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You didn't misread the title - "The Speed of Light" should really be called "The Speed of Causality"!
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Professor Sean Carroll dives into why "The Speed of Light" has stuck around for so long when it should really be called "The Speed of Causality", why we use meters and seconds when measuring the speed of light, and much more!
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@nfineon
@nfineon 10 месяцев назад
Space Time Limit (STL) is a more encompassing term than C (speed of light) that I use in my own works, as it relates to a more fundamental relationship from which the velocity measure of light is derived: Velocity = distance / time the limit of that ratio is the limit of spacetime itself, more fundamental.
@donald-parker
@donald-parker 3 года назад
I think his answer to "why is the speed of light xxx m/s" missed the point. Its not about units of measurement. I could express it as furlongs per fortnight, but the speed would be the same. I think the root of the question is really why is the speed of causality what it is? why could it not be faster. Or slower. Or variable. What is the underlying fundamental thing about nature that makes this constant? And while we are at it ... I tend to think of the concept of "speed" as being an emergent concept and the concepts of distance and time as each being more fundamental. Is this wrong? Is speed fundamental and time and distance emergent concepts?
@winkywacky6173
@winkywacky6173 3 года назад
Having just seen your comment, I wanna refer you to mine on this same video, and also to my RU-vid channel (WinkyWacky channel). In particular, view the video titled , Ten to the 43rd Worlds per Second. Comment please, if you survive that!
@Iceman-gm1fu
@Iceman-gm1fu 3 года назад
agree. sean is annoying af, doesn't answer anything. I liked this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FSEJ4YLXtt8.html
@salpatalano2306
@salpatalano2306 2 года назад
@@Iceman-gm1fu Sean thinks, and wants us to think, he is a lot smarter than he is…..I saw through this a looooooong time ago…
@lahaina4791
@lahaina4791 Год назад
The "Tao of Physics" tackles this question. It calls it the treadmill of space in which ever changing polarity cells of space allow movement. A larger cell travel through less space but more time, therefore spacetime.
@pierfrancescopeperoni
@pierfrancescopeperoni 20 дней назад
That question can be interpreted in 2 different ways. 1) what if speed of light was different? If speed of light was different all other speeds would be different, and so would be the machinery of our measurement devices, so they wouldn't detect any difference anyway. Here enters the idea of relativity: it has no physical meaning to assign a reality to non measurable things, such as an absolute speed of light. So the question is: 2) what if we measured a different speed of light? Atoms would be measured larger or smaller, days would appear to be last longer or shorter, turtles would move faster... Well turtles couldn't exist in such a universe, not even days, nor atoms. All things which are inconsistent with our existence would happen. The structure of the universe would be different, not allowing the existence of atoms or matter. So we can't measure a different speed in Lorentzian coordinates. At least locally. Nothing forbids to map a different speed of light, moving in distant spacetime, in a local Lorentz frame, since it wouldn't affect you, being interaction (or measurement) local. But that becomes a matter of choice of coordinates. If you map universe expansion in your frame, you would describe light over there to move faster than light over here. But you would see those observers, dragged by the expansion, drawing a different map where speed of light there is still c, and they would see you instead grabbed by expansion. The operation for which you measured more than c in that region is the directional derivative: you projected your local grid over there. But if you want to know what the other observer is measuring you must use their spacetime grid, so you must take the covariant derivative, and you'll get c. So c is invariant only in local Lorentz frames, and its measured value tells you how the universe looks in the neighborhood of the device. In regions where it would be measured differently, probably there couldn't even be a measurement device. I would say that space and time are emergent concepts, and so is speed. They're part of our language to describe the events, what happens in the universe. The fundamental is "what happens": did the photon hit the detector? Did his device read the value c? All these things should, by consistency, happen independently on the coordinates you use to describe them.
@epistemologicaldespair68
@epistemologicaldespair68 2 года назад
The people saying Sean didn't answer the question are entirely missing that he shows (as Einstein showed) that its a poorly asked question, that doesn't have one finite answer. Speed is an approximation which is relative to other objects.
@Flaystray
@Flaystray 2 года назад
I think you're a little far away from the rest of your bible daycare daycare class here
@epistemologicaldespair68
@epistemologicaldespair68 2 года назад
@@Flaystray Can’t tell if that’s a knock to me or the general populace of the comment section haha
@cellotron4758
@cellotron4758 2 года назад
i thought the question was asking why there would be, in the first place, some kind of limiting speed in the universe and why it happens to be the speed that massless objects travel.
@lahaina4791
@lahaina4791 Год назад
They are a little slow 😃
@Hankblue
@Hankblue Год назад
@@cellotron4758 Well one answer would be because if there were not a limiting speed, the ecosystem that we call 'the universe' wouldn't be coherent. If the speed of gravitational waves and other massless forces were instantaneous, the universe could not exist. It would mean that the 'c' in 'E = mc2' signifies infinity, which would mean any tiny piece of matter could be converted into infinite energy.
@ronhoffman2405
@ronhoffman2405 2 года назад
Question: If gravity acts on light such that it removes energy from the photon or wave energy as E=h(nu) and therefore the wavelength increases as light passes by mass, Can red shift be caused by photons (light) passing enormous amounts of mass in the universe? When light passes through glass or clear water, can we measure the loss of energy (wavelength increase) from the emerging light after it has passed through a transparent mass?
@peterdoering5496
@peterdoering5496 Год назад
What is the length of a photon? If a photon leaves the sun and travels 93,000,000 miles to earth and hits a detector in a telescope is the length of that photon 93,000,000 miles? Or is it the distance between the electron shells of the atom that emitted it - i. e. picometers? Also, radio waves can have wave lengths of many meters so does that mean that a photon of a radio wave can be kilometers long? Thank you.
@DABmonger
@DABmonger 7 месяцев назад
Forget units, why is the speed of light what it is, ie why is it not faster or slower than what it is?
@stephendavis7112
@stephendavis7112 3 года назад
Why is the speed of causality not faster or slower than it is?
@Allergyh
@Allergyh 3 года назад
What is the effect of our motion in space (earth/solar system/galaxies...) on the time we experience, that is are we experiencing any time dilation and how would it be relative to completely stationary point of reference
@md.fazlulkarim6480
@md.fazlulkarim6480 3 года назад
But how the twin back to his brother's present? He should be back to his brothers past because of lesser time lapses for travelling. So all points of this Universe with its contents are always at it's present irrespective of different time flow rate. Please reply Mr Sean Carroll.
@elmerfudd5650
@elmerfudd5650 3 года назад
So, we are traveling at the speed of light, and everything else is traveling slower, and that is why we can see/detect it? Interesting concept... It reminds me of the Twilight Zone movie where the guy breaks his time stopping watch.
@gshock200
@gshock200 2 года назад
Thank you for your work. I'm so happy to have found your channel.
@ThinkInc
@ThinkInc 2 года назад
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@wearemany73
@wearemany73 Год назад
As you push the back of the cue to strike the cue ball, the cue tip moves at a later point in time. 🙂
@new-knowledge8040
@new-knowledge8040 3 года назад
Today, it is common for people to jump to conclusions, faster than the speed of light.
@nafnist
@nafnist 3 года назад
And make clickbait faster than the speed of light
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 3 года назад
Yes & a big leap of faith that Sean Carroll makes is that we haven't found anything that travels faster than c, therefore c = the speed of causality itself. The big weakness in his argument is that 95% of the universe: we don't know wtf it is.
@ryhk3293
@ryhk3293 3 года назад
@@alwaysdisputin9930 no, it's not a big leap of faith. It's actually a very simple prediction based on a vast body of knowledge. The sum total of all humans know to be true, actually.
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 3 года назад
@@ryhk3293 If you were right then you'd be able to say the proof that c = the speed of causality. But you can't. You can't even point to a video or book etc that proves it. There's a PBS video that says 'we're going to prove it right now' but they don't. There's no proof anywhere. It requires blind faith
@carlosgaspar8447
@carlosgaspar8447 2 года назад
that's what i thought.
@KaliFissure
@KaliFissure 2 года назад
the speed of light is one Planck length (local) per Planck rotation. c should be remembered this way or as a specific number of Planck lengths per unit local time.
@glazzarus
@glazzarus 2 года назад
We are pron to various beliefs. Like "Energy is ability to the work" , E=mc sq. , and so on. What will be if m=E/c ????. Photon is not particle it is a wave. Why we believe that atoms are made of particles, what if these "particles" are standing waves. Why all physic is based on "simplified" Maxwell equation system, that is reduced from 4 dimensional field model to 2 sets of linked 3 dimensional fields???? .
@designsbyphilip510
@designsbyphilip510 2 года назад
My question is this. If a photon travels at the speed of light, and time dilation occurs as you approach the speed of light to the point time stands still at the speed of light relatively speaking. Wouldnt photons (particle or wave) stop from our point of view, and the world would go dark? It is a serious question I have wrestling with.
@radinelaj3932
@radinelaj3932 3 года назад
I think : Mechanics( quantum) of light : The light is the limit(the border,of things,the edge of the matter) Over the limit are no more things,( there is no matter anymore ) If you want to pass( break, to outrun ) the limit, you should use : not matter anymore, ( not particles anymore) (Light speed ) It can't be reached with mechanical movement( mechanical particles movement). Mechanical movement( motion) is for things under the light's limit,( things with mass, volume etc... For matter,)light is the "wall"( limit) between matter and " No matter " . Don't waste time to break( to outrun) the light's limit with particles ( like neutrino, tachyon etc..) In this state( situation) you don't have to do with particles , because you want to go over( beyond ) the light ( over the particles) therefore is wasting of time . Another parallel thought : The possible outcome : C= constant means : The light doesn't move,( doesn't travel ) The photons doesn't move, therefore ( speed of) light is constant, because they don't move , is just as to turn the page, light just display it( unveils it) , but doesn't move ( doesn't travel) The book 91:3 This is a new point of view So you should make another math system, another physical system ( over{ beyond} the matter) , should find new sources . If you will approach to the limit( to the border), the limit doesn't have sense anymore, if you pass the limit, the things will change, the system doesn't work anymore, a new system will be applied( will be working) , for example : if you want to become smaller and smaller and smaller , until you become a string, that is the edge, there is nothing beyond it, if you want to go beyond it, you should leave the entire system, and take a new( different) system . It is like to travel with a car, you can travel with the car until in front of you there is the sea, now you should leave the car and take a new vehicle ( a ship) , because the car doesn't work beyond the edge ( beyond the limit ,the land ), there is different environment beyond the land, the car doesn't work there, same is your system, you want to go there but your system doesn't work there, need a new system, new variables, "new tools "... 🦩
@ace6396
@ace6396 3 года назад
Since photons do not experience time, it does not motion. This statement does not mean it does not exhibit motion. Experience is perceptual, that's where relativity kicks in, which shows its total energy is equal in all reference frames. Conservation of energy in negligible time translation invariance is what matters. If we takes into consideration inflation theory, energy is conserved even in time translation variance. Analogies are good for building interests but can lead to flawed conclusions.
@christine2100
@christine2100 Год назад
At "akademie olympia 2.0" unconventional, innovative and, above all, correct predictions were made in April 2022 under "Aktuelles" about the partly ancient galaxies in James Webb's first images. It`s a new theory behind. According to this, the universe is much older than assumed. There is also a video on this platform, in wich he shows a new interpretation of "c".
@salpatalano2306
@salpatalano2306 3 года назад
So, I was not satisfied with Sean’s answer to why the speed of light ….why does light travel at 3M km/s….for example, why not 3.1M or why not 2.9M …..WHY AT 3M km/s??
@Iceman-gm1fu
@Iceman-gm1fu 3 года назад
i wasn't either. sean is one of those smart guys who's actually a dumbass. he didn't answer the question. here's the answer that I liked the most. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FSEJ4YLXtt8.html
@serulu3490
@serulu3490 2 года назад
Relative to our perception of distance and time
@salpatalano2306
@salpatalano2306 2 года назад
@@serulu3490 oh, I see….so ice cream has no bones?? So what’s the answer??
@serulu3490
@serulu3490 2 года назад
@@salpatalano2306 basically the way we see 1 second, it happens at .. End, just 2 dots. The distance is two dots, and that's the way we see it, electromagnetic fields also takes that much time, and it happens to be around 3×10^8 m/s to the way we see it
@salpatalano2306
@salpatalano2306 2 года назад
@@serulu3490 light travels at a certain speed…….WHY. Why not faster, why not slower…..WHY at that speed??
@simpaticode
@simpaticode 2 года назад
Okay, lets just use natural units for everything. A meter is 10^-9, so 3cm would be .03 x 10^-9 - we could call them nanos, so .03 nanos, making nano-nano our small scale of 10^-18. That is, 1 nm would be 1 nano-nano in natural units. I like this because it introduces some much needed humility into our (ultimately quite puny) human endeavors.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 года назад
"photons dont have a rich innerlife" i'm cracking up ^6^
@jackderose6575
@jackderose6575 Год назад
How did light come before causality when light couldn't have existed before the big bang/beginning of the universe?
@HarryNicNicholas
@HarryNicNicholas 3 года назад
from the viewpoint of an observer on the extremities of our universe we are travelling at the speed of light, and getting faster...
@simianbarcode3011
@simianbarcode3011 3 года назад
*from the point of view of an unobservable observer who cannot observe us
@michaelbariso3192
@michaelbariso3192 2 года назад
If the light waves from the sun were 8 minutes and 20 seconds in a past dimension of Einstein's space-time then people on Earth are just imagining the infrared warmth of the sun coming up on the horizon. The communications delay between Earth and Mars is approximately 20 minutes. We're either viewing the light from Mars in the future, Einstein's past dimensions of space-time or in real time, which do you think is more logical? Einstein's relativity is wrong light has no limitation of speed; it cannot be slowed down because it isn't moving. From every vantage point in the universe light is omnidirectional-instantaneously traveling in both directions. Light and electromagnetic waves are independent of each other. According to Einstein's relativity-time dilation's, photos taken of the Earth from the Discovery Space station traveled from the past to the future violating the laws of physics, conservation of energy and common sense. According to Einstein's projectile light particle proton light has a (constant speed) of 186,000 miles per second moving through spacetime, but if light has a (constant speed) then moving clocks cannot run slow through spacetime! :-) The speed of light according to Einstein's relativity is 186,000 miles per second, but according to physics if two mechanical watches were synchronized on earth and one traveled across the universe and back, there would be no difference in time between the mechanical watches proving the speed of light is instantaneous as the only way a mechanical watch will run slow is if you tighten the main spring. Big Bang, Einstein's relativity-time dilation and nearly all of science debunked. Using optical clocks, lasers and GPS to prove Einstein's time dilation-space-time curvature is like using a metal detector to find gold at Fort Knox. The closer you are to the electromagnetic fields, mass and gravity of the earth the more light bends aka gravitational lensing. If the speed of light is constant then past and future dimensions of spacetime and an expanding universe would not be possible, obviously destroying the twins paradox as each twin cannot move faster or slower than the other. A mirror is a wave reflector that flips images from left to right, but according to Einstein the images you see are the result of projectile light particle photons being transported into past and future dimensions of space-time. Explain how particle light photons can re-converge their molecular structures in mirrors and how this is done without violating the law of conservation of energy. From every vantage point in the universe light is omnidirectional-instantaneously traveling in all directions (forwards and backwards through Einstein's space-time) while violating the law of conservation of energy. Explain how Einstein's projectile light particle proton can travel all directions having a (constant speed) of 186,000 miles per second. Einstein would have made a great used car salesman :-). Light waves can stretch, bend-curve and occupy a state of superposition, whereas the hypothetical Einstein projectile light particle (photon), a particle that has never been observed cannot. Unlike a TV or computer monitor the images we are viewing in the universe are in real time, not a series of frames that create the appearance of a moving image. There are no DCU digital convergence circuits in space yet Einstein's disciples believe the light and moving images they see in the universe aren't really there, they're just video recorded images of the past 13.8 billion years. You could lead a cult to water, but you can't make them think. Neither time, energy nor mass can create itself into nothing, reside in nothing or expand into nothing simply because nothing has no properties. Time and space are independent of each other, not material bodies or fantasy unions that magically stretch Time, energy, and matter like a rubber band into space-time dimensions. Einstein's projectile light particle proton has a (constant speed) of 186,000 miles per second moving through spacetime and because so wavelengths of light cannot stretch through spacetime! Red-shifts are simply the result of decelerating electrons, as moving electrons of charged electromagnetic waves-light travel through the plasma of the universe each lump (or "quanta") of energy in the electromagnetic waves are charged then discharged to the next lump, eventually the energy dissipates causing the delay in radio communications giving the appearance of time dilation - longer wavelengths in red shift. Will the James Webb Telescope view the birth of the first galaxies? Nope, the universe goes on to infinity. Neither time, the atom, energy nor mass can create itself into nothing, reside in nothing or expand into nothing simply because nothing has no properties. The James Webb Space Telescope is not a time machine, you can’t travel back in time to view the beginning of the universe with telescopes that were made in the future :-). Light and electromagnetic waves are independent of each other. If science uses Einstein's wrongly theorized speed of light like an odometer to calculate past dimensions of distance and time, then using that same method to calculate forward dimensions of distance and time would mean the Big Bang was created and expanded in the future before time existed. Unlike a television or computer monitor the images we are viewing in the universe are in real time, not a series of still image frames that hypothetical Einstein projectile light particles photons create to give us the appearance of a moving image :-). The speed of electromagnetic wave is 186,282 miles per second vs Einstein's projectile light particle proton at 186,000 miles per second. Is this a coincidence or did Einstein plagiarize yet another phenomenon to fit the math of relativity? Electromagnetic waves in space can neither slow down or speed up, this is consistent with the law of conservation of energy. If light slowed down, its energy would decrease, thereby violating the law of conservation of energy so the speed of light is instantaneous and cannot travel slower than it does. If Einstein's projectile light (particle photon) had mass it's light could not travel across the universe, high speed particles traveling at 186,000 miles per second would break the Hubble and James Webb telescope mirrors, debunking the speed of light, Big Bang, Einstein's relativity and any science that uses relativity in their theories. Everyone knows cell phone electromagnetic radio waves travel both ways, yet Einstein's disciples believe time energy, mass and light can only travel one way back in time. If you simply run the Big Bang theory in reverse you reveal the insanity of Einstein's relativity and Big Bang theory. If the expansion of the Big Bang were true, time, energy, mass and light would be in the future from the vantage point of an expanding singularity-Big Bang and planet Earth would now reside in a past dimension of Einstein's time dilation (moving clocks run slow) space-time 13.8 billion years ago :-). From every vantage point in the universe light is omnidirectional-instantaneously traveling in both directions (forwards and backwards through Einstein's space-time) while violating the law of conservation of energy. Explain how Einstein's projectile light particle proton can travel in both directions having a (constant speed) of 186,000 miles per second :-) It's truly amazing how the science and politics of the left are able to keep people denying reality, there are no DCU digital convergence circuits in space, yet Einstein's disciples believe the light and moving images they see in the universe aren't really there, they're just recorded images of the past 13.8 billion years. Pretending not to notice the gross contradictions-pseudoscience in Relativity is typical of Einstein's disciples, devaluing the source of any information that's in contradiction with their beliefs-theories. You could lead a cult to water, but you can't make them think. If the light from the universe travels to past dimensions of time then it's light is also traveling into future dimensions of time (instantaneously). “And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.” a state of superposition where time and gravity run inwardly, outwardly, in all directions in the same time frame, similar to the electromagnetic field having no beginning and no end. "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End" Revelation 22:13. Disciples, remember thy 1st commandment, thou shalt not question thy lawgiver of relativity for blasphemers are the devil's pawn. Let thee not dwell in dissension of our Lord Albert, shun them, drive them back to their jungle lair amen. Albert Einstein, an autistic violinist patent clerk that had access to more papers than Suzanne Somers litter box yet creates theories with more bugs than Terminix- Magnetron
@markhughes7927
@markhughes7927 2 года назад
‘Gravitons’ - hens’ teeth?! Gravity always used to be an effect not a thing! When did that change. If gravity is considered as a unit effect then it is not governed by the physical law applying to radiative/propagative particles. Tie a piece of string to a stiff on/off switch to a laser secured to the moon and pull from ‘off’ to ‘on’ from an earth related structure and you will see what you have caused some quarter of a second later than you are ‘allowed to’! (The gravitational effect is tensive and all the molecules in the string are lined up and performing ‘unit-gravity’ - or so I imagine!)
@glypton
@glypton 3 года назад
He didn’t get the question about why the speed of light is c !
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 3 года назад
Yeah he didn't answer it. The interviewer should've then asked: why is "1 lightsecond = 300 million metres" & the correct answer involves talking about 1) electrical permittivity which (somehow) creates a small amount of positive & negative charges in the vacuum & 2) magetic permeability which (somehow) creates a small amount of magnetic field lines in the vacuum & then 3) explain how these charges & field lines slow down light (which requires talking about Maxwell's equations & the equation E/B = c)
@epistemologicaldespair68
@epistemologicaldespair68 2 года назад
The question is is poorly asked, speed and position are relative, just as there is no "universal now"(general relativity). When you ask how fast something is traveling, your answer always has to be given in terms of it being relative to something else, if you were in empty space, and traveling in a straight line, there would be no way to tell what your speed is, because there is no reference of speed to anything else. So of course you can give an answer, but that answer is dependent on something else(the earth, the sun, the galaxy, etc), its relative. You can't give a speed of something if it doesn't relate to something else. This is Special Relativity
@epistemologicaldespair68
@epistemologicaldespair68 2 года назад
Sean answered the question by saying the number value of C depends on your units, what you are choosing to relate it to. "why does light move at X speed" isn't a question that has one answer.
@kumarsahil9615
@kumarsahil9615 3 года назад
Why don't you start a podcast with this videos . This r just awsm. I have a question what is the one way ßpeed of light??
@winkywacky6173
@winkywacky6173 3 года назад
"Things" relate at and by lightspeed. Lightspeed is PRIOR to space-time. Lightspeed isn't mph; it's the SOURCE of m&h, of space-time. Etymology of relate, of relativity, is "carry back". Lightspeed is the cosmic glue; it IS relativity. There is no simultaneity among things (stars, quarks, events). To stop time is to negate space. A solitary Planck of time does not express existence.
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 года назад
Not exactly. Saying that lightspeed is the source of m & h, i.e., distance and time, overconstrains the universe. What it causes (or what causes it - you can't really say which is the case) is the RATIO between distance and time.
@winkywacky6173
@winkywacky6173 3 года назад
@@BrightBlueJim Please view my 12-minute video, "Ten to the 43rd Worlds per Second" (WinkyWacky channel) for more context on this area. Comment?
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 года назад
@@winkywacky6173 Interesting. See comment over there.
@Nekuvsnoise
@Nekuvsnoise 3 года назад
i love sean carroll
@ryhk3293
@ryhk3293 3 года назад
You and my friend Jen, but she actually married him. Big ceremony and everything. Made me fly back from the Congo to go the wedding. Took me a week of travel to get to LA from a field hospital outside Walikale to LA, watched her tie the knot in a red dress, then turned around and took a week to travel back. I thought the red dress was a nice touch. (Really, some old ladies from Maine got on the elevator wondering if they had to travel the farthest to get to the wedding. I was like, "Ladies, I literally had to row across an exploding lake in Africa in a canoe on the first day of the week of travel it took to get here and that was one of the lesser perils of my journey, so no, not even close.") Seriously, the red velvet wedding dress was a nice touch. That was a neat wedding.
@wearemany73
@wearemany73 Год назад
Ghey!
@JohnSmith-ut5th
@JohnSmith-ut5th 2 года назад
I hate to say it, but Sean Carroll is becoming yet another "tow the standard speil" talking head "physicist". He used to have some interesting non-standard ideas. Now, it's all just standard the standard BS.
@rrotstein
@rrotstein 3 года назад
At 6:30 Sean Carroll says "When you compare it somehow to what is observed by someone who is moving in a different way through the universe, they can have experienced a different amount of time." I understand how it is possible for an observer in a specific frame of reference to compare the measured speed of two EVENTS (e.g., clock ticks) in different frames, but I don't understand how it is possible for me, an observer in a frame, to compare WHAT I OBSERVE with what you, in another frame OBSERVE. To do this, it would be necessary to treat observations as themselves being physical things, and to be able to compare two observations in two different frames from the point of view yet a third observer - where? in what frame? - or from "outside" the whole scenario, as if you could judge from a "God's-eye" point of view. But this is explicitly disallowed by the concept of relativity; there is no privileged point of view, and no absolute, universal standard.
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 3 года назад
If I'm standing on the pavement & see u drive past me at 30 mph due East I see u moving at 30 mph & I think I'm stationary. But ur experience is that *you're* stationary. & you're perfectly entitled to say this. It's a valid point of view because motion is relative. u see me moving at 30 mph due West. & to u, it's like your car is on a treadmill. I dunno why u think it's "necessary to treat observations as themselves being physical things & to be able to compare 2 observations in 2 different frames from the point of view yet a 3rd observer"
@rrotstein
@rrotstein 3 года назад
@@alwaysdisputin9930 Because an observer can observe things, an observer can observe another observer, but an observer cannot observe another observer's observation. In order to do that, the first observer would have to be inside the mind of the second observer, while still observing that observer from the outside. This is a self-contradiction in terms. You can reason about, you can hypothesize, you can make calculations about, you can draw conclusions about what another observer "must" see, or "would" see, or "will" see. This is what theorists do. But observation itself is an act, a unitary experience; it implies an observer rooted in one frame of reference and not another. To claim otherwise is to confuse CONCEPTION with PERCEPTION.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 года назад
its a good point.
@elmerfudd5650
@elmerfudd5650 3 года назад
The speed of light can be measured as 1, when α =1/137.
@BrightBlueJim
@BrightBlueJim 3 года назад
Absolutely. But you're missing the more serious flaw in his answer to "why is the speed of light 300 million meters per second?" I'm sure the question wasn't about why it's such a big number (which is the question that Carroll answered), but about why it is the specific speed that it is. I know that this is classically illustrated by the limits imposed by the permeability and permittivity of free space, which show up in Maxwell's equations, which combine to regulate both the impedance of free space and the speed of electromagnetic waves in free space, but i was hoping to hear an explanation based on the more fundamental constants. But of course, c = 1, if you apply the right unit of measure.
@rashediqbal823
@rashediqbal823 2 года назад
Is photon traveling is like water drop in flowing river stream pickups the speed of stream. Seed of paper boat dropped in the stream will flow at speed of stream.
@lahaina4791
@lahaina4791 Год назад
Very good Grasshopper!
@habtamumanaseb4497
@habtamumanaseb4497 2 года назад
Think if there weren't time and space, It wouldn't be nothing.
@beenay18
@beenay18 3 года назад
person: what determines the speed of light? physicist: starts to explain why does speed of light appear so big in numerical value. Please answer that. you are just beating around the bush. We want answer.
@MrOvergryph
@MrOvergryph 3 года назад
"We can't measure light" ahem @
@anticat900
@anticat900 Год назад
You cannot explain the speed of light using made up things like Gravitons, they haven't been found to exist in reality or even in theory. Some however may still want to force them into existence none the less, and thats with the use of bad maths and the breaking of general relativity.
@agnosticatheist4093
@agnosticatheist4093 3 года назад
I Need My Ganja To Slow Things Down 🙇
@Iceman-gm1fu
@Iceman-gm1fu 3 года назад
sean carroll comes off as the most punchable/patronizing guy. the tone he uses when talking about faraday and maxwell you would think he came up with the equations on his own one afternoon. and "it was only MUCH later that WE figured out speed of causality" -- good job figuring out speed of causality, sean. you and einstein figured it out together, right? and then he doesn't actually answer the next question. someone asks 'why is the speed of light x' his answer: "oh, well [idiot], it's not that. speed of light is 1... and the question is really, why do we use meters/second" -- continues to delve into that explanation, which has nothing to do with the original question. no sean, why x is what it is IS IS IS the question. the universal speed limit being a definite number is HUGELY important. HUGE implications. WHY would there be a speed limit IS the question. it goes back to finding out what the hell system are we all existing in. it would be like a microbe getting one step closer to understanding the nature of the petri dish. so, no, sean. just go into what maxwell found with permitivity/permeability and it coming out to speed of light. then maybe talk about the implications of that.
@-30h-work-week
@-30h-work-week 3 года назад
If entangled particles are really communicating instantly, then... why do scientists keep saying nothing can happen faster than C?
@Tr1Hard777
@Tr1Hard777 3 года назад
I feel like whenever "the super smart science guy" is talking about abstract quantum stuff hes just got a formula like drive till you hit a half tank than a quarter than an eighth and it goes on forever and its unlimited gas.
@JustMe-vz3wd
@JustMe-vz3wd 2 года назад
there are two possibilities, either the "super smart science guy" is just a clever talking dud, or you don't grasp what he is saying...
@velimirstanimirovic4904
@velimirstanimirovic4904 3 года назад
There isn't speed of light because nothing moves, fotons don't move! Energy is transferred from foton to foton! When you switch on your light, do you feel any rush of anything?
@TEAMGETHELP
@TEAMGETHELP 3 года назад
No such thing as a photon🤣🤣🤣
@glypton
@glypton 3 года назад
Photon?
@clocked0
@clocked0 3 года назад
I don't think you realize just how small these things are lol. You wouldn't be able to feel any rush of anything..
@morrari690
@morrari690 2 месяца назад
'photons are particles' LOL .. I guessed he missed the part where we found out about wave/particle duality XD
@DavidKolbSantosh
@DavidKolbSantosh 26 дней назад
The speed of gravitons? Total nonsense!
@mayanksrivastava2902
@mayanksrivastava2902 4 года назад
If speed of light = speed of photons , then what is the probability that every star have photons speed different to each other because they have different energy.?
@brittanyward-taylor5805
@brittanyward-taylor5805 3 года назад
Photons do all have different energies. All electromagnetic radiation is a photon. From x-ray to beta ray. All kinds of different rays of light.
@clocked0
@clocked0 3 года назад
@@brittanyward-taylor5805 Yeah, but the difference in energy translates to a difference in frequency/wavelength. Light itself travels at the same speed regardless
@4c00h
@4c00h 3 года назад
Here's a new word: Slower
@danielboyce8804
@danielboyce8804 2 года назад
BAHAHA
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 4 года назад
The velocity of light (causality) is the same and equal for all observers, it is independent of the observer's perspective or 'position', it therefore conforms to a principle of objective democracy. The laws of physics conform to a principle of objective democracy. Scale invariance is the same and equal for all observers -- objective democracy.
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 3 года назад
@Small Axe Mach's principle of inertia or the principle of least action. Time dilation is dual to length contraction -- Einstein, special relativity. Potential energy is dual to kinetic energy, gravitational energy is dual. Apples fall to the ground because they are conserving duality. The force of gravity is literally proof that duality is real, we are all bathed in a field of duality caused by gravity! Galileo:- "All objects fall at the same and equal rate (acceleration) in a gravitational field" Gravitation is equivalent or dual to acceleration -- Einstein's happiest thought, the principle of equivalence (duality). Fundamental physics has to explain why objects fall to the ground -- the force of gravity and this force is inherently dual! The fact that gravity is the same & equal for all observers everywhere means that it is conforming to a principle of objective democracy -- the laws of physics are objective with respect to all observers. Tensors in Einstein's theory of General Relativity are frame invariant transforms hence they are democratic -- they are independent of the observers perspective. The velocity of light is the same and equal for all observer, it conforms to a principle of objective democracy. The force of gravity (duality) is objective democracy in action. Teleological physics:- objectives = targets, goals, purposes, aims. The laws of physics are teleological in nature if they conform to a principle of objective democracy, the subjective becomes objective, relative becomes absolute, that which is dependent upon the observer's perspective becomes independent of the observer's perspective Relative entropy becomes absolute or objective entropy (and syntropy) -- the 4th law of thermodynamics! Objective democracy is hardwired into the laws of physics.
@hyperduality2838
@hyperduality2838 3 года назад
@Small Axe Cause is dual to effect -- David Hume. Absolute truth is dual to relative truth -- Hume's fork. "The relation of ideas" is dual to "the matter of facts" -- Hume's fork. Concepts are dual to percepts -- the mind duality of Immanuel Kant. Being is dual to non-being creates becoming -- Plato. Alive is dual to not alive -- Schrodinger's cat or Plato's cat. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. The proton (thesis) is dual to the electron (anti-thesis) synthesizes the photon -- atomic duality! Light or the electro-magnetic field is synthesized by duality. Electro is dual to magnetic -- Maxwell's equations. Positive charge is dual to negative charge -- electric fields. North poles are dual to south poles -- magnetic fields. Electro-magnetic energy is therefore dual, photons or light is dual -- wave/particle or quantum duality. Energy is duality, duality is energy.
@kevinlemon6537
@kevinlemon6537 3 года назад
The human thought process is faster than The speed of Light. .
@v05555
@v05555 3 года назад
fail/cringe
@bradgrauer9148
@bradgrauer9148 4 года назад
He's wrong about that and I can prove it it's actually the opposite you get less Mass to close the lightspeed
@bullpuppy7455
@bullpuppy7455 3 года назад
If I throw a 10 gram bullet at a wall, it will bounce off of it because it doesn't have enough inertial mass to do much else... If I load the bullet into a gun and accelerate it to a high speed, it gains enough inertial mass in the direction it is fired to penetrate the wall... With that said, I'd love to hear your explanation on how one would lose mass as you approach light speed, unless you are referring to the expulsion of fuel used to propel a mass...
@cellotron4758
@cellotron4758 2 года назад
@@bullpuppy7455 What do you mean by “inertial mass”? I thought it would be more to do with the fact the force is much larger, enough to break through the structure of the wall, due to the acceleration of the bullet hitting the wall increasing.
@isaacbussey3216
@isaacbussey3216 3 года назад
This is completely idiotic, light has no speed. The speed of causality or the speed of energy transfer is instantaneous. It isn’t infinite, it simply is or is not. If I roll a pool ball against another pool ball the other ball will accept the energy from the cue ball instantaneously. Causality and light I agree move at the same speed, that speed is instantly.
@gustavcigas8417
@gustavcigas8417 3 года назад
How is it possible they always pretend to understand what they talking about, at the same time knowing about not having quite correct physics.
@Bryan-dr5qy
@Bryan-dr5qy 3 года назад
@Mona Lisa In science the only authority is what nature tells us. Some scientists may have biases but that is precisely why we have the scientific method and falsifiability, to always challenge our own beliefs. It's not about proving you're right, it's about knowing where you were wrong. If you have any semblance of a rebuttal that is worth listening Sean's gonna be the first to hear it
@Bryan-dr5qy
@Bryan-dr5qy 3 года назад
@Mona Lisa If you're gonna pick a judge to convict a criminal, are you gonna pick a judge that is biased or do you want someone who's impartial? Cause that's what's what peer review is for. Often times our cognitive bias gives us tunnel vision and it's precisely why we need unbiased opinions to properly evaluate our findings. It's not an appeal to authority to have scientists evaluate other scientists, if you were to go for heart surgery, would you be okay with a random person from the street cutting open your chest? Einstein had so many gripes with the establisment's status quo, but instead of sulking he humbled himself, did the work and got recognised the proper way. Notice how Sean is very careful with his words, making very clear the assumptions people make when describing certain phenomena and doesn't claim absolute certainty. I don't know what you'd call that but the last thing I'd call him is a know-it-all. If science has taught us anything, it's to ask ourselves whether we are wrong before assuming we are right
@Bryan-dr5qy
@Bryan-dr5qy 3 года назад
@Mona Lisa Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Einstein the theoretical physicist who actually predicted the curvature of light which has been observed by REAL telescopes? Just because it's theoretical doesn't delegitimise the discipline in any way as long as it solves incosistencies and problems.
@richardsaid973
@richardsaid973 3 года назад
@Mona Lisa “they only allow criticism within their own profession” This is not a bad thing in fact its the opposite what kind of point is this?(ill explain my claim later). “Until you have murdered someone you can’t judge us” if what Bryan 8108 said is a false equivalence then then what you just said is no different. Sure MORALLY you can certainly judge a murderer on his actions without being one yourself (assuming being a murderer is synonymous with a profession which there are VERY GOOD arguments to show that it’s not but assume it is). Methodologically, you cannot compare the action or practice of murdering people which anyone can physically and intellectually do if they wanted to meaning there are no physical or intellectual requirements that are not already met by essentially almost every human on earth........to theoretical physics which may not have a different physical limit but has a higher intellectual requirement and knowledge base specifically mathematically which most people do not have both if either. You could have compared the doing physics to something much more on its level such as the surgery you so claim to say is not the same due to one being more of a physical practice therefore more REAL somehow? You realize simply because something is theoretical doesn’t make it less true it simply makes it less convincing to be true (especially to ones that are not within the field which is the original argument in the first place) and certainly helps when evidence conforms with the theory (which is how theories are made even in theo physics). These, mathematical models in theo physics use observation and experimental evidence that are then extended using very reliable mathematics to make predictions almost like weather forecasting. What you said is simply asinine and possibly disingenuous (although i cant prove your mental state through a youtube comment)
@richardsaid973
@richardsaid973 3 года назад
As to address my claim as in fact its the opposite. Taking criticisms from people of other fields (even if they are logical criticisms which is what philosophers tend to have against them especially the ones that are epistemological) is not as good as you think it is due to there lack of involvement in the field they do not have the necessary requirements to make good criticisms typically due to most of the problems being mathematical and not logical (even though math is axiomatically logical it extends logical principles not just depends on them). Now imagine seemingly regular people in the street or even online having criticisms in theo physics due to them logically being unable to understand the physics. It seems to me that they are the ones who think they know what they are talking about in physics even given their lack of expertise and education within the field. Yikes.
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