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How to balance, a dynamically balanced tone arm, using a Dual 505 turntable with an Ortofon OM-10 phono cartridge. The tonearm features a 4 point bearing, a counter weight, and a precision calibrated spring at the the pivot point, to add the downward force (weight). Check out my other video to learn how to calibrate a statically balanced arm. The Stereo Shop, Hartford CT.

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@tonys78rpmrecords
@tonys78rpmrecords 11 месяцев назад
I would have never expected that the record would play changing the angle of the turntable like that what a surprise that was. Very good video very good with setting up the weight on the stylus.
@beertifuldotcom
@beertifuldotcom 10 лет назад
this might be the most concise and useful "how to" video i have seen on the net. Im a newbie at vinyl, and your channel is a valued resource. many thanks.
@gotham61
@gotham61 8 лет назад
I remember back in the 70s Dual would have a display on their trade show booths, with a playing turntable that was mounted inside a big gimball device that would slowly spin it around and even turn it completely upside down (the mat and record were glued to the platter so they didn't fall off).
@richardoliverii5407
@richardoliverii5407 3 года назад
I have A Dual 1264 and used Your video to double check my Adjustment Skills....Works Great ...Thanks
@williamshakespeare9705
@williamshakespeare9705 8 лет назад
Thanks StereoShopGuy - you explain it much better than the Dual user manual I have.
@thomashouston4329
@thomashouston4329 7 лет назад
Best tonearm adjustment video on RU-vid. Quick, knowledgeable and to the point. Thank you!
@roykylan677
@roykylan677 3 года назад
A trick: you can watch series at Kaldrostream. I've been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@charliedecker3109
@charliedecker3109 3 года назад
@Roy Kylan Yup, I've been watching on KaldroStream for since december myself :)
@evanidris5786
@evanidris5786 3 года назад
@Roy Kylan Yea, been using kaldroStream for years myself =)
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 2 года назад
41 yrs ago I bought a Dual 622. I still have it. I also have a BSR 510, which uses the same method of setting the Tracking Force.
@robertfitzgerald3432
@robertfitzgerald3432 2 года назад
Bought my DUAL1264 in /81 and still use it to this day.
@emmanuelmorgan6137
@emmanuelmorgan6137 5 лет назад
Thank you for this video! I have a Dual 505, replaced the stylus a few years back with the same that it had before (ortofon DN 152 E) and never had calibrated anything on it at all. Followed your very easy to understand instructions and everything already sounds better. I have learned something very valuable, thanks!!!
@lavenderfive
@lavenderfive 4 месяца назад
Thanks so much! Very well explained.
@nornironpete
@nornironpete 9 лет назад
So glad I came across this video. Left my turntable in to get serviced and new cartridge fitted. Ended up setting the pitch myself as it was running slow and the anti-skate and needle weight was way too light. Now records that had really bad sibilance as the arm tracked towards center are playing great. Thanks again!
@ben2692
@ben2692 7 лет назад
just used this to balance the arm on my Dual 505 and it has transformed the sound. Thanks
@greenmind4971
@greenmind4971 3 года назад
Thank you so much! I was just contemplating whether I should bring my Dual to service since I've had problem with getting it to turn on at all. I followed this video step by step and it turned started spinning immediately.
@jamstar8088
@jamstar8088 10 лет назад
Incredibly well made and informative. Thanks so much!
@lobsterbox20
@lobsterbox20 9 лет назад
Excellent tutorial! If anything, this proves the usefulness of a tracking weight gauge in particular. I need to buy one at my earliest convenience.
@deeteeakl
@deeteeakl 7 лет назад
Thanks a lot for this post. Just managed to get my deck working again after many years sitting in storage. The balance arm was all over the shop.. but fixed now.
@allanteale2790
@allanteale2790 7 лет назад
Thanks good information on the how to do. Just found my old 505-2 and vinyl LPs going to get it up and running again. Nothing like taking an LP out of its sleeve and putting it on a turntable. Very helpful video
@petebrown5052
@petebrown5052 2 года назад
nice!!! got in 1985 brand new and used for a couple months and stored for 30 years ...a dual 505-cs2 turn table.and just got a 1241 dual turntable mint condition.. ..1978 nice too? nad compoents also ,,stored ,, 30 years...my babies!! tuner 4130 amp 3130 cassette player 6130 and cd player 5301
@terryfournier297
@terryfournier297 5 лет назад
I have a Dual 506 turntable and this was so helpful! Thank you!
@kmingoulin
@kmingoulin 2 года назад
I wish I watched this video before purchasing a scale. And also now I know I did it wrong! Very helpful video...
@SparkG448
@SparkG448 8 лет назад
Nice job, nicely explained...mucho thanks!
@ArruVision
@ArruVision 10 лет назад
This video is great! The tilting stunt and the end is bonkers, also seeing a guy who obviously knows his thing and has all the equipment, explaining anyway how you do these adjustments in "idiot mode". Kudos!
@dfunis
@dfunis 4 года назад
Great video, exactly what I needed. Thank u.
@thelabtechnicians5657
@thelabtechnicians5657 2 года назад
Thank So Much Sir For This Invaluable Information ☺️. I Have Just Bought A Second Hand Dual CS 503-2 & Repaired & Refurbished It. This Will Definitely Come In Useful When Setting Up 🙏
@damianslebioda8743
@damianslebioda8743 3 года назад
Great video! Thanks a lot! It really helped me to calibrate my arm in Dual 502
@markdijkstra8480
@markdijkstra8480 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot for posting this video. Got the same turntable. Now i know what to do!
@TheGman858
@TheGman858 5 лет назад
I have a dual 506 and have been trying to dial it in based on the sound this is very helpful thank you
@vanallesvanalles4257
@vanallesvanalles4257 7 лет назад
Very very nice cool video.. Thank you.. Now i love my Dual 505 more 😉😃
@vlakacha
@vlakacha 5 лет назад
Thank you for a such very helpful review!
@BOBTUNNELTON
@BOBTUNNELTON 11 лет назад
PERFECT, I WAS UNSURE OF MY BALANCING SKILLS, THANK YOU.
@raimondasz
@raimondasz 10 лет назад
such a great and really helpful video. Thank you!
@kemenyadi
@kemenyadi 12 лет назад
Thank you so much exactly what I needed for 506
@NEOGEOJunkie
@NEOGEOJunkie 6 лет назад
Thank you so much! I have the same deck and this really helped me out! 👍
@jpreza
@jpreza Год назад
Thank you! Great job. I have a Dual CS 506 which is very close to the 505. Much appreciated!
@kaushikchatterjee9137
@kaushikchatterjee9137 Год назад
Verygood informative video.🙏🙏🙏
@Eekiig
@Eekiig 2 года назад
Very well explained! I am completely inexperienced in the field of turntables and am expecting my first device in the next few days. The video takes away my fear of damaging the cartridge or my records with poor settings.
@sooarts9968
@sooarts9968 3 года назад
Thanks bro ... that's sound clear and precise, I'll adjust same to mine one 👍
@sneskid78
@sneskid78 12 лет назад
One thing about those Dual tables, is they are AMAZING trackers! I can do the same with my early 1970's Dual 1219 :)
@oOandrewbOo
@oOandrewbOo 12 лет назад
Great video, thanks for that.
@MemoMadness
@MemoMadness 5 лет назад
Thank you! Great job!
@thedevo01
@thedevo01 11 лет назад
Thank you! I have done some research since then and have purchased one about 2 months ago. :)
@iain-northpole1587
@iain-northpole1587 11 лет назад
Fantastic. Thank you.
@DARARUJA
@DARARUJA 12 лет назад
Thank you very much It help me to setting my TT very well.
@toneyisaiah3556
@toneyisaiah3556 10 месяцев назад
Useful info.
@vesslazarov4479
@vesslazarov4479 3 года назад
Excelent! Thank you!
@roholidays
@roholidays 8 лет назад
Thank you for it!
@MaxVanHemel
@MaxVanHemel Год назад
thanks for this usefull advise
@naturealist9188
@naturealist9188 6 лет назад
Thank you!
@Lagghshdhdh
@Lagghshdhdh 7 лет назад
Thank you.
@beertifuldotcom
@beertifuldotcom 7 лет назад
Thank you for your video, succinct and to the point. Could you do one about changing the cartridge on the 505 and 504 ?
@seanhaddow949
@seanhaddow949 6 лет назад
Thanks this was very helpful, used turntable I got had the tracking force way to low causing destortion.
@peterwikvist2433
@peterwikvist2433 5 лет назад
Thumbs up for the tie and white shirt!
@videokill75
@videokill75 4 года назад
Thanks!
@thestereoshop
@thestereoshop 11 лет назад
You can balance the arm in ether location, I find it easier to do it over the platter so I can see the arm better. It should be level. Usually when I do it near the arm rest, the cueing gets in the way. By bring the arm over the platter lets you lower the cue so it doesn't interfere with the balancing of the arm.
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 5 лет назад
When checking the cartridge with the scales do it without the mat. Usually it's best to run it under bias not over? Your bias might be out or not on a level surface, check it on a CD to see if it stays in one position while the CD is turning, all skating should be adjusting by ear with headphones to define the perfect balance
@4evaclapham
@4evaclapham 6 месяцев назад
the Ortofon cartridge you are using has still got the brass insert ballast weight fitted, it needs to be removed on this low mass arm, notice that the counterweight is too far forward, that is why the Ortofon has a removable weight
@ashleymatthews2635
@ashleymatthews2635 4 года назад
So I have the exact same turntable. Just bought it! I’m so excited but, I’ve never dealt with vintage before. Can you do a video on how to change the cartridge?
@PhotoDaveWaller
@PhotoDaveWaller 12 лет назад
Excellent video, thank you. Have just purchased a CS505-3 with the same tone arm fitted with an Ortofon 165 E stylus. Any chance of a 'How to replace the stylus & drive belt tutorial'.
@Albe0964
@Albe0964 Год назад
Thank,
@bobexr3
@bobexr3 11 лет назад
Wow amazing! At 6:00 your turntable can still play without problem. I'm sure that if I do that with mine, the stylus will slide away.
@pjcdrummer
@pjcdrummer 9 лет назад
What a great video thanks for sharing. My problem is after I balanced the tonearm when I go to put the styles pressure setting on the needle hits the lp even when the cueing lever is in the up position, I tryed to move the tonearm counterbalance back butI have no luck I even tryed to use one of those shure gages you had but o luck any help would be great thanks. Paul..
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 2 года назад
By using a spring to provide the Tracking Force it will allow the Turntable to be completely inverted, and if the record and platter are secure, it will play the record. In the late 60s, or early 70s, Dual did demonstrate that. Some other brands of Turntables, would just use the counterweight to unbalance the Tonearm, providing the Tracking pressure
@forzaguy1252
@forzaguy1252 Год назад
My favorite quirk about duals
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 Год назад
@@forzaguy1252 Not a Quirk, any turn table that uses a spring to apply the Tracking Force and can play the Record while inverted
@crosspollination6626
@crosspollination6626 4 года назад
Wow. Great job...although I was a bit concerned with the stylus dropping on the mat. Do you work on Dual's? I have a mint condition Dual 701, a bit out of sync. Let me know, thanks.
@andreasleonlandgren3092
@andreasleonlandgren3092 5 лет назад
Thx man just bought a 1218 dual Do you think upgradibg the tonearm is a good idea?
@deejaysoulution
@deejaysoulution 11 лет назад
thx
@jro7075
@jro7075 3 года назад
Hello to thestereoshop I 've been balancing tonearms since the late 70's but boy I had the hardest time with a Dual 1225 tone arm the tone arm is very lite just like my old Onkyo CP-1055FII but this one was the hardest I ever had I could not balance it I'd tweek the counter weight just slightly it would go down I tweek it up it would go up I could not balance it even I checked on the tone arm to see if there was any play ,no play the I checked to see if the screws that help keep the tone in place where bearings are it was fine could it be the head shell was light ,this turntable was barely used it was in original box the dust cover had very small minor scratches the wood base was pristine the head shell looked new even the conectors for the cartridge looked new ??????? for two days I played with it so I got some very small o rings and found a little space inside og headshell I put in 2 o rings I was desperate never encountered this EVER!!!! so I tried it finally I got the tone arm to balance don't know if this was thr fight remedy but I got tone to balanes even set tracking force to 1.75 grams checked it with scale off my half a gfam played a few albums no problems maybe head shell was too lite?????can't explain I had a another 1225 TT but it balanced perfectly took me 5 seconds to balance but this one almost defeated me but I think I solved it what would you do????? JRo
@phantasm1004
@phantasm1004 11 лет назад
Hey Devo, that's a tracking force gauge. It's the Shure SFG-2. You can find it at Amazon, Parts Express, J&R Music & Computer, Ebay, etc.
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 2 года назад
I've had that Shure Balance since 1975.
@RantzBizGroup
@RantzBizGroup 5 лет назад
Hello sir, great video... how does one adjust the dust cover spring so the cover sits all the way down? I have a 604, BTW.
@natanpierce495
@natanpierce495 3 года назад
Where are you??? This is soooo cool. Will you work on my Dual 701? Please?
@romario1972xxx
@romario1972xxx 7 лет назад
👍👍👍
@vintastico
@vintastico 11 лет назад
Hi there I need to open a cs 504 to replace audio cable any tips...great video!!
@bobskie321
@bobskie321 9 лет назад
On the background there is an Ortofon TC 3000 I Googled it and turns out to be a cartridge analyzer. How does it work? I'm just curious.
@GatoGordoPhotography
@GatoGordoPhotography 11 лет назад
I have a dual 502, do we balance it at the platter area or at the tone arm rest like the manual indicated.
@ZisisKardianos
@ZisisKardianos 2 года назад
I noticed that one of the three black screws that holds the chassi, the back one, was missing. Does this affect any of the TT operation or is important only for preparing the TT for transport? It was actually during a transport that that specific screw jumped out and got bented.
@GradyWhite2007
@GradyWhite2007 6 лет назад
You can adjust the anti skate like that..but listen carefully....by ear...Listen to your tweeters on you speakers..and adjust it from there....You'll hear a difference. II has to be done by ear....
@fabers92
@fabers92 5 лет назад
Having problems with my 506 if anyone could help? The counterweight is not having any effect on the arm at all..only when I add weight (around a gram) does the arm drop. Not sure what I'm doing wrong here.
@corvetteguy2629
@corvetteguy2629 Год назад
How do you ajust how fast the tone arm goes down mine goes down like a mouse trap thanks
@horstvoigt2114
@horstvoigt2114 7 лет назад
Thanks a great job. Very useful. I have a question which I hope you are able to answer please. I think my anti-skating isn't working as it should be, ie when I turn the anti-skating dial I think it may not apply the correct amount of anti-skating. Is there a way of checking this and is there a serviceable part (ie spring) that could be gunked up or worn? Thanks.
@horstvoigt2114
@horstvoigt2114 7 лет назад
Sorry forgot the mention my turntable is a Dual 505-4. Thanks.
@andreasleonlandgren3092
@andreasleonlandgren3092 5 лет назад
How do you know if the rim should be changed?
@maxverhaeghe1112
@maxverhaeghe1112 9 лет назад
I have the same pen.
@johnvargo8050
@johnvargo8050 3 года назад
I have a Dual 506 and it is skipping. I followed your directions for adjustment. Any thoughts where I might start?
@GatoGordoPhotography
@GatoGordoPhotography 11 лет назад
Sometimes when I turn mine on it plays fast. I had to turn it in on and off to get it to speed. Any ideas?
@olliesnelling2356
@olliesnelling2356 8 лет назад
How do you take apart the dual 505?
@ArshadHaroon
@ArshadHaroon 9 лет назад
Hi There, hope you can help me. I have a BSR 35CS Mcdonald record changer, everything works great except when I want to turn it off, and slide the slider to Auto so that it should turn off, the tonearm goes to the resting place and right away goes back to play the record. It does not go down upon the resting stand so that it should turn off. It use to work great but may be I touched some setting, please let me know how to do this. Thanks in advance.
@joostdemoor138
@joostdemoor138 3 года назад
Trying to do this setup with my 505, but the vertical bearings seem to stick a bit. I've already tried to resolve it with contact cleaner, but no success. aANyone have any advice?
@carpediem8396
@carpediem8396 4 года назад
Hi, i have trouble with calibration of Dual 721 direct drive, could you help me out here? Thx
@marianacoronel1741
@marianacoronel1741 8 лет назад
Thank you for this video. Now I can understand how the weight works a little better. I need your help. I know that my tonearm is very light. Some records start skipping when they reach the last grooves although they are brand new (not even mint condition). I was also told I could fix that myself by the guy who brought me my new stylus but I don't know how (or I'm scared) to do it. Here is my question: is there a common way to do this? I don't know my stylus' brand and I'm really scared to damage my tonearm and my stylus altogether. Thanks in advance!
@marianacoronel1741
@marianacoronel1741 8 лет назад
The other problem I have is that my turntable has a belt-drive system.
@thestereoshop
@thestereoshop 8 лет назад
I'm not sure make or model your turntable is, but if it has auto shutoff or auto return and if it is skipping towards the end of the record, this may be the cause. There is a a leaver under the platter that when the tone arm starts to come to the end of the record the tone arm makes contact with as it and starts to move it inward as it gets closer to the last groves of the record (end). When it moves in far enough to the platter it trips and the auto shut of is started. Over time the lubricants get thicker and it doesn't move as freely as it once did, so added friction is added and the records skips. This leaver mechanism needs to be disassembled cleaned and re lubricated very lightly with silicone or a drop of very light machine oil. you may want a professional to do the job unless you are mechanically inclined. Hope this explains what is actually happening.
@marianacoronel1741
@marianacoronel1741 8 лет назад
Thank you! It's perfectly clear. Mine is a Noblex music center (MC 538). As I'm not into mechanics, I let somebody else repair it some months ago. I was told everything was fine but that the tonearm was a little bit light. Maybe this person didn't take care of this lever under the platter and that is what is giving me a hard time, just like you told me. Thank you again. I hope I can have it repaired soon.
@KraftGarde
@KraftGarde 3 года назад
It works for a CS 5000?
@chazdude7
@chazdude7 8 лет назад
The Stylus (needle) can be damaged during this procedure, if you're not careful!
@jaspervanpelt
@jaspervanpelt Год назад
How can I unlock the tonearm. It's locked because of travelling.
@awalrus1
@awalrus1 7 лет назад
Can I ask? On this exact model turntable, what is the process to replace the RCA cables, which are hard-wired into the inside of the turntable? I have this model and it seems the RCAs are pretty much shot, and tend to bring up a hum or various noises almost every time i play it. If i wiggle the RCAs i can get it "back" for a while, then it goes out again. Thanks, your video has been fantastic.
@TheIpodziak
@TheIpodziak 7 лет назад
Hi I had the same model and same issue got rid of old rca cable as it was making that annoying noise...a bit of soldering new rca cable and it works perfectly again 😀
@awalrus1
@awalrus1 7 лет назад
Thanks! Can you guide me as to what replacement cables I should buy to solder in? very much appreciated.
@TheIpodziak
@TheIpodziak 7 лет назад
awalrus1 hi I got a £5 cable from amazon..so you can use any rca cable but one thing I have to mention it can't be too thick ,it'll be hard to bend it where you need to solder it...as I said I used very basic 1m cable just cut off two ends for soldering and that'it trust me it's a half hour job 😀hope this helps
@thedevo01
@thedevo01 11 лет назад
Where can I buy that nifty tool from at 3:10?
@motodork
@motodork 3 года назад
Wait, don’t you adjust the counter balance?
@thomaslund5460
@thomaslund5460 8 лет назад
Why do you recommend setting the anti-skating higher than the needle pressure? I have a 505-3 with a 2M cartidge. Should I do the same?
@thestereoshop
@thestereoshop 8 лет назад
+Thomas Lund Over the years I have tested many turntables and found that setting the anti-skating higher than the recommend stylus pressure has resulted in better tracking when using test records. maybe some day I will do a youTube video on that.
@sergioescalante8884
@sergioescalante8884 5 лет назад
Hi, Could you please explain how to solve the problem when the piece that regulates the weight of the cardrige has been decalibrated?
@rickhill6475
@rickhill6475 7 лет назад
Unbelieveble, what a masterpiece from old scool PHILIPS from the old days, nowadays PHILIPS is sucks
@patrickmartin3727
@patrickmartin3727 7 лет назад
I didn't see him make sure tt was level
@topsyandpip56
@topsyandpip56 11 лет назад
A stylus tip is made out of diamond... it bouncing on a rubber mat isn't going to do anything
@hrios3747
@hrios3747 8 лет назад
hey,nice video and very instructional,i already have the same turntable but has some trouble with the noise,if you can pass x my chanel and see what happened i,ll apreciaded.thanks
@phantasm1004
@phantasm1004 11 лет назад
Excuse me, but the stylus didn't DROP on the mat! It just barely touched it. And as long as the platter isn't turning, there is negligible risk of damage. And then you're passing judgment on this guy on top of it. Yours is a VERY uninformed comment that was best left not posting.
@phantasm1004
@phantasm1004 11 лет назад
While this table can play even while upright, IT IS NOT RECOMMENDED THAT YOU DO THIS. This can only be done with DYNAMICALLY balanced arms. DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT try this with a table that has a STATICALLY balanced arm....very high risk of damage to stylus and record.
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