The SU Series - How the USSR made a better StuG 

Don't forget the T-54/55 based ones.

Ok good to know!

It would be great to see a video about the SU/ASU-57 vehicles as well.

There's also the SU-57, an American M3 halftrack mounting the M1 57mm cannon. Then the SU-57B and SU-76D prototypes designed by GAZ, the ASU-57 airborne assault gun, the crazy attempts to shove the D-25S 122mm cannon into the SU-100... OH, and the damn NAVAL CANNON shoved into the SU-100Y.

Don’t forget the SU-100Y and the Non-SU Soviet Self Propelled Bigboi Guns

Damn right if the soviets could be remembered for one thing there obsession with odd and unique designs as well as DSHK everywhere

If memory serves correctly the towed version of the gun (BS-3 i think) had issues with the recoil mechanism that took alot of ironing out. Not sure about the Spg version..

It was intended as the main armament for the IS-2 IIRC, but they simply can’t produce the AP round in the correct hardness(think it was shattering) so any plan with the gun needs to be put on hold. Soviet metallurgy simply isn’t ready to produce high velocity guns and their ammunition in big quantity, which is why they tend to go for larger calibre.

They tried that gun along with the 122mm on the IS prototypes, but during testing the 122mm gun performed better than the 100mm, so they chose the 122mm variant which became the IS2. The recognition of the 100mm gun came with the post war designs, as mentioned in the video with the T-54/55.

100mm was a naval weapon, great at AT, but with development/adaptation issues. The 122mm was deemed a better fit, since HE was more capable, AT was comparable, and development mostly complete. Loadout for JSII was typically 80% HE because there just weren't that many panzers to shoot.

Yea even my country still using it for cost-line defense

I'm very glad to hear! Plenty more on the way.

Can definitely agree as not a lot of channels or large tv channels even mention SU’s.

The ISU-152 is my favorite Soviet tank destroyer

​@@RedWrenchFilms where's the SU-5-1?

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​@@1283hc more like 🌚😟😐😬🤬😭

Just dont leak any documents

@@voolcy35 did you say leak more documeeeeents ???? Wait till the new nerf for modern vehicles

Im a World of Tanks player

The lack of dampening on the inside probably meant the crews ears would be blown out during a hit so yeah

There's a photo floating around with a panther (I think) hit by SU-152, half the damn thing is missing.

@@mandarin1257 There probably was an ammo explosion involved too.

The SU-152 "taran" sounds crazy. Wargaming pls give. There is a whole tech tree there with the SU-152 P and the SU-100P. We already have the (fictional) SU-130 PM as the Tier 8 premium, so now they just have to fill in the tech tree turreted soviet TDs. Taran at tier 10, SU-152 P at tier 9, SU-130 PM but non premium at tier 8 and SU-100 P at tier 7.

Also the ISU-122 and 122s

And maybe the SU-152... ;)

@@RedWrenchFilms indeed.. you kinda forgot about that one in the vid (well most likely not but still haha) Also don't forget the ISU-122 and 122s Or even the casemate KV designs could be nice to get some more attention.. that thing is so derpy xD

@@stijnjanssens571 = you mean the SU-100Y

@@badhippo aswell hehe

My lips are sealed!

@@RedWrenchFilms Please include the ISU-130! It was immediate post-war and didn't last long, so never gets mentioned (despite having the _longest_ barrel I've ever seen on any SU!).

@@dphalanx7465 know the ISU-152BM prototype?

@@cursedpikachu7644 Never heard of that one, brother. Look forward to whatever RWF does in the future.

I think it would be a good idea to put a StuG III about 200m away facing it. That would put the whole situation in full context for Slovakians.

You'll see it soon enough ;) Thanks very much!

@@RedWrenchFilms are you going to merge su kv based and isu together? and maybe a point about the kurganets?

And the SU-122. And the ISU versions of both.

Now if only they had a decent ammount of armor to actually make them good in head on engagements against similar power enemies.

@@robertharris6092 They are tank destroyers, not heavy tanks, remember the survivability onion, Tank destroyers are all about the "don't be seen"

​@@alyx3154yeah he the type of person to say "If only scout planes had better armor and gun" like man it's use for scouting not fight tiger tanks

@@zherean42069 Absolutely, some people don't seem to know about te fine balance that is making any sort of military equipment.

I never realized that the SU-76 was built on a T70 chassis! I tootled around on a T70 tank I WoT.

Thanks so much!

I learned of it from a bookcase game called Arab-Israeli wars by Avalon Hill...out of print.

Thanks for the comment John! I'm glad you enjoyed.

they were not lucky , they had better tanks

funni backwards tank

See the pinned comment :)

Ah thank you for the comment! I’m glad you enjoyed :)

Thank you! Very kind.

Thanks man!

They are the cool people.

Thanks! I appreciate it.

Some sources say it did and some say it only appeared afterwards! What I think happened is that it wasn't there at the beginning of the battle but arrived towards the end of the fighting, sometime in late July/early August, and were present for the Soviet counteroffensives.

You know I can edit the wiki right?

@@atomica0914 YES! :)

Slick conmen?

@@RedWrenchFilms Ads, paid advertisements. Nothing to do with your content.

You'll have to wait for that one ;)

Aw thank you so much! And yes - Belfast born and raised. :)

Ah I’m glad you like them! To be honest I think I used 15-20 pieces of footage for this video, a lot of which were from Panzer Insight/Panzer Picture, who has done an excellent job of collating lots of little snippets of footage and uploading them to their own channel.

The worst problem of a early war soviet arsenal is the lack of armor piercing shells. There are early war reports from several fronts that stated percentage of different shells actually avaliable from the amount stated in a doctrine. For the armor piercing shells, both for tanks and anti tank guns, this number didn't rise more than 10%. That's the main reason why Germans managed to repair so many damaged tanks during 1941-42 and put them into the action again

Ah this really means a lot. I try to make videos that I would enjoy, and as much as I do find armour/gun/penetration values interesting, I think the historical context and the main decisions made by the designers are much more fun. Feedback like this is so helpful so please don’t feel like you’re overanalysing haha

@@RedWrenchFilms that’s a nice mindset to have when making videos. Seems effective and adds a touch of passion to the topic. I also like to get into armor and penetration values from time to time. The problem is often just dumping a lot of numbers. Here you simply sticked to the frontal armor thickness and its angle and that’s great. Not too many numbers to understand, and if you are watching a video on the SU series, you probably understand the concept of angled armor beforehand. Many other channels would have probably also gone waaaay too deep into the invasion of the USSR as historical context. This moves the target audience from historically interested people, to the general public. Anyone can watch it, without any prior knowledge. And I do not mean this as any sort of “gate keeping”. Anyone should be able to watch these videos. But people who already know what “Operation Barbarossa” is, don’t really want it to be explained every single time they dive into a new topic of the eastern front. Plus there’s already hundreds of other videos and documentaries going into depths with these things, that less historically interested people could be inspired to go watch afterwards. My main point with this is that leaving out specifics on the historical context isn’t as harmful as it might seem. And going into the specifics too much just removes any focus from the video. I feel like here it’s done just right. Bit of context, and then onto the main topic. Keeps the people whom are likely to watch this (people with prior knowledge to WW2 and tanks) entertained, and the people less likely to watch this (people with little historical knowledge) are maybe left with a few questions to go on an adventure with. Keep it going man

@@zaiz6018 Thanks so much - you've pretty much nailed what I'm going for and it's great that it's clearly came across in the way I make my videos :)

No comment. ;)

Yeah mostly RU-vid! Check out Panzer Insight/Panzer Pictures, they usually have some great footage

You're absolutely correct Paul, I should've added the caveat that there were no MAJOR changes. When making these videos I try and highlight the features or differences that allow one to identify one or the other at a glance, and with the SU-122 and SU-85 the easiest way to do that is by the gun. Likewise there are a lot more subtle differences between the SU-85 and SU-100 that I didn't get into, I just highlighted the main changes that allow someone to identify an SU-85 from an SU-85M or an SU-100. Naturally I'd include everything if I could but I try to keep these sort of videos as concise as possible!

Pinned comment ^

Because German used them to spearhead the assault in Kursk alongside normal Tigers. Nobody would use SU-76,85 and 100 in that role. That is for SU/ISU-152

Soon! (tm)

@@RedWrenchFilms thanks king