The Stonevault +10 KSM | TWW Beta | Holy Paladin POV 

Thanks! :)

At least make it aoe and not cone....

Hey MultiHord! Highly recommend Hpal in its current state - lots of fun! I kind of have a rotation, but also there is so many different procs that the most important thing you can do is pool resources and plan for the high damage events. That being said, here is a couple rotation pointers: -Hpal has a ton of different CDs so make sure you're always using something -To maximize your virtue window outside of cds do this: 5 Holy power > Beacon of Virtue > Eternal Flame/Word of Glory > Holy Shock > Eternal Flame/Word of Glory > Holy Shock -Holy Prism / Barrier of Faith is super strong atm because it gives you a free spender proc, a fast holy light cast, and good base healing. Think of this kind of like a combo button! -A general rotation outside of Beacon of Virtue is something like this: Spenders if @ 5 holy power > Judgment > Consecration > Holy Shock > Holy Prism > Crusader Strike > Hammer of Wrath. Might try and make a guide after I have some more time to beta test it / wait to see if blizz makes any more big changes. Hope this helps!

Yeah I'm an idiot lol oops.. wanted to see it for the first fight, but forgot to change after!

Hey @davidhughes4544 I believe Hpal feels super nice to play on beta right now (regardless of tuning). The buttons feel impactful and you have many utility options without too much bloat. HPS-wise, Herald of the Sun is outperforming Lightsmith. But Lightsmith can do a lot of damage. I pref playing Herald (plays smoother and more visually interesting with all the light beams haha), but it is cool casting sacred weapons + blessing of the seasons on my allies, kind of like Holy Priest in shadowlands using PI + Night Fae!

Hi Alejvie! thanks :) I'll figure out a way to share my UI as the expac gets closer - I'm still making a lot of tweaks / trying different stuff right now so I don't want to give people something that is unfinished or broken! Sorry if that's not the answer you're looking for.

Decided to try and make something. Could be buggy / work strange on retail, but here ya go! UI vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lNdbUZJ8Yq8.html

@@Jickolas Oh nice!!!

Yeah, not often used. Normally takes too much work to hit all 5 people (esp if you have casters in your party) + its just general undertuned atm.

Disclaimer, I only tested melee wings a little bit, but it felt pretty undertuned... at least in an m+ environment. I haven't really seen other players use it recently either. Personally, I don't think so. You would have more uptime on Gleaming Rays (hero talent that buffs spenders by 10%) because of the shortened cd, but taking melee wings makes Sun's Avatar only proc 2 dawnlights, not 4 like with regular wings, so it's not the insane increase in dawnlight procs we'd be hoping for :( You had some interesting ideas for Light of Dawn - I really liked the capstone idea. And I think Avenging Crusader suffers from a similar issue of not quite connecting with the rest of the paladin kit.

Melee wings is heavily undertuned. Sun's avatar has been nerfed around 3 times and represents not that much of our overall now so it doesn't make up for the straight up healing loss just for having wings every minute.

me big dumb forgot to change :)

Yup! Definitely gameplay, hopefully some other stuff too! :)