The State of Evolutions in FC24 

We need a bunch of super specific evolutions. An evo that only has the requirement of 50 pace and gives +30 pace or something. Or a stamina evo, or an agility evo? If there's a super slow player like Fellaini, you will never be able to make them usable using evolutions because the pace boosts are so stingy on evos. Evos give +8 rating but +2 pace. Especially CM evos have been really bad for this. Evos should be making everyone's teams really unique but because evos are so behind the quality and ease of SBC players, everyone has the exact same team of sbc icons. I honestly wish they'd never released a single icon sbc this year because every single team had Vidic and Blanc at the start, and now every team has Sawa, Zidane, Eusebio, Cafu, Schmeichel, etc

I said this before FC24 came out - Evo's are an amazing idea that EA will completely under utilise and not implement well - a very typical EA thing. Like SBC's have become over the years, evo's will just become another way to drain your coins and points and are no more than a gimmick at this stage. The only hope is that this is the first year and things could change in future games as EA themselves have said. They were so fun at the start of the game cycle but, for this year, I'm not bothering with them anymore.

I think you'd like more of a skill tree system where you can upgrade certain areas Moe than others and apply different play styles to how you play

Evos was the one thing that really kept me in the game, but i just cant bother anymore. Too many restrictions, and especially the no playstyle+ has put me off, so I took a 1 month break and only came back to build some packs for TOTY, to have a little fun. If they doesn’t change something I might be out after TOTY.

the evo glitch was the most fun ive had doing evos in a while. it shouldn't be the players fault that a glitch has been in the game for over a month and ea must have known that and still let it happen. I run a Chelsea past and present. and I was able to get my Levi colwill from a 72 rated to a 90 rated because of it, and he actually now fits the meta. the evo glitch actually made evos fun, because ea release so many bad evos which are behind the meta curve, which you can't use in rivals or champs cause you will get battered so many of my low rated Chelsea ones that have one 85 or higher rated stat can never be used in another evo so just sit on my reserves

I would like the +10 pace evo, too. It could make a lot of players usable, including base icons.

Would be great to upgrade individual columns, but the thing is ea don't want you to use these players they want you to want the r9s and gulilets instead ,all boils down to what gets you opening packs and spending money

yeah for example my 85 Ansu Fati that I evo'd before the game technically released still hasn't gotten another evo he fits into. it's insane that I'm basically stuck with a 85 card (not forced to use him just stuck with no option to upgrade) when you can get a 90+ rated squad from SBCs that have released in the last 30 days

I am waiting since detail oriented to get a new evo for my Jun Endo and they keep doing this Max 75 max 85 overall bullshit nobody wants to evo all 75s to 89 just let me progress my card i dont expect her to get to 99 like you said but i want her to be on the power curve to be able to compete .Atleast let me get her to 89 or 90 so its not stagnant . They are clueless there i swear .

Evo’s are rubbish now. Cool for sentimental value but no one uses them. They’re deffo nerfed

This is exactly what I’m talking about. I’m a Watford fan and have two 87 rated players and they are garbage in game. Nep is the only creator who actually says it the way it is and doesn’t lie and say the evolutions are amazing when they are awful.

Not sure if you mention it but there have been so many glitches and problems with Evos as well the patrick who Evo is glitched to the point that anyone who does it and then tries to put that evo card into something else it either boots them off the screen or logs them out on the app or web app, and even though a lot have people have complained about this EA are for the most part doing nothing to fix or even address it.

I have been doing something similar to Nep with Chelsea players, not the extent, mainly because of time, but I have also been frustrated with them for a while now. I have basically a whole squad of players, so 20+ and literally ONE of them gets in my team and that is 88 Lavia, who could likely be out once I have completed Sawa. My issues with them are: - Why do we HAVE to play SQB, rivals or champs to do them? Where has evo lounge gone? - The zero PlayStyle+ requirements - The fact that we can't do more than one at the same time makes it very difficult for casual players to have time to do all the ones they want to - What is the point in the max overalls? The only reason is to stop people using evos to get high rated fodder but how much of a problem would that ACTUALLY be like seriously? - Of course, goalkeepers? like literally one that makes any keeper you want 88-89 rated, keepers are in no way needle movers in this game anyway - There needs to be a solution when you have a player that is literally 1 stat point from being eligible, cap the boost? make the stats cumulative? - Why can't we evolve the same card again? if a better evo comes out for a card we have already used, why should we be stopped from doing it if we are willing to spend the money? - What is their obsession with releasing promo cards that deliberately mirror popular evos? It's the first year, so there was always a need for EA to find out how they were going to work, but like most things in the game, it seems like EA see the community having too much fun with something that isn't stuck behind an expensive paywall and ruin it.

Since EA have given up on moments, why not combine them with evos? Give us evo specific moments challenges that give you evo moments stars which you can spend in the moments store. Replace the moments store packs with the evo upgrade examples you used in the video, e.g. 30 evo moments stars for a 1* weak foot upgrade. As someone who still does the weekly moments challenges as well as almost every evo, this sounds like a lot of fun.

I wouldn't pay 150,000 coins for 1★ weak foot. That's ridiculously. I'd just buy a better player with better weakfoot for cheaper

I wholeheartedly agree with this. Have a Leeds evo team and have probably 3 decent players in it but still play a full 11 including 75 rated Meslier but can't ever upgrade my players. Have players stuck between 80 and 83 rated which don't ever fit. They either have a playstyle plus or too high pace. Im close to just giving in and seeing what happens next year. Even todays evo fits none of my players due to the pace requirement including my non evo'd base Dan James who again is stuck at 75 rated yet the sweats are able to just evo the same player to an insane level i.e Malen yet my 82 rated Gnonto couldn't possibly be upgraded

Glad to see the 'state of' vids back, been long overdue. Love these vids!

Also works the same with the Red evo’s. I preferred the Green look so didn’t complete the game and left them and now they won’t be eligible.

for my favourite player, sulemana, i haven’t really been able to give him an all round boost just because he’s really fast and the pace requirements always block him from a really good evo.

This video is spot on Nep. I feel exactly the same as someone who's FC24 journey has been evolving USMNT players. I will only play with my Evo team to my own detriment, it's how I enjoy the game. There isn't a price I wouldn't pay to evolve my already evolved starters. EA need to get their shit together on this.

EA should add a max ‘initial rating’ for evos. This means you can chain your evos that are already 85/86/87 but not start fresh on a gold card. It would allow for an evo to progress but not any of the same rated cards. It would also give more reason to do early evos

I completely agree, Evolutions have alot of potential but them restricting Evo 3s with 0 Playstyle+’s and even just capping the stats to gold card level attributes effectively cancels out the players Evolutions which we actually want to use, i’ve based my team around Chelsea, and i got Chilwell to 88 before really learning about the chaining method and making use of it effectively now he becomes a 91 with expired Evos which no one would’ve really considered before the videos came out, i think them restricting chaining cards to be able to keep up with the power curve just makes people who want to play with “their UT” makes the game so boring, they can do so much to keep the consumers happy and still make their profits. People who want to progress players from their clubs completely lose any ability to continue progressing their team to keep up with new meta/playing strategies and even just again playing against the power curve then having to conform themselves to using the meta players/doing the SBCs for the icons so every player just circles back to the icon SBCs or the Mbappes/Vini’s just makes the game so boring and restrictive

I just don’t like that we’re getting final evos with card designs from random promos (why are we getting Radioactive cards and base Evo cards during TOTY?). If I could make one of my Americans blue, I’d more so much more incentivized to complete some of these 15+ game evos

The problem is that there is no way of knowing if you can chain and you can not go back. Once you do an evo, your player and the evo is gone. I have many good ideas but I can not do them anymore. I am happy with my 89 Anyomi and 86 babayide tho.

Pacey Protector is still the best Evo EA have released and that was there ON DAY ONE

If they stop us from using in progress evos I'm gonna be piiiiiiisssed. I don't do the glitch and never have, all I've done is let something expire because I CAN'T WIN enough competitive games online, why should I be punished by stopping my progress? Just make it so if you don't claim your final evo, it autoclaims, so you can't claim more than 1 playstyle. That can't be hard to code EA, get real.

As someone who support Hull, I’ve got a full hull squad of evo’d players and if you do one evo sometimes it means you can’t upgrade them again because like nep said the physical might be like 91 but everything else is terrible. Also it always seems to be midfielders or attackers my wind backs are barely upgraded and it’s feels like robbery to put a silver full back into an evo for 100k for them to go up 3 levels. There should be all different types like loads that boost up bronzes and silvers etc otherwise every silver and bronze card in the whole game is entirely useless

Imagine having a card, 82 rated, waiting 4 months for an evo and still NOTHING. That's just awful.

I think Nep is totally wrong about EVOs. People absolutely can upgrade the players that they want to but it's about making choices not just putting every card into every EVO. If you want to use your players, they're absolutely usable. If you want to do the best you can and get +2 wins in champs, then spend your 50/75/100k on a player from the market rather than an EVO. Re: the fix that EA have implemented, it's great and those who abused the system should be punished IMO.

Surely the way to patch the evo glitch is to have the game auto claim once expired?

It's no surprising as so many were openly trying to exploit glitches and abuse it, so basically now they've nerfed it massively to stop people. You reap what you sow

I am usually a 16 wins Player with my evo team but last Champs i only got 13 wins and it seems to be the same this weekend as i am coming up against teams with like 2 TOTY (loans) min every game (since like +6 form)

Nep, I echo everything you say here. I’ve been running a first owner Aston Villa past and present evo team this game cycle and the first few months were great, taking 75-81 rated cards to 84-87 but now it’s all low rated/no play style+ requirements, I’ve had to go to only 2/3 evos in my side to compete at a decent level. Shame as it was the most fun I’ve had on FUT/UT in years, maybe ever.

i have a LW silver card ive been wanting to evo. But never eligible because pace is too high.

Your idea is excellent. Something along the line of training that only works for specific things and then they can cap things so players don’t become completely broken. Even if it was a max of 5 training per player at the start so you’d have to choose which specific stats and bonuses you wanted. Would allow EA to slowly up the number as to allow evos to keep being usable as the power curve shifts

EA were are the keeper evolutions at?

It’s abysmal unless you abused the glitch prior - doing a Blackpool evo and none of the 4 RW qualify for the new evo - 2 due to dribbling and 2 due to pace and the highest rated card is 81 and it’s the same for the toty striker and cb evo recently They always make sure the evo card is well below the power curve

They need to make Playstyle + removable. They can do it in clubs so they can defo do it but the fact you can’t even put low rated cards in good evos because they get playstyle + then can’t go back in is mental

IMO they shouldnt do requirements and instead do max stat caps and you can put in any card that is under the stat and ovr cap. In this way you make so many more cards available. It still would make the cards very varied as face card stats are not the same as in games and it would allow you to boost your favourite cards all the time rather than hoping for evo that would fit. Like toty prospect centre back would be REQUIREMENTS STAT CAP INSTEAD OF REQURIEMENT 9 Overall Max. 85 (+4ovr boost) 89 Positions CB Pace Max. 82 (+3pace boost) 85 Physicality Max. 88 (+4 phy boost) 92 Playstyles Max. 8 Playstyles+ Max. 0 When the player would hit the cap they would no longer get stat boost in that category, but would still get benefits of any other boosts that an evo gives)

It’s just dawned on me that I won’t be able to evo Bajcetic further as I didnt finish his evo on purpose to avoid an awful & potentially restrictive Ps+ & now I’m being punished for not finishing it. Despite EAs best attempt at ruining Evo’s they are still the only thing that makes me play the game, I’m still using 85 Szoboszlai who I might not be able to evo again for 3+ months.

I'm having the same issue with my 83 rated Elanga. He's not fitting in almost no evo as he's got 92 pace. Problem is, he's not having any other stats higher than 80s so even though he's still fun to play, he's got no chance against already 90s all stats* sbcs or promo cards. Whats the point ? I also try to avoid giving them playstyle pluses early on as EA keeps banning playstyle+s from being evo'd further. Also, they should start putting out more evos. At least one a day. People might say its too much but in all honestly, maybe I like 2,3 teams (which are lower rated) I want to evo them both till end game, so you're left with 22 players to evo at a decent, competitive level to play with. They only put out 2 evo's a week and most of them are paid.

What if you could put cards into evolutions at different stages. Say you had a an 86 rated cb for cb prospect. Instead of getting the first plus 1 you start at that level. So the requirements would be max 86 ovr, 83 pac, 88 phy. Etc.

I feel like instead of a "Max Pace" for putting a card IN to an evo, there needs to be a Max Pace that the card can have at THE END of the evo. As in the evo gives "up to 10 pace, max 90 pace" or something like that...

Would it solve the issue if the requirement was just ‘max xyz in game stats’ and then have a threshold for each position according to a benchmark (e.g. the top 20 IGS in that position in the game at that point in time)? Say, for example, the best CM in the game at that point has 600 total in game stats, then they bring out a CM evo with max 540 in game stats. The evo wouldn’t even be top 20 in their position in the game but it wouldn’t be completely out of touch with the power curve, and you could consistently compete against the TOTY-calibre teams you come up against in Champs This would also allow players with 1 or 2 really high stats but with poor overall stats outside of those to be eligible, and would also prevent those 90 rated cards who actually have IGS of a 83 rated from being exempt as well Thoughts on this?

They should have just made the cards auto-claim once expired. Would have fixed the issue without screwing us over. But it’s EA I guess

What I'd love and am hoping we get at some point, is a first owner evo. It bothers me in a visual sense that everyone is first owner in my team, apart from my 89 Joel Matip. I'm sure I'm not the only one that loves using first owners and because of the badge on the card, it just makes them more valuable than ever to me. I'd pay anything and play as many games. Even if it simply gave you back the same card, but it's first owner and perhaps the stats played ect are wiped so it's a new card. I'd do that without a second of doubt.

I honestly do Evo’s to just have SBC fodder because the game doesn’t allow the players to be relevant. As you indicated, the SBCs are the power curve. So, I just do the best I can’t to make sure I can continue holding onto that power curve by using my evos as much as I can to have 87-88-89 fodder to continue breaking through packs.

Ea threats ultimate team fully as a gacha now. Any discussion about how something free/reliable to get for the players that " could be better " is kinda pointless imo, cause it carries no money interrest. And even more, not giving us viable evolution means we gotta ressort to other means to get a team we feel competitiv ( even if it's not really the case, if you are good you win with team behind in the power curve, and if you are bad you lose with team over the power curve, mostly ), a.k.a ressorting to packs or SBC that are meant to drain our pack content. It plays with the frustration of the player, the core mecanics of gacha, and they have no business changing that. You've already paid the game, and if you plan to only rely on evo or " free " stuff, that requires only time for you to get, instead of using fifa point, losing you as a player is not a loss for them. even the little amount of fifa point you would put casualy to evo a card is not worth for them putting down the entire frustration mecanic. Ultimate team is a gacha, as players we have the right to be mad about it and how we are threated, but it will most likely change nothing.

this video deserves to go viral

You can still chain prospect cb can still be chained shaw from crossing crusaders to a 90 lb

It’s painful for people doing evo to glory on lower league teams, only having a a few evos that take bronze/low silvers to high rated makes everything a grind. Upgrading a 65 rb to 71 seems very pointless

I stopped doing them after they started glitching out. Cant select my evos that show as upgradable when I do the app closes or it just errors on console. Using my previous Evos for SBcs now. What a waste of time.

I gave up on Evos a few weeks ago. The grind to Evo them isn’t worth the time. Most of my Evos went into SBCs. Only one I play with is 89 Olga Carmona and she’ll be replaced with her HM

I had adopo in my club bought him for 300 coins and didn’t realsise he could be insane 😅😢

It would be incredible to get evos that get you in game stats and then you decide where you want to put those in game stats, for exampleyou want to improve someone with bad agility and you place those in game stats there, so you can fix the flaws that most low rated players have.

Only Evo in my team is the 5*5* malen. Every other Evo card I've done hasn't been able to be evod again to something usable or the Evo gives some irrelevant ps+ that I know will prevent a good upgrade again for months again. Still have that 85 fati from the beginning of the year and he hasn't been able to be evod since. Even the season progress cards have stayed miles behind the power curve. Best objective card this year has been loftus cheek. They just push you to the store with everything

Been saying since the start of the game, great idea, terrible execution. The evo’s should evolve players to a certain level so that people can evolve their favourite cards. For example rather than saying max 85 pace for a +3 pace boost and max 81 shot for a +6 shot boost why not say this evo path will make the player 88 pace and 87 shooting regardless of who you use. If you choose then to put someone with 87 pace in or 90 pace in it will either add 1 or take away 2 and then make it so that its “harder” or longer to do for lower rated cards. That way everyone can get the same quality player for their favourite teams/players and they can control what stats evo cards have to prevent these crazy broken cards.

I had high hopes for this but now my highest rated Evos, Szobo and Konate don’t even touch my reserves. It’s sad that I had to boot them because they quickly were behind the power curb

There definitely needs to be some kind of mode to use evos in and to earn evo users coins. My team has 9 Evos plus GK and one Icon and it will stay that way until the end of the game but I have limited way to make coins for evo upgrades, my team is weak in FUT Champs and all these untradeable packs are useless to a player like me. Even just give me an SBC where I can put 11 untradeables in and I get 1000 coins or 5 coin boosts or something, there's just no catering to userbase of players that are like me.

Good idea, bad exexution. Literally every single thing in fifa in history

Could fix the issues with any player who was in the patrick who? evo being unavailable for any other evo. Also why have pace caps? i can evolve a 85 rated player but not a 64 rated because he has more than 88 pace, so stupid

Evo needed to be more accessible to plus to stats but cap out at certain numbers you can get plus 5 pace but can’t go past say 87. Do if you use a 85 it only goes to 87. It stops the stupid cards but keeps things interesting

I have had centurions talisca for months, as soon as the radioactive I know no more evos to upgrade tat would come out. I'm a norwich fan, had sara since the start of the game and have him to an 85. Truly thought toty would give me an opportunity to upgrade these. Jonny Rowe at an 85, lovely but if I could upgrade skill moves and weakfoot he would be up closer to every OP team I play against

If you have multiple evos on one card, claim one, does this not turn it into a non in progress card? So can do further evos and claim higher evos later??

I'd also like to see evolutions based on games to reward players who are dedicated to their favorite in real life teams. 500 games, +2. let club legends continue to fit the power curve

It’s not letting me evo a CB even tho it meets all the requirements and just crashes when I go to click on him, any suggestions on how to fix?

I’ve got a half completed evo which then expired before I could complete which means he is unable to be used in the new evo now

I can't believe Nep's using Schmeichel in this team but on his "The Sh*tters" team he kicked him off. lmao

They need to stop setting the max rating so low and just make it so whatever card goes in ends up at the same end rating, would allow EA to slowly progress the power curve whilst allowing everyone to play their favourite players

Completely agree with everything you said. And an Evo cup would be amazing. I see a lot of people say that there will never be a GK Evo. Can that be traced to anything that EA has said publicly? I have never been able to find the origin of that. Anyone know?

TLDR version "..I spent millions of coins to glitch some cards and EA stopped me.."

Non of my 85 LW EVO fit the new evo as they all have 88 pace 😢 they did it on purpose

They can solve all these problems by just introducing a mode that requires Evo cards and make it grindable for packs like 81+ x2.

i agree with everything, they should really start listening to creators.

I have an 88 Shaw, 87 Wan Bissaka, 88 Garnacho and an 88 Martinez. They're all way behind the power curve and cost me games in WL. 88 Antony is the only one who's decent. I have a whole team of Evo's but 80% are garbage.

I’m still yet to be able to upgrade my 85 centurions evo gvardiol. It’s been months and he doesn’t even have extremely high stats. 80 pace 85 rated and 86 physical

I’ve had an 81 rated Bryan Gil that I evo’d for my spurs team almost 3 months ago, he’s still not been eligible for a single evo because of his dribbling despite being utter garbage

They should've just made Evos autoclaim on completion/expiry. Now they punish people who start and don't have time to finish their evos.

First year of Evos so it’s not perfect but it doesn’t give me much hope that EA will benefit the rtg players. Of all the Evo’s there’s only 3 that i actually use now. The only positive thing is that a lot of popular Evo cards get special cards but the Evo is better than the special card

Is anyone else having a problem starting a Evo it won't let me start one or change to a different in progress Evo

Would be cool if they did Evos where you need to put a former Evo into it. Give if higher caps for requirements but you have to use a player you've gone through the effort to upgrade already Edit: Hadn't got to the part where Nep said this lmao, great minds

Never agreed on every single word of a video. Well this is the first time. I can't retire a single world you said. 🎉🤝🤝🤝

People shouldnt be glitching evos so players could get 3 playstyles etc. The evos should be better though and that is on EA

Its a shame. Now its basically forcing us to use all the meta players to even compete.

Spot on Nep. EA are completely clueless .. they won’t get a dime out of me ever again .. not worth it

Why can’t you have more than one evo card for the one player?!

Holgate gets into my team as i’m saints fan

I completely understand that the requirements ea are giving are too much but if they lowered the requirements there would be a group of cards that would have absolutely op and insane evos and i think thats the thing stopping EA from lowering rhe requirements

Funny how all the good ideas for these games always comes from the people playing it but the people that get paid to haven’t got a clue what they’re doing

Armstrong is beast best evo striker i used by far

Surely come June/July they’ll bring out evos that allow you to evo any player. For example at some point surely I will be able to evo my thunderstruck dalglish or my gold van dijk for example.

The "bugged" cards are what make it fun, as soon as they remove that then evos are back to being terrible!

What they need to do is enable evos to be unapplied. You can the go through the grind again to evo the team in the way you want enabling players to evolve anytime you want

I got 6 evos in my team and am in Elite division so I feel like they do alright. 93 Alaba 88 Alvarez 89 malen 87 loturi and 89 zadorsky 87 walker

I thought evos would save this game but not being able to do more than one at a time absolutely sucks and also the friendlies modes like last year silver stars and player objectives in friendlies now its just the cup which is once every 3 weeks and the biggest L is no swaps the only reason i thought id give this game of a chance because of swaps and friendlies i may not even get the next game

What a 98 adopo for me. Unsung hero don’t have the requirement

TOTY Evo to make are players still some average joe

Evo's just another way to obtain high rated fodder atm

I just wish you could swap play styles plus’s if a evo you have fits, but can’t because it already has a play style plus😂

I've just started the game in January and evos are pointless to me because any that I want to do have expired.