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The Strange History of Affinity and Artifacts with Frank Karsten 

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@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Find all decklists from the video (and more!) at: bit.ly/3XY3kAq
@udhh2619
@udhh2619 2 месяца назад
I played the heck out of broodstar deck
@dem7556
@dem7556 2 месяца назад
The change of thumbnail really made a difference
@ryunocore
@ryunocore 2 месяца назад
Commenting to support Carl's quest to do longform videos with disproportionate amounts of effort compared to Top 5 ones.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you 🙏 I really want to do more of these :) Magic has so much more history to explore!
@ryunocore
@ryunocore 2 месяца назад
​@@CardmarketMagic Please keep at it, and know your Shrek references were very appreciated.
@lottasha
@lottasha 2 месяца назад
Yess i want to eat up every single magic history video
@crisjiandennington991
@crisjiandennington991 2 месяца назад
Doing the same
@AEtherPi
@AEtherPi 2 месяца назад
Seconding
@Breadcutter
@Breadcutter 2 месяца назад
For the algorithm: It is sad that the way how the youtube game plays out, videos like this are discouraged, since they are in a way a piece of art. And thusly they have a merit of theit own. These insights into magic are always great and serve a purpose. Magic has been around for so long that some of these cards and stories feel like actual history documentaries about ancient history… which crazy to me since this is a card game
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
It is indeed a card game, but what makes it feel like history is the people :) especially the pioneers in the early days of the game like Frank. I really hope you like this one!
@RipSkin5
@RipSkin5 2 месяца назад
Adding to the algorithm to support a great channel making all sorts of videos they enjoy! 😁
@Breadcutter
@Breadcutter 2 месяца назад
@@CardmarketMagic I did and you are right what makes these videos great is the voices of people that care so much for this game and thank you for that. This really felt like a Rhystic Studies video, shows how great and varied you guys are as content creators.
@benlittle5543
@benlittle5543 2 месяца назад
Bump
@MathisGries-ml5qv
@MathisGries-ml5qv 2 месяца назад
For the algorithm
@rhysticbuddy61
@rhysticbuddy61 2 месяца назад
Not only did you do an amazing job, you got Frank MF Karsten to speak on it!!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Frank is such a legend :D
@AwkwardDreamer
@AwkwardDreamer 2 месяца назад
They've got some other videos playing with him! They're amazing!
@DefeatLaps
@DefeatLaps 2 месяца назад
Clicked because I thought it was Rhystic Studies just based off of the thumbnail and length. Instead, it's my other beloved MTG channel. I'm not upset in the slightest, I love these longform history videos. Would be cool if someone with schedule control let these nice passion projects fill the vast empty spaces that exist between other longform channels' uploads.
@ItsYaBoyTroy
@ItsYaBoyTroy 2 месяца назад
"And we all remember that episode of the French revolution" absolutely killed me...and the Queen for that matter lol A mix of good history and good humor! Always a fan of these types of videos!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I'm really happy you enjoyed it :D
@xpeterx
@xpeterx 2 месяца назад
i haven't made it further than that in the video yet, but the history intro alone makes this a great video. good job, carl
@TheLarch
@TheLarch 2 месяца назад
Commenting to help justify long-form history videos.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your tribute to the yourube gods 🫡
@The-Ertai
@The-Ertai 2 месяца назад
Love long form Carl! Justified 🎉
@Elyasserg
@Elyasserg 2 месяца назад
Please continue to make these long form deck history videos Carl, they genuinely are one of the few videos I'll never skip from cardmarket
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I'll try my best 🫡 but I'm really happy you enjoyed this :)
@devinanni8117
@devinanni8117 2 месяца назад
This deck really made my affinity for magic grow.
@shieldgenerator7
@shieldgenerator7 2 месяца назад
i see what you did there
@MuffleJuice-bx8oe
@MuffleJuice-bx8oe 2 месяца назад
Affinity has always been one of my favorite mechanics in the game if it’s artifacts you can just add the card without thinking too much about it thank you for all of the history I love how the channel has grown
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I really hope you enjoy this one :)
@crawdaddy2004
@crawdaddy2004 2 месяца назад
I like the mechanic from a game design perspective, but the thing we often learn is this: Cost reduction mechanics are dangerous. Delve: Treasure Cruise, Dig through Time Phyrexian mana: Gitaxian Probe, Dismember Affinity (for artifacts): *watches video* I would be willing to bet that, if you counted the number of banned cards in non-rotating formats that cost zero mana and/or had a way to reduce its cost, it would have the highest number by a long shot.
@alexkuzela9266
@alexkuzela9266 2 месяца назад
Hey, more Frank! Always good to see him over here. I greatly look forward to the next few episodes of the old world championship decks.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately, this video was done in a call. We have not recorded any more World Championship videos with Frank. But maybe again some day :)
@alexkuzela9266
@alexkuzela9266 2 месяца назад
@@CardmarketMagic I figured as much. I have no idea what the travel time is between your two areas, but I imagine it's not exactly pleasant.
@seancpp
@seancpp 2 месяца назад
@@CardmarketMagic The World Championship series with Frank are my favorite videos on your channel
@stanislav328
@stanislav328 2 месяца назад
@@alexkuzela9266 a lot better than some other guests they have on. Cardmarket is based in Germany and Frank is from The Netherlands. I imagine it's just that Frank is a very busy man, unlike Mengucci, the LRR crew, or the people from MTGGoldfish, his job isn't content creation, so it's probably harder to justify taking a few days off to do something like this.
@isaacz1998
@isaacz1998 2 месяца назад
I would love to see more content like this! You guys are easily my favorite MTG channel and I'm always looking forward to your next video, keep up the incredible work!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you :) I really hope I get to start doing more of these history videos! Magic has such a wild past
@craigrgriffin
@craigrgriffin 2 месяца назад
I love the deep dive lore videos you do, and I especially love any excuse to listen to Frank Karsten speak more ❤
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Frank is a gem :)
@JesperoTV
@JesperoTV 2 месяца назад
Oh wow! This video single-handedly allowed me to get my degree, fixed my car, and cured my cat of epilepsy! No other form of video could do that! The Cardmarket higher-ups would be fools not to let Carl do more of these, as this is nothing short of a miracle!
@wesmorris3529
@wesmorris3529 Месяц назад
Hands down these are absolutely the best MTG videos on the internet i lived through all of this stuff and hearing everything i already knew with the reciepts to back it up makes me happy to know those time won't be forgotten.
@Varler_
@Varler_ 2 месяца назад
I really appreciate these videos. Despite everyone saying, "Anything you put on the internet is there forever," there's increasingly more lost media and lost history because people just don't care enough to archive it or tell its story. So, having historical snapshots like this is valuable for those of us who are interested.
@Schneeeinhorn
@Schneeeinhorn 2 месяца назад
3:45 i didnt know there was a framed mokey mokey art at the office, thats awesome
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
It's our colossal dreadmaw for Yu-Gi-Oh :) we are big Mokey Mokey fans
@SSDriscool
@SSDriscool 2 месяца назад
The early affinity for artifacts era just sounds like modern day Yu-Gi-Oh
@andre51605
@andre51605 2 месяца назад
well, for some reason most of it is still running free in Pauper
@RipSkin5
@RipSkin5 2 месяца назад
It’s fascinating to watch these as someone who started in Battle for Zendikar, I’m an engrained player with a bunch of experience, but I never went through prior major events and they’re fascinating to get an introspective of ☺️
@TaisxD
@TaisxD 2 месяца назад
After a line of videos with much higher tempo, silly premises and a lot of views, this feels like a return to something that feels like a passion project. These history videos with Karsten are some of the best things I've seen on youtube and I wish the algorith loved them more. Just know that you are contributing to keep an important piece of history alive for a lot of people who heavily enjoy it. Thank you!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you :)
@gsamasgaz
@gsamasgaz 2 месяца назад
Karl, this video is exceptional. I lived the days of the Mirrodin block when I was in uni, and I remember reading all that you have told us in the video both in magazines and internet. This was a very emotional video. I hope your bosses let you keep doing this type of stuff.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Oh I wish I had access to those magazines! It was so hard finding information about what was only 20 years ago 🤯 I'm really thrilled that you enjoyed the video :) have a wonderful day
@gsamasgaz
@gsamasgaz 2 месяца назад
@@CardmarketMagic I now live in the UK, but next time I go back to my parents in Spain I will try to find them if those magazines. They would be in Spanish though, they were called Urza (the first and most famous in Spain) and Serra. Just one more thing; your videos are fantastic, they have rekindled my interest in magic after 20 years of not playing. I am about to buy my first commander deck using cardmarket. That is my bit of support for you guys
@ImNotPoppyAtAll
@ImNotPoppyAtAll 2 месяца назад
this is one of the most perfect videos i've ever seen in this platform. the storytelling, the pace, the jokes and the knowledge. just amazing! i really hope Carl continues to do videos like this, i would watch them again and again just for support!
@SalaryMan..
@SalaryMan.. 2 месяца назад
I want to really say I appreciate the team that makes these videos. The writing, direction and editing lead to a really great storytelling style that is very engaging. You guys normally put out really good content but somehow you keep upping the level. Great job.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately, there isn't really a team making these. That is why I always have to ask for engagement when I make them. They take me months on the side of making regular videos. I really hope one day they pick up as much as our gameplay videos, which take much less time, so that I get to make more of them :) luckily I get to pick the brain of incredible people like Frank & Tobi for the videos
@SalaryMan..
@SalaryMan.. 2 месяца назад
@@CardmarketMagic All the more impressive! Fantastic work all around.
@SolarFlorad
@SolarFlorad 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for this history dive. I enjoyed watching this very much.
@mattmaass3920
@mattmaass3920 Месяц назад
Carl, these history style videos make the channel Much More Substantial.
@doctorexam6164
@doctorexam6164 2 месяца назад
Hardened scales is my modern deck of choice, quite fun and similar play patterns to early affinity, and I am glad to learn about its past (indirectly).
@almand_frappuccino
@almand_frappuccino 2 месяца назад
these are literally my favorite types of videos on the channel
@codyt372
@codyt372 2 месяца назад
I love these longform videos. Not only do I feel like I know more (as someone who started playing in 2022). But also, learning about little anecdotes like the ornithopter story. This long-form content is a lot more interesting and the extra effort is well-noticed. Maybe not by the algorithm, but by magic fans.
@Unelar
@Unelar 2 месяца назад
These are my favorite type of videos. Just a pleasure to listen to Tobi and Frank
@Breadcutter
@Breadcutter 2 месяца назад
Oh affinity, spells costing 0 mana would never be a problem or inspire toxic playpatterns…
@jefl3228
@jefl3228 2 месяца назад
Luckily they learned from their mistakes and never printed 0 cost spells again…
@Breadcutter
@Breadcutter 2 месяца назад
@@jefl3228 cries in modern horizons X
@marcoottina654
@marcoottina654 2 месяца назад
Soon we'll have "negative cost" spells: spells that adds you mana or cards in hand as an alternative casting cost. Yes, no other costs: just mana and/or cards added. 2025, I believe in you
@917rommel
@917rommel 2 месяца назад
​@@marcoottina654Dark ritual from alpha. Magic just like Richard Garfield phd intended
@XTimTheEnchanterX
@XTimTheEnchanterX 2 месяца назад
YES THANK YOU Carl and co, bringing the people exactly the content they want, and I'm the people.
@matteopagliarini6599
@matteopagliarini6599 2 месяца назад
History of Magic is really fascinating, and to hear it from the protagonists themselves is a real blast!
@TheSilverGekko
@TheSilverGekko 2 месяца назад
YES! I was just rewatching the history of Jund video before this. More!
@moritzgraf9472
@moritzgraf9472 2 месяца назад
Exactly the kind of non-gameplay content for magic i like to watch!
@jaredwonnacott9732
@jaredwonnacott9732 2 месяца назад
I'm basically that guy that destroyed you and your vampire deck when you first started playing. I teach kids to play Magic after school, and whemever a kid thinks they've solved the game, I pull out my old Affinity deck (with some updates), and just rip them apart. I want everyone to know there's always a bigger fish out there so they never get too complacent or prideful.
@mus0u
@mus0u 2 месяца назад
these thoroughly researched histories of the game are a lot more compelling viewing than the clickbait treadmill. more of these please!
@phillip__smith
@phillip__smith 2 месяца назад
Favorite Magic channel running. Loved this look at MTG history! Thanks team!
@arretez1512
@arretez1512 2 месяца назад
Need more like this! Magic has a rich history and we need historians to tell the stories.
@onewithsin
@onewithsin 2 месяца назад
The shin kick bully line resonates with me deeply. Wish I had that mentality as a child.
@Travis7060312
@Travis7060312 2 месяца назад
I love these videos and hope you get to keep doing them! Sharing with all my mtg friends
@Meddling_Mage
@Meddling_Mage 2 месяца назад
Please continue making these insightful MTG history videos!
@aryst0krat
@aryst0krat 2 месяца назад
This video about the history of affinity and artifacts is a really great video, and I'm glad Carl was able to make it thanks to his bosses seeing all of the supportive comments like this one.
@FrankBlizzard
@FrankBlizzard 2 месяца назад
These longer history videos are so cool and so interesting to watch!
@alastairchong4824
@alastairchong4824 2 месяца назад
Pls keep makin these long form videos Carl n Cardmarket team! Love learning about magic history and having Frank come on is a great treat 🥰
@Yodel1ngS0up
@Yodel1ngS0up 2 месяца назад
I love the long form videos!!! Carl always does fantastic work, and they are amazing to watch!!!
@TheBirdOfParadox
@TheBirdOfParadox 2 месяца назад
Yay, Frank Karsten back on the channel! I love these deep dives into Magic History, its so fascinating
@JimFaindel
@JimFaindel 2 месяца назад
This is the kind of history of the game that makes me love it even more.
@xxlpulselxx
@xxlpulselxx 2 месяца назад
3 minutes in and this is already one of the better "magic history" videos ive seen. Great job Carl!
@gagepursifull7670
@gagepursifull7670 2 месяца назад
These are definitely my favorite types of videos. I often watch while doing other things, so gameplay videos are tough to watch
@zanphuis
@zanphuis 2 месяца назад
As someone who doesnt play magic but loves this channel, i enjoy videos that delve into the rich history of the game. Seeing that your editor in chief is a main part of the history of this deck was a big reveal to me that made me enjoy the video all the more
@jondargel1496
@jondargel1496 2 месяца назад
Literally, the ONLY group u never imagined being in this Channel. I saw them when i was 19, and the shirt is still upstairs. Thanj you drumeo. That was AMAZING
@lora5030
@lora5030 2 месяца назад
I love your history videos, and I think they are invaluable. It's really important that you always include interviews with people who have a real attachment to the subject of the video so it never feels like a dry recap of events. Tbh, I always get a bit sentimental by the end even though I witnessed none of it and don't have a personal connection. I hope Cardmarket bosses allow you to make more of videos like this.
@Freddisred
@Freddisred 2 месяца назад
The first 3 minutes alone were incredibly informative and compelling, cool video.
@MarsBarszs
@MarsBarszs 2 месяца назад
This format has quickly become my favorite format you put out.
@davidhansen5067
@davidhansen5067 2 месяца назад
Thank you for bringing Frank Karsten on! He's my favorite pro Magic player, and I love all the videos you make featuring him.
@kevxjn
@kevxjn 2 месяца назад
Carl explaining archetypes is my favourite content on RU-vid ❤
@HappySinnar
@HappySinnar 2 месяца назад
Ever since the Weird History of Red Decks, I've wanted to watch another of these history videos, so super psyched to finally have another one!
@dannyk7392
@dannyk7392 Месяц назад
I really appreciate the longer projects. IDK what the statistics look like, but to me I feel like I come back to them again and again.
@elzard101
@elzard101 2 месяца назад
Please Please Please more of these! It is the direction of information about MTG that I have wanted for years!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I'm really happy you enjoy these :) hopefully I get to make more
@donovans8904
@donovans8904 2 месяца назад
Carl, if you can see this, I love every deep dive video you’ve made in this vein and am eagerly waiting for the next. You do such a good job exploring every aspect while still keeping it an entertaining watch/listen. Thank you and please make more!
@jacksonstein8866
@jacksonstein8866 2 месяца назад
These long form videos are incredible and Ive been loving Carl’s approach to the creative direction of this channel!
@alexanderbartlett4931
@alexanderbartlett4931 2 месяца назад
This history belongs to be told and I am so glad you guys are eternalizing it!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you! I am thrilled that you enjoy this kind of video :D
@KingSolomonJedidiah
@KingSolomonJedidiah 2 месяца назад
Comment for the algorithm, but also as appreciation for the work put into these videos by Carl and the crew. You guys make some of the highest quality mtg content.
@aaron18515
@aaron18515 2 месяца назад
The transitions into interviews are perfect
@norahporter4075
@norahporter4075 2 месяца назад
beautiful job! love the longer history videos, especially as someone who never got to play magic then. keep it up cardmarket!
@Simon-ow6td
@Simon-ow6td 2 месяца назад
These kinds of videos are by far the best and most important content you make :)
@nickjoseph77
@nickjoseph77 2 месяца назад
I really love when you do documentary episodes. You put emotion and story into them that make me care about something as small as the history of affinity.
@Gaming_Duck
@Gaming_Duck 2 месяца назад
These are always my favorite videos from the crew!
@pitmaster226
@pitmaster226 2 месяца назад
Really appreciate high effort videos like this, thank you
@whirlbladewing2524
@whirlbladewing2524 2 месяца назад
It's always nice to see longer form videos like this, especially from Carl and his enthusiasm! Hopefully more of these can be done and we can see more like it!!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I'm really happy you enjoyed it :)
@philcolton5933
@philcolton5933 2 месяца назад
Always a treat to hear from Karsten. Very insightful and thorough.
@zanecord
@zanecord 2 месяца назад
I love these magic history lessons! They're always really well done and interesting. I think the firsthand knowledge Frank brings to the video is a highlight for me, and I love documentary style edits you do. Please keep making more, Carl! :D
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I'm really happy you enjoyed this :) hopefully I get to make more!
@TheMorbidHobo
@TheMorbidHobo 2 месяца назад
Always love these history videos with Frank.
@violaknapp7904
@violaknapp7904 2 месяца назад
It's so cool to look back at Magic's history and see how and why things changed and what impacts it had later on. And having someone like Frank Karsten who knows the ins and outs of seemingly every nuance is the best way to learn about it!
@daredewley9231
@daredewley9231 2 месяца назад
I love this type of retrospective from y'all. Great stuff!
@joe.5103
@joe.5103 2 месяца назад
I love competitive mtg lore like this. It’s my favorite form of content right now.
@homebrewed
@homebrewed 2 месяца назад
These videos always get me charged up! I remember being a kid with a old empty Cade Cod chip bucket with my first Magic: the Gathering cards I kept in my attic crawlspace from the Portal 2 player starter set. I started playing Magic back around the time when Mirrodin first came out and its still one of my favorite sets of all time. Good ole Disciple plays! Hearing about the old past of Magic and the stories directly from such high caliber players like Frank and with you being as passionate and energetic about the subject makes for an amazing watch!
@matttriggs1268
@matttriggs1268 2 месяца назад
Really enjoyed this video - would love more longform content like this.
@raven6717
@raven6717 2 месяца назад
Yes please!! Love the longer form stuff. Would love for you to be able to keep doing then at least every once in a while!!
@TheTokenlord
@TheTokenlord 2 месяца назад
Carl, you outdid yourself with this one - absolutely loved the way this was put together. I'm also totally with Frank: I miss modern affinity, always loved playing it while we still could!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it :D and modern Affinity is such a wonderful deck :) so incredibly powerful but so easy to hose out at the same time. I'm one of the people who think they could unban the artifact lands 👀
@gamptrak
@gamptrak 2 месяца назад
The strange history videos are some of my favourite videos that the Cardmarket team puts out. So much insight into this awesome game. Thank you so much Carl!
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your kind comment :) I put a lot of work into these so it's really appreciated!
@judgemoffatt4326
@judgemoffatt4326 2 месяца назад
I love seeing Carl doing these forms of videos. Wouldn't mind seeing more!
@TowersPreston
@TowersPreston 2 месяца назад
As a new player these videos have been an excellent history lesson of prevalent archetypes and how they shaped the game. Please keep making these videos!!
@alexnunes6389
@alexnunes6389 2 месяца назад
Commenting so that the management knows that these videos are really one of the best of the channel
@roklavric5199
@roklavric5199 2 месяца назад
Tought these was a new rystic study video when I clicked on it. Got supper confused when I saw Carl. Loved it tho. Yall did a supper good job.
@jplayers206
@jplayers206 2 месяца назад
Affinity has been my favorite archetype since I get stomped by it when starting playing. I've been playing it since it have my own money to buy my cards and I try to collect all the cards that have been part of the list during its history. Great video!
@TheDrakesandman
@TheDrakesandman 2 месяца назад
These are probably my favorite videos the channel does these days, I cant wait for the next one!
@josecarlosgravepeon4540
@josecarlosgravepeon4540 2 месяца назад
As a lot of other people in the comments, im here to support Carl's mission to do story of videos or just longer videos in general. They are really good and I hope we get more of them.
@Miluric
@Miluric 2 месяца назад
The way you edit together the different interviews and weave in your own commentary is peak. Hope you can make as many of these history videos as you want!
@comradeviolet
@comradeviolet 2 месяца назад
these mini documentaries about magic's history are some of my fav content y'all make!! this is literally my fav magic channel on youtube!!
@Fantom_210
@Fantom_210 2 месяца назад
Magic history videos are great for people that got in the game later. I started in 2014 and love these types of videos.
@Thorg42
@Thorg42 2 месяца назад
Thank you Carl. Frank. Tobi. Cardmarket. I was never a fan of affinity, but this is a video ill encourage, a game ive loved, and content I never stop appreciating. Thanks!
@ArenaceousWave
@ArenaceousWave 2 месяца назад
I discovered your magic history series like yesterday and binged them ever since. One of the best magic formats on RU-vid, amazing work.
@CardmarketMagic
@CardmarketMagic 2 месяца назад
Thank you :) I'm really happy you enjoy them! I'll do my best to make some more
@ArenaceousWave
@ArenaceousWave 2 месяца назад
@@CardmarketMagic if you ever don't know what do, the history of the Legacy format would be an insane topic.
@techwizsmith7963
@techwizsmith7963 2 месяца назад
The pacing in this is amazing, kept my attention the whole way through
@Ondas563
@Ondas563 2 месяца назад
Really love the long form content! Please keep making these, they're my favourite style of video
@el_pablodocus
@el_pablodocus Месяц назад
Amazing series. Well worth the hard work behind it, thank you Carl and Karsten !
@paulwinkler7303
@paulwinkler7303 2 месяца назад
This was Beautiful! Please let Carl do more of these!
@theRazzleDazzleDorito
@theRazzleDazzleDorito 2 месяца назад
This is my favourite kind of video on youtube. The historic approach to magic scratches my brain in the best way possible
@EZ__Chicken
@EZ__Chicken 2 месяца назад
I watch basically every card kingdom video that comes out. I love this format so much as a magic nerd. I started playing when original Eldraine came out so I missed out on alot of this stuff. I love learning about the history. Please do more of this!
@BerlitzSama
@BerlitzSama 2 месяца назад
I absolutely love this kind of content. Please, keep it coming, it's so nice to see the history of the game told by the legends that contributed to it
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