The Specter S - One Ebike to rule them all? 

I agree it's the same frame. Eunorau is owned by a frame company which supplies other bike builders. I considered the Juggernaut but chose the Specter S because of the components and higher weight capacity.

How do you like it? Considering one for hunting, similar to the backou mule step thru.

@@anthonymonte4885 I am done with buying ebikes online.

What happened?

@@onat3095 If you can't test ride the bike before you buy it. Don't buy it.

I rather compare it to Eunorau fat-hs as you can add the dual 17ah batteries and fender kit as it's still under $4k.

@@Bigdog1787 When I looked it seems that the Fat-HS is a similar concept but made with less expensive components. I think the Specter S and the FS Pro 3 are probably more comparable given the components they use (SRAM derailleur, Tektro brakes, inverted forks, etc.). The Fat-HS is no doubt a fine ebike, but the economy components put it in a different performance class.

@@JethroXP there are also e-cells super monarch bikes this one costs more though, but it's dual motor and dual battery and you can turn off one motor at any time.

@@Bigdog1787 Well yeah, there are lots of other bikes out there ;-) The dual hub drive monarch is kind of a different thing. I was just noticing that the Specter S seems awfully similar to the Biktrix Juggernaut Ultra FS Pro 3.

The FS Pro 3 has 52V Batts the Spector S has 48V

Most of what you say is true - it's heavy and lighter EMTB will absolutely be better. I would have to disagree on the "low power" statement. Most people find over 1,000 watts to be more than sufficient.

How does it compare to the wattswagon hydra?

@@Area13ebikes My bad, I didn't even process it was a 1000w bike. 1000w is more than enough for most people. If you haven't you should do a review on a bike like the luna Z-1 if you ever got the chance and compare the two. I'd love to see your opinions on the two and what you like about each.

@@michelleevans9869 Well, Would you look at that. I've learned something today, The Wattswagon Hydra is the same frame and motor as the Z-1. I didn't catch that the first time around. I'll have to reach out and see if I can snag one of the hydras to really compare the two.

​@@michelleevans9869 Just looking at the Wattswagon Hydra I'd say I would take the Z-1 over it. Now I've never ridden one and would love to try one but looking at the specs. It's not promising. So if we are talking stock, both bikes have lots of ground to cover before they are beasts on the trail. For most people, either bike would be just fine but to a more advanced or hardcore rider there would need to be some upgrades. Now assuming not everyone is like me and likes top of the line stuff. I'll compare the two bikes in stock form just from a spec standpoint. The Hydra comes with a nicer set of brakes. I'll be honest though, The Sram guide r that comes on the Luna is more than enough. The bite of the Magura's is much cleaner. Both are 4 pot hydraulic brakes and will both do pretty well on a trail. The suspension is what really gets me. The pike on the Luna really blows the SunTour and Manitou out of the water. I've ridden most forks that exists and Luna most definitely takes it with the fork. The rear shock on the Hydra takes the win here. The Dvo Topaz HV is a really nice shock. It did take some digging to figure out that was what was on that bike. The deluxe select on the Luna isn't the best shock. I personally upgraded to the RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate RC2T for around the same price as the Dvo and I personally like it much better. The Microshift on the Hyrdra isn't my favorite drivetrain but neither is the Sram SX on the Luna. With a simple upgrade of the rear derailleur to a Sram GX I personally believe that is does much better than the Microshift. The dropper post on both of the bikes aren't th best but do the job. I don't have any complaints from either of them or think one is better. The rest of the bike (Like the cockpit and comfort things like grips and pedals) I won't compare as those are cheap parts and are all down to rider preference. I think you get much more bike for you buck from the Luna Z-1 but neither bike is a bad option. Respectivly priced as 4500 for the Z-1 and 6500 for the Hydra. The bikes are so similar it's almost all personal preference.

This will work great as a first and last ebike. :) Always look for the checkmark next to the username! No checkmark means it's a scammer.

@@Area13ebikes Thanks for that insight in the check mark. I did not know this. So helping with a ebike and youtube. Lol. BTW will this work well in the cold? I watched a video of a guy who rode his surron and it caught fire on his first ride. I thought it may have to do with the cold weather on the batteries. I am in south Dakota and want to use it hunting coyotes year round even in deep snow. Just checking with you. Thanks for the reply again.

@@christopherverbeck7469 I would recommend an insulated wrap of some sort in cold SD weather. Keep the battery inside at room temp until you're ready to go.

Not true. I own the Biktrix FS Pro 3 with is basically identical to this bike. I travel with it a lot. I use the Hollywood Destination E rack, which supports the weight just fine, and includes a ramp for loading and unloading, making it very easy.

My guess is that if you were making a left turn you would be okay. The officer stating "if you go straight" (continue in left lane) you would be in Violation of the RCW.

Really? I'd honestly have to really disagree with you. I'm a smaller guy, I'll be honest. I'm 5,4 180 lbs and I ride a large Luna Z1 which is a very similar bike. I ride that bike and throw is around similar to how I throw around my enduro bike.

@@lyamcross6734 it's the exact same "bike" it's a dengfu frame. I cannot wheelie this bike naturally...it's much too heavy for me to get up let alone try and keep up. I was just riding it today and it was so fun but it's not like a normal mountain bike atleast not to me. It feels nimble but it's just soooo heavy. I love it for little jumps and everything but I personally wouldn't wanna ride it on anything technical.

@@lyamcross6734 I'm 5 foot 7 or so and about 170 right now due to winter weight 😭 do you have a small Luna? Maybe that's it. I actually prefer smaller bikes and I made the mistake of buying my hydra in a medium when I really should have gotten a small. It feels fine but I have absolutely no use for the dropper post.

@@ToadallyMemes Yep, I believe it’s the dengfu e22. They do have different components and suspension. I won’t say this will always change a bike but the difference between the Z1 and The Hydras suspension is enough I believe they ride be try differently. Now I won’t say this is a fact as I’ve never ridden a hydra. Also, yes my Luna is a large. I prefer bigger bikes depending on how I use it. I rip up and down my local trails where most of my rides range from harder blues to double blacks.

@@ToadallyMemes I personally can’t wheelie my Luna for long period but I can for short moments and another friend of mine likes to rip around on my Luna without putting the front wheel down. I think it’s just learning throttle control or perfecting the pressure behind your pedaling on that torque sensor.

Gee, I enjoy listening to Kyle BECAUSE of the way he speaks!

@@brucewilson1590 I listen to him for information.

I don't think you understand how the batteries work. They are not in parallel. Only one is active at any given time. There is an additional controller circuit that monitors the charge of both, and when the active battery gets in the range of 5-10% lower than the standby, it will dynamically swap the load. You don't notice it unless you are really paying close attention to your display in which case you will see the reported voltage (or percentage) go up when the swap happens. This gives the previously active battery time to cool and refresh a bit, extending the overall range. Point being though, only one battery is actively carrying a load at any given moment and the batteries never interact.