This old abandoned mine has the oddest crushing mill I have ran into. Also has a very interesting power system. / hamhomestead / hamhomestead Email: HamHomestead@outlook.com
Ham Homestead -- Actually , Chilean Mills were fairly common as they were a lot quieter than a Stamp Mill (VERY Noisy) . The crushing wheels rolled in a circular pattern much like the old Spanish Arrastra's , whereas with a Stamp Mill , you had heavy Stamps weighing several Hundred pounds slamming down onto the Ore to crush it . Excellent diagrams of the various types of Crushers & Mills can be found on Pages 361 to 367 in the '' Handbook for Prospectors and Operators of Small Mines '' by : M. W. von Bernewitz - Fourth Edition 1943 , from the McGraw - Hill Book Co. , Inc. . ---- ( I have an original Hardbound edition , but I've seen recent Paperback editions at places where they sell Prospecting Supplies . ) . -- < Doc , Miner for nearly 50 years > .
I have watched most of your mine videos. I always planned on going to Eastern Oregon and explore the mines but after 24 years in the military I was too crippled up to cross that off my bucket list so your videos make me feel like I am there. Thanks!
I am glad I found you. I absolutely love rocks, minerals, and the history of mining and of our forests. I discovered Central Oregon 2 summers ago while working and fell in love with the whole state. Hauled a bunch of agates home from the OCHOCO NF. Thanks for showing the roads you take to these places. Love the music also!
I'm with you, use what nature provided and save resources. I'd love to piece together that mill! Rare to find the whole mill together. The water wheel was probably repurposed at some point to generate electricity near by. It's said that those early water wheels were 70% efficient! We still can't seem to find a better way to produce power.
Jack, I would like to study that mill . I hope to get to see some of those mines when I come down this June . Thank you, sir, for keeping with the great videos. Just had to revisit this one again.
roller crusher similar to a millstone grinding wheat but for rocks. yep it's a wet process and then would feed to the slurry to the next process which could be a sluice, a shaker table for separation, or to a ball mill for additional grinding be for trying to concintrate the slury. .
The rolermill had replasable roller ring,thay were easy to fit, as thay were made 1" inside diamiter bigger than the boss size, as thay were fitted dry pine slats were added around the wheel to take up the 1" play,as the wheels ran in water the wood would expand to make a solid fit, also wood would take up any violent impact ,that would damage the bearings. the reason for using this type of mill is it is easy to power , as it works like a train steel on steel the only resistance was water/ mud mix....
great video,,i love this old water line and heavy gearing fly wheels ,thos men where tought ,they dint run away from hard work,,i look after an old cannery for 13 years and i visit old paper mills and i was amazing the work they put in in thos days,,most of them was in the inside passage of B C coast,but there all close now,,the best one is Ocean Fall and preserve,,for any more info send mee a request,,they cant only reach by boat,,,,Lou
All you need is a seawater wheel and pine or latch shakes cut as inserts to hold the rings in place 12 ft flat table mount that is a high tech piece from way back in the right hands it's like stealing
The ore was crushed and mixed with water to form a slurry which was then fed to this mill. Water was kept flowing into this mill, and there were screens around the outside. The wheels kept pulverizing the material until it was small enough to pass through the screens. It then went to the amalgamation process.
Very nice! Work thanks I really enjoyed it. FYI the stack of thin metal was probably a shim pack for dealing with vibration deflection or you could call it a spring pack.
That Chilean mill would have had screens around the base by the wheels. It would keep the material in for the wheels to crush, then exit through the screen. Way cool find!!! 73 from W1ECM Eric
Thanks Eric, I studied that thing for quite a while trying to figure out how they kept the material under the wheels, screens would make perfect sense! Thanks for filling in that blank!
That was interesting. That rolemill was interesting. I would like to see that in operation as well. A;; that steel out there going to rust should be at least harvested. Yeah, I'm mean like that. Unfortunately, the people you would be interested in talking to are probably in a nursing home somewhere around there.
The only other mill I have ever seen like that one used rock wheels. That was on the south end of the Magdalena Mountains in New Mexico and they had a Locomotive type boiler about 40' long I like you sure would like to know how those old miners got that kind of equipment that high on a mountain side with wagons and teams. I do know that boiler was hauled in there in one piece from the Rio Grande River area 25 or so miles away.
I sent some photos of the buildings still standing in 1986 and 1988 to the email you listed on your video. I did not see an opening to the mine back then. It looked liked they caved in the entrance so nobody even could tell where the mine was. We were able to drive up a gated road with no problem back then. I am sure you can't now. Great video and story about the ditch for water power.
At 13:35 looks like a 2 way radio to the right of the screen. Hard to say what year, I've seen 1940's coms receiver similar design. But then I seen 2 way radios of same design from the 1970s.
Our understanding is that it is called a "Chilean Mill" We found one in Southern Montana that could be the twin to yours. I would like the video but then the comment would flag. If you search "Chilean Mill" in our videos you can find it. At an operation called Garrison.
Hi Steve, I wondered the same thing. I think it might be a combination of it would be a huge pain to get out and also they may have had the best of intentions of coming back and starting up again.
There is a another way to generate power by using a generator and a electric motor hook them together turn the power on to the motor this will drive the generator that will produce more power that what the motor will use. Also wire the generator to run the motor it will keep the motor running after you turn the power switch off, it's pretty much free power.
500 FT of water column is 217 psi. It does not matter what the pipe diameter is. Necking down the diameter will only increase the velocity (like a hose nozzle) but the pressure is the same. It is a better way to regulate the delivered power to the water wheel . Hydrodynamics is complicated and confusing. Thats probably why dogs prefer to drink from a bowl or a toilet. Thanks for the video. Cool finds.
Those are my Grandpa's nuts on their! His Daddy worked the Bullfrog mine in Rhyolite Nevada and my guess is he could tell you exactly how that rotary mill is supposed to work. I think you ought to lay claim to that site and try to recover and restore it. It's an amazing piece of history. Thanks for another great video! Also see this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HQmObiikbJE.html
This is my mining claim. You didn't have permission to be on this claim. I'm sure when you weren't filming you were looking for gold. This is called claim jumping and its against the law. Your lucky i don't press charges against you. You even see and film my mining claim sign yet you still go on it knowing it is an active open claim and not closed. Who do you think you are. If you want to go on someones mining claim you need to get permission from them first. I'm going to put up trail cams on my claim and will turn you in for trespassing or anyone that is doing so.
Hi Travis. First thanks for watching the video, second I do no prospecting on any of the claims I visit, simply documenting history. Lastly it's federal land and anyone can access it. Film it, camp on it, or anything else short of digging for minerals. You have a nice claim up there! Best of luck with your gold venture.
Hi Ham. I figured that you did not do any prospecting but where i come from you just don't go on someones active claim with out permission. i know i wouldn't do that because of fear of some old crazy miner. I come from the sierra Nevada Allegany mining district and mine owners are just to crazy to go strolling on there gold mine like that. With that being said i'm not like that and just wanted to send a little test your way see make sure you weren't prospecting. Also for anyone watching this video they understand they cant just go on my claim and look for gold. Other than that I really like your video and have watched a few other videos and really like them. I haven't been to it still. I was going to go next weekend. Do you live in the area or close by?
