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The Surprising TRUTH about Touring | Corey Congilio | Tim Pierce 

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Corey Congilio stopped by and played some beautiful Guitar.
In our conversation, we pull the curtain wide open on what it’s like to go on the road as a sideman!
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@aquagreen73s5
@aquagreen73s5 4 года назад
21 year commercial airline pilot here. I identify with so much of what you guys are saying. People look at my job and think it's a nonstop vacation. Well, it is - at first. But after some time it morphs from being something like a nonstop vacation to a, I'm-not-at-home life. I still love what I do but it's only when I'm actually in the cockpit that I'm back to being the young me from 21 years ago. Everything else just wears on you. Hotels can be nice but it's not home. I have time to myself om a layover but it just isn't like having my own time in my own home. Kudos to you, Tim, for making the decision you did at such a young age.
@tomdecuca3627
@tomdecuca3627 2 года назад
I don't know - landing a 747 full of people, would scare me!!! Hats off to you!!
@napesdrk1174
@napesdrk1174 Год назад
At 1st I thought I read , 21 year old commercial pilot....I was like, not me on that jet....
@dbpnz
@dbpnz 6 месяцев назад
My old guitar teacher used to be a side-man, did a few world tours in his day. He once told me “the thing about getting your dream job is, eventually you find out it’s still a job”
@ericruddphotography
@ericruddphotography 5 лет назад
As the bass player in my band said once as we were loading out after a gig... "The music we play for free. It's the schlepping of gear and road life that we get paid for."
@TheSeanpatrickobrien
@TheSeanpatrickobrien 4 года назад
Man what's the big deal about carrying your shit in and out of the gig? Wimps 🙄
@james1stful
@james1stful 4 года назад
@@TheSeanpatrickobrien Not all of us play the flute like you .
@JamesEPowell
@JamesEPowell 4 года назад
@@TheSeanpatrickobrien Said every lead singer in the history of rock n roll
@michaelgranka7904
@michaelgranka7904 4 года назад
Load in was easy compared to load out at 3:00 am. Lol
@dkerwood1
@dkerwood1 4 года назад
A buddy of mine needed a bassist for his blues and country band. I didn't really want to play, but finally agreed with the following conditions: I get paid $100 minimum every gig (if I'm leaving my wife alone for the night, then I'm bringing back cash), I want as few rehearsals as possible (we had five hours of material, so you just had to learn your parts), and I don't carry any gear besides my own- specifically no PA gear (this was mostly due to a back injury I had sustained right before). I still usually stuck around and wrapped mic cables, but that's about it.
@tybrady64
@tybrady64 4 года назад
If you want to make money in music, you better be an amazing song writer. Great musicians are everywhere.
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
@Ariel Falk Nonsense. Doing the RU-vid and social media thing means you no longer have to sell your songs to others to earn a living these days. The only thing that's changed in the last 20 years is that you can't make money by selling albums anymore. All the other avenues are still available, and social media has presented many new ones.
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
@@ndtealmusic Yeah, but he said "music", so he's not talking about modern pop.
@don4476
@don4476 4 года назад
True words. Especially with youtube. 10 year olds now have more music education than I got in college. And they can play like crazy.
@thebarf9235
@thebarf9235 4 года назад
@@davecarsley8773 But sadly very few of these RU-vidrs are writing good songs. Hell, NO ONE writes good songs anymore.
@everychannel1025
@everychannel1025 3 года назад
@@thebarf9235 Just wait
@lancelotlink6545
@lancelotlink6545 5 лет назад
What Tim is describing about touring is true for anyone who has to travel for work. It feels like there is no end to your workday even when you are on the plane or back at the hotel because really you're just waiting to get back to your real life.
@tjbroscoff7276
@tjbroscoff7276 4 года назад
You'll never get me off the road. Its home to me. Just got done doing a 2 week run in the Northeast literally tonight. Give me 2 days rest I'll be ready to go again.
@waynemiller6070
@waynemiller6070 5 лет назад
I've never been "big time" but my best road gig was playing a hotel bar for a couple of weeks. We could "sneak in" to the pool after hours. But we were right across the street from a hobby store, where I bought an EZ to build R/C airplane, built it in the hotel room the first week and got with the instructor of the local R/C flying club the next week and learned how "not to crash". The reason that was the best gig is that I'm still flying model airplanes 25 years later.
@joemama-zn6lu
@joemama-zn6lu 5 лет назад
Sounds like when skid row found model trains. It even helped them stop drinking during the day time.
@OMGWTFLOLSMH
@OMGWTFLOLSMH 4 года назад
@@joemama-zn6lu - Rod Stewart is HUGE on model trains. The attic of his LA home is one giant train diorama. Same with Neil Young and Jools Holland.
@jameslane9537
@jameslane9537 4 года назад
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Randy Rhoads was into model trains, as well.
@TheSolfilm
@TheSolfilm 4 года назад
@@tomcoryell Here they were ! Close your eyes and they'll be supermen.
@anthonyrussell9706
@anthonyrussell9706 4 года назад
@@tomcoryell Saw Skid Row open for G'N'R at the Forum back in the early 90's. Great show from both bands.
@briankimmell7960
@briankimmell7960 4 года назад
I wish we had the internet and iPads when I was first learning. I can't believe the wealth of information available through these devices. Thanks for being there now for all of us. 🤗
@mudwiser1391
@mudwiser1391 5 лет назад
A tip of the hat to the editor of this video, nice transitions between the talk and the playing. Really nicely done.
@No1Particular
@No1Particular 5 лет назад
Ok, I can rest now. This was going to be my comment as well haha
@Bigmike3406E
@Bigmike3406E 5 лет назад
Because of you Tim and Pete Thorn and PhilX I have become a very confident player and I thank all of you for sharing tips experiences and your professionalism with all of us out here.
@jakemitchell1671
@jakemitchell1671 5 лет назад
I was blessed enough in the '80s to make a good living playing music on the road, both in a band and as a hired gun. The most insightful thing said in this video - IMO - is that touring can be a rigorous physical challenge. I would NOT believe it had I not experienced it. I mean, play guitar at night, go to bed at 2am, wake up at 10am, have a pretty leisurely day by most standards - but get physically exhausted? Yep, absolutely. I can only think it has something to do with the nerves, adrenaline, and subtle crash that follows most shows. It will wear you down.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 5 лет назад
I think it's the inconsistent sleep schedule. the crazy hours and also not sleeping in your own bed, using your own bathroom. But most of all, eating like crap all the time because it's hard to eat healthy and cheap on the road. If you like to work out, that's a pain in the ass too. So then you feel crappy because you didn't exercise. Sitting in a vehicle for hours at a time. All those things take a major toll on the body. And since there were 8 of us, that really cuts into the income. Obviously I'm not talking about touring on the same level so far fewer comforts. After 5 years I was done. Mostly a great experience though. Incredible memories. : )
@jakemitchell1671
@jakemitchell1671 5 лет назад
@@coppulor6500 Those are very good points. I agree with every one.
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 5 лет назад
@@jakemitchell1671 at first I was just going to reply with the food and crazy sleep schedule issues but then as I started writing I started remembering all the other things that really affected my body and mind. Totally worth it..... For a while. But once you grow to a point and then can't get to the next level cuz you're too young and ignorant to understand how the industry REALLY works and dont have those connections, then the bad eventually starts outweighing the good. At least for me it did.
@jakemitchell1671
@jakemitchell1671 5 лет назад
@@coppulor6500 Yeah, for sure. It was very simple for me: I hated being away from home, especially after I met the girl who became my wife. She traveled with until she started grad school, and then I became miserable. I don't sleep well anywhere but home where I can control the light and sounds (no light, lots of sounds like fans and AC window units), and suddenly I was on the road with a bunch of single guys picking up chicks and I had no interest anymore. And that whole band culture doesn't work when you're an odd man out, especially sharing motel rooms! About the time it got really crappy I got a great invite to do session work at a small but growing project studio where my finance had moved. It wasn't enough to support a family, but it allowed me to go back to school, and then I played locally in a successful "party" band. From that point the road had ZERO attraction for me, even as 2 of my buddies scored great gigs with performers you've probably heard of. But i was never jealous. And now I'm a 52 year old IT pro with 3 adult kids, and the road seems a million miles away. Like you say, just a million great memories!
@coppulor6500
@coppulor6500 5 лет назад
@@jakemitchell1671 Dude, so damned funny. Same story here except without the session work. got to the point where living on the road was messing up my gut (a few other band mates too). That lifestyle is brutal if you're not a party animal. And when chicks come up to you and point blank as if you want to have sex - at first you're like "sweet!" and then you think about it for a minute and you're like "hmmm.....how many times has she done this and how many skanky musicians has she f**ked and do I really want an STD?" LOL. you think it's gonna be great but once that happens, the other part of your brain kicks in and .......not what it's cracked up to be. sure, it's nice that everyone wants to buy/give you stuff and wants your autograph and the adulation etc. but I would never trade my sugar lumps of delight and the kids for that life again. so very glad I was fortunate enough to experience it. Our sax player got a masters in music performance and teaches now (absolute badass latin jazz player), our drummer still tours with a national act, but everyone else eventually joined the "normal life". I'm 51 - code certified master inspector with a real estate license and I love my life (even if I want to strangle the kids every once in a while lol ). what's frustrating is that sweet cheeks can sing her ass off and my daughter is learning piano (on her own) and can also sing but nobody wants to do any a cappella stuff for fun or play together. sigh........ I WAS jealous of meh bands that got signed and made big bucks for a time and once I figured out talent and effort does not equal success in music (rarely anyway - all about connections) but I would probably have not met my biscuit and I'm happy as a clam now : )
@SameDayTwice
@SameDayTwice 5 лет назад
Such a key factor in success is staying humble and always striving to be better. In spite of Corey’s very obvious success, you can see him really stepping back and actively listening to Tim about how to step off stage and into the studio. He’s not thinking about how he looks like the coolest guy in the room, instead choosing to soak up all the knowledge and wisdom he can, wherever he is, so that he can be his best self. That’s really inspiring to see.
@teye-master
@teye-master 9 месяцев назад
Altho a sideman in a country/rock group, I played Flamenco guitar, which can easily be done by yourself. I started using my free time on tour to embark on a rigorous practice routine and became a better guitarist. In the band, I WAS the weird one out but the reward was substantial and it all really paid off when I branched out on my own. Tim I am getting addicted to your videos, hats off to you for both your insights and your playing!
@activemelody
@activemelody 5 лет назад
Great video Tim! I like the split screen view when chatting like this!
@RhettShull
@RhettShull 5 лет назад
Amazing video guys, you both articulated so many truths about life on the road very well. Also the playing was insane, Corey you’re a MONSTER.
@timpierceguitar
@timpierceguitar 5 лет назад
Rhett , Thanks! Your channel might be the ultimate window into the touring world...I almost grabbed an excerpt from one of your videos...
@MTW1340
@MTW1340 5 лет назад
I stumbled on Rick Beato's site which led me to your site and your touring / earning video and then to Tim's and then to Corey's. I toured back in the late 70's, early 80's playing bass. Just picked up guitar a few years ago when I retired and you guys got me so frickin happy to be learning and sharing all this with my grandkids. Thank you for taking the time to put your channel up!
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
Rhett, thank you for using the correct version of "you're". This is why you're a successful man who is bound for greatness.
@miguelcrianca
@miguelcrianca 4 года назад
You're not kidding - Corey is such a great player with amazing feel (same applies to Tim, but we already knew that). I think there is a thing or two (or 30) that I could learn from just this little jam they had. Thank you guys for the great video!
@tbshaw2157
@tbshaw2157 5 лет назад
OK Tim, here's one for you... Do you remember a little guitar shop in ABQ at Carlisle and Constitution, called the Music Factory? I was a partner in that short-lived venture with Steve Maase, Brian, Mikey Wright, etc. We built a guitar for you way back in the 80s, and man we thought you hung the moon (still do, actually) when you scored the Springfield gig. That was right about the time Randy Castillo was touring with Ozzy. TWO Albuquerque boys makin' it big! The only thing one needs to know about your choice is: Randy died from just what you were talking about. The road killed him, but you escaped, good on you bro. Lots of good folks are damaged by the music biz, but you took a sustainable path, carved your own niche in the digital and recording world, and are STILL AND FOREVER one of the baddest gunslingers around. Congrats on an amazing career so far, you are a legend, man. We don't get many of those in this little town in the desert! I am proud to have played a part, minuscule though it was. It was great to see a guitar I tightened a few screws on (I forget, maybe Steve let me dust it off? :)) being played on videos like Jesse's Girl. Anyway, sorry to ramble. Thanks for the memories and keep 'em coming!
@guitarmeetsscience
@guitarmeetsscience 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing that TB - Randy was a cool guy and quite the showman on the kit.
@scotabot7826
@scotabot7826 4 года назад
The pure joy in Tim's face, and his playing, keep me coming back for more and more!! Beautiful Man!
@davidwagner13
@davidwagner13 5 лет назад
Hey Tim. You seem like such a nice guy--very down to earth and humble for such a talented musician.
@magicdudegary
@magicdudegary 4 года назад
So glad that Corey brought up spinning a lot of plates. As a multi instrumentalist I feel like I’m average on all the instruments I play. But being able to do that is why I always get called to do this or that gig. I did a five month tour and the only thing keeping me going was exploring new parts of the country I had never been to. I’m about to be 32 and now that I have kids my desire to play music “for a living” is dwindling fast. In southwest Florida the money just isn’t there to support a lifestyle above lower middle class. I’m ready to be a musician for myself and for fun and not as a “service” to all the old retired people that fill up this area. If there was a thriving scene in my age group I know I’d feel differently, but you can’t escape the fact that everything down here is catered to the retirees. Rant over :)
@richardplambeck285
@richardplambeck285 4 года назад
Tim, thank you for running this piece. In the 80's one of my best friends got what I thought was a dream opportunity to play lead on tour with Bobby Bare for two years. He came home never talked about it and spent the rest of his life doing luthiery and playing in bar bands. I never got it... now I do.
@Gretsch0997
@Gretsch0997 5 лет назад
Man , this hit the nail on the head for me. Playing live tours is great “when playing”....other than that it secludes you from family ,friends and personal growth
@jsyarto04
@jsyarto04 4 года назад
So does working a 9 to 5 day job where you have to commute and deal with life on life's terms. At least on tour you have a purpose which is playing your instrument every night for people who are receptive to it. Probably more receptive than a bar gig. How about the poor souls that have to work a day job, support their family and be there as a father and a husband as well as play gigs on the weekend. Just working a day job is enough to affect your personal growth. Try working in a factory with all different types of people from all different types of backgrounds who dont give a shit that you play an instrument. Talk about feeling secluded.
@Gretsch0997
@Gretsch0997 4 года назад
Well, I lived it for 10 years. Sounds like you haven’t. I appreciated your side though.
@arottie4097
@arottie4097 5 лет назад
Chasing around a headliner on the road. There is NO GREAT PAY to be had! Van full of band mates.Hopefully one guy on the road with you helping out. Endless hours upon hours driving/riding each day. Stinking dirty laundry pulling up!! Pulling a trailer slap full of your gear & dirty laundry! Ha! Eating good. Haha! Simply Not possible! & a whole lot of "HURRY UP & WAIT!!! Mr Congilio & Mr Pierce are describing the the truth about touring being on the top of the touring food chain!! NOT the reality of the vast majority of touring guitar players!!! Still thank you Mr Pierce another awesome video! Love hearing you guys trading solos.
@Morningstar_Actual
@Morningstar_Actual 5 лет назад
It really depends on the tour man. Most of the time though, this is true
@ScutMonkey
@ScutMonkey 5 лет назад
It seems Corey acknowledges the poor pay when he talks about the "spinning plates" a current guitarist has to keep moving.
@clevelandbrown5709
@clevelandbrown5709 5 лет назад
Me and my bass player used to joke about that on tour. That's what a being a touring musician is - HURRY HURRY HURRY! Okay now wait 8 hours. HURRY HURRY!!
@jimmuller
@jimmuller 5 лет назад
It can't pay that much when there are all kinds of guys looking to take your place. G E Smith said the only good money earner for a guitar player is to have your name on songs.
@claytonstringman596
@claytonstringman596 4 года назад
So true. Toured with Corey Congilio. Great guy and great player. For me, its all about having a good routine on the road and that can be difficult when you're traveling.
@JasonLeonPike
@JasonLeonPike 5 лет назад
Cool video! Great conversation and the cuts between talk and playing is genius.
@kaislivesoundchannel4706
@kaislivesoundchannel4706 3 года назад
Just don‘t forget, the way you two tour is still a blessed way to tour, others have to set up and tear down their equipment every day.
@attiliodagresti9487
@attiliodagresti9487 5 лет назад
Thanks Tim and Corey for this beautiful interview ! Rock on !
@rumbletruck1
@rumbletruck1 4 года назад
While I enjoy almost all of your content, this was my favorite episode to date. Watching you two riff off of one another was fantastic! 👍🏻👍🏻
@michaeleaster1815
@michaeleaster1815 5 лет назад
I really enjoyed the conversation and the playing is just sublime, man.... thanks!
@MichaelGrecoGuitar
@MichaelGrecoGuitar 5 лет назад
Sick! Very cool info. I can totally relate. I was touring on cruise ships for a number of years. I loved playing and traveling, but after awhile I just wanted to be grounded. Now I release my own music, teach, and play in bands locally. I am much happier. Thanks for the awesome video. Cheers from Philly!
@RiffsAndBeards
@RiffsAndBeards 5 лет назад
Touring is really just driving great distances to get a Wi-Fi password.
@racerevlon
@racerevlon 5 лет назад
#church
@Livelaughlimpbizkit
@Livelaughlimpbizkit 5 лет назад
Riffs, Beards & Gear 100%
@CoverBandConfidential
@CoverBandConfidential 4 года назад
Oh look at Mr. Fancy with his wifi. We didn't have smart phones when I started touring! [getting back on his porch]
@gregadkins9709
@gregadkins9709 4 года назад
Cover Band Confidential
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
Best comment ever.
@brianq2174
@brianq2174 5 лет назад
Love the way you edited the video with the guitar playing interludes during the conversation. Really enjoyed the video... Cheers!
@SoCalVipers
@SoCalVipers 4 года назад
Speaking of keeping your chops up... About a year ago I was working with a band who opened for Diamond Rio. When we arrived that the Venue, Jimmy Olander still had had his guitar strapped on his body for their sound check and kept it on the whole day. He never stopped playing. He may have taken it off to use the restroom, but that's it. As you can imagine, his performance was AMAZING.
@pitchforker3304
@pitchforker3304 4 года назад
I loved playing in a local band in the 90s, and seeing other friends' bands, it was a great scene. First "big" regional tour, within days I knew the road life wasn't for me. I totally get this video! Of course, Tim and Corey are both light years beyond me as a musician...
@EmilioConesa
@EmilioConesa 5 лет назад
I’ve been touring for 30+ years ... this week I decided to leave my gig guitar home and rely on the backline Strat and just a HX Stomp. It was just fine. Nice to lighten the load while traveling.
@johnbarber3499
@johnbarber3499 4 года назад
Amazing Tim, I've always felt that the life of a professional Guitarist is a very tough and hard life, and for what you do the pay usually doesn't reflect the hours of study and practicing, even for some of these hired guns out there. You are the professional, go anywhere and play anything, I just wanted to be as good as I could get, and some where along the line I got lost and didn't push myself, just kept playing SOS. I still have a lot of friends in the business and its really tough for them to make any money with this Covid thing going on, and as the years go by your phone stops ringing. I think you've done the right thing, with your RU-vid channel, and it must be very gratifying and up lifting to help so many young players. Always enjoy your videos, and learn so much, thank you.
@DBSG1976
@DBSG1976 5 лет назад
Fascinating story, I love your channel because session guitarist as a gig is such an interesting career path.
@dennismorgan2230
@dennismorgan2230 4 года назад
My friend Andy tours with Heart and he loves it. Granted,he’s not twenty and just starting out. He’s pretty established in the music community and has work when he’s not with Heart.
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 5 лет назад
Ha! "Even at the lowest level..." We played a hotel gig in Mexicali once and half the town came by our rooms to party with us - all week long! Insane...
@randmace1101
@randmace1101 5 лет назад
Sean Fullerton - Funny ..in the late 60’s while in high school - on the weekends we’d go across the border and play in the Mexicali bars... saw more in those bars a young kid shouldn’t have seen 🙄
@seanemmettfullerton
@seanemmettfullerton 5 лет назад
LOL... yep, look but don't touch :)
@jeffeager
@jeffeager 5 лет назад
Really enjoyed this conversation, boys, thank you!
@whyyesca
@whyyesca 5 лет назад
Wow man. I don't know about all that. Just so happy I am touring now. Sorry to hear it was hard for you. I do really, really well on the road. I am able to mix and create beats on the road like I never could when home. Making 3 time more than my backyd studio at home. No distractions you know...? Not for everyone I gues, but I just thank God for getting traction to tour regularly.
@timpierceguitar
@timpierceguitar 5 лет назад
Great comment! I wanted to get studio calls, it was a different era. Glad you are thriving !
@gibhopkins6919
@gibhopkins6919 5 лет назад
My road dog days are over wheelchair slows that Down studio in basement still writing every now and then i still get out love your content
@4dmind
@4dmind 4 года назад
I can relate. I was on the road by 19, and I lasted about 4 months. Leaving the clubs on a gig night at 3am, getting back to a crappy motel, band entertaining locals for another 2 hours...yeah, not fun. My favorite time of day was the afternoons/early evenings before the gig - it feels like you're on vacation every day.
@jonplatz2929
@jonplatz2929 4 года назад
That was great. I’m still glad I bailed on being in a band and lowest level touring and did the family thing instead. I would have missed so much and played the same parts every day.
@ironmansound1
@ironmansound1 5 лет назад
Thanks Tim, not a lot of people understand how this business works..
@CarlyonProduction
@CarlyonProduction 2 года назад
The original McCarty has such a lovely twang in this video! Great display of the differences between the original and the 594. Both sound great.
@AJGreen-cn8kk
@AJGreen-cn8kk 2 года назад
I remember Doc Severinsen saying he spent 8 hours a day, every day with his horn on his lips! I can only imagine how long you guys spend with your instrument to be as good as you are. We amateurs can only wish we had your dedication.
@isaiahgonzales6193
@isaiahgonzales6193 5 лет назад
This younger guys tone is out of this world!
@RJRonquillo
@RJRonquillo 5 лет назад
Great interview guys! I'm gonna steal those intro licks too!
@IFY0USEEKAY
@IFY0USEEKAY 5 лет назад
Lol, me too ! Glad youtube has 1/2 speed playback ...
@frederickthorne2496
@frederickthorne2496 5 лет назад
speaking of touring tho - I really enjoy(ed) your touring vlogs, R.J.
@jadipeperzak4034
@jadipeperzak4034 5 лет назад
Frederick Thorne Absolutely
@stevewebertampainvestments2097
@stevewebertampainvestments2097 4 года назад
It's ok because all of us are stealing your licks all the time RJ! Well, I am trying to but some are not so easily stolen :D
@brunoCondor
@brunoCondor 5 лет назад
Two of my most favorite artists and top teachers together in one video ! Thanks for everything guys ! Greets from Belgium.
@jt95124
@jt95124 5 лет назад
I played in local bands and knew several people who had toured and one who turned down playing bass for nine inch nails. He wasn't supposed to say how much, but he expressed surprise at how little it was. The bass player in my band quit to tour with a minor blues star. They would fly him across the country, put him up with a roomate at a cheap motel, eat at Denny's, and got $150/show. He did quit the day job, but only for a year.
@waynemiller6070
@waynemiller6070 5 лет назад
Both have great tones, great licks. Nice interview. Enjoyed the vid.
@MrJamberee
@MrJamberee 5 лет назад
Yes, it was very interesting.
@MostlyEarTraining
@MostlyEarTraining 5 лет назад
totally feel you man, even as a youngster I never dreamed of being an on the road rock n roll star, for me the dream has always been to be in a studio working on music.
@wasichu66
@wasichu66 5 лет назад
Exquisite as always. After following you for so long, it just clicked, you look like the happy version of Robin Williams.
@golfjunki
@golfjunki 4 года назад
Playing music is a lot of moving boxes. When I was doing it, I lived on local golf courses during the day. Kept me outta trouble. Mostly...
@desr6991
@desr6991 4 года назад
I,d just graduated in 1987 and was also playing with club bands,and a lot of the guys we were supporting were saying exactly the same things as this video....you spend a lot of your time,waiting,standing around,sitting on buses,sleeping on buses,sleeping in cars,sharing hotel rooms and unless your the star of the show,or happen to win the lottery and are in led zeppelin,queen,etc ...your a self employed gun for hire,making a living,gigging, bit of tuition and there is a world of difference between musicians who can write lyrics and music successfully ......and those who cant
@pavanatanaya
@pavanatanaya 5 лет назад
Nigel Tufnell and David St. Hubbins talk shop
@jameswagner5098
@jameswagner5098 4 года назад
I played 3-4 nights a week locally for 7 years and was happy when it was over! I quit when my first child was born and honestly never looked back. In the beginning you can’t believe you’re getting paid to sing and play, and after a while... it’s just another job. I worked a full time day job, and played at one point without a weekend off for 14 months....I was done after that.
@Texasbluesalley
@Texasbluesalley 5 лет назад
Great video, fantastically practical.
@67foxcharlie
@67foxcharlie 5 лет назад
From a fan’s perspective this is fascinating. No wonder why so many have become burned out and lost. It’s amazing to me that a few bands have toured for years and survived.
@Phuckinehring
@Phuckinehring 5 лет назад
Thank you for the insightful and informative video. Your stuff is always such a pleasure to watch, thanks for sharing your perspective as it is truly unique. You seem to be very humble and grounded, quite rare for someone as talented and experienced as yourself. Corey is incredible, seeing the 2 of you play together is immensely inspiring and amazing ear candy.
@TheMisterMonkeyman
@TheMisterMonkeyman 5 лет назад
As always, an interesting video. My main experience on the road was during the late 80's and through the 90's. Mostly "lower end" tours in vans pulling a trailer full of gear and merch, taking turns sleeping in the beds of one of the 2 crappy motel rooms the 6 of us would share, with someone sleeping in the trailer on top of the amps to make sure no-one steals your stuff in the middle of Indiana (or wherever). Occasionally I got a tiny bunk in a smelly bus. I usually got better amenities when I went out as a hired gun (bigger per diems, an actual hotel/motel room, better food, etc). Finding a productive way to kill time was always a challenge. I usually would try to find small record shops to look for odd records, or thrift stores to find cool vintage (used) clothes. Depended on how much the per diem was. Eating was the worst, at least in the States. In Europe, especially at festivals, there was almost always a vegetarian option on the menu, but here it was "what can I grab at the gas station/rest stop", or what we could get on the rider. Still, I have a s-ton of great stories, had great/crazy experiences, and met some of the best people ever. Peace.
@hearpalhere
@hearpalhere 4 года назад
Awesome to see you and Corey playing together! I have only discovered him relatively recently but he seems like such a nice guy. Great tip on the book, "Your Money Or Your Life"! I cannot recommend it highly enough for everyone to start appreciating what is truly important to them in life. Awesome to hear that Corey's diet is plant based too! I've been vegan for over 4 years now and can honestly say it's the best thing I've ever done for my health and well being. Looking after ourselves is one of the best things we can do for a long and productive career and happy life with our loved ones too.
@ColtonBeasleyMusic
@ColtonBeasleyMusic 2 года назад
Tim, had no idea you worked on You'll Be In My Heart! I sang and played You'll Be In My Heart for a wedding a year back and doing it justice with all the instrumentation was an amazingly fun challenge! Excellent video. Thanks for teaching and doing what you do. I'll keep watching and try to keep up! 😜🤘
@MTW1340
@MTW1340 5 лет назад
Was a touring bass player back in the day and after stumbling onto Rick's site, then Rhett and now to Corey's I'm having a blast getting serious with the guitar now, (something I always wanted to do). Thank you for what all you guys are doing for both us retired duffs and the noobs coming up.
@timpierceguitar
@timpierceguitar 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for the nice comment
@pneumatic00
@pneumatic00 4 года назад
Many true words spoken here. Whatever you think you're making on the road, you're actually going backwards once you're back at home, because all the connections you think you've made have drifted away.
@barkomulch
@barkomulch 5 лет назад
Tim - Exceptional, informative and really fun - as always!
@dannyhayden1170
@dannyhayden1170 5 лет назад
Although I know you love all Rick's guitarists, you are the best guitarist he ever had. I watch his old shows to see your work and you are amazing. I wish Sahara Snow had worked out!
@mikeaustin4138
@mikeaustin4138 4 года назад
As Ringo(?) said in "A Hard Day's Night," I've been in a car and a train, a car and a plane, a plane and a train..." (I'm paraphrasing)
@Pimp-Master
@Pimp-Master 4 года назад
Grandfather's lines...
@jrafko
@jrafko 5 лет назад
Tim you always look like you are having so much while you are playing and I always forget how much I enjoy your channel. Your skills are light years ahead of mine. Keep rocking Tim!
@Cajundaddydave
@Cajundaddydave 5 лет назад
Thanks for another great perspective from guys who have lived it. Playing live when the band is relaxed and grooving, and the audience is totally with you is intoxicating. That is why so many musicians continue to do it and tolerate all... the... waiting....... around......... Cheers!
@MrAOdom1966
@MrAOdom1966 Год назад
Corey .. that guitar! I hope you have a contest making that beautiful instrument available
@niletrain
@niletrain 3 года назад
I love this channel, Tims a genuined guy talking about things that actually matter as aspiring professional musicians. 🙏
@majorvice3309
@majorvice3309 5 лет назад
Hi Tim. I'm an Avid "local rocker", music/movie/soundtrack buff/lover and concert goer. My real job is Anesthesia. Your videos on lessons and experiences are invaluable. I could go on...but will just say THANKS!
@kevinsavo3650
@kevinsavo3650 5 лет назад
Tim, I resonate with you on this big time. Thanks!
@GreatbarrierislandtourismCoNz
@GreatbarrierislandtourismCoNz 5 лет назад
Two of the best right there! Guys and guitarists... such a privilage to get this close to a conversation between such great maestros.
@periloustemple8290
@periloustemple8290 4 года назад
About boundaries: Tim, you have succeeded building a music lab that is also visually such a boundary - a fortress of delicious tonefulness (I hear Greg Koch's voice saying those words for me!). Great episode. Very revealing.
@fumeokid
@fumeokid 5 лет назад
This is one of the most informative and entertaining channels on RU-vid. Thanks for your hard work! It is very much appreciated. 👌
@terryeaster1
@terryeaster1 8 месяцев назад
Dude I've been all over the world, i LOVE traveling. I'm working my fingers off trying to be good enough to go on the road
@stratman9449
@stratman9449 2 года назад
i know this is 3 years old...but it still is very current...and you two guys are both such nice guys......that can play and teach......great stuff.....cheers...
@kevinnathanson6876
@kevinnathanson6876 5 лет назад
Great job guys! And Tim, hang in there, and pretty soon you'll be able to finally buy some recording gear and fx for yourself.
@mightymouse742
@mightymouse742 5 лет назад
I've been playing for 35 years and I played professionally for a several of those years. Fortunately I recorded my own material with my own band and toured. I always had the attitude that if I couldn't be successful in the music business with my own material I really didn't want to be in the music business. I had a decent run and never reached the top level but I didn't care. I was hit up back in the day to tour with a major band after my brand broke up, I passed. I hate playing covers and I didn't want to play somebody's else's licks all night. I liked creating my own music, that was the reason I picked up an instrument and my motivation to keep playing. Anyway, I wound up entering another line of work that I enjoy and I'm doing alright and I still play, write and record when I want to. I actually play better now than when I was doing music for a living. No time constraints, no agendas, no pressure, I do what I want, when I want. There's also no way I'd be able to do the "spinning plates" routine with social media and all of the BS. I despise Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, for many reasons, propaganda and censorship platforms. Good video Tim.
@zac3392
@zac3392 4 года назад
The Fury Any place to hear ur music?
@russellesimonetta3835
@russellesimonetta3835 5 лет назад
I always liked road work when was young. Now it,s get up, walk the dog, get on the road to the supermarket and i,m done.
@DENIEL381
@DENIEL381 5 лет назад
LOL
@SuperQdaddy
@SuperQdaddy 4 года назад
Being a side man is like doin factory work...but it would be fun to do when your young...you have to love the music and leader..traveling itself is tiring
@NickGranville
@NickGranville 4 года назад
I love touring but it’s not as glamorous as most people think. Great video and nice to hear you two discuss this
@TheNinnyfee
@TheNinnyfee 4 года назад
Oh, the smoke machine! I once had to come on stage as a dancer in a group and the thing just all engulfed us and we didn't see our positions. The Bermuda Triangle is nothing compares to these contraptions. 😄🙈
@RC32Smiths01
@RC32Smiths01 5 лет назад
Amazing work as always, Tim! Really awesome collab, as well as truthful advice indeed!
@johnfoster4244
@johnfoster4244 3 года назад
My first and main long term bus gig was with country artist Sammy Kershaw. I'd spend my spare time not at the hotel but with the bus at the venue. My days were spent getting exercise, working on my vocal and guitar chops, and a bit of song writing. Slept great on the bus. However, after four years, my touring musician days were done. Not to mention, I didn't start a bus tour till I was about 32 years old.
@larrydicus7822
@larrydicus7822 4 года назад
Touring is a nightmare. Your basically going from town to town, state to state, country to country and YOU’RE constantly tired. I toured in the late 90s through the early 2000s about 10 years. Back before iPhones, FaceTime and zoom to keep in touch with family and you spend half your day doing nothing but waiting on catering lol. I’d rather play in a local band , play some songs and then head back to the house. But god the pay was crazy, free Gibson guitars, tons of free beer and whiskey.
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
You're*
@larrydicus7822
@larrydicus7822 4 года назад
Dave Carsley Did you actually take the time to reply with the contraction of you are? By correcting a RU-vid comment for an improper use of a word shows who little of a life you must have. With all hope, I truly wish this filled a hole in your existence , but it only shows what kind of fucktard of a person you are.
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
@@larrydicus7822 Do you honestly, really, _truly_ not realize the utterly shocking lack of self-awareness you're displaying here? You're declaring that I'm a loser and a horrible person who must have an unbelievably sad life. This entire conclusion is evidenced solely by the fact that I took the time to write a *one word comment* about grammar on the internet. Only a person with a "hole in their existence" would care to spend their precious little time on this earth writing a one word comment about grammar on the internet, right? Yet, here _YOU_ are, using _YOUR_ precious little time on this earth to direct sentence after sentence after sentence of pure, unadulterated hatred at a complete stranger simply because they wrote a one word comment about grammar on the internet. How could you possibly have gotten through the process of composing and posting that entire comment without realizing the obvious hypocrisy of what you're doing??? Maybe people who correct the grammar of others (trying to help them improve themselves and not appear as uneducated fools) are dick heads. I'm willing to accept that premise. But people who go through their entire lives bashing, insulting, and hating other humans for their actions without ever being introspective enough to stop for one second and think, "Wait, I'm not like that as well, or even worse, am I?" are truly RUINING our society, and making it a horrible, vitriolic system within which to exist. You really should run for a national political office, Larry. There is no place on this earth where you'd fit in more perfectly.
@Arthagnou
@Arthagnou 4 года назад
we are all in high school still...please act accordingly
@davidkulmaczewski4911
@davidkulmaczewski4911 4 года назад
@@larrydicus7822 "How" "How" little of a life...
@RobHollanderMusic
@RobHollanderMusic 5 лет назад
Truly valuable channel for musicians and anyone who takes an interest in live music.
@violao206
@violao206 4 года назад
I wanted more road stories because I know there are many... My low-level, in-the-trenches, cruise ship days could be rather boring, but also crazy AF...
@RossCampbellGuitarist
@RossCampbellGuitarist 5 лет назад
You both were absolutely burning in that intro! Love it.
@timpierceguitar
@timpierceguitar 5 лет назад
Ross, Thanks! Everybody go check out Ross Campbell‘s channel , It’s great
@EDKguy
@EDKguy 4 года назад
I tell my kids, there are 2 kind of people. People who need to take a job and people who need to make a job. Tim needs the creative challenge to create and engineer and problem solve. It's in your DNA
@Guppusmaximus
@Guppusmaximus 4 года назад
I think if more people realized that the challenge is what Music is all about then there wouldn't be this misconception about some sort of automatic money guaranteed. Session work is cool, a touring gig would be great BUT I still prefer being a member of the band making my musical vision / direction / idea a reality.
@davidlawrence5
@davidlawrence5 5 лет назад
My first world tour was 1977 and I did't stop until 1988. I had an intense 'road tan' that had me shaking when I got off the road with the what the hell do I do now blues? Mind and body needed to return to daily life among the civilians and I felt far too itchy to be sitting around so I'd go looking for another gig. Yes, I had a pocketful of money and 'connections' but finally, I had to cave in and say enough. L.A. was teeming with players who'd take an opening act van tour, live on $15 per diem and $100 a week in salary. I was getting older and felt it. All in all I regret not a single day and I've tales of a great journey that would make most people jealous.
@stevestringer7351
@stevestringer7351 5 лет назад
Thats awesome. Tell us more!
@flash001USA
@flash001USA 5 лет назад
When I was younger and even all through my late 40's I traveled from state to state in the southeast along with up and down the coast and would sometimes leave in the summer and not come back home till winter rolled in. It sounds like we were roughly in the same era with me starting around 79. Even with local gigs I always got lucky and played in projects that would at times gig 6 nights a week but you nailed it when you said there were kids who would do it for practically nothing. I just turned 60 and I'm working on getting back out again but on my terms this time around. I think once it's in your blood it never goes away.
@ManOrWomanIDK
@ManOrWomanIDK 5 лет назад
I thought y'all were in different rooms until the end lol
@ndsmudlogger4061
@ndsmudlogger4061 5 лет назад
What do you mean? Weren’t they in different rooms?
@MostlyEarTraining
@MostlyEarTraining 5 лет назад
I thought they were doing some sort of internet link thing - funny reveal.
@MostlyEarTraining
@MostlyEarTraining 5 лет назад
@@ndsmudlogger4061 nope - see 15:35 or so.... the camera pans from one to the other.
@mythillogic
@mythillogic 4 года назад
I actually thought it was only a video meeting and they were in different locations. My casual assumption was 'hundreds of miles apart'.
@tjnugent62
@tjnugent62 5 лет назад
I like to wake up in the same place every morning. I am also to tightly wound to enjoy that much actual travel.
@Bato1109
@Bato1109 4 года назад
I'm deeply thankful for this video, Tim! I started thinking about me, if I'm kinda weird because I enjoy it not being in a band anymore.
@jeffreyburton7284
@jeffreyburton7284 5 лет назад
I've got a number of Corey's Truefire courses. He's a great player and teacher. Especially, if you're into that modern countrified Blues sound.
@Alien_nation
@Alien_nation 5 лет назад
One of these days I’m going to learn to play guitar 🎸
@quantumfoam140
@quantumfoam140 5 лет назад
Broncopotamus It’s never too late to start, and you’ll be glad you did 🎸
@jupiterrising5918
@jupiterrising5918 Год назад
Excellent video. Really cool having the dual opinions.
@modernmangoman6476
@modernmangoman6476 5 лет назад
It's really nice every now and then to watch real pro's doing this thing called music
@michaelhermsmeyer2155
@michaelhermsmeyer2155 4 года назад
A-Freakin’-Men!!! Glad I left it all behind! Sure there were fun times and I got to see some great places in the world but At 52, I’m glad it’s over! All your stories ring true!!!
@markrabin815
@markrabin815 5 лет назад
To start, you both are incredible players and the licks are tasty! Heartfelt Thanx ! I hesitated in leaving you a comment Tim because I would rather you put out more videos than comment on my comment :) I am really enjoying your channel; it has helped me.Thanks for being so generous with your talents! I would love to see more on how you typically track, why you choose what you choose, and a segment on phrasing. Also on how to put together phrases when you simply ain't inspired by what your playing on.
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