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Edit: People just take one look at the thumbnail/title and actually think I'm talking about Steven Universe's art style, the "Cal arts style", "sjw" art and smearframes. Christ can you just watch the video? I'm talking about an animation practice for fucks sake.
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@michaelceraweed
@michaelceraweed 5 лет назад
i find it funny how steven and connie are sometimes normal height but then they're also literal gremlins sometimes lmao
@InvaderGIR98
@InvaderGIR98 5 лет назад
Remember when Connie was lanky and twice as tall as Steven lmao
@conniemariee1978
@conniemariee1978 5 лет назад
@@InvaderGIR98 oh jesus I forgot about that ! Connie was waayyy taller than steven .
@ConsarnitTokkori
@ConsarnitTokkori 5 лет назад
remember when peridot was tall
@judasrose9487
@judasrose9487 5 лет назад
In the one side by side of connie she went from somewhat normal tween/teenager proportions to bobblehead, and in the side by side with steven and connie in the doorway they went from looking like teenagers to 5 year olds in terms of height and proportions
@ConsarnitTokkori
@ConsarnitTokkori 5 лет назад
you say that as if only connie suffered it [cries in almost every plain ol' gem]
@FairyHeartGaming
@FairyHeartGaming 5 лет назад
I guess you can call it The “Uneven Steven”
@XaiEia
@XaiEia 5 лет назад
This Comment needs more likes
@FairyHeartGaming
@FairyHeartGaming 5 лет назад
The Romanian Atheist that’s even better
@gplgs4640
@gplgs4640 5 лет назад
Get out I said get out
@butter4104
@butter4104 5 лет назад
*THIS ISN'T stEVEN A GOOD JOKE!!!!!...* Edit:.. I suck at jokes XDD
@lolipopglitch8633
@lolipopglitch8633 5 лет назад
@@gplgs4640 here let me help you **opens the door**
@Vinman-fq7ff
@Vinman-fq7ff 5 лет назад
Film theory: what is Steven’s height? *oh wait*
@bethdoesart
@bethdoesart 5 лет назад
Lmao
@nyanyanyanyan33
@nyanyanyanyan33 5 лет назад
Am I the only one who doesn't even watch SU? XD
@arandomcloud3499
@arandomcloud3499 5 лет назад
The world will never know
@LegoManiac_101
@LegoManiac_101 4 года назад
KellyMaroon yes, and you are a lucky bastard for doing so.
@sdxstudio437
@sdxstudio437 4 года назад
He have no neck. Only in Movie
@RanPizza
@RanPizza 5 лет назад
Garnet: 8ft tall Also garnet:6ft in the next scene
@Quinhala11
@Quinhala11 5 лет назад
Yellow diamond: Puts a pearl on her hand Also Yellow Diamond: Be as tall as Pink Edit: Saw the episode, i was wrong lol
@Quinhala11
@Quinhala11 5 лет назад
In the new trailer
@Quinhala11
@Quinhala11 5 лет назад
The scene where she's with Steven in a bath or something
@notyou3949
@notyou3949 5 лет назад
@@Quinhala11 Aren't you seeing Yellow Diamond sitting down an at an angle with Steven though? Wouldn't that change how you view and perceive someone's height in comparison to something/someone else?
@pathetic2399
@pathetic2399 5 лет назад
She still wouldn't be that small.
@CynicSnacks
@CynicSnacks 5 лет назад
The animators of Ren & Stimpy refused to draw the same face twice, and it leant an unnerving and very unique look to the show which was perfect for its tone and themes.
@SorrySock8435
@SorrySock8435 5 лет назад
Why i love it. Hate the creator but respect that at the same time.
@damianszymanski5301
@damianszymanski5301 5 лет назад
@@SorrySock8435 whats so bad about the creator?
@dannykeuerleber7419
@dannykeuerleber7419 5 лет назад
@@damianszymanski5301 buzzfeed published an article saying he creep-ed on teenagers had a 15 year old gf at the time and a load of hearsay anonymous sources and a quote from a book but its buzzfeed and every other news site is citing them and nobody else so probably a nothing-burger
@eggplantwarden4338
@eggplantwarden4338 5 лет назад
@@damianszymanski5301 He was very cruel to his animation team and had very high standards for the episodes and would even scrap them if they didn't meet his high expectations.
@PIB2000
@PIB2000 5 лет назад
That show was a big step for animation at the time, especially television animation. The lack of model sheets was used to make the animation more fluid and Bob Clampett-esque. As terrible as John is, he can make some damn fluid animation.
@percivaleanthony1818
@percivaleanthony1818 5 лет назад
going off model wouldnt be that big of a problem if they just followed rules - like "this character must never be shorter than x character" or "x character should always have this shape head" etc etc still would be annoying, but at least itd have better consistency
@BlueTheCartoonAddict
@BlueTheCartoonAddict 3 года назад
Very true
@BlueTheCartoonAddict
@BlueTheCartoonAddict 3 года назад
Very true
@Cynicalhamptur
@Cynicalhamptur Год назад
Yes, this what they should have done imo. It's so distracting when I see Connie or Steven look like actual midgets compared to other characters who looks like giants compared to them. Then the next scene happens and now Steven and Connie look like normal humans.
@mustardyboi4187
@mustardyboi4187 5 лет назад
You guys remember Chowder? It’s hilariously off model every now and then because it’s meant too. Sometimes they make Endive bigger than she needs to be to emphasize how huge she is, same goes for most of the characters when they emphasize one aspect of the character.
@drew_porter806
@drew_porter806 5 лет назад
Too bad this show sucks at that
@Hynet1
@Hynet1 5 лет назад
Same with Ira Gamagori from Kill la Kill, it's hillarious sometimes how they blow his size out of proportion to emphasize that he's a giant of a character.
@user-nb8tk6hh6x
@user-nb8tk6hh6x 5 лет назад
That was done on purpose though.
@brightoff
@brightoff 5 лет назад
But there's a difference between the two. Where with Chowder it's a choice and adds to the overall feel of a scene (not to mention compliments the style of the cartoon writing wise), with SU it's just genuine laziness and lack of care for a show.
@MaxsonAtTheFort
@MaxsonAtTheFort 5 лет назад
Mung: "Woman! You are a lump of coal!"
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270 5 лет назад
As a person who LOVES Steven Universe, I’ve been bothered by the inconsistencies for a while. At the moment, they seem to have skipped that, but as the show began you could clearly see the differences. I am still bothered that Peridot and Lapis keeps shrinking... Like, what the hell?
@kodey1m
@kodey1m 5 лет назад
And that's great. Be critical of what you love. Voice it. Only through this can the media you love be improved.
@dicedmeat7857
@dicedmeat7857 5 лет назад
Jojo Wolf I think the thing that annoyed me most was the whole lapis hair situation, it annoyed me so much to be honest. Her hair was so large and it was the first time I began to notice they’re being inconsistent :/
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270
@bisexualsmoothtalker1270 5 лет назад
Blake the Dweeb Yeah, it’s really annoying. I mean, I like that she lets the storyboard artists draw them in their style, but keep the dang consistencies
@Solanin0803
@Solanin0803 5 лет назад
Honestly, there is *so* much time in between episode being released, I didn't even notice the inconcistencies at first
@Dell-xg8gj
@Dell-xg8gj 5 лет назад
I hate it how every shot is just shot reverse-shot like inconsistency in sizes are for the most part, at least for me, something I don't immediately notice but once you notice the shot reverse shot expecelly in songs like 'it's over isn't it' where the set up for good shots is there to evoke emotion and the only emotion you get is from the voices it's painful
@buzzbeebeebuzz6632
@buzzbeebeebuzz6632 5 лет назад
When I saw that insane animation from Battle of Heart and Mind I thought 'Holy shit they actually tried new angles AND ANIMATION.' Till I realized James Baxter did it. Not mad about that, James is a god.
@spookysenpai7642
@spookysenpai7642 4 года назад
He was like, "Let me do it, I got this. Bamm! Here's your 0:30 seconds of awesomeness."
@jeremyhearne
@jeremyhearne 4 года назад
Jaaaames baxter!
@BethanyHarbaugh
@BethanyHarbaugh 5 лет назад
I love Steven Universe, but NOTHING is above criticism. I have the same complaints about the consistency of the character models. I would like my characters to STAY the same size throughout. Heck, it's a meme about the 'amazing shrinking Peridot', who seems to get smaller and smaller each episode.
@Vtropicalmoon
@Vtropicalmoon 5 лет назад
Its not really a problem to me i just find it funny, but I agree that she should work on it
@montylovessteak
@montylovessteak 5 лет назад
@gorkamorka zorgamorga Peridot Is Pretty Great.
@geometrykilling
@geometrykilling 5 лет назад
It happened the same with Connie, in the first episodes, she was very, *VERY* taller than Steven, but by some reason, she became to get smaller and smaller at the point to look like a 5 years old girl (I know this may happened because Steven was growning up, but damn, the small height of Connie was very exaggerated) And yes, I think the same with Peridot, she was very tall, but when she was stripped of her armor, she was in a decent height, but whit every episode she was getting smaller and smaller. Honestly, I think that Rebecca Sugar has a lot of mistakes in the animation, such as bad proportionality.
@jesterjacks3933
@jesterjacks3933 5 лет назад
Peridot is just a fucking gremlin at this point
@kristianperez4108
@kristianperez4108 4 года назад
How do you even criticize art? Do you just say that the most popular opinion is the correct one? Do you compare it to whatever came first or some other arbitrary standard?
@spqcestarlight1673
@spqcestarlight1673 5 лет назад
As an SU fan, I agree with you. Another thing to add; they toy around with characters badly. As an example; yellow diamond. This is because rebecca and one of her other workers changed how she acted, From afar, this show looks amazing. But if you look closer.. boy oh boy.
@Novadolls
@Novadolls 5 лет назад
As an actual fan of SU, I am SO with you on this!
@siberiasian
@siberiasian 5 лет назад
Me too... It's annoying how they ignore their own models
@serenasongbird
@serenasongbird 5 лет назад
Me too!
@serenasongbird
@serenasongbird 5 лет назад
gorkamorka zorgamorga yep we exist, I’m one of them lol
@arandomcloud3499
@arandomcloud3499 5 лет назад
tali_ love same
@littlestars4683
@littlestars4683 5 лет назад
I agree as well
@murmirr
@murmirr 5 лет назад
SPOILERS. in Change Your Mind (the most recent episode of SU), i couldn't stop watching the scene where the two stevens fuse to create normal steven, because they brought in a former animator from the Disney renaissance era (James Baxter) to animate it. It was just so fluid and amazingly done, i spent almost 20 minuets watching it over and over and just admiring it. This was the type of animation the show really needed. (Damn almost 100 likes tf)
@ej4j4i38wGwgeb8
@ej4j4i38wGwgeb8 5 лет назад
Same! It looked so fluid and pretty and aaagh! I love it! I nearly choked when i saw such a pretty scene in such a mediocre show!!
@WingItMan217
@WingItMan217 5 лет назад
⚠️ m a c k . ⚠️ James Baxter, man. James Baxter
@alcotectorl.s.d.1698
@alcotectorl.s.d.1698 5 лет назад
Yeah, but it’s the ONLY ONE good-drawn scene on THE WHOLE cartoon. Don’t you think it’s just not enough and doesn’t excuse all the previous shit?
@gracedotpng8340
@gracedotpng8340 5 лет назад
I understand that you like that scene, but it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE to create those kinds of cuts consistently without having even longer delays in the scheduling of the show. That 20 second scene took James Baxter, I'd guess, 1-2 months to make.
@murmirr
@murmirr 5 лет назад
Alcotector L.S.D. who are you talking about because i know i didn't say that??
@deddrz2549
@deddrz2549 5 лет назад
I miss the days when "artistic choices" were actually deliberately made to convey a certain look or feeling in a specific shot, rather than just being made to make production quick and easy while not paying attention to when something should and shouldn't be consistent with the character sheets.
@th3azscorpio
@th3azscorpio 4 года назад
Perfect case and point is Ren and Stimpy; which went purposely off model, for stylistic purpose; which resulted more fluid animation, extremely dynamic expressions.
@skyxclouds3765
@skyxclouds3765 3 года назад
@the hevy mmm, no, it is'nt
@Skokapus
@Skokapus 2 года назад
More shows with ACTUAL stylistic choices are: Dr. Katz Professional Therapist and Home Movies. Which are meant to look crude and stick to that throughout the entire show’s run
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan 5 лет назад
consistency is everything. They teach you this in art school junior year.
@majamystic256
@majamystic256 5 лет назад
im still trying to figure out how to be consistent in art
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan 5 лет назад
Mystic System while I was a illustration major and needed to develop a character. My professor helped by telling me, you need to just keep drawing the character after you have a clear idea. Just draw them over and over, in every angle imaginable. Eventually you will be consistent and can work on the turn around sketches.
@Ubistai
@Ubistai 5 лет назад
I feel even when you're making your style consistency is everything if you had a good high school art teacher they will teach you that you should know this when you're being an artist consistency is life for an artist mostly if you're making a character or a show
@powerpointropolis8014
@powerpointropolis8014 5 лет назад
Ren and Stimpy is the only show I can think of that uses the constant off model drawings to it’s advantage, but probably because it’s done intentionally.
@exchangediary968
@exchangediary968 5 лет назад
too bad the creator is a creep and has a hate boner for the Call/arts art style (not of today but he hates the cal arts art style of the 90's which was Disney inspired) and had this furious hate for anime/manga
@powerpointropolis8014
@powerpointropolis8014 5 лет назад
Ava Lin I don’t like the creator either, and I hope his involvement doesn’t tarnish the reputation of an otherwise awesome show for people
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 5 лет назад
Frankly, the Simpsons give the biggest burn to the creator in one of their episodes when he called it along the likes of it being crude or something of the sorts.
@garfieif8187
@garfieif8187 5 лет назад
Sonichu TAS has a particularly beautiful use of off model animation that really helps create a shifting, no, *flowing* appearance, as if it's the arctic ocean's rippling surface shimmering the light of the aurora borealis. Never has such unquantifiable abstractism come together so harmoniously to form a visual symphony of colors and shapes that marry themselves to the unmistakably distinct stylistic tone of the original graphic novel series.
@DraphEnjoyer
@DraphEnjoyer 5 лет назад
Absolutely no point in bringing up John K. whatsoever. Everyone knew John K was a degenerate since the late 80s. Get off your soapbox
@tawnyfleur9032
@tawnyfleur9032 5 лет назад
In a span of 15 seconds Amethyst hair in front eyes Then amethyst hair out of face Then amythest hair on face again but in a different way *WTF*
@OzCroc
@OzCroc 4 года назад
Um... You know that how hair works, right? You can move it out of your face and have it flop over your face.
@OzCroc
@OzCroc 4 года назад
@@Ella_Roland Um, if the bangs are slightly changed, Im pretty sure I could still recognize her.
@DlCKWALLACE
@DlCKWALLACE 4 года назад
@@Ella_Roland but your example is not a big change lol.
@fauteuil1046
@fauteuil1046 4 года назад
... It's actually how hair works irl? Hair is fluid, flexible, it doesn't stay the same all the time
@SwizzleDrizzl
@SwizzleDrizzl 4 года назад
@@fauteuil1046 Thats not how character design works though lol, especially in shows like SU
@MagmaPaint
@MagmaPaint 5 лет назад
As much as I like Steven Universe, I'll admit you're not wrong. The constant off-model animation really bugs me at times.
@terrain7879
@terrain7879 5 лет назад
She's not talking about SU just look in the description
@pulsatingeyes3120
@pulsatingeyes3120 5 лет назад
Yeah... The latest episodes from like. 3 months ago? Have been terrible, The episodes didn't even look good and were terribly rushed.
@HuslenErdene-si2rt
@HuslenErdene-si2rt 5 лет назад
MERICA LIKES THICC OIL how can you said that when all she is talking about is SU?
@HuslenErdene-si2rt
@HuslenErdene-si2rt 5 лет назад
SonicDDRFreak Get out just get out From the Steven Universe FAMILY BITCH
@HuslenErdene-si2rt
@HuslenErdene-si2rt 5 лет назад
SonicDDRFreak Okay some people claims that they are SU fan but they dont like the characters changing? Wut? Rebecca Sugar allready said that thay have no heights and can be clearly different sometimes. But you low fans don’t even care and know about Steven Universe bet you guys don’t know about the diamond day about Rebecca Sugar and you says you are a fan of SU? If you guys are going to be fan of SU like this then just DONT. Get out of the SU family and no one needs you guys in the SU family!
@ragdollbunniii6181
@ragdollbunniii6181 5 лет назад
I wanted to make a show where the art style is very inconsistent. But that’s mostly because the machine for making the show is broken and the main characters have to fix it. So each and every episode has a different style, from a cartoony one to the anime one
@antob4524
@antob4524 5 лет назад
Love that! And may the end of the show are the characters fixing the machine again, but they don't like their style and fimd it boring so they break it again and go back to their life.. You should really try doing a show about it, It's original as hell
@ragdollbunniii6181
@ragdollbunniii6181 5 лет назад
Loudot yea but i’m a bit too young to make one ;v;
@XaiEia
@XaiEia 5 лет назад
@@ragdollbunniii6181 That sounds amazing! You should totally work on that once you're older. And every animator for the show could also have an episode where it's animated in their art style, that'd be so cool!
@pierrotlunaire08
@pierrotlunaire08 5 лет назад
That's a brilliant concept! I'd love to see that happen. Also, age doesn't really matter most of the time, I'm making a cartoon and I'm under 15 at the time of this comment, so perhaps give it a go? The best thing to do is just to draw up some concept art and get those wheels turning? I'd love to help if you want. I could do some voice acting, perhaps?
@ragdollbunniii6181
@ragdollbunniii6181 5 лет назад
ColorfulCartoonz true, maybe i can make an MAP about it in the future (cuz i’m still trying to learn how to animate:> )
@Nicholaskgaming
@Nicholaskgaming 5 лет назад
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Yoshi still committed Tax Fraud.
@mightypurplelicious1625
@mightypurplelicious1625 4 года назад
Oh shit thanks for reminding me 🙏
@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario
@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario 4 года назад
No he didn’t
@stevenjoy530
@stevenjoy530 4 года назад
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario We all know he did. Even the FBI right now
@AColonDashSix
@AColonDashSix 3 года назад
Yoshi has an income? I thought he was more of like a slave. I mean, he was hatched with a saddle fully formed on his back.
@spookykinzievods4127
@spookykinzievods4127 5 лет назад
I feel like Steven Universe teaches a lot of odd, not very good techniques for animation, including disregarding being on-model. People respect this show, and emulate it, and try to copy it, and it teaches them real bad practices.
@berserker3414
@berserker3414 5 лет назад
Lmfao, I like this thing but I will never try to emulate it. I know people that does, but SU didn't bring me the joy of animation, it was the old Disney cartoons like from 40's. I really hate the ''but planned and organized animation is boring and lack of spirit'' argument that some SU fan I know still uses. Even if I despise Disney's hunger for power, I admire its workers
@phantomliger89
@phantomliger89 4 года назад
@@berserker3414 I mean those were basically traced from real live models acting them out. Not sure you can compare.
@ajg92
@ajg92 Месяц назад
​@@berserker3414my thoughts were that the looks were part of the message. Think about what Steven Universe's message is: If all porkchops were perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs. Steven Universe is a hot dog.
@manzanito3652
@manzanito3652 5 лет назад
She has artistic freedom, but we also have the freedom to criticise her style and choices.
@bear.6804
@bear.6804 5 лет назад
Have you seen the steven fusing animation? It was more consistent and had more frames than the entire show
@PeachReaver
@PeachReaver 5 лет назад
That was animated by James Baxter, ofcourse it was consistent, it was literally animated frame by frame by one guy.
@Jdudec367
@Jdudec367 4 года назад
not the whole show as he's helped multiple times honestly
@Lio_Convoy
@Lio_Convoy 5 лет назад
There's also the fact that the SU animation budget is allegedly IN THE MILLIONS. There's no excuse here.
@axel8lover8
@axel8lover8 5 лет назад
Well on average the amount of money that goes into making a 2D cartoon is around 90,000 per minute it would be safe to assume that almost 1 mil. Is put into the budget.
@hunicrisp4208
@hunicrisp4208 5 лет назад
Checkered_Fancy wat about the pilots that are good doe
@VaqueroCoyote
@VaqueroCoyote 5 лет назад
I smell money laundering/an embezzlement scheme. I don't think that's sugar Rebecca snorts.
@chid236
@chid236 5 лет назад
You can't buy time with money.
@cameoshadowness7757
@cameoshadowness7757 5 лет назад
@@axel8lover8 that is still no excuse. Shows with less buget still end up looking better. On top of that they use one of the most frequestly used koreon studio and Rebecca doesn't bother putting in decent story boards.
@de5677gm
@de5677gm 5 лет назад
Sugar: *ARTISTIC FREEDOM* Also Sugar: *makes everyone a midget*
@FuatKarakahya
@FuatKarakahya 5 лет назад
I've been gnomed
@HeavyMetalBeliever
@HeavyMetalBeliever 5 лет назад
Rebecca Sugar doesn't like tall people. Or something.
@AarenYASS
@AarenYASS 5 лет назад
But its not sugar drawing them that way, theyre actually kinda tall in the actual character sheets. -
@wetfart9813
@wetfart9813 5 лет назад
@@HeavyMetalBeliever boi
@HeavyMetalBeliever
@HeavyMetalBeliever 5 лет назад
@@wetfart9813 That's my theory, anyway. Steven Universe is short, Greg is short, Ruby is short, Sapphire is short, Amethyst is short, Peridot is short and a bunch of other characters are short. It's harder to find tall characters in Steven Universe.
@thewickerman5121
@thewickerman5121 5 лет назад
Wow, immediately your more respectful about SU than Lily orchard
@louminouz
@louminouz 5 лет назад
Lily Orchard is really passionate about shitting on the show for some reason. Like, I agree with them on some of their points but dAnG the hate boner.
@stalebread9825
@stalebread9825 4 года назад
The Wickerman she does a good job and shouldn’t sugar coat it just to not sound too offensive
@Emisop
@Emisop 4 года назад
“She does a good job” and yet there are more than one videos pointing out all the things she did wrong in her video. Like how she lied about things, blamed Rebecca for everything even when Rebecca had nothing to do with it, ext.
@pastelgalaxystudio7103
@pastelgalaxystudio7103 4 года назад
@@Emisop but she didn't lie, name something she lied about
@pastelgalaxystudio7103
@pastelgalaxystudio7103 4 года назад
@@Emisop but she didn't lie, name something she lied about
@zillauniverse7208
@zillauniverse7208 5 лет назад
Man SU is expensive but somehow the Animation style looks cheap
@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764
@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764 5 лет назад
The backgrounds are nice, but otherwise it's just jarring.
@zillauniverse7208
@zillauniverse7208 5 лет назад
@@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764 I love Steven universe but man this is unbelievable
@AlexB-lr2qp
@AlexB-lr2qp 5 лет назад
It could be cheaper.
@sunnivaleflair3576
@sunnivaleflair3576 5 лет назад
I know....
@thejedisonic67
@thejedisonic67 5 лет назад
They got the money, but pther than the background artists they don't have the talent.
@JustinY.
@JustinY. 5 лет назад
Ravioli ravioli don't lewd the dragon loli
@amxgaming1116
@amxgaming1116 5 лет назад
Your here
@amxgaming1116
@amxgaming1116 5 лет назад
And I made first comment
@cosmicslight8177
@cosmicslight8177 5 лет назад
Justin Y. Early justin
@ennu3925
@ennu3925 5 лет назад
Oh hey you're back
@antoinel.9310
@antoinel.9310 5 лет назад
Sugar sugar, don't kill Gaspar
@greywarden1261
@greywarden1261 5 лет назад
Honestly, if the characters had at least some consistencies like height or specific shapes then it wouldn't be 10x as bad.
@sketchyemi
@sketchyemi 5 лет назад
buy my emojis, i have a litter of puppies to feed
@MissZiZi
@MissZiZi 5 лет назад
Leave
@shlepe3623
@shlepe3623 5 лет назад
sketchyemi only if you upload
@sketchyemi
@sketchyemi 5 лет назад
Miss-Zi-Zi please.... my husband and i.... our children.... we are so hungry....
@sketchyemi
@sketchyemi 5 лет назад
wlangs WHAT IS AN UPLOAD. I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF SUCH A THING. BEGONE.
@crystalkirigiri8678
@crystalkirigiri8678 5 лет назад
h o w m u c h
@Hypnos-lw3fn
@Hypnos-lw3fn 5 лет назад
considering Stephen Hillenberg was able to keep SpongeBob consistently on model in "Help Wanted" without model sheets... Rebecca doesn't have an excuse, it's just a poor cover up for laziness, and honestly an insult to animators who put effort into their cartoons.
@bossrosslp
@bossrosslp 5 лет назад
Invader Bound well to be absolutely fair, spongebob is a much easier shape and form to manage, being a square with 4 twigs jutting out of his body :3
@kaiviru
@kaiviru 5 лет назад
@@bossrosslp yeah, i guess, but what's so hard about drawing Steven or Connie or one of the three main gems?
@sicksquid
@sicksquid 5 лет назад
She doesn't animate it. She has a team.
@sicksquid
@sicksquid 5 лет назад
Please stop assuming shit about Rebecca if you haven't even seen the show or if you don't even know her. Also of freaking course there won't be character consistency. You REALLY think they gonna be a professional at character consistency on their FIRST cartoon? Do you have any idea how hard it is to keep consistency?? It's not magic.
@hexxez3381
@hexxez3381 5 лет назад
@@sicksquid So just because it's "hard", she's allowed to be lazy? Uh, no. It doesn't matter if it's hard. Making a cartoon is hard. Yet she decided to make one anyways and now you expect people to just be fine watching a shitfest just because it's "hard"? Grow up. If you can't even keep character heights consistent then you shouldn't even try to make a cartoon unless you want it to look like trash. Plus, keeping the characters consistent isn't even that fucking hard if she would just use a goddamn model sheet. There's no "artistic freedom" in making your show more shitty.
@Dragonstorm-xy8hs
@Dragonstorm-xy8hs 5 лет назад
I’m not mad, just disappointed. Best way to describe this.
@paalaaa
@paalaaa 4 года назад
Dissapointed about this video? Why?
@ztrike4402
@ztrike4402 4 года назад
@@paalaaa About the inconsistency
@joeytheslimeboi8900
@joeytheslimeboi8900 5 лет назад
If I were to make a show, I would have intentional errors ie. colour changes, size changes, face swaps. However they would only last one or two frames and would happen once or twice per episode. It would mainly be a homage to all the errors in transformers G1 and how terrible/funny they are
@luisz0339
@luisz0339 5 лет назад
Well, if it is a comedy section of the episode, it could work. But if it a serious section then maybe it would look just silly and very outplace.
@joeytheslimeboi8900
@joeytheslimeboi8900 5 лет назад
LuisZ 033 usually in comidic or non serious situations and only lasting for 0.01-0.02 of a second
@venomsnakesupremacy
@venomsnakesupremacy 5 лет назад
*_Nice pfp, where'd you get it from?_*
@Xxsorafan
@Xxsorafan 5 лет назад
Joey The decepticon I thought the inconsistency is because they get people in Korea to animate so it leaves less time to correct mistakes
@randtastik
@randtastik 5 лет назад
I would just do that if it was mostly a comedy show, or for moments that don't deserve to be taken seriously.
@chasformer3091
@chasformer3091 5 лет назад
Seeing as how Steven Universe wants to take itself seriously, there's no excuse for these errors.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 5 лет назад
And I thought we were long passed having those kinds of errors in 80's and early 90's cartoons.
@dangerwarg9682
@dangerwarg9682 5 лет назад
@@rayvenkman2087 I've seen Gundam with better consistency that this.
@chickenstripz1961
@chickenstripz1961 5 лет назад
@@rayvenkman2087 it's not an error if it was intentional. That's nothing but your opinion.
@dangerwarg9682
@dangerwarg9682 5 лет назад
@@chickenstripz1961 But here's a problem with that. It's obvious that they're being lazy. Intentionally lazy or not, that is not good.
@justinemartin1255
@justinemartin1255 5 лет назад
@@dangerwarg9682 Jesus Christ, so many people calling the animators lazy, did you even see how animators works ?... there is nothing lazy about any type of animation, I mean, the framerate is decent and even thought I don't like the inconsistency either I can admit that they tried something and it didn't work out, it was just unaesthetic. But lazy ? nuh-uh.
@frenchy9870
@frenchy9870 4 года назад
I like how Peridot has slowly gotten shorter throughout the show.
@kngxn7437
@kngxn7437 4 года назад
By the end of the show she's gonna become an atom lol
@tiny_98
@tiny_98 4 года назад
Gremlin space dorito
@WhatTheCheick
@WhatTheCheick 5 лет назад
A very well put together and researched video with consistent points to back it up. The frequent off model inconsistencies of characters mixed with the usually lacklustre shots/framing really drags the show down. I was hoping it would get better because l started noticing inconsistencies within the same episode I'd be watching. I still really enjoy but a lot of people have stopped watching or decided against it because of this. Also wow a critique video on SU that doesn't insult the show or it's fans, haven't seen that since Robobuddies.
@kodey1m
@kodey1m 5 лет назад
Indeed. Zi-Zi's pretty skilled with her critiques. I subscribed after watching her critique of Vivziepop's art style. Since I jumped onto the Hazbin Hotel hype train after Daria Cohen joined in as an animator. Can I be honest I think RU-vid and the internet in general has overtaken TV as the place to find interesting and artistic cartoons. There are exceptions but TV quite frankly is just dying.
@kalebsok2947
@kalebsok2947 5 лет назад
Theres actual passion in one
@WhatTheCheick
@WhatTheCheick 5 лет назад
Keoh 8 not really, it’s a critique, listing the flaws that their methods have caused and acknowledging the quality of the work as a result
@WhatTheCheick
@WhatTheCheick 5 лет назад
Keoh 8 That really depends on how the critique is delivered, and how you perceive criticism Some people tend to mix in insults with their critiques, and others are more hyperbolic for the sake of entertainment But generally most people don’t take criticism very well because they don’t like to think they’re doing anything wrong
@kodey1m
@kodey1m 5 лет назад
@Keoh 8 Simple difference is an insult isn't intended to help people its intended to degrade people. Screaming "Your art is Sh**" for example doesn't help anyone and is just there to degrade. Detailing why there are problems however is helpful and is not intended to degrade but rather help the creators and any other potential creators watching improve. So the intentions are different. Criticism can also still be delivered by someone that hates the subject of the criticism and still be criticism because it's still going through the aspects that are hindering it that can still help it improve. You may find very few of the things actually screamed to be insults on the internet by commenters are actually insults.
@IzzySarru
@IzzySarru 5 лет назад
Man, the attitudes of these "professional" artists reminds me of the plethora of kids on an art website I used to frequent who would get super defensive if you gave them the slightest criticism. Which is dumb because the website was literally built around a rating system, but NOPE anything less than 5/5 meant you were "hate rating".
@victinitron2000
@victinitron2000 5 лет назад
What website?
@IzzySarru
@IzzySarru 5 лет назад
ratemydrawingsdotcom Just replace the dot with a period.
@justinemartin1255
@justinemartin1255 5 лет назад
They are professionals. They tried something that didn't worked out. But calling them unprofessional isn't the best term to use.
@thatonedood85
@thatonedood85 5 лет назад
If someone is criticizing an artist that's doing something on purpose, it's not criticism.
@sofiarodriguez6768
@sofiarodriguez6768 5 лет назад
Justine Martin someone being unprofessional being called unprofessional is the wrong term to use? It’s not like they tried really hard and went a direction people didn’t care for- which is how you’re making it seem. It’s a literal laziness that has lead to Steven being simultaneously 2 feet y’all and 5 feet tall and garnet being 8 feet and 6 feet and etc. I mean cmon. You’re telling me that one episode Steven is taller than the counter on his own and the next he’s having to use a stool isn’t just laziness and a lack of trying? They just draw them however because who cares. That’s unprofessional. It’s not like that’s even budget constraint or style choice.
@soaviessunglasses8303
@soaviessunglasses8303 5 лет назад
One of the people that worked on Steven universe made their own show and I can say the consistency is definitely better
@blankuser987
@blankuser987 5 лет назад
Pancakes Syrup what's it called?
@soaviessunglasses8303
@soaviessunglasses8303 5 лет назад
*internal screaming* I kinda forgot
@ACTD_Official
@ACTD_Official 5 лет назад
@@soaviessunglasses8303 Craig at the creek
@soaviessunglasses8303
@soaviessunglasses8303 5 лет назад
PBSDoink thank u for telling!!!!!
@ACTD_Official
@ACTD_Official 5 лет назад
@@soaviessunglasses8303 You're welcome!
@icecreamhero2375
@icecreamhero2375 5 лет назад
characters should only go off model for a visual joke other wise they should be consistent
@bootylicious5
@bootylicious5 5 лет назад
I thought this was talking about how overused the SU style was for other artists. O o p s .
@falconmain252
@falconmain252 5 лет назад
@Alicia Fernández for real
@sarahvalerie4307
@sarahvalerie4307 5 лет назад
well it says animation in the title so when you think about it it's easy to recognize it's not about that
@artisteclipse
@artisteclipse 5 лет назад
Shullie Shu same here
@lma6808
@lma6808 5 лет назад
Yeah that shit needs to stop too.
@001athf
@001athf 5 лет назад
Lol that too
@sonicpstv2
@sonicpstv2 5 лет назад
Artistic Freedom: Laziest form of art.
@hoe7672
@hoe7672 5 лет назад
big fat mood
@hartwyrm
@hartwyrm 5 лет назад
nah it’s more rebbecca doesn’t know what artistic freedom is.
@cameoshadowness7757
@cameoshadowness7757 5 лет назад
@@hartwyrm exactly.
@lovelytigress227
@lovelytigress227 5 лет назад
All freedom must be limited by law or discipline, otherwise you have complete anarchy.
@peakautism
@peakautism 5 лет назад
i thought that said autistic freedom
@GreenVikeenArt
@GreenVikeenArt 5 лет назад
3:30 Just an error there, you compared a storyboard to key frames, those are not the same. Storyboards are sketches to adapt the script into visuals and key frames are done by the animator after the storyboard have been approved and turned into the animatic for the timing. The problem with the Steven Universe is that they model the key frames on the storyboard instead of the character sheets. Storyboards can be a bit off model and it isn't too much a big deal (depending of your boss, I had one director who was very touchy about that), not the same with key frames. See some Disney and Dreamwork storyboards, they can be very sketchy and sometime they're not even with the final design of the characters. But yeah, Steven Universe animation is not very good.
@ballzcorps5146
@ballzcorps5146 5 лет назад
I agree, Storyboards are a guide for the animators overseas to use as a guide to what they need to animate for the final product. (Which is why model sheets are imperative so that it can look as close as possible to the original design.) The animation for Steven Universe isn't bad (Art Direction and animation are two different things.) its not Nickelodeon or Disney Channel quality but it's decent. The art is the main issue here, having slight differences in faces and hair is one thing (Shows a small stylistic choice by the artist) but varying sizes that contradict EARLIER scenes is downright unprofessional.
@berserker3414
@berserker3414 5 лет назад
@SenpaiGamerBlue nope, they are NOT. And I'm talking about experience here, I did some storyboards and those are made to adapt the script or narrative (text) into visuals. Keyframes are certain frames between the start of a movement and the end of another (not between scenes). You can have multiple loops/mov circles in each segment, like the eyes, arms, whatever. This in the case of animators like former Disney ones. Tv animation is too sloppy and low cost due to lack of time. Even our work was better than SU
@SoggycereaI
@SoggycereaI 3 года назад
Yeah so when she pointed it out it bothered me a bit cause it makes what she said there just wrong and misleading, but ye that was the only thing (Actually, no, it also bothered me how she used the balanced breakfast clip, when that was obviously meant to look goofy. I see a lot of people pick out snapshots of the characters *intentionally* made to look dumb, and act as if that’s all-in-all. Doesn’t matter whether you don’t find it funny or not, as some has tried to defend.)
@untrustworthybagel
@untrustworthybagel 5 лет назад
Can’t wait for the tumblr response to this based on just the title. Kinda like this comment…
@dullicecream
@dullicecream 5 лет назад
I use Tumblr and my first reaction of the title was "Well, it does change a lot, so that's fair" while also seeing the thumbnail
@untrustworthybagel
@untrustworthybagel 5 лет назад
Kittu Spelled With a U honestly I’m not using tumblr as the actual site, I mean it as in the type of people who do make assumptions based on the surface level. Tumblr is good, but tumblr is bad.
@dullicecream
@dullicecream 5 лет назад
@@untrustworthybagel Ah fair enough ^^'
@carnivalissmellsnotgood2324
@carnivalissmellsnotgood2324 5 лет назад
@@untrustworthybagel lol is it 2016
@untrustworthybagel
@untrustworthybagel 5 лет назад
carnival is smells not good I’m stuck in a perpetual loop of the 2010s my dude
@TheSuperZOS
@TheSuperZOS 5 лет назад
[insert tumblr going absolutely apeshit on you for even suggesting that SU isn't ideal]
@kodey1m
@kodey1m 5 лет назад
Sounds about right. Which honestly is just hilarious to watch.
@tomatosoup7704
@tomatosoup7704 5 лет назад
nah man tumblr knows. look at amino instead
@justinemartin1255
@justinemartin1255 5 лет назад
I've seen more comments about tumblr than actual tumblr posts about this.
@weloveblackpink6383
@weloveblackpink6383 5 лет назад
Justine Martin right people always want to shit on tumblr
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 5 лет назад
Anyone remeber when 4 Chan did the Steven Universe OP?
@LegoManiac_101
@LegoManiac_101 5 лет назад
Anime has more “Artistic Freedom” than American Animation.
@harveyplissken4604
@harveyplissken4604 4 года назад
Ain't that the damn truth.
@deepfried9036
@deepfried9036 4 года назад
what about gumball
@Champoy000
@Champoy000 4 года назад
Kikoojap
@deepfried9036
@deepfried9036 3 года назад
Samurai jack
@sonloto8010
@sonloto8010 3 года назад
That true. And more consistency with character models.
@jeanvanwyk9529
@jeanvanwyk9529 5 лет назад
As an avid fan of SU I agree with this 100%. The show itself, the characters, plot, scenery, music etc. is amazing and some shots are beautiful. Unfortunately I feel like everything has become rather disjointed; it just feels like trying to read 7 different hand writings on an essay that should have been typed out in Times New Roman in the first place. I think the general aesthetic of SU is lovely but it's been haphazardly and flippantly stitched together, which honestly sucks because otherwise it's great. It just means that by the end of the episode the only thing hooking me is the plot, and the concept of the aesthetic, rather than the aesthetic itself. As contrast, an amazing short animated series with consistency and a lovely stylistic choice is Over the Garden Wall. As comparison, the characters are on model and stylistically the same. This means the story feels cohesive, and not like I'm in an alternate dimension every shot of every episode. I can focus on the story and the beauty of the show. Its a harsh truth; they are professional animators, and they should know better. And as someone who loves the show, it hurts.
@Ashybashy375
@Ashybashy375 5 лет назад
It is an enjoyable show, Only when watching actually plot filled and interesting episodes, which are rare. Don't get me wrong Tumblr, I really enjoy SU but I don't obsess over it because of the poor animation and *way* too many filler episodes. *tumblr is going to kill me for this send help*
@Arella17
@Arella17 5 лет назад
SU is held back by it's run times, the animation is very inconsistent and the stories are either rushed or nonexistent.
@Ashybashy375
@Ashybashy375 5 лет назад
@@Arella17 I agree completely. Though rushed I'm no critic so most plotlines that Rebecca has actually been building for more that a week are more enjoyable.
@jamblastwizard
@jamblastwizard 5 лет назад
Ghosti Boi Is it bad that I *love* filler episodes
@Ashybashy375
@Ashybashy375 5 лет назад
@@jamblastwizard it's your opinion lol idc go crAzy
@rainlily3-oh-5
@rainlily3-oh-5 5 лет назад
Message from the tiny, sane side of tumblr(or at least, one sane person who happens to have tumblr): I agree, And, personally I'd like to see more story of things other than just events where Steven is there Like, I'd like to see a Lars ark of some sort, instead of just FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLERFILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER FILLER
@hannarico8163
@hannarico8163 5 лет назад
i honestly never really noticed it and just thought everyone always looked cute and loved when they looked a bit off haha i was just enjoying the show rip my bad i guess people pay attention to different things when they watch stuff and thats why some aren't bothered by it as much as others are even after the issues you bring up are valid and have been pointed out
@LowestofheDead
@LowestofheDead 4 года назад
I thought I was blind because it never occurred to me, until I saw videos like this one.
@GravyRave
@GravyRave 5 лет назад
I love Steven Universe to death, but MY GOD the show needs some artistic consistency.
@Flemmi
@Flemmi 5 лет назад
maybe.. maybe the long hiatuses are used by the crew to remove any consistancy.
@Bitzy
@Bitzy 5 лет назад
there’s no way. but i hope you’re right
@nicolai611
@nicolai611 5 лет назад
actually not cartoon netwerk schedules everything
@nicolai611
@nicolai611 5 лет назад
@Squidward every country that cartoon Network broadcasts things are most times a mess in my country they show su episodes in 2 am like wtf the hole day is TTG it's a mess in my country America is also quite messy and so on
@dangerwarg9682
@dangerwarg9682 5 лет назад
I heard that it's actually to fix ratings.
@crowspears3265
@crowspears3265 5 лет назад
Oh hello a person if Bill Cipher as a profile.
@tortillaluvsyou
@tortillaluvsyou 4 года назад
Animators: So how tall should we make Steven and Connie? Rebecca Sugar: Y e s
@mustardyboi4187
@mustardyboi4187 5 лет назад
I think we can all agree that “Mindful Education” (despite being poorly written) is the only good episode in terms of storyboarding. Although it was due to an experienced story-board being hired.
@maxargentum5001
@maxargentum5001 5 лет назад
Did you watch Lily Orchard's video too. Not knocking you but I just rewatched it and it just popped in my head
@tseries6622
@tseries6622 5 лет назад
I honestly don’t really care about the inconsistencies. It doesn’t distract me from the plot. But I agree about it being unprofessional.
@PengyDraws
@PengyDraws 5 лет назад
B series delet ur channel pls, I will give u bob and vegana.
@emadrewington
@emadrewington 5 лет назад
@@PengyDraws give baljeet bob and vagene
@MrSuperbeast92
@MrSuperbeast92 4 года назад
"I'm not mad. I'm just disappointed." Excruciating words to hear. Lol *gets the megaphone*
@SLapearl
@SLapearl 5 лет назад
Being a Steven Universe fan I actually agree
@lawiwi_6537
@lawiwi_6537 5 лет назад
Love how hazbin hotel (a RU-vid series [not RU-vid red, just normal free RU-vid]) has better animation that Steven Universe (a show on a fully funded television program) ☕️☕️
@sponchi8678
@sponchi8678 5 лет назад
To be honest many animations on RU-vid look better and TV cartoons. Even animation memes that are made by young teenagers
@Luke-lq9rn
@Luke-lq9rn 5 лет назад
@@sponchi8678 It's mainly cause when you work independently you have an infinite amount of time to work on your projects.
@angrygrouse4989
@angrygrouse4989 5 лет назад
DEADLINES!!! YOU HAVE NONE WHEN WORKING ON YOUR OWN, YOU DONWHEN WORKING IN A TEAM FOR TV!
@hcmiryuku9148
@hcmiryuku9148 5 лет назад
i can't wait to read a bunch of mad 10-14 SU fans screaming in the comment section!
@notaninstrument7707
@notaninstrument7707 5 лет назад
Well it's been a month. Still mostly civil discourse. The only person I've seen thus far who comes off as a ten year old is the guy that said "I don't like Steven Universe." Very insightful commentary indeed.
@mousebiteslover69
@mousebiteslover69 5 лет назад
well i’ve seen a kpop fan who gives off the “i watch rick and morty and my intelligence is unmatched” guy vibe who tries to disagree with people who agree with the video.
@mousebiteslover69
@mousebiteslover69 5 лет назад
Shronk Donk FUCK
@dogsocks6236
@dogsocks6236 5 лет назад
Honestly I mean this in the nicest way possible, but 98% of the fandom are above 16 and I've scrolled through the comments for a bit and everyone who likes seven universe actually agrees with the video
@dot2382
@dot2382 3 года назад
@@mousebiteslover69 a kpop fan? What are they doing here
@nicco9851
@nicco9851 5 лет назад
the fact that anime rn is way more professionally animated than shows here is kinda hilarious bc anime typically dont have a giant budget(the whole reason they do the "cheek mouth" thing is that for some studios it's way too costly to try to animate normal mouths, not a style choice) and SU is said to have like $1,000,000 in the budget lol
@ysabellamedrano3360
@ysabellamedrano3360 5 лет назад
yes, there are some beautifully drawn anime with decent animation, but you can't pretend that anime as a whole is doing great. just like in western cartoons style, we have accept mediocrity with plot and characters. you could put aside some anime and be like "but look! this has great characters and style!" (boku no hero, cells at work, your name), but we have to admit to ourselves that anime has become horribly oversaturated. with that said, western animation ain't doing so hot. we have a few good ones, like over the garden wall, bojack horseman, infinity train, samurai jack, and it goes on. all of those with unique and pretty decent styles, but they're not as polished. they are, however, a lot less cliche than a lot of popular anime in terms of character tropes and the scenarios. either way, we're kind of at an impasse.
@chickenstripz1961
@chickenstripz1961 5 лет назад
You're incorrect, the average anime budget is higher than the average Western cartoon budget.
@ArtistXXX
@ArtistXXX 5 лет назад
@@ysabellamedrano3360 Not true, I've watch a lot of anime that, even tho, it has some poorly animations the stories are still incredibly good. High quality animations are still being made, and comparing to how Japan treats their cartoons to how mediocre western (trying to kill 2D animation with "live action" reboots") cartoons are, is laughable. There are so many well animated shows with great stories and art that to call them mediocre is a huge understatement. Hell, there are even high quality very well detailed anime movies with great art styles and beautiful animations still being made. Look at the anime on Netflix! There's barely anything cartoon related properties here in the US, mediocre or not, it is inmensibly better then what people do here in the US and is something that I'm glad Japan has not forgotten.
@Growler673
@Growler673 5 лет назад
It's worth noting that lots of animators working on japanese anime have to deal with terrible work conditions and low pay. Thus churning out hundreds of episodes cheaply becomes slightly easier.
@ArtistXXX
@ArtistXXX 5 лет назад
@powerstar 2028 Haven't you seen Devilman Crybaby, Violet Evergarden, One Punch Man, Attack on Titan? Look, I understand the animation used to be a lot more complicated back in the day, but they weren't perfect eather. When I first saw Ghost in Shell my first reaction was: "That was ok, the mouths looked terrible and the jumping made me dizzy". There are so many advances that japanese animation has now that sometimes it outshines the classics, transitions look smooth now, the mouths move better, the color grading and images looks stable, etc. Is only the annoyense of the use of cgi that makes me cringe everytime. I still have to see Cowboy Bebop and Evangelion, but they look like they suffer of similar problems like in GinS. I never ask for reboots, but I'm sure they can do a better job now then they could back in the day. There's still a ton of great modern anime out there, be glad they haven't reach levels of "Modern Art" cringe.😑 The stories are dope still.
@JLacay
@JLacay 5 лет назад
According to Ian Jones Quartey, a former storyboard artist of Steven Universe and creator of OK KO, Steven Universe goes off-model because he thinks it's "funny" when characters go off model and to let staff art style be shown. That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. The first thing for a show creator and staff do to is stay on model, even Johnny Test and Teen Titans Go know the concept. This makes them look unprofessional, sloppy and lazy staff that they can't even get the height right. If he wants the staff art to be shown, then they can do it online, not on a cartoon show. Like for goodness sake, it's their job to be on-model of the character and they aren't doing what's it required!
@serenasongbird
@serenasongbird 5 лет назад
Ginika Duck wha- I don’t even know anymore x’D
@schrimply5980
@schrimply5980 5 лет назад
Saying it's a stylistic choice is the equivilent of someone saying "ITS MY STYLE" when criticizing anything in someones art
@Taylor-ud9dx
@Taylor-ud9dx 5 лет назад
Let’s be honest, the animation got lazier after the first season, and gets even lazier every season
@ohdeer8920
@ohdeer8920 5 лет назад
r0zu _ THEN WHY DOES IT TAKE FOREVER FOR THREE EPISODESSSS
@killerpineapple5836
@killerpineapple5836 5 лет назад
Wtf, the first season's art is the worst
@sharkiefish5295
@sharkiefish5295 5 лет назад
Idk the diamond days arc is definitely much better
@danielthedegenerate
@danielthedegenerate 5 лет назад
@@sharkiefish5295 That's because Diamond Days is storyboared by some different people.
@spweesh
@spweesh 5 лет назад
@@danielthedegenerate Yeah, there's that team, and the other team that does everything without using the models
@baizhuwaitingroom7057
@baizhuwaitingroom7057 5 лет назад
I agree with everything except the storyboard part. They're not meant to be pretty, unless you're going to present them to a client who doesn't know shit about the process of making an animation and would think this is how the final product will look like, many artists consider polishing storyboards to be a waste of time. It's the quality of the shot that matters at this stage, not the quality of the drawing (see Miraculous Ladybug storyboards for example).
@DeadKraken
@DeadKraken 5 лет назад
@Squidward I agree, storyboards are a very important part in the 2D animation process, and even if they don't(and shouldn't honestly, it's a waste of time) look pretty and clean, they should still look clear, have interesting angles and characters correctly proportioned to each other. I've seen some very rough\sketch like storyboards with the bare minimum in terms of polish, that still gave life to very cool animated moments, but the work was all done in-house(with a team of people working in the same building), not commissioned to other studios. When you commission to other studios you should be very clear with what you want and how you want it, to make the work easier for everybody. SU storyboards are bland and unclear, add to that the encouragement to not use model sheets and a lazy quality control, and you have a show that is as visually un-appealing as it can be.
@melissafantaski6039
@melissafantaski6039 5 лет назад
i absolutely LOVE SU, but i have to agree. its very distracting at times.
@dot2382
@dot2382 3 года назад
@Wow Wow Wubbzy ._.
@strawbeebop
@strawbeebop 5 лет назад
Artistic freedom shouldn't matter in a professional animation that is viewed by millions. It is a show that should have a consistant, appealing style. Artistic freedom could be shown through new characters that are introduced or interesting background, color, or lighting choices. It's distracting to see a really cute Pearl with a wide nose and sweet face in later seasons versus an awkward Pearl with small eyes, a giant yaoi hand and long, thin nose in the first season.
@christiantenjo8816
@christiantenjo8816 5 лет назад
I fucking love Steven universe and its actually one of my favorite shows, so I always take criticism with a grain of salt because most of the people are so quick to jump on the hate train that they cant appreciate the show for what it is. However, I wholeheartedly agree with you and think they need to change if they want to be taken seriously.
@arlosteiner8382
@arlosteiner8382 5 лет назад
MuxyMadix is reword the sentence. When you say you fucking love a show and then take criticism with a grain of salt that comes off as criticism of your thing riles you up
@thiswowzer3217
@thiswowzer3217 5 лет назад
You should take criticism with a huge hug if you were a true fan of the show, because you would like to have the maximum quality and for the director to actually use the budget and get more animators to work. If you are a "fan" (of the company) then go ahead and do what you're doing. At the end the animation will be made by one person and with a sloppy sad quality.
@galaxyswirlproductions3359
@galaxyswirlproductions3359 5 лет назад
This person isnt hating she's critictiquing. It's called constructive criticism .
@jane6547
@jane6547 5 лет назад
Jeez did you people even READ their comment?
@thiswowzer3217
@thiswowzer3217 5 лет назад
@@jane6547 This is not just to tell her but the ones who will read my comment, since she said that she did that on the past I've just told her why should ask for more quality in place of criticize other people who actually do it. If I sounded rude I apologise but I will not retrive my words, in the animation world, to unappreciate the work of an animator is so common that people overworks them a lot to pay them a misery. So please, for the actual show tell Rebecca Sugar to use the budget well and pay animators decently at least.
@yoshinpixels9924
@yoshinpixels9924 5 лет назад
Stylistic choice is "Hey, let's make Hugo the biggest character in any SF game he's in to emphasise his HUGENESS No model sheets screams of stylistic indifference
@realgdxp
@realgdxp 5 лет назад
Lapis changes frequently as many have noticed lol
@realgdxp
@realgdxp 5 лет назад
Idk anymore xD
@dernekromantsino4109
@dernekromantsino4109 5 лет назад
Funny , an hour ago i was like "Miss Zizi hasnt uploaded nothing in months " and then this pops up, cool.
@TheHarlequinHatter
@TheHarlequinHatter 5 лет назад
While I agree that SU has some bad art faux pas (It's gotten better), I wish people would stop using the balanced breakfast example. That scene was clearly pushed was off model intentionally for comedic effect, and it's really effective.
@KonEl-BlackZero
@KonEl-BlackZero 5 лет назад
Its cringy at best
@TheHarlequinHatter
@TheHarlequinHatter 5 лет назад
@@KonEl-BlackZero That's a fine opinion you got there, but it's still a bad example, because it's not laziness on the artists' part, it's an intentional gag. Personally I like it. That face perfectly describes how I feel after making a bad pun.
@rebbiejoanthony5362
@rebbiejoanthony5362 5 лет назад
Exactly. Another example frequently referenced is Steven's melting face when trying to avoid telling Connie about the time Amethyst cracked (can't remember the episode name). The face was so ridiculous in that scene that it couldn't have been anything but intentional.
@BlueBirb-dq7sl
@BlueBirb-dq7sl 5 лет назад
Ok, I'm not a critic or anything of that sort, but, let's compare Rebecca Sugars animation to, say, Vivziepop, an animator here on youtube. Viv's art style is consistent with both her art, comics, and her animation. And here's Rebecca Sugar with a HUGE animation budget and dozens of professional animators, and well, just... Look at it.
@liddolmenace
@liddolmenace 5 лет назад
I love how Yellow Pearl used to be as tall as Yellow Diamond's knee but now she's like barely taller than her foot lol
@lukiicookie6569
@lukiicookie6569 5 лет назад
In SU Every single thing is in a fuked up shape and become taller smaller fatter thiner or even different
@cellphone9605
@cellphone9605 5 лет назад
*I'm not mad, I'm just disappointed*
@eganplaysMC
@eganplaysMC 5 лет назад
@@erm12302 *dad
@jellofish1455
@jellofish1455 4 года назад
Remember when this fandom bullied a girl to suicide because she used "artistic freedom"
@1nk_Ma1D3N
@1nk_Ma1D3N 5 лет назад
That face in the thumbnail killed me
@ang3lf4ce00
@ang3lf4ce00 5 лет назад
I don't think the SU animation is terrible, there are some really great scenes... when the characters are on model. I can agree that these characters go off model way too much, I can understand doing it for comedic effect but that's rarely the case for SU, most of the time they're off model just because there's no supervision over the artists. When the fans can clearly tell which episodes were drawn by which artist, it's sort of a problem. a lot of the characters (peridot, lapis, steven, connie, etc) all seem to be getting shorter, for example. I try not to let it bother me too much bc 1) I know next to nothing about animation and 2) I enjoy su for the story (even though that has it's issues as well), but even as a casual fan, the animation errors are unfortunately very noticeable.
@lapraslazuli4304
@lapraslazuli4304 5 лет назад
as a huge steven universe fan,,, i completely agree with you lmaooo i love the show so much but oh geez the inconsistencies
@ineedzemedic5810
@ineedzemedic5810 5 лет назад
*says Skullgirls once* *FALLS OUT IF CHAIR*
@esperino07
@esperino07 5 лет назад
My heart just skipped a beat because *holy crap I LOVE skullgirls-*
@CosmicKitsune12
@CosmicKitsune12 5 лет назад
There is 666 comments. All this hate is summoning Satan
@scorpiiiondude3327
@scorpiiiondude3327 4 года назад
Honestly. You're so right though. It's...really scary tbh, I just don't know why they can't even keep the same height for the main characters- the crystal gems. Sometimes in the original show Steven is like the height of my lamp and then all the sudden he's twice as tall. Most of the time I didn't notice this until watching videos addressing these things.
@iyunganam3885
@iyunganam3885 5 лет назад
The only SU styled show that I like is gumball. but still, Almost every character is in a different style.
@dollartreejadenyuki6046
@dollartreejadenyuki6046 5 лет назад
Oak synia same.but i also like Gravity Falls and the first few seasons of SVSTFOE if that counts
@sponchi8678
@sponchi8678 5 лет назад
It works out well for Gumball since it's a comedy show and having every character in a different style (Paper, 3D, pixelated etc.) is an interesting and unique choice for a cartoon and considering all the weird stuff in Gumball and the fact that it's being called Amazing But for Steven Universe it just makes everything look worse. It's supposed to be a serious, deep and refreshing cartoon yet they make it look like a comedy. It's fine if it's both comedy and a deep show but changing the character looks every two scenes just makes it look a bit lazy. I'm not saying that the people who worked on it are lazy, i'm just saying it LOOKS LIKE it's lazy and that they haven't tried to keep the characters' looks as they are If they want it to be both comedy and a serious show maybe they could add some fun jokes from time to time or make the characters chibby in a certain scene where it's needed, like in some other shows (Can't give examples but i'm sure i have seen it somewhere else) but to not change the looks every five seconds and just to keep the characters as they are most of the time But that's just my opinion
@dollartreejadenyuki6046
@dollartreejadenyuki6046 5 лет назад
_Sponchi_ i agree 100%
@sponchi8678
@sponchi8678 5 лет назад
@@dollartreejadenyuki6046 Thank you OwO Glad to see somebody to agree with me in the comments for one time ! I mostly get stated that my opinions are wrong
@joshuakorynta3385
@joshuakorynta3385 5 лет назад
It suffers under CalArts, but at the same time uses different artstyles. Even anime artists helped in the show!
@basedleafeon3221
@basedleafeon3221 5 лет назад
What's more funny is that the episode "Mindful Education" and the Pink Steve fusion at the end of "Battle of Heart and Mind" had an amazingly done and *consistent* animation that was just beauty for the eyes to witness! ... Funny thing is that they had to get external help for those... A storyboarder guest from Trigger Studios and James Baxter himself. Its just so sad that there has to be a guest animator for the show to look at least *descent*.
@texasred9372
@texasred9372 4 года назад
2:04 Ay those avocados aren’t symmetrical.
@edgyedgington3788
@edgyedgington3788 5 лет назад
I never liked Steven Universe. Steven's voice alone is enough to make me want to set something on fire. Also, the fanbase acts like someone built Auschwitz on their Minecraft server when people make any negative comments about the show and that's funny.
@spagettiinoodles5429
@spagettiinoodles5429 5 лет назад
more like a nazi just had cocaine
@salamir0semyosotis21
@salamir0semyosotis21 5 лет назад
I mean, every fandom is like that so... eh? You don't have to like it, but to not like a show based off of the idiotic actions of other people doesn't make sense. You can like the show and hate the fandom, it's 100% ok. Don't let other people define you're feelings for something I'm sure you haven't seen more than 5 episodes of. And if you have, then my bad ^^
@evangelion.2430
@evangelion.2430 5 лет назад
Salami R0se 《Myosotis》 it’s their opinion lmfao
@salamir0semyosotis21
@salamir0semyosotis21 5 лет назад
Clorox Bleach I don't know why you had to point that out to me. I know what an opinion is, hold your breath ^^
@boa9557
@boa9557 5 лет назад
@@salamir0semyosotis21 u dont even need to watch it to know if its bad
@Pands1031
@Pands1031 5 лет назад
To be honest, I came into this thinking I was going to click off within a minute or two because it would be another mad person ranting at how "a show like this could get so popular" but you made a very compelling argument! The reason Rebecca Sugar gave is something along the lines of what a young fanfiction writer would give for killing off a character so their OC could be with the hot protagonist. It's just sloppy and I totally agree with you.
@ErieRosewood
@ErieRosewood 5 лет назад
4:07 I am so happy you included Obituary. It really needs more recognition. Great video!
@toonseytunes5312
@toonseytunes5312 5 лет назад
The problem with this show is doesn't know what it want's to be! Is it a Action show or a Comedy show? Don't get me wrong it can work both, but you need to structure some ideas that can work on not, and not only that some of this storyboard's are good at telling comedy rather than action, and you can see that fight scene in SU, they are lazy, boring, flat and a lot of inconsistencies, there's not even weight to the character's! Great video as always Miss Zi-Zi! ^^
@LyokoGem
@LyokoGem 5 лет назад
Yeah, one of the biggest problems with the show is its immense lack of focus.
@dangerwarg9682
@dangerwarg9682 5 лет назад
@Squidward That wouldn't explain the filler. There's many stories, cartoons, and movies that just waste your time with tons of character. LOOK AT THE CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! THAT MAKES US GOOD! They thought with no level of sense or forethought. On top of that, clearly a lot of the filler is due to a severe lack of focus.
@Chris-np2vc
@Chris-np2vc 5 лет назад
Its fantasy
@cheyennebokuhoot3153
@cheyennebokuhoot3153 4 года назад
The only thing I love about SU's artstyle is the very sparkly- very creative, nice to the eye, background
@Findingmyplace1
@Findingmyplace1 5 лет назад
I really enjoy the story of Steven Universe but I completely agree that the style is inconsistent and it bugs me
@tbgbeats4480
@tbgbeats4480 5 лет назад
I feel like Steven Universe could have really benefitted from a Kill la Kill-esque style, but sadly we’re stuck with this terrible animation quality that, frankly, makes the show difficult to watch
@FlareandLiLy
@FlareandLiLy 5 лет назад
@Squidward hm interesting where actual direction can lead the finished product
@thiswowzer3217
@thiswowzer3217 5 лет назад
@Squidward but that is only one episode tho
@todarra6435
@todarra6435 5 лет назад
Steven Universe is wonderful, i really dont care the animation quality, have a great history and plot twists, im talking about ''Change your Mind'' too
@kawaiikitten3135
@kawaiikitten3135 5 лет назад
For me it's satisfying to me with this character style. I like it.-l
@caramelllllllll
@caramelllllllll 5 лет назад
For me personally, in terms of the storyline it's fine but I fucking hate the animations. It's done inconsistenly especially with the unruly character sizes changing each time throughout each episode. Oh God, they don't even follow the character models.
@CentipedeChan
@CentipedeChan 5 лет назад
Yeah having a style is great and all but when it's done poorly with minimal effort, then that's the issue. The whole arguments for this is just wanting to promote lazy ideas and technique for the sake of having it out. In the wise words of shigeru miyamoto - "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."
@somedumbhoe7123
@somedumbhoe7123 5 лет назад
I’m late to the party, but to be fair, 3:36 those aren’t storyboards, those are layouts. It’s true that animators copy what they see, but it is also an animators job to keep the characters consistently on model. If you look at some storyboards for other shows, they can look like shit all they want, it’s a matter of the *artistic direction* and references they receive. I’m not here to defend the show, believe me, it looks like trash, but, yeah.
@jentoons5732
@jentoons5732 4 года назад
I actually think this is SVA’s fault. I’ve taken SVA’s animation courses, and I was taught that “the motion is all that matters” and it “doesn’t matter if it’s off model or the anatomy is off.” And I was like, “I think it does!” Yeah it’s definitely SVA. Rebecca sugar has been brainwashed by them.
@carliteaux
@carliteaux 5 лет назад
ok one thing about storyboards, it's supposed to indicate composition, action and storytelling. whether things are on model or not is up to the lead animators. which they don't do, because ms Sugar says no and encourages/pushes different styles and inconsistencies. do not blame the artists. because a storyboard is drawn poorly doesnt mean the show will look poorly too. please for the love of god look at storyboards from other shows. it is how its done.. do not blame the artists. blame the direction.
@kodey1m
@kodey1m 5 лет назад
I'd argue everyone is to blame. Everyone is a piece in the puzzle. The direction itself (as it is here) is often the main problem sure because they are the guiding hand and that is what Zi-Zi did state by the fact that the Sugar pushes all this through like this. But everyone is still a cog in the product and still does take some of the blame.
@carliteaux
@carliteaux 5 лет назад
@@kodey1m The thing is, the show looks good. The perspective isn't off, the lip-synch is on point, the lines are smooth.. meaning the skills are definitely there. When the characters are off model in animation they are usually off model in ways that go beyond proportions. When everything else is professional and only the proportions are messed up it tells me it's intentional, not a mistake, just artists following directions. So I disagree when she says the characters have been drawn 'terrible' they literally are the same except when it comes to the head/body ratio, which is obviously a choice on Sugar's part.. I'm not saying it's a valid choice, I think it's confusing, but the artists are not to blame in my opinion ^^
@kodey1m
@kodey1m 5 лет назад
@@carliteaux In this sense it is quite plausible this is the case. I haven't watched the show so I can't say for sure if these constant changes look deliberate or just haphazard. It would largely be Sugar's fault if that is the case. And it does sound like it would be very confusing. Though at the same time if the artists work closely with her and she is entirely to blame surely the artists would be critiquing this choice wouldn't they? Since artistic teams generally do work closely with each other (though the actual animators probably aren't close to the storyboarders). EDIT: I mean a lack of internal critique is the reason the Star Wars prequels were so bad.
@carliteaux
@carliteaux 5 лет назад
@@kodey1m Oh right well if you haven't watched the show your critique is damned biased. Same goes for everyone who's only watching still frames of any cartoon depicting its flaws without having watched the piece (even the big studios mess up royally i.e bloody Elsa with the hair that goes through her limbs and defies physics). Now, some people who watch the show like myself, still find it confusing, but obviously the show is doing so well therefore most people don't find it confusing at all. Some might even think it's interesting and bold, or even simply but a detail (which in fact more often than not goes unnoticed)
@MissJazzDaFunk
@MissJazzDaFunk 5 лет назад
There’s no layout department
@A_JinglyRabbit
@A_JinglyRabbit 5 лет назад
I never noticed that the art style changes in SU until I found your video Edit: or the proportions
@jordantorres8521
@jordantorres8521 2 года назад
the character design even changed DURING an episode, i believe it was message received at the very end
@ianwiskle812
@ianwiskle812 5 лет назад
Something that many people don’t know is that this isn’t necessarily just the storyboarders fault, it also depends a lot on which studio animates it, Steven Universe is animated by 2 different studios: Rough Drafts and Sunmin. The first on is the one that tends to go off model and even have shots that look worse than the actual storyboard, this studio is responsible for episodes like Laser Cannon or Same old World, the other studio (Sunmin) on the other hand, is the one were they do follow the model sheets and outline instructions and the one that tends to be more off model, this studio is responsible for episodes like Mr. Greg, Mindful Education or the second half of Reunited. There are many storyboarders who are criticized for their style , although there are episodes were their characters looks great but in others bad, so its not a coincidence, its the studio that animates the episode, here’s an example of how much the storyboarders style is affected depending on the studio: modestmondays.tumblr.com/post/160098938975/alonetogether-made-a-small-comparison-chart
@notaninstrument7707
@notaninstrument7707 5 лет назад
I never knew that. More people need to see this comment
@ianwiskle812
@ianwiskle812 5 лет назад
Not an Instrument Thanks and yeah, not too many people know that
@notaninstrument7707
@notaninstrument7707 5 лет назад
@@ianwiskle812 I've been directly quoting your comment in replies to people. Thanks for spreading the word
@ianwiskle812
@ianwiskle812 5 лет назад
Not an Instrument Great 👍
@gabebolden9394
@gabebolden9394 2 года назад
Characters being the wrong size? Bruh. Araki has been smoking that shit since he wrote Jojo's part 4. Koichi has been 3' tall forever, and Hazamada might as well be a shape shifter. Mf'r slides from 5'11" to 2'10".
@sanwi0zzz271
@sanwi0zzz271 5 лет назад
> dragon maids are better than rocks finally, a good and valid opinion
@seahawk193
@seahawk193 5 лет назад
Why did the words "south park" make me so happy? -i think i'm watching the show too much-
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