The Submarine too Big to Hide 

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Turning any nuclear powered ship into a museum is dicey at best. There would be a LOT of radioactive materials in the engine room that would be VERY expensive to remove before you'd ever let people near it. As the USN starts retiring the Nimitz class CVN's in the coming decades no one's really counting on any of them being preserved.

@@tancar2004 Nope, true there are areas that have a higher background than others but there are sailors working next to those areas during five to six hour shifts multiple times a day with no effects. I doubt a tour group spending five minutes at most in those areas will get any more than what they would get from the flight over to see the museum. As far as the reactor compartments they will be defueled and most of the hot spots will have decayed or been taken care of with the crud bursts and clean ups during the final shutdowns and cooldowns by the time the ship is ready for a museum. I mean they have tours through Pripyat and Chernobyl, I'm sure they could get at least one of these fit for museum work.

@@tancar2004 yes you arecorrect …but imagine viewing such a colossal piece of history

Yeah I would love to see one in person.

Russia can't even keep its own aircraft Carrier the only one it has in well operating condition I doubt they would turn the behemoth into a museum but it you're right it would be cool

Any contact with a Russian sub is TOP SECRET...you might not have known about it.

Typically 1 person will say it's noisey and that fact gets parroted around endlessly and before long it becomes a "public fact". Doesn't help that people often compared old tech to modern tech rather than comparing apples to apples and talking about how detectable it was at the time or during its mission (like sailing under the arctic). I don't really know enough about the Typhoon to argue facts with most people but subs are poorly understood in general. I've heard some people bring up those sneaky Scandinavian diesel subs that "sunk" an aircraft carrier in a war game, often saying what they could do against the US in the open ocean without bringing up their insanely short range and slow speed

He-he. I retired from Typhoon in 1989 after 103 days on patrol. As we were told (and it was confirmed later by Americans) the main source of noise was from secondary pumps.

I know absolutely nothing about submarines but logic tells me that you not finding them could also just mean that you were not near any.

So here's what I heard from Aaron Amick (former 688 sonarman who tracked down Typhoon during his career): if you see a blank spot with no ambient noise, that's your Typhoon

“Over the poles”? Phew they are good.

Thanks for the info! This is just ridiculous, bigger is not necessarily better. Image the magnetic signature you can almost imagine seeing it bending the lines of flux. Also, the amount of water displaced must be similar to a mini tsunami. The engineer who dreamed this up must look like one of those "James Bond" evil scientist characters.

Very true, but correct me if I'm worng (I'm no expert) didnt most typhoon have an SSN escort like a Victor 3 or an akula when they were on deployment? I know a 688 was more than capable of dealing with them but lunching weapons is noisy and takes time?

The Trident 2 has a 8000 km range with 6 warheads. How much range do you need? It can take Moscow out from the coast if Iceland.

@@Crashed131963 Then again with the Arctic opened up due to global warming and give them a ring right up to their doorstep.

Kursk

Don't forget the Red October in the movie was almost twice as small as this sub.

maybe that's the one they wanted him to see :)

One scenario was to loiter beneath the seas and ice post Armageddon to outlast the western subs then launch and destroy anything the west had left. This was one reason they could stay submerged so long.

Well, it was a good thing Ramius was pissed at the politburo and the system in general, lol...

That was the film which inspired me to become a submariner. USS Georgia SSBN 729 1990-2000

If you have the chance you should also read the book. It had some much more detail and story and will rekindle your love for submarines

You don't get the truth from this guy . Nothing but bullshit !!

Actually, it has been declassified, that during the cold ware, U.S. had Los Angeles class submarines following the Typhoon as soon as they left port. So in the case of nuclear war, they would have never been able to launch their ICBM because they have to surface to launch and that time is all that is needed to kill them. Especially if they had to break through ice and clear ice from decks.

@@grast5150 they havent suface launched since the 60s lol dont know how told u that bs.

Lol, awesome

@@mikecyanide7492 haven't ACTUALLY surface launched, or it hasn't been necessary to surface to launch their missiles? Because from what I've heard, only the US has the technology to launch while submerged, it's not an easy task.

they still do

(Not to nitpick but submarines are referred to as 'boats'.)

@@nommadd5758 not that you’re nitpicking.

joke's on them, soon there will be no polar ice cap

@@telesniper2 OK GRETA NOW GO BACK TO BED , IS SCHOOL DAY TOMORROW

@@JamesSmith-ui2hv cope moar

Actually is the opposite. The Russians are masters of maintenance while the USA has less maintenance and reliability management strategies for its inventory: this is not design failure: the ordering of new mil. equipment provides a vast impetus for the economy. The soviet and later the Russian economy had to deal with fewer resources as well as planned economy features of supply resulting for the surplus inventory to become quickly obsolete or scavenged for components. I remember myself in the early 90s such a surplus was even donated to Western Allies in fine condition. P.S. In the NATO manual of mil. capabilities of Russia (92? 93?) there is even a chapter on Russian maintenance where they are praised.

@@christopherneufelt8971 how have Russians mastered maintenance when they can’t even provide vehicles that don’t have rotten rubber tires? Their maintenance seems very, very poor compared to the US

That's why we depended on them to get us to the ISI for a few years.....

@@christopherneufelt8971 Looks at the Kuznetsov whose main propulsion is tug boats was the chapter praising Russian maintenance praising their tug boat availability?

@@Kakarot64. Hi Kakarot. Tug boats are used in case of failure of engines or guidance to shallow ports or guidance to repair-shipyards (maneuvering in small installations). These submarines were huge compared to reparation-installations.

It's sad that humanity will never waste so much titanium and other resources building such massive weapons of war again? Or it's sad that we did it before?

The new Russian Belgorod submarine is longer.

Well it will be interesting to see if a submarine drone carrier will ever be made I'd imagine that would be another behemoth! But yeah, that was nuts when I heard about that, just welding Ti is very difficult compared to even stainless steel, and then to make a whole boat out of it. Even though Russia has essentially the world's supply of the stuff hopefully a lot of it can be recycled into future projects; and before anyone says it, no, just because it had a nuclear propulsion system doesn't mean the whole thing is a giant pile of glowing green goo, just the some of actual reactor components and primary coolant piping would need to be removed and put in a sarcophagus.

@@ats-3693 use the titanium for the supersonic war planes right?🇺🇸

Its sad that, in your opinion, mankind will ever build such a large-scale killing machine again...?

"did not trust their own crews". And here, ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner of stupid comment contest. In late 80s only 6 submarines out of 200+ in Soviet Navy had missiles in flooded area. The main reason for this was simple: first Soviet solid fuel ICBMS were too huge and heavy to fit inside. Additionally it greatly reduced vulnerability of the ship if something went wrong - like in 1991 when test missile on Tk-17 blew up inside the tube during launch they simply dived to quench the fire. No damage to the ship, no damage to other tubes.

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@@sasasasa-lx6cl apart from the burned skin and severely damaged launch tube, including the tube door being blown off, I doubt this was the only damage. Diving wouldn't quench a solid rocket motor as the fuel and oxidizer are mixed together and once ignited its burning till its done underwater or not. It would have aided in dissipating the heat though and would have saved the sub.

@@JK-zx3go After all, solid rocket motors can still burn in space after all.

@@sasasasa-lx6cl I don't understand why Soviet solid fuel ICBM's (I assume you meant SLBM's?) were too huge to fit in their submarine launch tubes while those of NATO countries were not? After all the majority of the solid fuel SLBM's use ammonium perchlorate with crosslinked polybutadiene composite, a fairly easy fuel to produce and one without much variation in impulse output. Any idea how come the Soviets had problems with that?

Montana actually...

@@tsarbomba1 no. That was his XO, who wanted to have a pickup and a recreational vehicle as well as 2 wives in Montana.

Maryland, I believe. Near a sub base, anyway. He sorta taught them soviet tactics, if I remember correctly. Didn't Ramius die? Or am I confusing him with the Cardinal....

@@JediBob609 Amazingly he made it, even though it looks like he died in the movie. Three years later he was a fully qualified paleontologist in Montana, living in a recreational vehicle. Didn't have two wives, though. Shame he couldn't hold onto Ellie. Subs to dinosaurs. Quite a leap in careers...

@@JediBob609 na. He wanted one wife in Montana and another in Arizona. Who knew he wanted to be an over the road trucker?

Use the entire ship as a museum? Yeah, they could fit just about everything possible in it.

@@ryanjones7681 the ship is the museum and if you looked it up instead making yourself look dumb then you would know any decommissioned vessel can be scrapped or saved as a museum ship

@@Tbs93 Russia will not be able to afford it, they will just park it and let it rot away will all the other crap.

@@lw7238 Does titanium oxidize in a salt water environment though? Just one of those folks too busy and frankly lazy to look things up so I can trigger basement dwellers.

@@anydaynow01 What's the problem dumb dumb, did you figure it out yet? That you are the one that was too lazy to look it up.

Only a single Typhoon remains, and if I recall correctly it isn't even used for active duty but rather for missile and other tests.

@@pieterveenders9793 There are plans to refit it with new Sarmat 200 ton ICBMs and send it into service. Its the only nuclear sub that can carry around 20 Sarmats. The Borei class only carries like 2 Sarmats at most if at all it can. So in the near future the only existing Typhoon will go back into service but with Sarmats this time.

@@boikanyoonneng9170 "There are plans to....." do all sorts of things in Russia but they never happen as they dont have the cash, the skilled people, resources or technology.

I watched the Premiere back in the eighties, was a kid by then.

@@LeopardIL2 wow, must have been nice. I saw it a few years after it was released, around 92 or 92. Loved it so much I bought it on DVD when it became available a few years later. Made me look for all Tom Clancy's books. Didn't stop till I read all the original Jack Ryan novels.

That was the case for me, I am not sure how old I was when I saw the movie for the first time but the movie came out when I was roughly 10 When I saw it i loved it so much I bought it on DVD as well, another great classic is K19 The Widow Maker. U571 was garbage.

@@googlreviews7813 Must say I havent seen K19, but I do have Red October and Crimson Tide on dvd. As well as all the old Jack Ryan movies. I agree U571 was horrible.

@@kvinteractive8981 Eh eh I bet you have doing some good reads. There are some good books related Blind Man's Bluff, The Red Star Rouge, and Scorpion, sank by the Soviets buried by the Pentagon. Happy readings!

Imagine the typhoons had a bear on board

At one time the HMS Hood had a wallaby as a mascot. Apparently it didn't do real well in the cold though.

Every submarine had a goat locker.

Just watched a sub movie (1933) about WWI subs, and the mascot was a cat.

@@DaFinkingOrk. In your comment, could you replace a bear with an elephant or giraffe? Just to make it more realistic...

All you say is likely true HOWEVER I'm sure you realize that there a full blown proxy war with US giving Ukraine some of the most advanced weaponry. The US will fight the Russians to the last Ukrainian.

@@nomaam-br549 Not so in the first week. The Ukrainians were unprepared and had not yet received any of the massive amount of money and weaponry from the West yet. A Russian combined arms thunder run to the capital of Kiev ground to a halt under its own weight due to equipment breakdowns and lack of logistical support capability. As inefficient as the USSR was, they could at least road march a field army 75 miles without the entire operation breaking down for multiple days.

what if we look what happened in afghanistan recently..??

@@christineshotton824 western weapons are so unreliable and ukraine is constantly complaining of how they constanty need maintance unlike the soviet actually russian made weapons which ukraine inherited after the collapse of ussr

@@briant5685 I get it. You're a Russian troll attempting to divert attention away from Russia's failures in Ukraine.

5yrs flying in P-3s myself!

Beware with what you shoot.

Project Azorian?

@@Captain_Tumbleweed no Project Sapphire. Short version is the CIA stole reactor material from a manufacturing plant in Kazakhstan to keep from being used in the early 90s.

@@josephotoole9088 Hadn't heard about that one :)

Im almost positive he has.

@@atankersview I'll look thanks.

this had over 200 nuclear warheads,a single of this sub was more than enough to obliterate any adversary

A swimming pool on a sub... I'd say that's a little..... excessive? Tho I could get right behind there being a sauna in my home, lol.

Well, I've been a crewmember on three. Two were Trident submarines....much superior to the typhoons. Tridents have lasted 40+ years and are still in service. Typhoons lasted 8 years...all gone now!

Nuclear subs can't settle on the bottom since their cooling intake is on the bottom. So I'm assuming you think they settled low to the bottom but not at the bottom. This is common knowledge btw.

Hence the Reagan policies. Out spend them and make the enemy outspend themselves. Then the collapse is from within and you don’t need to fire a shot. We, the USA, f’d up the aftermath but it still worked.

what ruined the Soviet Union was socialism...simple as

Or two!

🤣🤣 that's why Kursk is scrap at bottom. How many LA subs blew up

As a born American citizen, it never fails to amaze me the Provincialism that occurs in some people. As if ONLY America has the most Brilliant Engineering minds on the planet. Wake up and smell the Coffee. By the way, America LOST two Fast Attack Nuclear Subs. One because of Faulty Welding and the other due to a Faulty Torpedo. A submarine travels in an Inhospitable Environment. Those who serve in The Silent Service are to be commended at all times from NO matter what country they serve. Try NOT to forget this.@@shonseibert48

Oh my god. A dude with a great name and a great point? Between all the misinformation, literaly bots ad Einsteins with extremely one-sided points? And with a balanced opinion, which is not idealistic dreaming etc. on either of the possible sides, that acknowledges the reality of the situation. What a pleasant surprise. xoxo

Which only works until the caterpillars drown.

I had her and then for a moment... I thought I heard singing.

@@Starman_Dx ryan some things i here dont react well to bullets

They trembled at the sounds of our rockets now they will tremble again at the sound of our silence.

Gotta love the Hunt.

@@Starman_Dx Singing?? Yes, Sir.

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It is too serious lol, Maybe it will be their best ad campaign just because of his voice lol.

maybe they conflated the hot tub for the pool?

Engage the caterpillar drive.

I was just commenting on that. Wasn't the place inland somewhere so the viewer was told he was nuts or on glue. Than sometime later, Ivan started digging a canal to that location?

Bs. There is NO remote viewing, df.

@@808bigisland Well for a big nothing the CIA Shure spent a lot of money on it.

Yeah, I'm sure they'd never make something like that up to justify the millions of dollars they spent researching bullshit.

He also described smaller submarines and claimed they weren't new but older vessels and also claimed they were modifying them not building a brand new vessel, his description of additional rocket tubes is massively incorrect. Turns out he was not even vaguely right he even thought he was given co-ordinates for Finland at one point which was a neutral country in the cold war with no soviet shipyards or even soldiers present in the country. Utter bullshit artists

a behind the scenes would be awesome

If you watch enough you will start noticing the quantity over quality approach taking hold.

@@shize9ine It's interesting that you mention that even as a new content creator I already feel some of those pressures and notice the quality of my very low editing value is at risk sometimes in the rush to get something posted the viewers deserve a quality product with an interesting perspective

@@yetiatlarge555 It takes time to build a channel up, and it's easy to let the numbers/data run you ragged... I've noticed some things, too... BUT usually (since I understand with the algorithms and all) I let dubious details slide... Specifically, if you go back to the "Brown Water Navy" video about the PRB's in Nam, he mentions the second gen' being 1 foot longer, but then rattles off dimensions of 12 feet long, 11 and a half feet at the beam (indicating WIDTH)... so even without being an expert on nautical terms, since "draft" is about how much water is required to float... By context you can tell "at the beam" indicated how wide the boat was... AND then look at the video, and there's NO WAY that boat is 12 feet by 11.5 feet... It would be SQUARE or very close and a ridiculous looking thing... SO obviously THAT was a typo' that slipped past editing and proofs, even the narrator raced through it and never noticed a discrepancy... At first, hell... I wasn't even sure I heard it right, until I got down in the comments and I had to go back and listen to that bit a couple more times (laughing pretty hard at the mental imagery)... NOTHING against the guy(s) or team behind these channels... I DO get it. I try generally to look past the "little stuff"... AND only occasionally enjoy a good chuckle when enunciation or a terminology gets crossed up, or even dimensional quotes are HOPELESSLY skewed out of proportions... I usually either know what he MEANT to say or can tell roughly what should've been there, and most of the time, it's relatively harmless... What's important as you go is that you steadily work to improve... Build UP not backwards... Folks will notice once in a while and when it's particularly funny, we're liable to take the piss out of you, BUT even when it IS like 10,000 assholes are calling you out for something silly, TRY to laugh about it. It's a GOOF... Figure out where it got goofed, and there might be a lesson in there to improve, and after that, DO NOT shoulder the herculean task of trying to apologize or rectify for EVERYBODY... Let them have their fun... They'll get tired of it and move on, eventually. AND remember, if you start bitching at the internet and tell them NOT to do something, that's EXACTLY what they're suddenly going to do and find absolutely fascinating... People tend to be assholes like that... The more you dedicate to "damage control" the less control you'll tend to have over the damage... A few words acknowledging (occasionally) "Yeah, guys... what can I say... I goofed." and maybe the odd re-post if it's "really bad"... AND that's it. Don't let the algorithms chain you down and make you "rush" a project. It's great to hold yourself accountable, but I've always appreciated a better QUALITY product than a cheaper and quicker product... AND I (for one) tend to keep coming back for that. ;o)

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Thank you I appreciate your comments you have an incredible attention to detail. I liked that you focus on the big picture and still enjoy the content regardless of small imperfections .

200,000 might be closer, but still a bargain beyond belief.

Pretty much how it will be in the ocean pretty soon. Lots of AI controlled ships everywhere.

forgot Soviet nuclear powered sauna :)

Boomers operator slowly with minimal equipment running. The double hull also isolated some of the sound. They were designed to operate close to their bases in bastions. A double hull will make it harder to disable or kill, requiring multiple torpedoes. They were also protected by ssns, asw warships and aircraft. They would be tough targets.

Funny, earlier I read a comment from a sonar operator on a Los Angeles class sub, saying they couldn't track one after it submerged because it was so quiet, after all, the thing is coated in anechoic tiles and has multiple hulls for the sound to get through.

This sub has to be the loudess thing in the ocean and what hurts it most is almost all the technology is from the cold war. So that will by defalt make it louder and very easy to detect.