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The standard Demaree. Not rolling, not modified, and in my opinion the best Demaree 

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The standard Demaree is such a powerful tool to control swarms. If you time your first Demaree correctly then chances are you can get away with just one more until your swarm season is over.
That is how I have been using mine now for several years and it really does make bee keeping so much easier on me and on the bees. Going into the hives a couple times in spring for swarm control??? It simply cannot be beat.
Needless to say though, if you have very strong nectar flows, your always going to have to monitor your hives for swarming. But the Demaree most certainly buys you a lot of time between inspections.
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@garyfish5739
@garyfish5739 5 дней назад
Great video thanks a lot man! I am excited to see the next one!
@strutt01
@strutt01 3 дня назад
Thanks and hope it helps.
@greenhornbeekeeping
@greenhornbeekeeping 4 дня назад
Definitely worth trying i love experimenting ❤
@strutt01
@strutt01 4 дня назад
Hey brother, if you have any strong nectar flows coming up then do this. If not then wait till next spring. You'll get 100 lbs. of honey on one hive. You'll get more if you keep drawn comb on them. And it's not something I came up with, it's a guy named George Demaree back in 1864 that came up with it. He posted it in the American Bee Journal back then. Ive been doing it for a few years now and have it all hammered out. :)
@greenhornbeekeeping
@greenhornbeekeeping 4 дня назад
@@strutt01 well if I have any problems I'll reach out to you but it does make sense
@strutt01
@strutt01 День назад
Keep em rolling brother
@honeybeehobbyistpaul6985
@honeybeehobbyistpaul6985 9 дней назад
Great video. Very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
@strutt01
@strutt01 9 дней назад
Don't forget that link in the description for an animated instructional video. It's the simplest version I've found. It's a 2 minute video. And thank you.
@honeybeehobbyistpaul6985
@honeybeehobbyistpaul6985 9 дней назад
@@strutt01 Ok I'll check it out. Thank You
@michaeltabors2193
@michaeltabors2193 8 дней назад
Great video.
@strutt01
@strutt01 8 дней назад
Thank you, hope it helps. I swear by it.
@Om54bed
@Om54bed 3 дня назад
Definitely trying this next season. I had 5 hives swarm this year 😭 The thing i dont understand with this method is what do you do once there is a laying queen in the top hive? Do you split the brood boxes? Do you still carry out weekly inspections? If you think they are going to swarm again do you repeat the demaree method again? If they fill up the supers do you just keep adding more between the brood boxes? When it gets to autum do you look to over winter 2 hives or reduce it back to one? I want a method where im not going to end up with double the hives each year 😂
@strutt01
@strutt01 3 дня назад
I like your enthusiasm. Your brain works like mine. 😁 Also to see a better picture, click on the link to another youtube video in the description. It's an animated version without the commentary. And yea the running out of space for hives is what caught my interest in this method myself. I feel your pain! Q#1 But first question, you should never get a queen in the top chamber if you go back 7 days after your Demaree and you make sure to knock down every queen cell.( make certain of this, shake the bees off the comb if you must) Q#2 Now that the old brood chamber(currently hatching out and going to backfill with honey) is on top and the new one is on bottom, the queen in the bottom thinks she swarmed. so no more splitting. Q#3 Weekly inspections are going to be tough once you Demaree, your going to have at least a stack of 3 now. Just make sure your hives are healthy before doing this manipulation. Your next brood inspection isn't really necessary for a month if your in a strong flow. If your flow is over then just inspect whenever you want.(The queen truly thinks she just swarmed, shes going to be happy a while) Q#4 If your in a heavy nectar flow and think your hive is going to swarm then yes, do this manipulation again. (It's going to take your queen a while to fill this new brood chamber up again) And even if you don't catch it till you see capped queen cells this manipulation will stop it. Q#5 The upper brood chamber is going to convert to a super as all the brood hatches out. There is debate on where to add supers, but yes keep adding supers as necessary. Q#6 The Demaree is always one hive. Once you knock down the queen cells in the upper chamber then all that brood will hatch out after 24 days (because of drones) and they will fill that chamber up with honey. Then after you pull honey and prepare for winter, yes treat it as a very strong hive going into winter, Either leave plenty of honey for them or feed them. Hope this helps, and if your not comfortable yet, no rush, this is an advanced manipulation. I done it for three years before really getting to know it inside and out. I love it. It's really made everything easier.
@Om54bed
@Om54bed 19 часов назад
@@strutt01 @strutt01 I get it now. Makes total sense. I missed the part about removing ALL the queens cells because I was thinking this is a vertical split method to get 2 hives. I can't wait to try it out next year. Thanks for the info.
@kellyb72601
@kellyb72601 7 дней назад
Great video I'm definitely gonna try this in the spring because I'd like to get as much comb drawn as possible prior to the main flow which starts April 20. We get maples starting in February & swarms starting in march. My only concern is do you have to worry any about temps getting too low for the queen down there in that bottom box with only 1 frame or does most of the field force stay down there with her? I suppose maybe putting an in-frame feeder in that 2nd box would help them getting those bottom 2 boxes drawn out? I usually use inverted jar feeders with a migratory lid but not sure how well that would work having the feeder on top of the 3rd box.
@strutt01
@strutt01 7 дней назад
​@@kellyb72601 you do have to be concerned with freezing temps. Use some open brood too and keep that entrance at its smallest available . Yes all the bees will go up to the open brood if needed. That's also another good reason to not have an upper entrance during that first week. Also add a frame of honey. So open brood and 1 honey. Put the frames right next to each other. 😁
@strutt01
@strutt01 5 дней назад
Is this Kelly from Beesource?
@kellyb72601
@kellyb72601 4 дня назад
@@strutt01 Yep that's me! You have lots of good stuff on your channel
@strutt01
@strutt01 4 дня назад
@@kellyb72601 lots of trial and error going on though. Lol.
@kennystandridge58
@kennystandridge58 6 дней назад
just curious, do you leave the top queen excluder on for the rest of the year until you pull honey supers?
@strutt01
@strutt01 6 дней назад
Once my swarming threats are over, I pull all my excluders. Then I just watch my honey stores. But I know my nectar flows very well. I pulled all my excluders about 2 weeks ago and all of my queens had their marks. So for me, 1 Demaree in March and 1 done on April 15th prevented all my swarming 100%. I do have 2 other hives at another location I need to check. But even if they swarmed I really like these percentages.
@jeremymcatee6293
@jeremymcatee6293 5 дней назад
Why not make a small split with the original queen and move her to another location? You should still get good honey production, but gain an new colony as well?
@strutt01
@strutt01 5 дней назад
@@jeremymcatee6293 agree you get another hive. But the honey production is where the Demaree really shines. That and you buy a solid month of no needing to get into your brood chambers. I know the Demaree looks like a lot of work, but I literally done one in March, then 1 in April and didn't have a single swarm. All my queens had marks on them 2 weeks ago. There are so many things happening with this one manipulation, I don't think any one person can do it justice because it was all but forgotten just a few short years ago. It literally turns your bee hives into monsters. Ex. You remove the entire brood chamber but yet you still have it in the same hive. The queen doesn't realize that. So she goes gangbusters on laying brood and building comb and thinking she just went through a swarm. Now you have her entire old bird chamber hatching and her entire new one coming right along. She never stops for a moment. And I'm going to cover on how to do the Damaris for building up your hive strength next. This example was to prevent swarms. The next example is going to be on building your hive strength in time for a strong nectar flow. In hive health is off the charts.
@strutt01
@strutt01 5 дней назад
Then think about this, as long as you have those nurses away from the queen, her swarm instinct is going to be less. That and all her laying room. When you go back to knock down queen cells in the top chamber, how many splits will you be able to make? There are going to be a whole lot of queen cells up there. But keeep that in mind if your taking brood from that upper chamber too, those nurses will start returning to the brood chamber where the queen is. I personally haven't made any splits that way yet but I can conceive it could be done.
@jeremymcatee6293
@jeremymcatee6293 5 дней назад
@strutt01 it will work pretty well. Your only limitation is how much honey you want to make. If it's a great queen and I want to expand my colonies, I will divvy them up and make 3 or 4. I've had them fail to get mated if it's done prior to the main honey flow, bit on a flow the return rate is excellent.
@strutt01
@strutt01 5 дней назад
@@jeremymcatee6293 yeah I hate talking about Queens not getting mated. I had a heck of a time with that my first year or two. 🤮
@PennsylvaniaBeekeeper
@PennsylvaniaBeekeeper 7 дней назад
I've been experimenting with the rolling Demaree for the past two years and had ok results; the amount of work involved in management makes it difficult to do on more than a few hives though. We discussed this method a few weeks ago on @sawmillcharliesbeefarm live chat. Come on over to Charlie's live chat sometime and discuss this method with us. - Darren
@strutt01
@strutt01 7 дней назад
Sounds good. Will do.
@strutt01
@strutt01 7 дней назад
I just subbed him so it looks like it's on friday nights.
@PennsylvaniaBeekeeper
@PennsylvaniaBeekeeper 7 дней назад
@@strutt01 yep, Almost every Friday night.
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