The Supernatural Renaissance (Seasons 12-15 Retrospective) 

The main issue by this point is that so many characters that have died and come back that you're always waiting for a character to come back and expecting any new characters just to die

Honestly I think that it's a good thing Lucifer wasn't redeemed despite what most people say.

Everything in these seasons is hit and miss. Some amazing episodes and plotlines but scattered and disjointed feeling. Despite everything the ending gets me emotional because of my attachment to the characters

michael leaving a part of him in Dean could actually be a lore expansion. the season sam was possessed by gadriel, after gad leaves and cas tries to heal sam he said that there was still remnants of gad's grace in sam.

I always just figured that Chuck becoming an antagonist was the curtain actually lifting; like he was always like this, even his appearances in Season 11, but he was acting. He admitted to pretending being a prophet, why not a more repentant persona in general?

I don't like how the show killed Dean. Dean always said he'd die on a hunt and overall it just felt kinda depressing that he believed it. He had a normal life when Sam was gone, I wish the show proved Dean wrong. This is like a suicide victim saying no one would care then that exact thing happening, no one wants that to be the case. Sam and Dean deserved a happy ending. You can argue what we got was a happy ending but was it? They fought for Earth, not heaven. I think how I'm writing is a bit weird but I just dislike how dean dies in the end.

I'd love to see the cast, crew, or whomever was in charge talk about the reasons and choices to end the show. I know both Jensen, Jared, and the fans wanted to keep the series going, but I feel the writers, show runner, and Studio wanted to end it. The announcement of the show ending came as a real shocker but the end was really near when covid disrupted everything, and everyone pretty much gave up and moved on (and rightfully so, that whole period sucked).

When it comes to the possession of Michael, in The Song Remains the Same, Michael says the vessel concept is a bloodline (at least for Michael and Lucifer), "True vessel but not my only one." He also mentions not leaving the vessel as a "drooling mess" after he got done wearing Dean. There have been other examples of angels returning to prior human vessels that were still around, but I understand the argument that they were normal angels and not archangels. Gabriel though, I believe he created a brand new vessel, changing his identity, so he could hide out on earth from his family, avoiding the upcoming apocalypse (Michael vs Lucifer).

i always interpreted the season 5 title card as Sam's need for demon blood

I loved the Men of Letters storyline. I wish that instead of the prequal that they went with, a Men of Letters TV show would have been made. Maybe an ancestor who lived in the Victorian age.

This retrospective series was very enjoyable to watch through, a lot of nostalgia but I'm still a little hurt that you didn't go more in depth of godstiel, one of my favorite character experimentations in the entire show

37:39 the whole season hinges on sam drinking demons blood

Was waiting for this video eagerly.. thank you!

"Barack Obama's poll numbers dropped drastically following the 2009-2010 Judaeo-Christian apocalypse"

The plot holes are crazy in the dabb era I can find at least 1 every episode far more than carver era

have you considered a "how i'd do s15" type beat? could be interesting

The season 15 episode "Atomic Monsters" defines the purpose of the season as a whole, particularly the exchange between Chuck and Becky. Chuck for all intents and purposes serves the metaphorical role of the writers, directors, creator and just general individuals with power over the scripts, the story. Becky stands in for the fans, sometimes chaotic (as seen in the past) but ultimately well intendtioned and in love with these characters and this universe. Chuck wants to end things in poetic tragedy while Becky wants the boys to finally find happiness after all their struggles. And Becky, being a fan, critiques his direction for the story. Chuck, the creative team, becomes frustrated with said critique and ultimately exerts his power over said story despite Becky's pleas. The entire season is a meta commentary on the creative process, Chuck - ie the writers - is unhinged. And therefore any seeming cohesion issues can be attributed to it. He can do whatever he wants. Is it lazy writing? Maybe. But its pre-established. And personally, focusing an entire episode on how frustrated Chuck is is the near perfect way of doing so. It's his domain, he is exerting his power over it, sense be damned. And the entire season is the Winchesters battle with breaking free of him - breaking free of the constant struggle the writers have put them through. It's the characters just trying to find their own agency outside of writers, outside of fans, outside of critics. And it's a beautiful concept. Supernatural has always been at its best when being meta and so making its final season one big allegory that isn't shy about being one is... brilliant I think. I don't have issue with Chuck's heel turn, especially with how fascinated he seemed with being the man behind the curtain watching and manipulating the narrative in the final scenes of "Swan Song' and "Fan Fiction." It also better explains how he was able to foretell what would happen while pretending to be a profit, because he is literally the one controlling the story, something season 11 does not address at all. I think it fits fairly well as a plot twist in retrospect. As you can probably tell by this point, I love season 15. As a once aspiring writer, who has partaken in studying the craft as well as being a part of discussion groups pertaining to it, it lands fairly well. It isn't perfect, nothing is. There are moments that feel out of place even with knowing about Chuck being pure chaos, creative decisions being suspect at best in our modern culture, there are moments that feel too fan-service centered and poorly weaved (although I agree, the fan service isn't overbearing even if there are moments that could have used it), and from the final half of episode 19 all the way through the finale I believe they fumbled incredibly as so many fans do. But overall I feel it's a success, and, dare I say I find it better then season 5 as a send off. It's one of my favorites. Edit: This video shockingly summed up almost all of my praises/criticisms of season 15 and the series finale in-particular extremely well. Just wanted to give her a shoutout for an excellent deconstruction. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rHEitiHTBeQ.html

To me it felt like Mary not clicking was an intentional feeling in order to show how disconnected she feels cause later on she becomes a fav for me personally

I think my take away after watching this is that, where the show had been steadily eroding my good will, it had managed to retain far more of yours. And honestly, I'm happy for you. Genuinely. I wish I could still look at a show that was at some point my absolute favorite with fondness instead of utter exhaustion and disdain. Where we are in absolute agreement is that this era has a plethora of legitimately great Monster of the Week episodes though! ^_^

so glad to see Season 14 get some love it is always so hated on and it is honestly one of my favourite seasons

aaand I'm crying. Fantastic video. Loved the section about titlecards, lol. You made me think a bit more favorably about these last few seasons, I thank you.

It's refreshing to hear someone talk about 12-15 with an emotion other than hate. I personally recognize they are an inconsistent and at times incoherent mess but overall I found these seasons to be just fun more often than not. It definitely doesn't live up to the high standard set by 1-5 or 11 but I found my enjoyment of it was a lot more than 6-10. Glad to know other people enjoy this era as well.

I honestly just kind of stumbled across these videos, but I've got to admit they're the only review videos I've actually watched all the way through or been interested in. Thank you for all the hard work you put into these, I've actually been waiting for this video to come out for a little while now. It was really interesting, and probably one of the few videos of this length I've bothered sitting through. Good work 💕

Holy shit you're underrated. This was so fun to watch as someone who faded out of the fandom around season 7. This whole sequence of videos was great, but I especially loved the title card breakdown! Super important journalism

Excited (and a bit 😔) that this retrospective has come to a close. Great job bro and thanks for sharing the show with me!

I was a huge fan of this show in high shcool but ended up dropping it after season 12, your vids definitely have convinced me to go back and watch the series again and finish it in full. I'll see you all in april o7

Was eagerly awaiting this man seen them all except this one twice. Wonder what you'll do next man you seem like a good video essayer. Thanks for covering a show I loved even if I feel the same way you do

Honestly I'd watch just about anything that you put out about this show. Even if you broke it down season by season or episode by episode. I've been watching this show since before season 3 came out and while I wasn't a kid when I started watching, I was young enough that I still feel like I grew up watching this show and that it's a part of me, for better or worse lol. This show has such a special place in heart and always will so now that it's over I am really enjoying that it's getting this level of attention from a channel. So yeah, keep them coming and I'll be watching!

Thanks for all the work making these vids of my fav show that was a big part of my life since season one that came out when I was 15 so half my life was spent watching it lol 😎🤟🙏🙏🙏👏

I‘ve been looking forward to this!

👏👏👏Just wow incredible retrospective I mostly agreed with you and honestly I just love supernatural and your videos made me very happy!

I’ve been waiting for this

I was waiting for this

I really enjoyed these retrospective videos, great work! I'd definitely watch Doctor Who retrospective videos, if you ever make them. It became my fav tv show for many years when I started binging it during a difficult time in my life (like you with supernatural).

Yuhuuuuu I was waiting for this

Contemplating my overall thoughts of Supernatural and it just baffles me how big it got, and still is. I mean Season 1 was your ordinary WB teen drama not unlike Dawson’s Creek or 90210, just with an added flavor of ghost hunting. And those shows were influential in their own right but their cultural significance mostly stayed confined to the early 2000s. Supernatural, however, has permanently cemented itself in the zeitgeist for perhaps the rest of the century. Supernatural is associated with almost everything now. Flannel shirts and trench coats are now cosplay; the ‘67 Chevy Impala, considered worthless scrap metal before is now a collectors item, lines of dialogue that are quoted the world over, “ Hey Assbut, Balls, Idgit, Hello Boys, So Get This, Jerk; Bitch,” the list goes on forever. Hell this is the second property to popularize the line, “I’m Batman!” All this from a CW show that was green lit in the aftermath of the character drama boom made possible by Lost’s popularity. There were highs and lows, and there were deep dark chasms that sucked out all joy in the world, but it, and Eric Kripke, left their impact on the world. And also Jared and Jensen. Most actors would kill for a career defining character, and i don’t think they’ll be walking away from Sam and Dean for, say the rest of their lives. Alright, out of thoughts. Everyone go on with your lives, nothing to see here!

I want to thank you so much for making this video. I’m such a huge fan of seasons 12-15 and this is such a great articulation as to why. Even though I acknowledge Seasons 1-5 are the best seasons in terms of quality, seasons 11-15 are just so wacky and fun; they are my favourites.

Covid basically killed any chance of character returns in the final episode unfortunately but I gotta admit I love the finale episode because it’s just about Sam and Dean, i always thought it would end (post season 5 anyway) with both boys in heaven. That just fit to me because we watched them come back to life so many times and it just wasn’t natural.

Man your Supernatural retrospectives were great I loved them and if you do a doctor who I’d watch it plenty!

I loved how Mary come back, how she was what LOVE knew Dean needed. Dean needed to heal that wound so he could start to really dive deep into himself and fully actualize himself. Michael was his dark mirror, knowing what Dean really wanted and taunting him with it. Dean had to face Michael to fully be himself. And all the hermetical clues and lore that was woven into the later seasons is just *chef's kiss*. They practically painted God as the Demiurge which was so so good.

I‘d love to see a doctor who breakdown! ( maybe a Sherlock one too to complete the trio?) But with that out of the way: I absolutely loved your retrospective videos !!💜💜 I really love watching these kind of videos when drawing, cleaning or just for fun. And honestly you changed my view on the show. Over the past few years I’ve kind of gotten more bitter over how bad some decision were, especially with female characters. But I feel like this awakened my nostalgia again and made me appreciate the overall arcs and positives more. I still won’t continue watching (I think I stopped after season 10?) but this was all I needed to see and then with analysis already?! Ugh, just thanks! Sry this has gotten so long but I just wanted to express my gratitude and wish you the best for your RU-vid Chanel and overall life 🫶🏻

I stopped watching around the beginning of season 14 and this video has convinced me to rewatch the entire series. I’m 6 episodes in and I’m actually enjoying myself a lot. Thanks. P.s. you should definitely do Doctor Who.

I think from all the stuff that's come out after the finale, Covid really fucked up the final season in what they could or couldn't do. I believe they wanted more people to be in the heaven scenes but couldn't because of filming regulations the production was under. Idk, that's what I've heard and read.

Thanks for doing this retrospective series! I think a cool video would be going over plot threads that were left open ended and/or resolved in a way that was clearly unintended (with a different show runner that didn't have the same vision)

I was introduced to Supernaturals by my wife last year so I saw it in a whole different way...somewhat straight through. I felt the lag of the middle 5 seasons, but thought the seasons 6-15 started to build a new momentum. The last 3 seasons were much improved and it really got good the farther it went.

I've been looking forward to this video for a while. I have a few things to say/type. 1. I thought the style of Season 5's title card was to represent Sam's struggle with his Demon Blood addiction. Sure Season 4 is when it 1st gets brought up, but he didn't really deal with being addicted to it, and such until Season 5. B. An angel leaving behind some of his/her grace has been mentioned in the show 2 times that I remember. The 1st time was in Season 5 Episode 3 when Castiel, and Dean went after Raphael. Then it was brought up again in Season 9 Episode 11 when Sam and Cas are trying to find a way to track down Gadreel.

great analysis

I'd like to see you cover an analysis for Dean, Sam, and Castiel's characters. And then a video about Destiel would also be interesting. There’s already videos about Destiel, of course, but it'd be interesting to hear your viewpoint.

Really great coverage my man. I'm a huge Supernatural fan myself. It's my 2nd favorite franchise just behind Star Wars. Been watching since season 2. Fell in love instantly and stayed on top of it ever since. Not too impressed with the Winchesters... it's too watered down and silly. That's about all I can say about it without getting too controversial. Anyway, love what you're doing my friend. Hope to see many more videos come from your channel. Can't wait to see what other types of ideas you have.

Just finished the first 3 yesterday, so this was right on time. Love your content!

40:35 The 15. season title card is the empty exploding! How could you miss that? They showed it when Jack was exploding. 56:24 Wasn't Lucifer said to be Gods favorite, not first born?

To me, the season 15 title card resembles the opening of the gates of hell (like in the episode Lilith was killed, her blood made a similar symbol on the ground, that became the gate of Lucifer).

Since I'm rewatching the whole series again I'm in season 12 and im not gonna lie, Im really really liking it.

I was recently in the hospital for like 2 weeks and rewatched almost the entire show while I was there. I started at 12-15 cuz I didn't know I was going to be in there as long as I was and those are the 1's I've rewatched the least some not at all. I was kinda surprised too how much I enjoyed them on a rewatch. On the original airing I feel like I didn't enjoy it as much but there's a lot of good episodes and arcs in there. I really love Jack, his character is very interesting to watch and I really felt for him. Watching him try to learn to control his powers that he doesn't understand with emotions that are confusing to him. Oh my heart. I also love what they did with Rowena. Her character development and arc was also really cool I felt like. Really enjoying these videos and it's cool that this last 1 is in a chunk I unintentionally watched in the same chunk lol 🧡🦇

Rewatching this video for the second time since RU-vid is lacking in some nicely edited Supernatural video reviews, but huge agree, you should cover Doctor Who especially with everything that's going down this year for the series

the idea of the box is just perfect as a metaphor for mental health and depression like its so good

This was really well done man. Congrats on finishing your series of reviews. I see now why you said we had very "different opinions" of these seasons. I can definitely see where you are coming from when it comes to unique and different ideas in these seasons. While I definitely feel they were alot better in concept than they were in execution, they tried ... they tried lol. I'll honestly never forgive the Gabrielle retcon. Great points about the retcon's from Carver era. I honestly can't remember those seasons at all so I'm interested what I will find when I start reviewing those next. Gabrielle's retcon was just ... so pointless to me. Because in the end, it ended the exact same way. It also unintentionally damages one of the best moments (and there are tons of them) from Season 5. At least we agree for the most part on S15. Unity was great, Despair was ... not so much to me. Either way, I really think this was a great video! Congrats again. I know I mentioned it when you featured some of my Kim Manner's video, but I was in London at the time and totally forgot to follow up. If you were ever up for a collab video / discussion, I would absolutely be up for it. Like my videos with Jade, having opposing but open minds always leads to a great conversation!

I wanna add to the 'reapers getting possessed by demons' thing. It is important to note that the only time we see this done is with a Prince of Hell. We see the princes overpowering angels all the time. Like Dagon vs Castiel. So Azazel possessing Tessa wasn't totally as outrageous. Also Crowley went into Sam that one time when he was possessed by Gadreel. Maybe I'm just covering for bad writing idk, but it makes sense to me.

56:19 the thing with purgatory is, sure there were ways to get to purgatory, but crowley and castiel were looking for a way that would allow them to take/absorb the souls there and not just get phisically there. It still works for me.

I myself like wise too you Jaythezoomster, share a personal love for this show....my Grandmother introduced me too this show, grew up watching these with her, here and there on cable television while new episodes aired. I still tear up almost every time when Castiel final scene plays.

This is my favorite show ever as well!!!! I guess I have no taste either, but what makes you love a show is the depth and what it really means, even tho the show it’s about all Supernatural events which I also love, is the love these two brothers have for each other❤️ I go to bed every night watching Supernatural. I’m lame but it gives me peace.

Can we all agree the Scoobynatural is the greatest episode in Supernatural.

I'm watching the entire series again and I'm in season 13. I'm liking it this time around. - really like Rowena now. - really liked the idea of Sam becoming a leader in season 12 but that was short lived. They should have played more around that, along with him using spells. - I like that Sam and Dean don't fight and are mostly close.

we were robbed of wayward sisters

I remember during 2020 stuck In the house due to Covid I decided to finally give this show a chance not knowing the show was ending that year sooo I binge watch all of it averaging a season a week but season 12 man idk what it was but it took me nearly 2 months to finish it imo it didn’t feel like anything I’ve watched wasn’t until the finale when I felt the vibe of the show again . Long story short I manage to catch up a day before the final episodes came out and it was a ride indeed 😞😞😞

Going into this video and I'm saying.... "Renaissance?! Really?!" These seasons were rough. Jack's inclusion was the biggest mistake they'd made and the rest of the series was less good for me as a result. There are moments of greatness, but ultimately the last few seasons were super inconsistent. I also hated the final season and the way Dean went out.

this is definitely the most frustrating era of the show for me. the writing in the final season is what ruins the show for me (and Supernatural itself is fantastic but the decisions the writers ended up making made no sense and it honestly really infuriates me to know that that was how they chose to honor the show during its final run). none of these final 4 seasons really feel like they do the show any justice… with how many times all of these episodes go from good to okay to bad in a matter of 2 or 3 episodes is just very messy. and Jack is a character that i absolutely adore but unfortunately he doesn’t save seasons 13-15… they tend to do so much yet so little at the same time…and despite Sam being my favorite character, Dean was such a lovable character and the writers did Jensen SO DIRTY by making him act totally out of character after season 12…imo the cast deserved better and so did the fans.

Idc what people say about supernatural because to me, it's the greatest series ever

It's so bizarre that I agree with every favorite episode but half of the worst you listed throughout all 15 seasons were on my favorite list as well

Regarding dean is a brilliant episode 💯 this episode really changed my perception of Rowena for me

I would love to see you rank every episode from worst to best. I wouldn't expect you to re-watch the series for that so you wouldn't have to go into extreme detail. You could alternatively rank every season from worst 2 best if the other idea is too time consuming or just too difficult to decide. I loved the retrospective series thank you!

Poomster making an appearance was not on my Season 12-15 Retrospective bucket list, but im glad it happened

Just speaking to how Michael left a piece of himself in dean, it has been stated before that an angel will leave traces in a hosts body and they have used it in the past to track angels such as the one who possessed sam after the trials

Man, I'd love to see any Supernatural content videos. We need a huge community like Star Wars has. There's definitely no shortage of content and creators for us viewers. I wish Supernatural was like that. For the longest time... right before a new season aired, I'd binge all the previous seasons to make sure I was back up to speed and everything was fresh in my mind again when the new season started. Well, it got to the point where I was learning Supernatural better than Star Wars and that's saying something since I've been a huge SW nerd since I was 11. Anyway, let's get some more content out there friend. I'll watch anything Supernatural related. Can't wait.✌

Yes please talk about Destiel. I'd love to hear a reasonable take, even if my own take is a wee bit skewed lol. It's been v easy to get caught by extreme (in BOTH ways) takes.

I really enjoyed watching your Supernatural Retrospective series! While I didn't always agree with everything that you were saying, it was definitely nice to hear another perspective. I gotta say tho', up until this particular video, I really hated seasons 12 through 14, but you managed to convince me that they weren't that bad, actually. I don't know how you do it, but something about how you explain things has me absolutely hooked. So I have an idea about your future videos. I always loved Lucifer, especially in season 5, and it always fascinated me how connected he and Sam really were, more than Dean and Michael could ever be. I'm still really sad how they just dropped all Lucifer's previous depth (like his reluctance to kill his own brothers; if you actually read the scripts for some of the episodes in season 5 with Lucifer in them, you can see he actually didn't want the Apocalypse to happen, as was finally established in ''Swan Song'', and even sympathized with the people that were sacrificed for the Horsemen in ''Abandon All Hope...") and completely ignored his bond with Sam, turning him into a goofball and a comedic relief character; his relationship with Sam was one of the things that interested me the most in the show. That being said, I would love to hear your perspective on Lucifer and Sam; what you liked and didn't like in how Lucifer was handled in later seasons and how you would've done it; maybe your thoughts on Hallucifer? Idk, just throwing ideas here as it's one topic (Lucifer) I don't see other Supernatural youtubers make videos about (which is sad). Also, I'm absolutely looking forward to your video(s?) about ''The Winchesters''!! ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

What I gather from this is that, for you anyway, the memory of _Memory Remains_ does not, in fact, remain

I think my biggest beef was how awful some elements of the finale seasons were after 11. Like, I was so surprised the Apocalypse angels would put Adam in a room with Mary that they could easily escape, like, the ONLY room he could escape. It seemed like a trick, and it wasn't, and I was absolutely devasted that the villains would be that stupid. Similarly, the show becomes all about the "dads" of the show raising their mini-god, while Chuck becomes a homicidal fanboy after a season where he was willing to "kill" himself or trap himself for eternity - its like, where's his love for creation he was weeping to Amara about? Lol.

Now let's hear your thoughts on The Winchesters, it's first season is almost done. Personally i'm loving it so far and it feels good to be getting new stories in the SPN universe with cool connections to the original series.

How is this for an episode idea: how would you have ENDED the show? Does GOD get a different ending? The boys? Lucifer? Anything at all... how would you have wanted to send off the characters??

Awesome work yo! It’s cool to continue to explore this series, (Chuck knows there’s enough to talk about), but ever thought about maybe delving into other series if a similar nature? Just something to think about. Carry on… ~_~

I'd like to see you rank all opening road so fars. The ones they sing in every first episode. I'd feel like I'll enjoy watching it just like the way I did with your title card ranking.

57:42 Angels do leave parts of them selves behind when they leave their vessel this is brought up in season 9 when gadrial was kicked out of Sam's body and that piece specifically containing grace and that there's a way to extract it And now another problem I have with this is that was completely forgotten about in season 14 when Jack is dying yes they find some archangel grace that belonged to Gabriel but it didn't work for some reason I don't know why but anyway back to what I was talking about when Michael leaves dean's body there should in theory have been some archangel grace still inside of Dean and we also know Jack takes Michael grace towards the end of the season and he's got his powers back so that they could of just extracted the leftover grace that Michael left behind when he first left dean's body

I love true blood the way you love supernatural, it’s so underrated and the overall theme of the show is just so beautiful, not only that but the cinematography is some of the best ever put to film. I love supernatural as well but I can’t find much value in the show after season 5 even tho I’ve watched it all multiple times lol

For me Supernatural is as follows. Seasons 1-5: Amazing TV, great seasonal storylines, some amazing episodes, stakes are real and believable Seasons 6-10: Still very strong TV. Seasonal arcs/villains are still pretty strong, but the stakes don't feel quite as real, but still really enjoyable Seasons 11-15: Very hit and miss with a few standout episodes, but Seasonal arcs are pretty weak, lousy send off for Crowley, stakes really don't feel real (I mean, seriously, the Boys vs. Actual God, or God's "sister" ?????). Frankly, not sure I would re-watch the last 5 seasons again if I watched the show again. Just my. 02 cents.

I really appreciate your videos especially as someone who got into spn late and finds it hard to get through it all and to sit through slow episodes/arcs I really don’t feel like I have a good grasp to be able to judge quality and especially to go by individual writers, it’s kinda shocking to me how many ppl in the fandom know the writers by name and remember or can just tell from the ep who wrote what. My thoughts on spn are biased for sure. Like you went through judging the intros by some kind of criteria and at the start without even remembering all the intros of the top of my head I was just like: s4 and s13 are best cos vibes and it’s the cas and jack intros and they’re the best characters lol. In the same way I never tried to find a justification for why I like later seasons but can’t sit through the middle seasons, outside of that I just love jack that much ig. But you actually made good points. I’m definitely curious what you think of the Winchesters, especially in the light of the latest ep and where it might go further from there. Outside of that I think it’s weird to give you suggestions since it’s things I’m interested in and idk If you have much to say about it to be worth making a video but cas and jack are my faves and so obvs I’d love a video about them. Maybe a video about the whole larger family dynamic and drama starting with john and mary (or even the grandparents) and ending with jack? So a video about the themes throughout the seasons maybe? Also I’m kinda surprised you’d specifically suggest a whole destiel video, by myself I’d never suggest it cos the topic’s controversial and I wouldn’t think ppl who don’t ship it have a lot to say about it but if you have an idea for a video then ig go for it. Unless you do decide to make a whole long-ass video on all the family dynamics and then it’d just be a part of it?

I actually like sam and dean and cas as parents

dude, your spn retrospectives give me LIFE. i'd love to hear your full thoughts on jack and the whole status quo change he brought! he's been my absolute favorite since his introduction, but i never really see any attention being given to his actual character despite it being absolutely beloved by the fandom. majority of the time he's just reduced to the precious cinnamon roll baby, which honestly does such a disservice to how genuinely interesting/compelling he is. im sure you'd have plenty to say. love the channel!! have a good one

Also, if there is one topic I'd be interested in seeing you talk about more in depth, go with John Winchester. Full character analysis. Have fun!

I love watching these videos, but for me it's all fan fiction after season 5 😂

Please do Doctor Who!!!! Like a retrospective on RTD Seasons 1-4, Moffat Seasons 5-7, Moffat Seasons 8-10, Chibnall Seasons 11-13. Or any other way you want.

I honestly really like the 12-15 seasons run, specifically for all the character moments and the introduction of Jack, Rowena's Redemption, the Wayward sisters, etc. It was nice to see someone defend the good parts of this era! Yeah it wasn't perfect but girl its a CW show, ya know? We have to remember no matter what SPN is still better than Riverdale.

I think 15s issue was covid. I think if that didn't interfere with production, it would've turned out better

I personally don’t hate Mary, she died for 33 years and came back to life to find everything she ever wanted gone to hell and never coming back, her husband’s dead, her kids were hunters and the normal life she wanted was gone, along with needing to adjust to a world that moved on without her and getting used to the modern era and all the new things that happened or were made since she died. Even her working for the BMoL isn’t that bad, since Sam was working with them too, so why are people blaming Mary and saying she’s a bad person if Sam’s doing the same thing, and he was the one tortured? Sam and Dean really needed to understand that Mary isn’t the perfect mom or person they thought she was, she’s human and makes mistakes, but they’ve made bigger, nearly world ending mistakes, and they get angry she’s working with the Brits? They’ve worked with demons and Lucifer himself, literally as recent as the previous season Edit: I understand wanting more in season 15, but COVID happened and they couldn’t do their original ending, they wanted to bring everyone who died back to the Roadhouse in Heaven, but they couldn’t because of quarantine and just how hard it would have been with the restrictions of COVID, which is understandable

After season 5 the show never reaches the same heights. Its no masterpiece but it is pure fun. I see it as beautiful fanfiction and im glad it exists. Also mick is an amazing character

Everyone when they think of SP: CARRY ON MY WAYWARD SOOOON Me: HEEEEAT OF THE MOMENT! 😂😂😂

I thought of this midway through your video before you said you were open to video suggestions, but I think it could be interesting to do a video or video series on various concepts for spin-offs or one-off movies inside of the Supernatural universe. When you were talking about the president stuff I was intrigued by the idea of how politics could be affected by the existence of, you know, everything the main universe's governments don't seem to be aware of. The Supernatural universe barely weighs into that at all, but the Supernatural version has this cool feature where almost every alternative mechanic could be made canon because of the alternate universe thing. A spin-off idea for Supernatural could be a more mature and more nuanced political drama of sorts exploring how politics would be affected (and maybe shaped) by the existence various Supernatural concepts. I'd imagine a show more like Suits or House of Cards where the internal politics between different beings and/or realms are shown as well as something in the original style that shows how society would be shaped by it. I suspect governments would try to establish some sort of special Supernatural status in the eyes of the public, as well as in the eyes of the various beings / realms, and it'd be very interesting to see how such a dynamic would form. The way to bridge the political aspect with the gritty realistic aspect would be with some sort of diplomatic Angel designated to Earth and having him talk to the various presidents and powerful parties of the world, as well as unbeknownst to those entities answering prayers of people living in the worst parts of the way the world has become. It could be cool to see him be regarded as a far superior authority by the world's political leaders and/or the public at first but have him slowly become more of an equal to them and eventually become even less because he doesn't have any explicitly defined legal authority over anything and various dealings are already being made over his head. Maybe he could actually start to get in trouble for secretly answering civilian prayers. Could also be cool to see how demons and by extension the authoritarian regime of Hell (maybe secretly) gain more political capital and status than Angels because they don't need permission to do shit, both possession-wise and philosophy-wise. I feel that good should be present on the side of Hell and bad should be present at the side of Heaven to make it more realistic, not necessarily as characters but as different aspects of their different natures. I really like the idea of morally strong and genuinely trustworthy Angels, but that philosophy wouldn't necessarily work in their favor politically speaking. It'd also be cool to see how technology advances too, but I've already gone way too deep as is. This is just one idea but you could do an entire series exploring alternate universes of Supernatural like this. It's unique content for sure.

I would love if you talk about the winchesters

I saw the whole show. I’d watch it constantly. I cannot recall episodes or episode names.

@40:45 I thought the title card for S15 was trying to do something with the Empty? Like how we see Terminator Lucifer and he’s all black and red & this is kind of like a void.