I was actually a bit let down by this documentary. Yes, it praised Soaps and their legacy, but my two points of complaint are, 1: not enough Soap actors were featured and 2: it focused too much on how soaps influenced primetime and reality tv, which by the way, I think soap stars and their writers and creators would it have rather focused on the soaps themselves and advocate for why soaps should still be popular. Personally, I think reality TV is crap. And primetime owes everything to daytime and yet in the world of Hollywood, daytime actors are seen as "lesser than" and not as skilled or talented because they're on a daytime drama. These actors deserve so much. I just feel the documentary didn't praise the genre enough.
What Lorraine Broderick just said...the kind of story Agnes Nixon told that opened "All My Children" with characters influenced by the Vietnam war. That is what we are missing in the current shows. We have an opioid epidemic, racism, sexuality, the Corona virus...and all we get are baby switches, the mob, who's the daddy? The shows still have potential if they just told the stories their genre was gifted by its pioneers to tell.
I am crossing my fingers toes and eyes that the rumor is true that all my children might be coming back. If so, and if they bring back the people who were associated with Agnes Nixon who made the show great, I bet you those are the exact type of story lines we'll be seeing.I don't think I've ever wanted a rumor to be true this much Before!!!
I have only watched one soap in my life, Days Of our Lives.....watching since 1980 when I was a young kid with my Mother and Grandmother. Even tho they have both passed on, I still watch Days daily for them so they know whats going on~
SOAP OPERA IS NEVER GOING AWAY.... GLORIA MONTY IS MY GOD!!! I WOULD LOVE TO CREATE A NEW SOAP BIBLE.. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT.. SINCE I WAS ABOUT 16.... I HAVE SOME AWESOME STORIES TO TELL... :D ... STAY TUNED....
Bill Bell was my favorite soap opera writer! He made me love The Young and the Restless. He was not a preachy "topical" issues writer. He incorporated "issues" into the story as an element. He did not use the art of the entertainment to preach at people. I loved All My Children, but Agnes Nixon had a totally different style of writing. She was all about issues, issues, issues. Shout out to Santa Barbara!
The youngins are now discovering the awesomeness of soaps and watching old episodes from the hay days. There are new super fans on the daily emerging and it's excellent
This was pretty much The story of ABC soaps. I watched all ABC soaps growing up. It was past through generations like they mentioned. There were so many other soaps though on other channels. I found Days of our lives through youtube. The Sonny/Will story has been amazing and told through almost 10 years. I don't believe shows like the real world or the housewives aren't some what scripted. I think Andy is a questionable character especially. He gave himself his own show and created fame for himself. What really destroyed soaps is money. They just don't make money anymore and that was briefly touched on with the VCR.
no mention of the soap opera Santa Barbara which was the first soap opera to be sold around the world to non speaking english countries . It was the first daytime soap to screen in France and Russia and was a massive success in both countries . It screened all around the world !! look up Santa Barbara on wikipedia ! that's not acceptable santa barbara was not mentionned . Jill Farren phelps was executive producer on that soap and it was not featured in the list of her executive prooducer positions in her interview in this documentary . Good lord you mention the american daytime soaps all over the world and people will mention Santa Barbara , the bold and the beautiful , the young and the restless and days of our lives ! the international spread and success of the american daytime soap opera should have been covered in this documentary !
Thanks for posting. I had no way to see it otherwise. It certainly was 75% ABC soaps featured, not very fair. Now if we could just get a streaming service that had all the episodes of all the soaps past and present, I'd have a lot of good programming at hand! Maybe one day......
RU-vid is a treasure trove of classic daytime. Check out "bandstandmike" & "BlackDahlia1972", for Guiding Light, in particular! They have YEARS of that show, in it's entirety! 😘
Hell, the sex and torrid affairs are half the fun! Watching characters you grow to love, fall in love with eachother and weather storm after storm, is another part of it. Then there's the slaps and catfights 😂
NBC shows might have been funny, but growing up as a granddaughter, niece, and youngest of 3 sisters devoted to ABC soaps, that was our mandatory viewing on breaks from school, starting with Ryan's Hope at 11:00 am and running through the end of Edge of Night at 3:30. As crazy as it is, it's not the famous faces that went on to be something big in the celebrity industry that stuck with me, and I can remember minute details of those fictional lives better than some of our real ones. For instance, I can tell you that Blackie worked at the Bucket of Blood bar, Jenny worked at the "gentleman's club" Foxy's on AMC, Scott blackmailed Heather into getting down at the Creighton (sp?) Hotel on General Hospital, the Port Charles Grille was filled with ferns thanks to that 70s-80s fern bar thing, and the BEST death on any ABC daytime soap EVER was Lily going click-click-BOOM in Sonny's car!!! Also, there was impressive audacity to the villainous undertakings--like the many mob storylines stretching back across time from the time of Sonny back to Luke's entree on the canvas, the Soviets choosing to infiltrate a family of rich doctors and CEOs in a town nowhere near anything remotely connected to military installations and defense targets, and freezing the world just a jumping off point for the elaborate plans that made evil synonymous with Casadine. However, I think the winning phenomenon in the odyssey of oddities they gave us involved all the /rock star occurrences. Rick Springfield was a surgeon/rock star. Ned Quartermaine was a CEO/rock star. Blackie was a street tough/rock star. Frisco was a cop-turned-World Security Bureau agent/rock star (or vice versa, technically). Heck, even the vampire Caleb was a /rock star, because obviously the only thing that can make up from being able to live openly as an uber-cool vampire those anti-vampers like to stake is to invite all sorts of public scrutiny as a secret uber-cool vampire/famously uber-cool rock star!
I’m glad I missed the original airing just because it was broadcast on ABC doesn’t mean it had to be biased!!! The majority of the show focused on ABC soaps mainly GH 🙄
@@bluedragon4 - I thought they did a good job with discussing the history and how advertisers came on board. I'm not going to fault ABC for concentrating on GH, I wouldn't expect them to concentrating on CBS or NBC.
Whenever my husband sees the guy who played Franco on days in the 90s, he says, "Looks, it's me" because he always used to answer his (flip) phone with "it's me."
I liked the documentary although it really should've been 10 hours like The Last Dance because soap opera history is really rich and extensive that's it's impossible to cover it all in 2 hours. I wanted every single soap covered in-depth. The reality part ruined it a little bit and Andy Cohen was annoying like it turned into a promotion for Bravo and Real Housewives. The only reality mention that made sense was Pedro from Real World because it correlated with the importance of the Robin & Stone storyline but outside of that, they wasted 30 minutes which could've spotlighted the soaps that weren't mentioned.
To any one in desighn the original capwell mancion manly the atrium was the best set in daytime or nightime ever !!! Santa barbara did brilliant with that set!!
how come when they started talking about and showing the primetime soaps they didnt show and talk about Peyton Place first?because that was the first prime time soap opera.it might not have been big but like i said it was the first primetime soap opera
Watching the oj sequence makes me think...the reason why oj trial was sooo popular was because it was old school soap .interesting characters and drawn out playing all beats thats when everyone watched soaps ...now its short scenes...no beats just quick fast pace god back in the day we would wait over a year for a story to peak in anticipation!! So many twists and turns!! No they deliver within weeks ....no fun any more
It seems very interesting to me that the soap opera's daytime brother, the game show, seems to be thriving, while soaps have essentially died. I think it has to do with simple, light, happy television and that people crave that. I think nowadays, reality has gotten too real for people and they seek escape.
Soaps have come a long way. Soaps started on TV back in Spring 1944 when NYC's then WABD-TV (now WNYW-TV) experimented with popular radio soaps Big Sister and Aunt Jenny's Real Life Stories giving both of them a brief trial run. These Are My Children was credited as being the first daytime TV soap that debuted in 1949, despite it being short-lived. Other soaps, like Guiding Light, As The World Turns, General Hospital, Days Of Our Lives, One Life To Live, All My Children, and The Young & The Restless would go on to enjoy longevity records. Radio... Painted Dreams was credited as the first ever daytime soap, starting on radio in 1930 and ran till 1943. Guiding Light started on radio in 1937, transitioned to TV in 1952, radio version ending in 1956, and ran till 2009. Prior to TV and radio, there was the vaudeville circuit, periodical publications, and soaps evolving during that time. Over the years... Dark Shadows was a cult classic. Capitol was credited for being years ahead of its time. The Bold & The Beautiful having a huge international following. Telenovelas are a big deal in Latin America. Coronation Street is longest-running UK soap. Soaps have also been famous for launching the careers of big names like Meg Ryan, Julianne Moore, Eva Longoria, Eva La Rue, Nathan Fillion, and Christine Boranaki, to name a few. Movie and prime-time TV stars, including Jeanne Cooper, Ruth Warrick, Joan Bennett, Carolyn Jones, God rest their souls, as well as Carol Burnett, and Alley Mills, reinvented themselves by transitioning to soap acting. Broadway actors and actresses have done soaps as well. Soaps have also carved out the niche of addressing socially relevant issues, aside from character/plot development methods.
Since this TV special aired... NBC's long-running soap Days Of Our Lives moved over to Peacock streaming service, and it'll be interesting to see whether soaps transitioning to streaming service, like Peacock, Paramount+, Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu could give daytime soaps a new lease on life. Reviving canceled soaps may be very slim, as in there being little to no chance of it happening, unless it can be done successfully, and it be done right. I could also see the streaming services exploring acquiring reruns of canceled soaps, and having surviving episodes digitally remastered for future generations to enjoy. Perhaps Peacock airing reruns of Sunset Beach and Passions, as well as them acquiring reruns of additional former NBC soaps like Santa Barbara (or if Peacock/NBC-Universal could acquire ownership of it), and maybe even The Doctors (soap that ran 1963-1982, and not the recent talk show of the same name) and Generations for soap fans who wish to see episodes again. Perhaps Paramount+ exploring acquiring reruns of former CBS soaps Capitol, The Secret Storm, and Love Of Life. I would anticipate The Young & The Restless and The Bold & The Beautiful making the leap to Paramount+ at some point as well. Maybe Hulu wishing to stream current and former ABC soaps, like General Hospital, One Life To Live, All My Children, Loving/The City, Ryan's Hope, and Dark Shadows. I could also see Peacock and Paramount+ looking into acquiring reruns (or maybe acquiring ownership) of Procter & Gamble soaps, like As The World Turns, Guiding Light, Another World, and the AW spin-offs Somerset and Texas, as well as The Edge Of Night, and Search For Tomorrow. It's a thought. Only time will tell if this becomes reality.
I really wanted to see what it was like writing a soap opera. This show just kind of flaunts the idea of how “amazing” and impactful soap operas were. I also wish there were more people who argued against the format, and what we could get out of the documentary should be left up to interpretation.
GLORIA MONTY HAD WORK ETHIC.. I THINK LAZINESS IS A BIG PROBLEM TODAY IN SHOWS... ESPECIALLY DAYTIME DRAMA... PUT IN THE WORK...MAKE YOUR SHOWS THE BEST... THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX... THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD GIVE US REPETITIVE STORY AND WE WOULD ALWAYS EAT IT UP... BUT TODAY'S AUDIENCE IS SO MUCH SMARTER AND YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE SO MANY INTERESTS... WORK HARDER EXECS.... WRITERS, AND ACTORS.... PERIOD POOH...
Reality TV blows. Soaps are freaking aces! Or they used to be anyways. They've lost that exciting experience they used to give in the past decade but I have all hopes that they can get it back
1:23:05 does anyone know who this woman is? The documentary made me cry because I never got the chance to experience what everyone else felt in these soap operas.😭
Best stories ever.....the mitch janice mac rachel quadrangle another world....susan baldwins murder general hospitol...the promethius disc general hispitol...the affair of jimmylee and celia general hispitol...channing capwell murder santa barbara...cc life support plug pulled story santa barbara...greg and jenny story all my children...kim rae micheal murder ryans hope...god i miss when soaps told storys like these...
Soaps could come back!! Heres simple things that need ti be done...a full theme song and a full clising credit crawl ..we identified with our show and was actually proud when we heard our shows theme!!...networks must show more promos yes it will cist miney but if u build it they will come!!!...make the scenes longer then 30 seconds you cant invest when the scene is shorter then a commercial.do slice of life scenes you know like a mother and daughter bonding...and altho yes u need longer scenes i think you should cut from 60 mins to 30 people dont have time fir 6o mins 5 days a week!!! ...just a few ideas what do u have to lose execs?? Ni ine watching now anyway try something crazy like di it like when you kno they were crazy popular yes times have changed but not that much!!
I miss another world soooi much but in retrosoect im glad it ended in 99 because it ended when soaos were still goid id hate to see what it would loik like today. Shirt dicey empty scenes...shallow character development...the only pisitive thing i can say about soaos tiday is that thier visually stunning!!!! But thats also its problem beautiful to loik at but no heart any more
I actually think quite the opposite.As I just posted in another thread, I've been hearing rumors for awhile about all my children coming back.I was too scared to believe them because I've missed that show every single day since those fools canceled it.But when Jacob young recently said it in an online interview, I'm now daring to hope the rumors are true. And I hope the show Was to remind people how good the soaps were so they'll Tunein. I certainly will!!!!
no mention of william j bell who created the soaps the young and the restless and the bold and the beautiful . this is a disgrace ! those shows have been sold with huge success around the world
@Jozar S. They mentioned Irna and Agnes Nixon but definitely should have at least mentioned Bill Bell considering they impact and legacy he left on daytime tv.
Wow I can't believe they didn't mention Judith Light's KAREN WOLEK on OLTL... Her trial scene is just one of the most memorable and amazing scenes ever... I didn't like this documentary
Berkeley Farmers I am not into reality TV shows second there is nothing like soap operas stop is disrespecting soap operas OJ Simpson shouldn't even be in the same category as a soap opera so don't even go there watch yourself people
I could care less about the OJ Simpson trial as far as I'm concerned it ruin any chance well I hated it because it interrupted my soap opera All My Children One Life to Live General Hospital back in the 80s and 90s that ruined my time with my soap opera so 🖕
He didn't just kill Ron Goldman and his wife but he killed any chance we could have watched our daytime soap operas and then this guy basically says the more of a soap opera than a soap opera now people want and I also agree with this and you see hell no reality TV no hell no I want to go away from those kind of things that's why I watch my soap operas to get away from minutes to get away from me some of that I would even car jump TV more like reality TV meets Mad TV give us back our daytime TV give us back all my children and One Life to Live and General Hospital and f*** the news bad enough we have covid-19 now and that's another thing that's killing our soap the only one left
Omg!!! This is deoressing and telling im checking back 5 days later in of all the countrys thus particular channel has showed this its only 5000 views!!! Sad sad sad .im sorry people just dont care about soaps any more and as i saud in previous posts without oromotion it wont....even the batchelouer would be a dud without promotion ...cmon networks promote and theyll come back otherwise thier a silent scream!! God networks loik me up i can put your shit back on the map!!!!
No no no no no a thousand times no it is not love when you were raped someone that is power and control not love not intimacy rate is a violent act on a woman's body what the f--- people
Not even a little bit true I want to know about the real world I don't want to watch the news I want to watch my stories the real world can separate but I turn on my stories but I turn on my soaps I don't want to know about the real world I don't want to know about reality TV that's not my genre get out
The biggest problems with soap is the style. It’s a mass-produced, cheaply-made money machine that yes touches on important social issues, yes is beloved the world around, but it’s a five-episodes-per-week push-‘em-out style of showmaking that demands corner-cutting, over-the-top storylines and acting to match, and a general feeling of cheapness.
I honestly don't see how man can't let men could easily love them too if they wanted to not just women that kind of comes off sexes it's the year 2020 and mannequin life them almost as much as we do
I’m really irked by this show..so they mention then Luke and Laura rape but if I’m not wrong the Roger and Holly rape took place first 😒😒!!! #GuidingLight
