be a separate continuity, you don't see the Freedom Fighters or any of Archie Sonic's numerous other villains inhabiting the game series that it's based off of. The comic series is essentially a much more complex, intricate, and more carefully thought out version of the game series' lore and timeline, essentially a "what if these games had more characters and story in them" kind of universe. Sometimes spin-off media can influence certain aspects of the main series it's based off of going forward, but historically the game series has never tried to directly match the lore the comics have been building up (mostly out of creative differences and a fear of potential lawsuits, as Sonic Chronicles shows). So to bring it back into perspective, to speculate that Shadow and Blaze would be the ones to directly conceive Silver based on only a few times they've interacted with each other in a comic series that exists within it's own canon despite no direct explicit signs of anything similar happening in the game series' own canon is not as factual as you would try to paint it as. At the very least he admitted that his "time difference between dimensions" scenario was completely hypothetical, but that just makes the whole argument even more reliant on pure speculation than actually confirmed and verified facts and observations with SOME reigned in speculation that still adheres to what's been directly confirmed. With all this in mind, I found Sourge's argument to be much more believable and reasonable in thinking, filling in holes with with ideas that actually work while still sticking to what has been confirmed rather than just ignoring them altogether and looking towards almost irrelevant material as backup.

Even though I agree with neither of you, I believe your theory is more believable, SegaScourge

Gamerguy’s theory requires a lot of uncertain assumptions. There is nothing that would lead us to believe that time moves differently in Blaze’s dimension.

I think Shadow and Blaze are Silvers ancestors. Shadow can live for ever

ITS NO USSSSSSE

Glad you all enjoyed the Silver theory, the next Sonic Theorist episode is already in production; so don't you worry!

Ok, I get both sides of the argument, and while I haven't been as active in the Sonic fan community as I once was, I personally do think that Scourge's theory is more plausible than GamerGuyd's. The Archie Comics might not be considered canon anymore, and it feels more likely for Amy to be his ancestor based on all the psychic links. However, I will agree in some spots with Gamer in that some species don't necessarily have to be the same in Sonic's world to get the same offspring and the Dragon Ball connections do seem very strong with Shadow and Silver being parallels to Vegeta and Future Trunks. Personally, I'm a Sonaze shipper and don't fully agree with both of these theories, but if I had to give one of you the win, I'd still vote for Scourge's theory. Good friendly debate, though. Both of you. Keep it clean, fellas.

18:33 if this becomes canon does that mean people are shipping silver to his mother?

what if silvers parents aren't people from the game yet and some one from a futuer game

I get that Iizuka deconfirming Shadow from being an ancestor would be enough to throw him out of the equation, but I find this reason rather weak. Thing is, someone only bothered to ask him about Shadow. I'm willing to bet that if someone asked the same question but threw in Sonic, Amy, or Blaze instead, the answer will remain the same for each one. Now, why is that? Well, despite Silver no longer being a more prominent character in the franchise, doing something like confirming his heritage through an email would be quite the heavy confirmation for a series that barely have a plot that spans over 1 game. I believe Iizuka said no because Silver's heritage was never a consideration during and after the making of Sonic 06. Not to mention 06 did next to nothing to even hint a possibility that Silver was in any way related to any of the other characters. Compare this to DMC4 where there were many implications that led us to believe that Nero is Vergil's son. With that in mind, I'd say that none of these characters are Silver ancestors because it doesn't even matter. ... But to have fun with this discussion and since I'm willing to throw Iizuka's statement out the window, I'm going to say that Shadow is the "father" of Silver. Now I'm not going to use Gamerguyd's dbz logic (or anything he said for that matter) since that have no bearings whatsoever. I'm also going to throw Scourge's comment on Sonic shaving his chest out since I firmly believe in what you see is what you get and what you see in both Shadow and Silver are large amounts of chest hair as well as what seems to be eyeliner of some sort. Appearance aside, both seem to possess psychic powers but in a different sense. Now I don't know shit about genetics, but using Scourge's logic here, it would seem ideal that the psychic abilities carried by Shadow are easier to pass down when his genes are mixed with someone who shares a similarity. Since Scourge say that Amy has some sort of psychic abilities of her own, it would make sense that their common attribute would be the definite trait to pass on to their young one. On the other hand, with Blaze's pyrokinetic skills being so advanced, that trait would be a way more dominant gene to pass on to each generation as opposed to Amy who pales in comparisons. I can't say for sure on who it likely is between the two, but I can easily say that Shadow holds more ground than the two of them. Now how either of them formed a relationship with Shadow is anyone's guess. If it's Amy, she could have given up on her pursuit of Sonic and formed a bond with Shadow. He doesn't seem to hate Amy in comic or game, especially after she helped trigger a memory of Maria during SA2. He could have a soft spot for her after that and it's not like Amy shows any ill will towards him. Now with Blaze, they seem to get along in the comics. Hell, Shadow took her side over his comrade, Rouge. Who to say their next meetup may further develop their friendship to something more. TL;DR version: Don't harp over what Iizuka said. Just because he deconfirmed Shadow doesn't mean he confirmed anyone else. As far as we know, none of these characters share the same blood with Silver.

I have a better theory: sliver doesn't have any parents since because of the timeline changing, they were erased. (that and I think it's just better if sliver wasn't related to any of the main cast.)

12:28 so boom sonic just doesn’t shave? Explains a lot.

Great theory. In regards to the brief debate about how Silver's fur colour could not come from Sonic and Amy's heritage, it's also important to remember Silver came from a future where the world was clouded in fire and smog for decades/centuries. Lack of exposure to the sun over generations would no doubt cause the fur to lose pigment.

I think it's more likely that Silver was not conceived naturally, changing several characteristics in his DNA as a result. My theory is that Sonic had realized that Iblis couldn't be physically killed, and the only possible vessel had already died. Sonic, having realized that, knew that they couldn't possibly win. Desperate to buy time, Sonic confesses hidden feelings to Amy, before using Chaos Control to conceive Silver, (which would distort the genetic outcome somewhat) and again to send her into the future. He then orders the Emeralds to auto-scatter whenever a group of 3 or more is brought together. This prevents Mephiles from ever collecting them all, and he retaliates viciously, ending Sonic's life. Knuckles, seeing it happen through the ME, quickly orders it to lock itself down and ignore any further wishes/prayers, even from himself. Mephiles goes to Angel Island, and Knuckles taunts him with what he has done. Mephiles promptly murders him brutally, shatters the Master Emerald, and destroys Angel Island out of sheer fury, for a hero foiling him yet again. He then goes on to kill off the rest of the Sonic Heroes, leaving the people defenseless. 200 years later, a grief-stricken, pregnant Amy arrives in Crisis City, and is found by refugees fleeing Iblis and its monsters. In exchange for a place among them, she agrees to help protect them from harm. A couple years later, Amy is killed in battle, leaving the refugees to raise Silver. However, by this point, most of them are also dead. Silver grows up virtually alone, but the few things he was taught included morals and justice. He discovered his PK abilities at a young age, and worked to master them as best he could. At some point, his future is merged with the Sol Dimension somehow, (this is canon, btw) and he meets Blaze. This eventually leads to Silver's story in Sonic 06. It is believed that the Mobian characters all remember the "Solaris Paradox", especially the hedgehogs. But none of the humans do, which explains why Eggman and Elise have no memory of the incident. From there, life goes on: with the Sol Dimension separated from the future by Solaris' death, Silver and Blaze part ways, much less tragically than before. Since no one knew who his parents were that he could talk to, he simply never found out. Unless he decided to send in his DNA to be compared to others in a lab, and the results came up Sonamy, of course, lol. But that's just my personal theory. Sorry, I know it's long, but I was being thorough.

I liked the theories and they make a lot of sense. But Silver seeing this will be like WTF is that for sure he doesn't even know who created it.

I still think Shadow is somehow related to Silver either he's his grandfather or actually father

I'm surprised you didn't just bring up passive genes again for the chest hair thing; that would've been simpler. But hey, trimming the *hedge* works, too. (pun intended) Also, Silver's animated intro made me feel like I was watching Sonic Shorts again. Good times.

"Silver parents could be Shadow and Amy" me: Oh boy here we go again "The father could be Shadow and the mother could be Blaze" me: YEah Boiii!!!

While I do think GG7A has strong points, Scourge's theory seems to make the most sense in my professional opinion.

Has anyone considered that maybe Silver was created in a lab and not born conventionally?

Maybe Sonic and Amy are Silver's parents, maybe someone who knew about Silvers abilities, and took him from Sonic and Amy when he was an infant, and into the future to be raised, and to defend the future from Iblis

Or Silver could just be a random guy from random parents :^)

When he said Blaze could be the FeMaLe- Me: Isn't she like, Silver's age? 😶

I have a crazy theory: Sonic, Shadow and Silver are actually brothers sent from another world similiar to Mobius and separated to different timelines. Example "why" is: 1. All of them know Chaos Control 2. They only with super mode 3. They are similiar lookalike (since Amy was capable mistake both Shadow and Silver with Sonic despite her ESP) 4. They're only equally powerfull beings with sense of justice. Which means Takashi Iizuka pulling our legs and doesn't know or he knows and trying to mislead us about this just like certain games we know. So... what do tou think?

the second guys theory was by far the most idiotic

Never have I witness a Cat making a baby with a Hedgehog before.

Well Sonic and Amy even shadow are the hedgehog family Timeline even know Silver is 200 years shadow 50 years for Sonic and Amy probably 16 years silver has telekinesis that evolves related to Sonic abilities on silver it gives incredible power from flight only not ground either way.

Honeatly, there are parts to both that I like. What Scourge said about recessive genes does answer the question of the lack of speed. However, I like the existential nature of GamerGuyd7Aces theory, as it leads to a really epic tale and happy ending for two characters I love. Ultimately though, I'm going with The Sega Scourge though. His I feel is honestly a bit more grounded in reality, and while I love existential concepts, I also like seeing things from a grounded POV. So sorry other guy if you are still watching this. I'm going with the Sega Scourge. True story, it's this video that got me to subscribe. Take that for what you will.

"Shadow's eyes are red and Amy's are green and when you mix those color you get yellow" Yeah but...Sonic's eyes are green too so...Oh god please no

DO A SCOURGE THE HEDGEHOG THEORIES PLEASE

Scourge's theory sounds more legitimate to me do to the use of genetics.

I'm sure Silver's Psychokinesis is thanks to a mix of training and the gold bracelets that probably augment his abilities. I think Sega should incorporate more hedgehog characters, or at least someone who has some similarity with him.

I was thinking of Sonic and Blaze to end up together. Well,because look at different times they interacted. It's more belivable.

while both made good claims i feel like 1 was quite a bit more stronger so im #TeamScourge

This is all very tantalizing but I think despite the limited amount of anthropomorphic characters sega has came up with, the world is supposed to be inhabited by many different anthropomorphic animals that just havent come up in the games. I think that for a character that comes from an alternate timeline in a distant future, as boring as it sounds it is entirely possible that silver is not related to any one of them.

I agree with Scourge's theory more to be honest, he takes into account that the characters can't be directly related to silver due to the fact silver was born hundreds of years into the future. That and Sonamy is most possibly cannon. Though personally if it were up to me... I'd try doing a different backstory for Silver to make his connection to Blaze stronger, but the way I have it, he isn't from the future, or related to any other characters at all.

when you said sonic doesn't let his hair grow he probly let it grow in boom which explains his arms and hair

I knew you’d put a “It’s no use” meme in here

It still baffles me all the insistence at looking at what traits two possible parents might pass to their direct offspring (like, say, Sonic and Amy having green eyes while Silver has yellow) as if that was an issue.... like, c'mon guys, we've already established this would be over multiple generations. It doesn't MATTER what these two ancestors of Silver look like, because he'd have dozens (if not hundreds) of other ancestors with different traits and physical characteristics as well. Let's imagine that each of Silver's ancestors in Sonic's time period had a child at the age of 25, and that each of those descendants would also have children at 25, etc. In order to reach 200 years later and get to Silver, counting Sonic (or whoever) as 'generation 0', Silver would be generation *8,* meaning he'd have approximately *256* ancestors in Sonic's time period alone. The notion that only TWO of those 256 ancestors would be responsible for the majority of Silver's appearance and abilities is, simply, absurd! For all we know, characters like *Espio* could be one of Silver's ancestors from the cast we know - all his other attributes like his ESP, white fur, yellow eyes, and status as a hedgehog, could easily have come from his hundreds of other ancestors that would eventually cross paths into what would eventually become Silver's bloodline.

Both theories are good but Scourge's holds up a lot more especailly since he brought up Sonic's creator saying that Shadow isn't related to Silver; which completely throws out GG's theory entirely

It is actually said that silver is.... Shadows son..... (at least in the comics) Can you see the parallels to Dragonball Z?

it's hard to say who i most believed ... Scourge was more "cientifically" correct but GamerGuy was more... "logical" correct IDK ;-;

Sonic and Amy give birth to a hedgehog that hedgehog marries a female hedgehog They both have a child and that child marries a white female hedgehog with fur on chest. Hence Silver was born afterwards. So sonic can be his ancestor.

I think Silver was adopted by Shadow and Blaze