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The swords in Lord of the Rings - Would they be practical in real life? 

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Many people have asked for a video about LotR swords, so here it finally is. There is not all that much to say, and definitely nothing for me to rant about.
The designers did a good job of making these weapons look convincing. They are all well proportioned and neither overly thick nor afflicted by hand-slaying grips of discomfort, as opposed to many other fantasy swords. Many of them are somewhat reminiscent or even pretty similar to original swords from Antiquity, the Middle Ages or the Renaissance.
So... let's see how many pointless "it's just a movie" and "nobody cares about realism" comments there will be this time.
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Комментарии : 8 тыс.   
@MrWarlord396
@MrWarlord396 6 лет назад
The Orc swords being ugly but entirely functional fits right into LOTR lore. "The orcs made few beautiful things, but many clever ones."
@EmilReiko
@EmilReiko 6 лет назад
Raises the question, what beautifull things did they make?
@newbie6377
@newbie6377 6 лет назад
R3ika uhm... Barad-dur?
@EmilReiko
@EmilReiko 6 лет назад
I do not think our aesthetics are compatible...
@newbie6377
@newbie6377 6 лет назад
R3ika well, barad dur is beautifully built by a race that lives on caves and tents
@balazszsigmond826
@balazszsigmond826 6 лет назад
Beautiful things? Lets see... An army worth if beautiful shields, armor, swords... Beautiful spears and siege engines... You know...
@DoctorProph3t
@DoctorProph3t 3 года назад
“He (hobbit) should be carrying a buckler or shield.” Lol, frying pan.
@coppertopv365
@coppertopv365 3 года назад
A Shield Vs a man like a Viking.. breaks the Shield and Arm..
@DoctorProph3t
@DoctorProph3t 3 года назад
Coppertop V because that was clearly the context of the point.
@PoochMG
@PoochMG 3 года назад
@@coppertopv365 as opposed to just getting completely cleaved through the arm and torso lol
@coppertopv365
@coppertopv365 3 года назад
@@PoochMG have you tried something similar Before... Extremely Difficult
@PoochMG
@PoochMG 3 года назад
@@coppertopv365 more so if there's a buckler
@peterahl6807
@peterahl6807 2 года назад
Though this is sort of apologetics for the film design, I personally like the idea of the witch king's weapon being utterly impractical. It makes sense to me that he would choose a weapon which was so large and unwieldy that it any normal mortal simply couldn't use it, just for the intimidation factor of his enemies seeing him swing an anvil-sized chunk of steel around. The dude seemed to enjoy fear tactics, but that's just my take. Awesome video!
@Blacklightprince
@Blacklightprince 2 года назад
Aye but if we think of it a bodybuilder could (in theory ) weld the witch kings frail Edit : I realize the flaws of my thought process so let me rephrase it : theoretically a man who is as strong as the limits say can be able to lift the witch king’s mace albeit not the greatest, but still able to carry it.
@Ganon999
@Ganon999 2 года назад
In the behind the scenes Peter Jackson would see the flail design but every time would just say "can we make it bigger?" lol that happened a handful of times before they went with that you see in the film lol even the big guy they had as the Witch King could barely lift it effectively but the Witch King in the film is of course unnaturally strong so I think it works in that context.
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 2 года назад
Correct. Historical war gear could be impractical. In XVIth and early XVIIth century, Polish combat and not parade horse tacks could be so heavily filled with gold and jewels it became dangerous and special laws had to be introduced that limited use of gold and jewels. Also historians cannot agree if wings of Polish hussars had any practical function. Some argue they gave some protection against being caught by Tatar lasso, some that they were only there for cool factor, same as tiger and leopard skins. It is however certain that in late XVIIth century they were used to scare the enemy by presence of Husaria, and different formations would use them to pretend that they were more dangerous than they actually were. For example you had only a hundred Hussars or none at all, but from distance it looked like there were thousands because of the wings.
@Ganon999
@Ganon999 2 года назад
@@piotrmalewski8178 That's very interesting. I've played a lot of Age of Empires and the Hussars do looks awesome lol
@piotrmalewski8178
@piotrmalewski8178 2 года назад
@@Ganon999 Too bad AoE doesn't have mechanics to implement most of their attacks, but it was never an important unit in the game. You can use their tactics though, loose formation and most bullets from the muskets will miss. That's what they did in real life. Loose chessboard-like array to dodge bullets, and 100 to 60 meters before ramming when enemy musketeers would be running to hide behind pikemen and not firing anymore, coordinated tightening of the array to wipe out infantry with kopias.
@Dean444ful
@Dean444ful 3 года назад
“Yes, that works” “Yes that works” “Yes that works” “No guard” “Half guard” “Weird guard” This video essentially
@DoctorProph3t
@DoctorProph3t 3 года назад
“I’m boring.” “I’m boring.” “I’m incredibly boring.” “Why did I even click on a video made for entertainment.” “I’m such a boring fuck.” “But I think I’m better than everyone.” This comment essentially
@lorddunsparce9425
@lorddunsparce9425 3 года назад
@@DoctorProph3t he didn’t say the video was bad
@Dean444ful
@Dean444ful 3 года назад
@@DoctorProph3t bitch the highlight of your day is painting your nails and microwaving shit
@DoctorProph3t
@DoctorProph3t 3 года назад
@@lorddunsparce9425 I didn’t say he said it was. Don’t conflate what isn’t there.
@Dean444ful
@Dean444ful 3 года назад
@@DoctorProph3t “Don’t conflate what isn’t there” take your own advice
@ThrillaWhale
@ThrillaWhale 5 лет назад
You see those elves from Rivendell? They’ve got curved swords. CURVED. SWORDS.
@sketep1117
@sketep1117 5 лет назад
Curved p*nises. Curved. P*nises.
@janiellawinchestra1838
@janiellawinchestra1838 5 лет назад
That's for d*mn sure
@noahjohnson2074
@noahjohnson2074 5 лет назад
What's your point
@janiellawinchestra1838
@janiellawinchestra1838 5 лет назад
@@noahjohnson2074 it's a reference from a parody in skyrim
@noahjohnson2074
@noahjohnson2074 5 лет назад
Janiella Winchestra ,oh
@Mikeanglo
@Mikeanglo 7 лет назад
A hobbit wielding a claymore. Holy fuck that would be cool.
@METALGEARMATRIX
@METALGEARMATRIX 7 лет назад
Had a Halfling Paladin in my DnD ground once that did this. ... No calf was safe
@RowanBuchananroabie
@RowanBuchananroabie 7 лет назад
I'm just curious on how they'd do that, lol. Halfings and hobbits are described as being around 2-3 feet tall. Whatever works; works, I suppose =P
@josephcole8102
@josephcole8102 7 лет назад
basically those tiny goblin guys in darksouls 3 that have a broad sword
@BEZERKSTUDIOS718
@BEZERKSTUDIOS718 7 лет назад
"it's simply not feasible"
@Mikeanglo
@Mikeanglo 7 лет назад
Frank Bowman Neither are dragons...or Cloud's ridiculous buster sword. But those are still awesome.
@shadowjezzter
@shadowjezzter 4 года назад
Imagine a army of hobbits but armed as Spartans.
@williamcasey1927
@williamcasey1927 4 года назад
all those crotch and gut level points. ow.
@macehilmatecilof4140
@macehilmatecilof4140 4 года назад
Haha ok
@DrakeKnight99
@DrakeKnight99 4 года назад
I watched a guy called Shadiversity and he mentioned dwarves with Kite Shields would be a very hard thing to deal with due to size
@catnium
@catnium 4 года назад
and im all out of bubble gum
@PinguinCrazy
@PinguinCrazy 4 года назад
sounds cute lol
@penguin1011986
@penguin1011986 4 года назад
You missed your opportunity to call your video Swords of the Rings.
@enterchannelnamehere2922
@enterchannelnamehere2922 4 года назад
Apologize to Tolkien, NOW!!!1111!!!
@syngos98
@syngos98 4 года назад
Lord of the Swords
@mrhalfwit972
@mrhalfwit972 4 года назад
@@syngos98 thats just worse
@mackienzykahl
@mackienzykahl 4 года назад
@@syngos98 swords of the lords
@gt42636
@gt42636 4 года назад
What about: Blades of Middle Earth?
@Arimil1234512345
@Arimil1234512345 8 лет назад
I think the only reason they gave the witchking that absurd mace was just to reinforce the point that he wasn't human, and that he was absurdly strong.
@Aragiss
@Aragiss 8 лет назад
+Ian Roper (Arimil75) True. I can see that such a huge flail could be effective if the user is many times stronger than a normal man.
@aidanallen1976
@aidanallen1976 8 лет назад
+Ian Roper (Arimil75) Peter Jackson just kept on saying, bigger, no even bigger, till it got ridiculous.
@chancepaladin
@chancepaladin 8 лет назад
+Ian Roper (Arimil75) I don't know. It reminds me of Leoric's gigantic flange mace which would actually send people flinging in every direction... but that flange + chain thing... err... yea just, yeah. :P
@wolframite3657
@wolframite3657 8 лет назад
+Chance Paladin Well if you know the physics behind a flail, then you would know that it's actually very practical, assuming it's made out of a material light enough for it to not swing you around in return, let's say best case scenario, it weighs the same as your average flail, good then it's extremely practical, worst case is that it weighs some ridiculous amount and you have to wear extremely heavy armour just to not get thrown each time you swing the damn thing, then practicality is out the window.
@Landibert
@Landibert 8 лет назад
It was pretty much just meant to look really impressive and intimidating. That's all there is to it, yes.
@alexandermatheson8312
@alexandermatheson8312 5 лет назад
The spike on the Uruk-hai murder weapon was literally designed to pull riders off of horses, and be simple and quick to manufacture.
@kivilife
@kivilife 5 лет назад
Went through lots of comments looking for this. Almost every weapon that came out of Isengard had the intend to either dismount Rohirrim or straight up kill them on horseback.
@JC130676
@JC130676 5 лет назад
But having the spike at a 90 degree angle isn't the most effective. It makes it hard to pull the weapon out again so there's a very real probability that it will be pulled out of the users hands instead. Putting the spike at a 60 to 70 degree angle will still allow you to hook it behind something or smash it into something or someone but makes it much easier to pull out.
@allennyros1527
@allennyros1527 5 лет назад
Good call!
@nathanhursey6779
@nathanhursey6779 5 лет назад
JC130676 I don’t think orcs know geometry.
@spirit959ful
@spirit959ful 5 лет назад
@@nathanhursey6779 Saruman definately did though so he could (and most definately would) have told them how to create the weapon.
@BoofPack69
@BoofPack69 3 года назад
Other people: Dressing based on trends and living normally Skallagrim:
@Justicsgenie
@Justicsgenie 3 года назад
hey emperor palpatine has style
@HOMIOI1
@HOMIOI1 2 года назад
living “normally” is debatable
@frankenstein6677
@frankenstein6677 3 года назад
I feel like the Orcish sword from Skyrim was inspired by the Uruk-hai blade, but some developer just thought "hurr durr, orc blades pointy, they stoopid" and forgot that orcs are supposed to be the best smiths in Tamriel.
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 3 года назад
Never thought about that tbh. Funny thing is Skyrim's worldbuilding is actually pretty good.
@Spyrocrab
@Spyrocrab 3 года назад
Uruks were mass produced to overcome more experienced warriors with numbers and tactical maneuvering, yeah. They were expected to die frequently, but wear down their opponents with armored numbers, with a single enemy facing several well-drilled uruks. They were likely trained to re-sharpen the blades between every fight, with most of their battles being short, brutal blitzes that commit everything in one attack.
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 3 года назад
I actually kinda liked the Skyrim orc swords. Unlike the Uruk-hai swords I found the Orsimer blades weirdly elegant despite the brutish style - they remind me a bit of some Filipino weapons. The orcish dagger is one of my favorites in that game, design-wise, since I think it looks sorta like a fantasy combat knife. The serrations along the edges are a bit weird, sure, but oddball stuff like that isn't completely unheard of in historical weapons (just look at Skall's examples) and it sorta make sense that the best smiths around would go for a complex style that matches their cultural aesthetic.
@pinkfloydguy7781
@pinkfloydguy7781 10 месяцев назад
Skyrim’s Orcish weapon and armor design is horrible compared to the designs in Morrowind and Oblivion
@maj.peppers3332
@maj.peppers3332 7 лет назад
"This video is gonna be boring" 1.116 million views...
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 7 лет назад
I don't get it either.
@maj.peppers3332
@maj.peppers3332 7 лет назад
***** Didn't expect a response. But, just want to say thank you! You've been my first impression and entrance into HEMA and weaponry. Keep up the good work!
@yolkonut6851
@yolkonut6851 7 лет назад
it's all the LOTR fans trying to show everyone how cool LOTR is
@ihateyoutubehandlesxX
@ihateyoutubehandlesxX 7 лет назад
that cloak fly as shit my nigga
@1337fraggzb00N
@1337fraggzb00N 7 лет назад
Same with cats. You buy a cat tree for 500 bucks and the cat prefers the packaging XD
@stephenross5586
@stephenross5586 5 лет назад
Hobbit with a big ass sword: YOUR THROAT WILL HANG! Hobbit with a short sword: YOUR ANKLES ARE MINE!!!!
@ChinChin-tj5dn
@ChinChin-tj5dn 4 года назад
Me in Dark Souls 3 against Giants:
@edusc6893
@edusc6893 4 года назад
Rather like Hobbits with a short sword: YOU ARE FEMALE NOWW!!!!
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 года назад
@@edusc6893 My inner TFS is screaming at this. Integra: FUCK HIM IN THE VAGINA! Alucard: >laughs< ALRIGHT! *But I'm gonna have to **_make one._*
@eleabell7607
@eleabell7607 3 года назад
I mean, tbh, try to do jack shit in a fight without ankles. Not a good position to be in.
@Nob911
@Nob911 3 года назад
@@eleabell7607 I mean without anything below the knee haha they will rename you sir stubs of halfstackia
@SeRgEaNt_RaNdOm
@SeRgEaNt_RaNdOm 3 года назад
I'm really surprised an axe guy like Skall didn't talk about Gimili's Battle Axe
@marcelina6211
@marcelina6211 3 года назад
well the title is about the swords. maybe we will have another video about Gimli's and other axes :)
@pfclex6737
@pfclex6737 3 года назад
He talked about a flail
@ivanperez2705
@ivanperez2705 3 года назад
I suspect he would have said, "yes, it works."
@ejayh.8360
@ejayh.8360 3 года назад
It looks a bit fancier than what you would normally find in the field. But given the proportions of that thing, it looks functional. Plus mystic dwarven forging so...
@efeguller6022
@efeguller6022 3 года назад
I think it looks a bit heavy with its thick and double edged head and thick handle compared to a dane axe so it could be a bit hard to move fast with it but if dwarves are stronger than normal people in the lore which im not so sure it can be practical for them
@TextiX887
@TextiX887 4 года назад
I have always thought that the Witch king's morning star to be a good design for him, seeing as he is an undead with inhuman strength. I don't think you should judge that weapon according to a human standard.
@Lukashoffmann94
@Lukashoffmann94 4 года назад
Even Sauron was more conservative with his mace.
@bighatastrea
@bighatastrea 4 года назад
Can someone explain to me why he called the morningstar "obviously ridiculous"? I don't really get it, weren't flails and morningstars decent weapons? I can see them being more effective than actual swords in many situations, especially against armor. Better than "stiff" morningstars since the range is bigger and you can swing it around, I would rather try that with full speed than trying to stab someone with a sword - it's not easy to get the right grip and do so, and it's incredibly hard to kill someone with a medieval sword while the flail crushes bones
@Zorro9129
@Zorro9129 4 года назад
It looks like if it were swung fast enough, the chain would break and go flying.
@SultanFilm
@SultanFilm 4 года назад
@@bighatastrea would be too heavy to use with one hand and control. Would have to need supernatural strength and ability to properly use. Even with two hands one would have to spin around in a circle to get the head of it off the ground. Actual morning stars the ball itself isn't really all that big compared to the handle.
@nevermore7285
@nevermore7285 4 года назад
Kiko-chan The problem is how massive the Morningstar part is. If you tried to swing it and actually managed to get it off the ground, it would take you with it.
@fromolwyoming
@fromolwyoming 8 лет назад
One scene not shown in Return of the King, was Aragorn taking the pommel off his legendary sword, and threw it at the Eye of Sauron, ending him rightly!
@FoddyFogHorn
@FoddyFogHorn 8 лет назад
I think that's in the extended edition but I'm not sure :/
@bbdawise
@bbdawise 8 лет назад
+FoddyFogHorn ! No, you're thinking of the extra super extended edition.
@alexavery311
@alexavery311 8 лет назад
+fromolwyoming Yeah, you're missing the ultra super extended (super duper) edition.
@FoddyFogHorn
@FoddyFogHorn 8 лет назад
Thanks, ill be sure to pick it up next time I'm out
@paavokokko
@paavokokko 8 лет назад
+alex Avery I'm guessing much of the extended footage is Aragorn taking his time to unscrew the pommel.
@KingNefiiria
@KingNefiiria 6 лет назад
From what I remember, wasn't Sting basically a long dagger? Because Bilbo is so small , a dagger looks like a short sword in his hands.
@professionalmemeenthusiast2117
Yes it was an elvish dagger
@juan8777
@juan8777 5 лет назад
Greek Xiphos design
@SAGERUNE
@SAGERUNE 5 лет назад
basing it off the xiphos is actually kinda smart if you consider the third age to be the fantasy equivalent of medieval europe, and the first age to be bronze, it was forged in gondolin and gondolin could be considered the equal of greece.
@randallcase1009
@randallcase1009 5 лет назад
I thought it was a letter opener! ; ) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YeY-31GmFkM.html
@bermby
@bermby 5 лет назад
It's a short sword yeah
@user-qx4fc1up8y
@user-qx4fc1up8y 4 года назад
Now let's ask if the armour of lord of the rings is practical
@NateB
@NateB 4 года назад
"Yes."
@user-qx4fc1up8y
@user-qx4fc1up8y 4 года назад
Well sh-
@klausolekristiansen2960
@klausolekristiansen2960 4 года назад
John Howe, one of the two conceptual designers, is an expert on armor and was always pestering the people designing the armor about details that were not realistic.
@gershomtan5879
@gershomtan5879 3 года назад
What armor?
@user-qx4fc1up8y
@user-qx4fc1up8y 3 года назад
That one they use in the movies
@cytorakdemon
@cytorakdemon 3 года назад
Always liked Theoden's sword, Herugrim. It's like a Gladius or Spatha, and the guard being two horses forming a heart is a nice detail.
@guil7290
@guil7290 Год назад
Reminds me of Norse weapons
@adrianaslund8605
@adrianaslund8605 Год назад
I guess its supposed to look like a Viking sword. Like an Ulfbehrt sword. Which was technically like a nordic spatha.
@ericlayton8888
@ericlayton8888 11 месяцев назад
Herugrim is my all-time favourite sword design
@cal2127
@cal2127 4 месяца назад
its more vendel era than viking
@fayd-yt4526
@fayd-yt4526 6 лет назад
old video, but the morgul dagger probably has its guard facing backwards because its made to deflect a blade that is trying to block it. ring wraiths wouldnt care if somebody hits them with a sword, what they would care about is having their blow blocked. if they went in for a stab that design would guide a blade away from the dagger and allow it to continue forwards.
@deejay9474
@deejay9474 6 лет назад
Fayd-YT... Thats... Actually... Genius!
@fayd-yt4526
@fayd-yt4526 6 лет назад
thanks :P, i doubt that the workshop actually considered that. im sure the design was purely for aesthetic purposes, but finding ways to justify an artists aesthetic choices can be fun :P.
@DenverHarward
@DenverHarward 5 лет назад
This is actually an interesting point (no pun intended)
@HHLucifer666
@HHLucifer666 5 лет назад
I think it’s more of a ceremonial peice for sacrifices to bolster dark magic. I mean, think about where it was found, Dol Guldur, a place of black magic and probably where humans sacrificed elves and hobbits and other beings to achieve their ends. It was probably made to be held with the arm parallel to the flat and was designed with intimidation in mind
@DarkValorWolf
@DarkValorWolf 5 лет назад
@@HHLucifer666 That theory doesn't hold up, Dol Guldur was built by sauron (a Maiar) and the area it's in is completely surrounded by elves. It was only shortly occupied by "humans" when the Nazgul reigned over it. But none of that even comes into play as Morgul-Blades are described as blades forged in the wraith world designed to have the tip break off at the taste of flesh and everything except the tip in the victim will turn to dust, said tip will slowly work its way to the heart where it will turn the victim into a wraith. So yeah, it's meant for one time use, and unless they really wanted some more wraiths they wouldn't use it non ceremonially. edit: wording
@drago2021
@drago2021 8 лет назад
"You wouldn't expect orcs to take proper care of their weapons." Skallagrim is racist against orcs. Wow. Who am I even subscribed to?
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 8 лет назад
Well to be fair, orcs aren't really that concerned about their blades, so long as they have enough of an edge to kill what they're swinging into. Plus, if the blades are dirty, that just means more chance of the wounds getting infected should the target manage to survive the orc's attack....
@drago2021
@drago2021 8 лет назад
+Kartissa I... I was joking...
@Kartissa
@Kartissa 8 лет назад
drago2021 Sorry. I have difficulty reading sarcasm when I'm tired....
@prufenful
@prufenful 8 лет назад
Orcs are love
@simonwatts8338
@simonwatts8338 8 лет назад
The one thing I would expect an Orc to look after would be his blade. In the books, Uglûk, Shagrat and Gorbag, the only Orcs who actually speak very much, all sound like course British army NCOs, something the film misses out. And as NCOs they keep discipline which would mean care of weapons. Interesting facts on Orcs. They are immortal. Unless killed by violence, they don't die or age. This is because basically, they are ruined, mutated Elves.
@mitromney
@mitromney 4 года назад
The Witchking dagger's guard makes perfect sense if you think about what the weapon is used for. It's a cursed, poisonous dagger that's used for stabbing an opponent through armor. It's not made for dueling, it's not meant to parry a sword. It's purpose is to stab, reach opponent's flesh and make a wound as deep as possible, leave some of the dagger's fragile blade inside the body of the enemy, and let then let them go - afterwards, they would transform into undead themselves because of the dagger's power. This is why the guard is backwards. Because a regular guard, by pointing upwards, limits your ability to stab your target. As you dip your blade in the body, points in your guard would stop the blade from going deeper. By bending the guard downwards, you allow the blade to go extra inch inside the body, down to the very handle. This guard allows for maximum penetration, that's why it's shaped that way. You could say - well, why make a guard at all then? Guard makes sure you also don't stab TOO deep. It stops penetration at the very moment the blade ends, and allows you to easily pull it back. So yeah, the guard is both practical, and useful that way. A dagger this fragile, and used specifically to create poisonous stabbing wounds, was obviously not Witchking's dueling weapon. He had his sword, and his mace for that.
@larsf478
@larsf478 4 года назад
So why not put no guard at all there?
@ravenrenalius7684
@ravenrenalius7684 4 года назад
@@larsf478 you are not the smartest in the room, arent you?
@larsf478
@larsf478 4 года назад
@@ravenrenalius7684 yeah probably. You have no manners, don't you?
@ravenrenalius7684
@ravenrenalius7684 4 года назад
@@larsf478 yeah probably
@stan5794
@stan5794 4 года назад
@@larsf478 he says it in the comment.
@darthsidious6753
@darthsidious6753 4 года назад
All the sword designs in LOTR films would work in real life even the completely fictional designs like the elf swords.
@ashisunblade
@ashisunblade 4 года назад
I imagine that is because, unlike all the weird video game swords, these were actually made and were functional in real life by Weta.
@nubreed13
@nubreed13 4 года назад
Helps that every single one was hand forged by real blade smiths.
@sailor5853
@sailor5853 4 года назад
A well placed stone would kill in real life
@EpizodBG
@EpizodBG 4 года назад
Why completely fictional? Except for the lack of a guard, the shape of the Elven sword is a perfectly normal sabre. But the small spikes whose purpose is to serve this role maybe?
@Halinspark
@Halinspark 4 года назад
@@EpizodBG Most of the examples given were elf blades, and I don't see a problem with any of them. Even the ones he didn't mention from the opening battle that are about half handle are still perfectly servicable designs.
@samsowden
@samsowden 7 лет назад
Tolkien described the uruk-hai as wielding scimitars. They went for a different design in the movies.
@MrSheckstr
@MrSheckstr 6 лет назад
Sam Sowden García I think because they wanted to portray the orcs as crude and brutish as possible with zero grace or finesse
@Corey-dk3xi
@Corey-dk3xi 6 лет назад
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@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 6 лет назад
Sam Sowden García both are awesome designs
@pickle2636
@pickle2636 6 лет назад
read brutish as british
@BigBWolf90
@BigBWolf90 6 лет назад
well if you look at the Orcs, not the Uruk-hai, the do wield large Scimitar-esque looking blades. If I had to compare it to something it would be like a slightly trimmed down, more brutish & more fantasy designed version of that over sized Scimitar from Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark
@tavsultra9458
@tavsultra9458 8 лет назад
Skall you look like a Sith Lord .
@elliotadams7463
@elliotadams7463 8 лет назад
+LORD TAVISH darth Skall does sound like a badass sith lords name
@crankstonshnord6591
@crankstonshnord6591 8 лет назад
Much more intimidating than Kylo Ren for sure haha
@Crawfishness
@Crawfishness 8 лет назад
+Elliot Adams Darth Skall, anyone?
@sartanko
@sartanko 8 лет назад
+Crawfishness Darth Grim?
@dustinkunish377
@dustinkunish377 8 лет назад
Darth beard
@Cyberdemon1542
@Cyberdemon1542 4 года назад
The spike on the sword would also be great for unseating horsemen.
@toonsis
@toonsis 3 года назад
it could not be sheathed and be a bigger danger to the wearer when carried
@godlygamer2466
@godlygamer2466 3 года назад
Or disarming
@sassythesasquatch1571
@sassythesasquatch1571 3 года назад
Punching through armour
@quynlanvuorensyrja5484
@quynlanvuorensyrja5484 3 года назад
Or hooking limbs and shields.
@MaximumOvercricket
@MaximumOvercricket 2 года назад
Historically, many swords weren't kept in a formal scabbard. Many types of swords just weren't able to be held or retrieved from one conveniently. People would often just use a simple loop to carry them around, and wrap them in an animal skin to keep them safe from the elements during travel.
@eyecontactleadsto
@eyecontactleadsto 3 года назад
How excellent is that Uruk Hai makeup and costuming? I'm not even particularly a fan of the LOTR movies but what a great job by the makeup department. How well they look and hold up today, even in close ups and still images.
@shiezer682
@shiezer682 3 года назад
Peter Jackson and his team were amazing. Even the battle scenes, makeup and design for every single fantasy creature was great. For the Uruk-hai makeup, I think resin and plaster would have been used? Resin is easy to work with and is strong, same with plaster. I don't know though
@Trapsarentgay133
@Trapsarentgay133 3 года назад
One thing I really noticed was how jacked the actors were like they must have been hitting the gym for months before
@vincentlinsin6549
@vincentlinsin6549 Год назад
@@Trapsarentgay133 The films were shot in new zealand, and a lot of the extras for the bigger guys were local polynesians, samoans, etc. big tough indigenous dudes who could play the warrior culture act very well
@vincentlinsin6549
@vincentlinsin6549 Год назад
@Darklord Samoht I remember reading that the punches/headbutts in that scene are (painfully) full force for the same reason, that they guy couldn't see jack from the makeup. Honestly, it's a miracle nobody died or got crippled filming these.
@yunix2396
@yunix2396 5 лет назад
The sword in thumbnail is pratical. I mean you never know when you need to scratch your back in battle.
@jubbus
@jubbus 4 года назад
Don’t mind the blood!
@hmkhgx8068
@hmkhgx8068 4 года назад
If you scratch your back once with the sword you'll never have to do it again. Best back scratcher ever.
@xanxv1246
@xanxv1246 4 года назад
@@hmkhgx8068 consider this swords are made for orcs and not milk drinkers, that sword just hits the perfect spot in an orc's back, right in to the bone
@Haliconable
@Haliconable 3 года назад
You got this wrong... it's for the orc prostate
@nancyabsalon9436
@nancyabsalon9436 3 года назад
I think it's also made to dismount horseriders. Like you see some dude on a horse and you just spin your sword and slam the spike into their armor then yank them to the ground
@jamesmccomb9525
@jamesmccomb9525 7 лет назад
Skallgrim: I shouldn't make the video, it won't be- Skallgrim to skallgrim: Do it
@etunimisukunimi702
@etunimisukunimi702 7 лет назад
ayyy i got it
@etunimisukunimi702
@etunimisukunimi702 7 лет назад
lmao
@alvarmallo7167
@alvarmallo7167 7 лет назад
dewit
@SuperDhsm
@SuperDhsm 6 лет назад
i'm laughing so hard right now lmao
@flameconvoy7424
@flameconvoy7424 6 лет назад
James McComb let your logic flow through you
@LuxCirilo
@LuxCirilo 3 года назад
I like how this man is honest with his content he basically did it for the viewers but never tricked us into believing it was worth the time
@Soul93Taker
@Soul93Taker 3 года назад
In the words of the man portraying the Witch King about his weapon: "Some people called it a mace, others a flail. I called it what it was, which was damn heavy." There's even a video of Peter Jackson trying to lift it and he almost falls ON the thing because he couldn't hold it properly. So yes, it's impractical for a human being, which is why the Witch King was so fearsome as his strength was enough to wield it without much problem in the movie.
@teabearchurchill5600
@teabearchurchill5600 3 года назад
Just gonna say, that was Manu Bennett.
@VengefulMaverick
@VengefulMaverick 3 года назад
Well, the witch king is an undead being with magic and the magic imbued ring given to him by Sauron. So I'd imagine he'd be pretty strong...
@h0m3st4r
@h0m3st4r 8 лет назад
One more thing to love about The Lord of the Rings: most of the weapons are not only awesome but also practical.
@brodericksiz625
@brodericksiz625 8 лет назад
I always thought that Anduril and Glamdring look beautiful
@404killer
@404killer 8 лет назад
+h0m3st4r No, they're not.
@SkurtavusGrodolfus
@SkurtavusGrodolfus 8 лет назад
It goes to show that a functional blade is always easier on the eyes than a ridiculously over-designed piece of scrap.
@_Fornad
@_Fornad 8 лет назад
+Gustav Hagberg Agreed. The swords from the LotR movies are pieces of art.
@pandaphil
@pandaphil 8 лет назад
That's why I have so much respect for the folks over at Wetta.
@Sparks52
@Sparks52 7 лет назад
What would be the best weapon to defend against dozens of dwarves suddenly invading your home unannounced, uninvited and ravenously consuming all your food?
@undertakernumberone1
@undertakernumberone1 7 лет назад
let them continue and try to convince them to sing you a nice song
@austinjalbert
@austinjalbert 7 лет назад
jlind52 a dragon XD
@CataStudies
@CataStudies 7 лет назад
jlind52 free beer
@Peteru69
@Peteru69 7 лет назад
A good study lock.
@alienplatypus7712
@alienplatypus7712 7 лет назад
jlind52 I assume you mean which medieval weapon? Otherwise I doubt an AK-47 would have any problems.
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 3 года назад
Here is why this video you have made is useful: it shows that you can make beautiful, exotic swords for a fantasy movie and they don't have to be nonsense. Movie-makers, you don't have to choose between cool and practical. The LOTR movies show that you can have both. And that, Skallagrim, means that you have done a good thing. Thank you.
@Blacklightprince
@Blacklightprince 2 года назад
Lad myth can be… well let’s just say bizarre
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 2 года назад
@@Blacklightprince Lad myth?
@Blacklightprince
@Blacklightprince 2 года назад
@@SailorBarsoom I am not sure if I understand?
@SailorBarsoom
@SailorBarsoom 2 года назад
@@Blacklightprince You commented "Lad myth can be… well let’s just say bizarre" which I'm sure would make perfect sense to me if I knew what "lad myth" was. So I guess I'm pleading ignorance.
@Blacklightprince
@Blacklightprince 2 года назад
@@SailorBarsoom perhaps ya heard of sentences like “dude myth is my favorite” all sentences can start with “you” “they” or “he” or even like man or lad but ya probably never heard of lad haven’t thou?
@madslybk377
@madslybk377 4 года назад
Its a Morgul Blade wielded by a Nazgul that wouldnt need such "protection"
@antonioenglish8732
@antonioenglish8732 3 года назад
Ok but, why having a hand guard at all then?
@silviafox78
@silviafox78 3 года назад
@@antonioenglish8732 - It was a cursed dagger used by a wraith, which cannot be killed with conventional weapons (unless you are a bearer of the vagene). It's weapons are physical and can be blocked, so in order to inflict damage (it is a one-time use weapon, as the blade disappears after stabbing) you would need to avoid anything that catches or interrupts its traversal towards the intended target as it would hinder it's effectiveness. The backwards hilt allows defendants weapon to glance/slide off of it, maybe scraping the wraith (which is not a big deal when someone uses a non-magical sword or whatever on an undead half-ethereal being) but still allowing to strike the target. Besides this weapon was designed to turn mortals into wraiths, so it didn't need any potential countermeasures as a back weapon for defense, be it as a sword breaker, parrying dagger and etc. But if it wasn't a magical poison device for turning someone undead by a ghost-like phantom, it would certainly suck and be uncomfortable to wield as balls.
@antonioenglish8732
@antonioenglish8732 3 года назад
@@silviafox78 Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain it. It makes sense now.
@silviafox78
@silviafox78 3 года назад
@@antonioenglish8732 ~You're Welcome!~
@zebymtojawiedzia6724
@zebymtojawiedzia6724 3 года назад
@@antonioenglish8732 they didnt use this daggers in combat, they have swords Its something like poisoned dagger
@mermaidman961
@mermaidman961 6 лет назад
Fun fact, Jackson actually wanted the witch King’s flail to be bigger than that.
@toonbat
@toonbat 6 лет назад
Epic flail?
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 5 лет назад
Extra fact: The flail is named Damn Heavy.
@cameronmccoy5051
@cameronmccoy5051 5 лет назад
toonbat very nice, I literally laughed out loud.
@isitnotwrittenthat1680
@isitnotwrittenthat1680 5 лет назад
Holy crap
@TheMHB199
@TheMHB199 5 лет назад
@@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm surprised it wasn't called Hugh Mungus...But then every snowflake would get triggered...
@AceWolf456
@AceWolf456 8 лет назад
I don't know, man. I know you're not huge on the "is this weapon practical" type questions but as someone who is a fan of swords, but doesn't know all too much about them, I am a big fan of hearing you talk about designs that are abnormal but still work practically.
@eanaz79
@eanaz79 8 лет назад
I would like to hear more about those weird looking historical swords.
@dim_reapa8977
@dim_reapa8977 8 лет назад
+DHG x Ace Wolf Agreed. I know Skallagrim says he feels he made a boring video, but it's nice to see the contrast between the fantasy/film swords he slates and ones that are good. It gives him a chance to talk about good design, which I find just as interesting. Sure, it's fun poking holes in stuff, but either way it's always educational. I think that is broadly what attracts most of his audience anyway. I'll add a +1 to eanaz79 as well. I too would like to hear more about odd historical designs.
@konialis45
@konialis45 8 лет назад
+Ant Loughlin Same here. Personally i would really like to hear about flamberges. Most notably i would like to know whether it's pronounced as "flamberg" or "flamberj" :)
@mumfol4791
@mumfol4791 8 лет назад
+konialis45 Probably flamberg, it's from switzerland, where they speak german.
@Seegras
@Seegras 8 лет назад
+Mumfol Dingzzzda Yes, and in german it's actually "Flammberge" with two "m"s, and it comes with a pronounced "e" at the end (even in english). But the origin could also be french.
@bretthines1020
@bretthines1020 Год назад
The Uruk-Hai sword is like an AK47: requires less formal training, rugged, works every time. The barb could be useful for unhorsing a rider. Great channel!
@gaiuscaligula2229
@gaiuscaligula2229 4 года назад
The Uruk-hai cleavers seem quite reasonable weapons to me, with the cleaver side for chopping through flesh and the point on the reverse for piercing armour.
@ms9404
@ms9404 8 лет назад
I think the witch king's weapon was purely for his pleasure because no man could kill him thus defeating the need for a practical weapon. He probably also didn't expect to find any expert swordswomen either. It is a ridiculous weapon though
@Unseenarchivist
@Unseenarchivist 8 лет назад
I can see that "I don't have to try so i'm gonna swing a giant death ball around to illustrate the sheer lack of any fucks i give for your oh so noble swordsmanship"
@ms9404
@ms9404 8 лет назад
+TheAlbion 😂😂 you just perfected what I was trying to say!
@imperialityofserbia5138
@imperialityofserbia5138 8 лет назад
Well you know ... when you are thousands and thousand of years old - you have a lot of time to train .
@ms9404
@ms9404 8 лет назад
+IMPERIALITY of Serbia true haha but I still like to think it's because since he's almost completely invincible (lethally allergic to shield-maidens) he's just using it for fun ;)
@andyappleton3353
@andyappleton3353 8 лет назад
And a ridiculous end for him too. "I'm not a man". Proceeds to kill him easily. So awful.
@themiller3940
@themiller3940 5 лет назад
Orks respect their choppas. Wait wrong thing
@AstrumG2V
@AstrumG2V 5 лет назад
DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKwaitwut?
@javiermartinez664
@javiermartinez664 4 года назад
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhh
@Julius55555
@Julius55555 4 года назад
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH
@zero5496
@zero5496 3 года назад
Ya gitz not fancy da choppaz aye? I rekkin ya neez sum gud choppin! Waaaaagh!
@joeyawiki3315
@joeyawiki3315 3 года назад
@Roboute Guilliman YA, blue git umie won't stand a chance against OUR WAAAAAAAAGH
@Unknown-eg5xz
@Unknown-eg5xz 4 года назад
I just found out in my Norwegian class that Skallagrim was a legendary chieftain in ancient times
@darrianz639
@darrianz639 3 года назад
Skallagrim: "No one would really find this interesting..." At least 85K other people: "Hmm... Interesting."
@EuphoricDan
@EuphoricDan 7 лет назад
The Witch King's morning star is pretty obviously absurdly effective *if* you are strong enough to swing the 100-150lb ball around. Obviously no actual person (other than Chuck Norris) would be capable of fighting with it; however assuming enough strength (Can we assume that the Witch King didn't have normal human constraints on strength?) you could easily mow people down with it and there is virtually no armor or fighting technique that could save you from a 150lb spiked ball of steel on a chain being whipped at you.
@9limpen6
@9limpen6 6 лет назад
Only a shield made of wood.
@jbartnik1918
@jbartnik1918 6 лет назад
IDK, with a chain that long, anything short of helicoptering at super-high, nearly uncontrollable speeds would leave you exposed. Also probably huge risk of killing yourself with it.
@notalive5479
@notalive5479 6 лет назад
That's why he has the sword, which balances it out. If you stay out of reach of the sword, he can use the star, if you try to get close, he can use the sword. Being swarmed by a group? Swing the 150 lb ball of death and decimate the entire group.
@jwenting
@jwenting 6 лет назад
Correct. The weight of the thing isn't the problem per se, given that here we have a guy with super human characteristics. It's the physics that make it not work. For a weight that large you need a much longer chain to control its momentum effectively, and that makes it much harder to control (you need to slowly increase and decrease the speed of the swing to keep the chain more or less straight, or you end up with an uncontrollable spiky ball of steel whipping through the air in every which direction, most likely directly at your own head or legs).
@kylecoucke943
@kylecoucke943 6 лет назад
CaptainDuckman well, I think the point is he uses that weapon because he can't die basically. Unless the ring is destroyed he'll just be banished for a lil bit until he comes back. So since he's this ghost in a black cloak riding a dragon with an army of orcs at his back, he could probably assume that most people won't be challenging HIM to many duels. And he does have a sword. And since he was once a king you could assume he's probably fairly skilled. I'm sure he wasn't finessing people with his chain ball, it's a weapon that suits the character really,
@HyuLilium
@HyuLilium 8 лет назад
The witch king's flail looked awesome as fuck though
@jorgenschroen5440
@jorgenschroen5440 8 лет назад
+dragonrasp very practical? in the movie he still doesnt wield it very well with super strenght.
@Gabu_
@Gabu_ 8 лет назад
+Jorgen Schroen Maybe because it's a human actor?
@balduran.
@balduran. 8 лет назад
+dragonrasp no matter how strong you are, focusing the force into smaller head would be more practical and did more damage
@kalinmir
@kalinmir 8 лет назад
+dragonrasp you will not fool gravity with superhuman strenght
@BillRoyMcBill
@BillRoyMcBill 8 лет назад
+celroid532 It looks like a jagged steel chandelier...nobody walks away from having that drop on you.
@coops3600
@coops3600 4 года назад
Isn’t the witch king’s mace not a mace but a flail? Lol
@ChickSage
@ChickSage 4 года назад
Yep
@ChickSage
@ChickSage 4 года назад
@Axel Genereux It would definitely be impractical for me. Seems to work okay for the witch king, though.
@nelly5954
@nelly5954 4 года назад
the terms are fairly interchangeable
@coops3600
@coops3600 4 года назад
@Axel Genereux It's impractical because of how much it would weigh. If you had the godlike strength to actually lift and swing the thing like the witch king does it'd be practical as fuck lmao
@ChickSage
@ChickSage 4 года назад
@@nelly5954 I think a flail has a chain, while a mace does not.
@G1NZOU
@G1NZOU 3 года назад
I think my favourite sword is Aragorn's Ranger sword, it looks incredibly practical, well taken care of, and has a nice practical utility blade in the sheath too for eating, skinning animals and food prep.
@Altar360
@Altar360 7 лет назад
They generally work in a practical sense because one of the conceptual artists, John Howe, is a hardcore ancient weaponry and armor enthusiast. He was very anal in having the weapons and armor seem efficient and practical. The guys at Weta Workshop have anecdotes on how he changed their views on armor and weapons completely. The first bits of concept art before John Howe's involvement were very Dungeons and Dragons-ish
@joshuaclare4860
@joshuaclare4860 6 лет назад
Altar360 This is a very well organised and well structured comment! But still hehe you said anal
@tximistarissole
@tximistarissole 6 лет назад
That's really cool!
@apachebeard952
@apachebeard952 6 лет назад
Anal. Hahahaha.
@apachebeard952
@apachebeard952 6 лет назад
Just childish humour, pls don't hate
@codypettigrew9972
@codypettigrew9972 6 лет назад
It was 4 sentences and you praise it for being well structured? Lmao how stupid are you to think one paragraph is tantamount to perfection?
@thepraetorian6057
@thepraetorian6057 5 лет назад
Lotr is one of those fantasy’s that have realistic swords
@allennyros1527
@allennyros1527 5 лет назад
Castles are based off realistic design as well, right?
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass 5 лет назад
I had a chance to hold a replica of Hadhafang in a store at Baybrook Mall in Houston, man....that thing felt so right. The right weight, the right balance, down to the last gram. You know....now that I think about it....I wonder if that might not have been the REAL Hadhafang? (j/k...still, a Man can dream, right?)
@danbell3827
@danbell3827 5 лет назад
And not just realistic, but each suits the style of the character using it, or who made it, perfectly. Small, fast blades for the elves, broadswords or longswords for humans, the shortswords as a defensive weapon for hobbits, etc
@Dracomandriuthus
@Dracomandriuthus 4 года назад
PJ tried to keep things mostly grounded
@sailor5853
@sailor5853 4 года назад
One of the serious ones yes
@McGrewer
@McGrewer 4 года назад
The dagger one kind of makes sense a little. The backwards guard helps you push the dagger in deeper for more fatal stabbing. Which is nice for a usually stabbing weapon. But yes, a normal guard for parrying would be nicer for the layman.
@K.Adler1120
@K.Adler1120 3 года назад
I own Hadhafang, and it so far has been the easiest sword to control for me personally and still looks beautiful
@TheArzonite
@TheArzonite 8 лет назад
If I'm not mistaken, the backspike of Uruk-Hai swords was to grab onto horsemen so they would fall off their horses.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 8 лет назад
+TheArzonite Not the most practical use of the spike.
@billwithers7457
@billwithers7457 8 лет назад
+Timothy McLean Yeah, that would make more sense if it were a hook, but a triangular spike is going to do just over nil for hooking a horseman off his horse. It makes infinitely more sense as an anti-armor design, especially given their use of pikes for countering cavalry.
@elgostine
@elgostine 8 лет назад
+bill withers it was meant for armour ( i read it in a book produced by the studio, written by the weta workshop guys where they go through the designs of the armour and weapons and their intended purposes
@KainYusanagi
@KainYusanagi 8 лет назад
+bill withers Not if you think of it as slamming the spike into the rider and using it to then yank the rider off their horse.
@billwithers7457
@billwithers7457 8 лет назад
***** Except that a triangular profile spike is still going to be complete shit at that, since they generally come out most easily. More over, if you're hitting them hard enough to provide that level of pull, you're probably just going to kill them anyway. Plus it makes zero sense to send swordsmen against cavalry when you have shit tons of pikes right there...
@genepozniak
@genepozniak 8 лет назад
The Witch King's chain flail wouldn't work for a human, but a super-strong magical being could wield it just fine. :-)
@s.k.8263
@s.k.8263 8 лет назад
I think there is still a problem with the handle being too small for the enormous head, but otherwise you're right. I think there are a few people in the world who could master it just fine.
@aduboo29
@aduboo29 8 лет назад
The ridiculous element more comes from it being... well, totally unnecessary. It doesn't need to be that big to kill anything the Witch King would fight. 'Tis literally a tool for dick measuring, regardless of whether his fancy magic super strength lets him use it.
@OperationZulu506
@OperationZulu506 8 лет назад
+aduboo29 there's no point in it being smaller than necessary. Blunt force weapons inflict damage based on the force used to swing. The heavier the striking section the more momentum and centripedal force you can generate. So make it as heavy as you can handle and being 9ft tall demon monster he can handle it. So just like Sauron's mace it can smash through dozens of soldiers at once, shatter shields and like stone as well.
@Cemtexify
@Cemtexify 8 лет назад
I reckon there's a guy who could wield that in real life, if you don't know who I mean let's just say he raped her and killed her children
@genepozniak
@genepozniak 8 лет назад
Turtles No idea. I was thinking the winner of the world's strongest man contest, but he's nice.
@jaksantio1441
@jaksantio1441 4 года назад
For what it amounts to i am still appreciative that you took the time to make this video for your veiwers. Thanks!
@acorgiwithacrown467
@acorgiwithacrown467 3 года назад
That orc sword is kind of genius, they don't take care of their weapons but it doesn't matter because if it blunts then they can just use the back spike until they get a chance to sharpen it.
@impaeratorae6766
@impaeratorae6766 8 лет назад
The Morgul Blade isn't meant for sword fighting, the Nazgul has a longsword for that. It is simply to inflict the wound that transforms the victim into one of them. Also, I think the little spikes on the 2 could actually catch another weapon...
@impaeratorae6766
@impaeratorae6766 8 лет назад
I mean on the blade and Evenstar's sword.
@asayospacegoat6384
@asayospacegoat6384 8 лет назад
By that logic, though, the Morgul blade shouldn't bother with a guard. If it's going to have one, it may as well have a proper deflecting guard--or, perhaps if we're going by the whole transformation thing, maybe the guard should be designed to trap the blade in some way. Besides, after all the yes's, I think there needed to be something to fill the criticism gap.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 8 лет назад
+AsayoSpaceGoat the guard is just there so the Witch King can stab his prey and keep the blade well inside. a guardless dagger is not very firm
@climbscience4813
@climbscience4813 8 лет назад
I think they made the guard point down to allow for the whole blade to enter the body. I mean, it's a magical weapon turning someone into a wraith by means of having the blade remain in the body. So, maybe for large foes it's important that the entire blade can enter the body. So, given the fact that it's a double edged dagger and that on the side to the front it has an advantage to have a guard, they at least wanted to have some kind of guard while not defeating the purpose of the dagger.
@FirstLast-lr3ht
@FirstLast-lr3ht 7 лет назад
+ClimbingCalisthenics still doesn't make sense as to why the gaird was facing the wrong way though
@AnnaMarianne
@AnnaMarianne 7 лет назад
Arwen's sword is designed to be used on horseback. It's inspired by the Shaska, the sword of the Cossacks, among others.
@randyslobojan5763
@randyslobojan5763 6 лет назад
Anna Marianne I'm a cossack descendent. Havent seen much mention of the blades. Odd the he doesnt mention much about the handle to blade angle. I feel that it implies a slightly different style of combat emphasizing using the end of the blade in an almost strictly slashing fashion. On horseback it would devasting. Even on light armor the blade almost hooks into the target.
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 6 лет назад
im mortal This isn't Russia so whether this word has an extra "h" has little importance
@phony1551
@phony1551 6 лет назад
Yes hs are very muc not important, tey are a useless letter that can be stricken from the alpabet as all words would still be very understandable wit out tem. Your argument is sound and very well tought out. I agree one undred percent
@ArgentumEmperio
@ArgentumEmperio 6 лет назад
im mortal I thought I should mention this: my girlfriend is learning swedish and called me a whore accidentally. I laughed it off but I suspect that you would go ballistic. Think about that for a bit.
@phony1551
@phony1551 6 лет назад
I ope you know wat I am getting at by leaving h's out of my speec, letters are very important in modern langauge as tey can make a whole paragrap unreadable wit out tem Do you get it now?
@Judge_Jon
@Judge_Jon 4 года назад
Anduril is a beautiful sword. Only think I'd change is it would be nice to have the leather wrap down further.
@Possum880
@Possum880 4 года назад
I always loved the design of the Uruk-hai machete, always stood out to me
@JCSalomon
@JCSalomon 8 лет назад
The orcish sword is called a scimitar because Tolkien called it that: it’s the sword designers that chose an un-scimitar-ish pattern. The hobbit’s swords were not made for them: Sting was found in a troll-hoard and the other blades in a dead king’s barrow. They’re making do with what they can find that fits their hands, which means repurposing what to a Man would be a knife.
@gabrielrangel956
@gabrielrangel956 8 лет назад
It's also mainly for defence, a hobbit is not supposed to fight.
@MyMagicCookie6
@MyMagicCookie6 8 лет назад
+Gabriel Rangel it would definitely be hard to be a thief with a giant shield and pole arm in hand
@azuredragneal1685
@azuredragneal1685 8 лет назад
They look nothing like a scimitar xD like scall said there basicly machetes xD
@BenniBodinJagell
@BenniBodinJagell 8 лет назад
Knife in this case=long dagger
@Alex_Fahey
@Alex_Fahey 8 лет назад
+Azure Wrath Those images came from the directors head (or whoever is in charge of their props). They are probably not what the author intended the scimitar to look like.
@bronynexgen
@bronynexgen 7 лет назад
but could you throw the pommel, thus ending the Nazgûl rightly?
@garrythomas492
@garrythomas492 6 лет назад
Unfunny
@bladewolfvii6383
@bladewolfvii6383 6 лет назад
Garry Thomas The comment was made when the meme was still fresh. cut him some slack. I never liked it to beginn with, but I don't laugh about many things in general.
@wheelslifts851
@wheelslifts851 6 лет назад
Wild animal molester like the dude before said. He did this when it was not old yet. Maybe he really thought it was funny.. one could argue that you have no space to talk to him about bieng unoriginal or overuse of a bad joke, but look at your name. If it was intended to be funny, it's not. You have no room to insult people with that shit.
@kurozarus8096
@kurozarus8096 6 лет назад
Shut up? They're not speaking, my good sir Simon, they're typing.
@markamanic
@markamanic 6 лет назад
If you throw Stings pommel you would only end him slightly
@ladyattis
@ladyattis 2 года назад
Arwen's sword reminds me of a rose twig with the two small spikes really looking like thorns. I think that's the aesthetic they wanted to go with along with it invoking perhaps the idea of a cavalry officer's sword with the smooth arc in it.
@artdent9871
@artdent9871 4 года назад
The Uruk Hai machetes with the 90° spike at the end struck me as very useful. The spike could pull shields out of position or pierce plate armour. Shields needed with no hand guard tho, agreed.
@AndyRoidEU
@AndyRoidEU 5 лет назад
00:39: "Frankly, I think its not gonna be all that good." You're very right, just 2.5+ million views, man, nothing extraordinary.
@phillipmele8533
@phillipmele8533 4 года назад
By time of my writing this reply, the video has passed just over three million views. People like Lord of the Rings. :D
@omokok1877
@omokok1877 4 года назад
over the course of 3 years for you
@SZRLM
@SZRLM 3 года назад
View don't mean quality content. Basically the motto of RU-vid.
@AndyRoidEU
@AndyRoidEU 3 года назад
@@SZRLM It means money though (if owned by the user)
@Mrm3t21
@Mrm3t21 3 года назад
I think we all learned a lesson here
@robertshein7744
@robertshein7744 8 лет назад
The back spike on the Ork machete is designed to hook riders off their horses
@arcticshocked
@arcticshocked 8 лет назад
it doesn't matter, skall mentioning a potential use for the spike doesn't automatically throw away all other potential uses for it.
@FirstLast-lr3ht
@FirstLast-lr3ht 7 лет назад
that doesn't mean it's all it can be used for
@MrDavidKord
@MrDavidKord 7 лет назад
The sword should honestly be a little bigger to be taking riders off of horses, but I do understand the concept.
@Stripedbottom
@Stripedbottom 7 лет назад
I highly doubt it. The weapon is one-handed and simply does not have enough reach. Compare to the japanese no-dachi (a massive sword-shaped club, if you like) for example, which is a sword meant, among other uses, for de-horsing an opponent. All other spiked de-horsing weapons, such as the halberd, always have distinctly long shafts for this purpose. Did you know BTW, that the spike in medieval times was not really meant for killing or incapacitating a mounted opponent, but rather for pulling a heavily armoured knight from his mount (or even to grapple & pull him down as he was standing on the ground) so that he could then be disarmed, taken prisoner and ransomed after the battle? Nobody wants to kill a goose that lays golden eggs... I think this is simply conjecture from the fact that the machete in question does have a spike and that some other weapons with such a spike were used for de-horsing an opponent. But my bet is that the spike was meant for the other mentioned purpose (armour penetration when fighting heavily armoured opponents) or even as a tool for some other completely different purpose.
@MrDavidKord
@MrDavidKord 7 лет назад
Stripedbottom Ever heard of a trench spike? That's what this reminds me of. Made for piercing helmets and other heavily armored spots. I agree with your assessment, that's what I meant by bigger. The larger swords some of the huge Uruk-hai had would function better for that purpose.
@Zanshin001
@Zanshin001 4 года назад
dang Skal you are awesome. You should do some tours for events or something. Would be cool to meet you!
@gentlemanjaxx
@gentlemanjaxx 4 года назад
Would’ve been interesting if we got a look into the Easterlings weapons. They were the ones to use scimitars for sure, along with halberds and axes. On top of that, gave both the Elves and Numenoreans a run for their money in battle.
@gauvainmalefant9873
@gauvainmalefant9873 7 лет назад
Urukaï sword is often called "scimitar" because Orcs and Uruks actually use scimitars in the books, and not those machetes - probably created in the show just to get along with the Uruk style of armor
@TheBudderWizard
@TheBudderWizard 6 лет назад
Gauvain Maléfant exactly. Whatever the weapon is called is usually because of the name in the book. With the exception being (maybe) hadhafang.
@TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta
@TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta 6 лет назад
I think the correct term for that kind of weapon is a "falchion"
@KyleCorbeau
@KyleCorbeau 6 лет назад
Last Gunfighter It definitely looks like it based off a falchion but the hooked tip definitely throws the base design a curve ball.
@BigBWolf90
@BigBWolf90 6 лет назад
well if you look at the Orcs, not the Uruk-hai, the do wield large Scimitar-esque looking blades. If I had to compare it to something it would be like a slightly trimmed down, more brutish & more fantasy designed version of that over sized Scimitar from Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark
@BarryMichaels
@BarryMichaels 6 лет назад
ozh Alex It wasn't that anti-asian, the easterlings were even said to be the greatest opponent, fighting to the last man
@dradamov
@dradamov 5 лет назад
7:14 I think despite the very spot-on criticism, the design of this dagger seems to be exactly right for its intended use. It was a cursed dagger used by a wraith, which cannot be killed with conventional weapons (unless you are a bearer of the vagene). It's weapons are physical, can be blocked, so in order to inflict damage (it is a one-time use weapon, as the blade disappears after stabbing) anything that catches, interrupts its traversal towards intended target would hinder it's effectiveness. Backwards hilt allows defendants weapon to glance/slide off of it, maybe scraping the wraith (which is not a big deal when someone uses a non-magical sword or whatever on an undead half-ethereal being) but still allowing to strike the target. Besides this weapon was designed to turn mortals into wraiths, so it didn't need any potential countermeasures as a back weapon for defense (be it as a sword breaker, parrying dagger or sth). But if it wasn't a magical poison device for turning someone undead by a ghost-like phantom, it would certainly suck and be uncomfortable to wield as balls.
@youngwarrior1985
@youngwarrior1985 5 лет назад
dradamov good analysis, it’s definitely designed with a specific purpose in mind that’s in line with the lore surrounding it.
@possemis
@possemis 4 года назад
eowyn was not able to kill the WK because of her vagene but because merry stabbed him in the leg with a magical blade that was made to kill/harm the WK which was given to the hobbits by tom bombadil who had found them in the barrows when they where captured by a barrow wight in the first books.
@willemboele2079
@willemboele2079 4 года назад
@@possemis learn to make proper scentences. your comment is unreadable.
@possemis
@possemis 4 года назад
@@willemboele2079 LEarN tO mAKe pRoPer SCenTenCes mmUUUHHHH.... this is youtube so i am not even going to bother to check my spelling. maybe you should learn to stop being a grammar nazi, nobody likes grammar nazi's. have a good day.
@willemboele2079
@willemboele2079 4 года назад
@@possemis "i'm not going to bother to check my spelling" good luck getting a job.
@BAsgeirr
@BAsgeirr 3 года назад
Good, it is always good to hear more opinions on things it helps us with enriching our perspective on the world around us and on how different people think and reach their conclusions. Edit: grammar.
@trailerparkwerewolf910
@trailerparkwerewolf910 4 года назад
Sting I heard was actually based on a long dagger that many British troops used in the trenches of WW1 that had a leaf like blade. Tolkien of course would’ve had first hand experience. The Uruk Hai sword gets called a scimitar because in the books the Uruk were said to have carried scimitars
@halafradrimx
@halafradrimx 8 лет назад
Happy holidays? Fuck that, just say Merry Christmas.
@CopernicoTube
@CopernicoTube 8 лет назад
Skall doesn't have just christian followers.
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 8 лет назад
+halafradrimx I say whatever I want. :p
@halafradrimx
@halafradrimx 8 лет назад
***** Other than Christmas, what holiday happens during December 25th? Since you are a logical fellow, I presume you will present me a valid point to why not rather say Merry Christmas instead.
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 8 лет назад
+halafradrimx Would you also try to argue that an axe should not be called a tool? Seriously, this is silly. It's a holiday season and not everyone celebrates christmas, while many people with other religions have other festivities during this time, so saying happy holidays makes perfect sense.
@halafradrimx
@halafradrimx 8 лет назад
***** Tell me one religious event, other than the celebration of christ, that happens during 25th. P.S : I am a pagan.
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 8 лет назад
Ok, someone has to say it: The Witcher weapons scrutinized?
@kamilszadkowski8864
@kamilszadkowski8864 8 лет назад
***** Yes, I know, but in these videos I'm more interested in Skall analysis and comparison to historical weapons. It's just fun
@StirbMensch
@StirbMensch 8 лет назад
+Kamil Szadkowski Well first off someone would have to point out that the "silver swords" were not actually forged out of silver, but coated in it - because who the hell would actually want a sword made completely out of silver? Furthermore, as FuckYouGoogle already stated, they're mostly historical designs. What would be more interesting would be for Skallagrim to look both at TW1/TW2/TW3 gameplay AND cinematics and comment a bit on the Witcher fighting style (although I recall he already did bash the whole "pirhouette, spinning and dancing" part)
@Grendich
@Grendich 8 лет назад
+Kamil Szadkowski oh please yes, i would love to watch that. witcher 2 had some really cool looking weapons
@prospero768
@prospero768 8 лет назад
+StirbMensch Well, to the fighting style, I rather suspect they were trying to be faithful to the book. In which Sapowski, by his own admission, just took random terms out of a fencing glossary and strung them together into a description.
@GamePhysics
@GamePhysics 8 лет назад
+Kamil Szadkowski Same thing for The Witcher. The swords are nice and practical, just like these.
@rodache7200
@rodache7200 4 года назад
I love your vids, they are interesting and entertaining, and they help me to sleep
@juttley
@juttley 4 года назад
This was the first Skall video I ever watched all those years ago. Just showed up in my feed again.
@weeamood9615
@weeamood9615 8 лет назад
Bloodborne weapons scrutinized? Would be hilarious.
@filthydaemonspawn1206
@filthydaemonspawn1206 8 лет назад
Would be, except for Ludwigs Holy Blade... It could work, wouldn't be very practical unless your a hunter.
@khaorix2667
@khaorix2667 8 лет назад
+Rage Angel I don't even think of Ludwig's blade as practical. The small sword in this and the Kirkhammer are the only weapons from the game I would use in an actual fight. Maybe the Moolight Greatsword from the DLC as well? But it's awesome as fuck, though. Excellent game, cool stuff.
@QwertyBoredom122
@QwertyBoredom122 8 лет назад
+T. Mood Pretty sure thats a conclusive not any chance in hell, only weapons coming close would be the sword part of the Kirk Hammer and Ludwig's.
@kalinmir
@kalinmir 8 лет назад
+QwertyBoredom122 riflespear too...?
@QwertyBoredom122
@QwertyBoredom122 8 лет назад
Kalinmir Too many moving parts, also the spear head would be at risk of breaking off, same with the Reiterpallasch. Chikage would probably be practical now that I think about it since its basically just a Katana.
@Ottuln
@Ottuln 8 лет назад
You obviously didn't watch the documentary portion of the Extended Editions; they would have been the best resource for you on this. The swords in the Lord of the Rings are all functional swords made by Peter Lyon, a swordsmith and armorer, and each culture has a different real-world cultural basis for their designs. Sstaff would take some of the swords he made for the film out into the parking lot and do HEMA practice with them. Finely balanced, and beautifully crafted, they were really impressive weapons, not just as props.
@ethandonnelly1973
@ethandonnelly1973 8 лет назад
He was answering numerous requests about the weapons in the series that he already knew the answer to. He just elaborated for the sake of the people that wanted a vid about this.
@zeldafan3135
@zeldafan3135 7 лет назад
YOU obviously didn't watch the video, for the majority of the swords he says they were well designed and practical. He even notices some possible inspirations they had.
@RowanBuchananroabie
@RowanBuchananroabie 7 лет назад
He literally said these were all practical swords and had real world inspirations.
@RowanBuchananroabie
@RowanBuchananroabie 7 лет назад
***** The swords were all practical.
@RowanBuchananroabie
@RowanBuchananroabie 7 лет назад
***** Yeah he made a remark about it at the end.
@alexandergriffin7794
@alexandergriffin7794 3 года назад
I do enjoy how the film showed the mace's impracticality as well though. Slow and easy to dodge, but if you miss a step, completely undeniably devastating. It would have done a fine job of instilling fear on the battlefield, and I think it's important to have some of that mind game
@nunyaasher7402
@nunyaasher7402 4 года назад
As far as the dagger is concerned, there's a good way to optimize the inverted hilt. Use the opposite hand of your opponent, and go in for a strike. If they try to deflect your sword, you let it go down the outer edge, past the guard, and the dagger at that point is in your target's gut.
@marielleforgotmylastname8282
@marielleforgotmylastname8282 6 лет назад
The mace would actually make sense. It was made for the wraith dudes, who were probably pretty damn strong.
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 6 лет назад
The problem is, a flail that large and heavy would generate WAY more force than you'd expect when you swung it. Skal and others cover this more when they talk about why super-strong individuals wouldn't need massive swords, but because of how momentum works, a body that could resist being torn in half from the force of all that mass swinging would be able to both A. Utilize a normally-sized weapon with even MORE force and B. Take hits from mountain-sized comets falling from the sky without flinching.
@joshpittman3176
@joshpittman3176 5 лет назад
@@sterlingmuse5808 he's a ghost bro a demonic mage at that really anything is fine it's a flail you flail it around hit random shit he's fine.
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 5 лет назад
@@joshpittman3176 That is a good point
@matthewmcnamara2306
@matthewmcnamara2306 5 лет назад
@@sterlingmuse5808 couple of issues with that. But the main thing is. Let's just say you are right. I can wave a giant ass flail around at the same speed as the average man can use a normal flail. Theoretically if I lift a normal flail its reduced point of contact and increased speed would make it more dangerous to use. But the issue may in fact be this, would a standard flail be able to handle travelling at the much increased speeds? Especially a flail made by the orcs who's work was functional but not exactly the highest caliber. The chain links would most likely snap. So then the chain must be thickened. That damages the balance. So the ball must be made heavier. And so on and so forth until you find a flail that can handle the strength you put into it and moves at the highest speed possible without breaking. For all we know. The flail TWK uses is his compromise between speed and power.
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 5 лет назад
Matthew Mcnamara A heavier flail would have even more mass though - and thus, even MORE force applied directly to the handle and chain, meaning it would break MORE easily. Making the chain thicker only works for so long; eventually the weight of the ball and the associated force would overcome any benefit a thicker chain would give you. AND, all that force would also be applied on the person HOLDING the flail as well. Hence needed to be very durable to wield it, almost durable enough that you could just run around punching people and get a similar effect. There's also a thing called the square/cube law. When you make an object larger, it's mass doesn't get squared, like width times length. It gets cubed - width times length times height. Say you have a 2 pound block. If you make the block twice as big, it doesn't become a 4 pound block, it becomes an 8 pound block. *Because of that, increasing the size also increases the weight and force on the wielder exponentially.*
@stolenname94
@stolenname94 8 лет назад
is souls level 120 with a strength build good enough to wield sarouns mace?
@dondonnysson4973
@dondonnysson4973 8 лет назад
+James Somogyi I reckon you'd need at least 50 strength to wield that
@stolenname94
@stolenname94 8 лет назад
Fucking sweet dude thanks
@mr420quickscops2
@mr420quickscops2 8 лет назад
+James Somogyi You'd need a maximum of 8 intelligence also, because, well, yeah
@thegamesforreal1673
@thegamesforreal1673 8 лет назад
+James Somogyi dark souls 3 actually has a nice mace that looks a lot like saurons... Try farming the large knights in the Cathedral of the Deep with the mace weapons. It's not a very good weapon though, it's probably one of the worst greatmaces.
@stolenname94
@stolenname94 8 лет назад
Im all about the demon great axe that thing is a monster perfect for destroying clusters of summons with it weapon art
@stevenwilson5556
@stevenwilson5556 4 года назад
What made this video work is that you went over all the different named blades in the film and described each one with some detailed explanations and examples. Not boring at all to me. As of Aug 2019, there's 69k up, 2k down votes, and 2.8 million views. I'd say this video was both well recieved and popular. Your fans were right to ask you to do it.
@ericcartrette6118
@ericcartrette6118 4 года назад
For the first time ever, I just noticed something about the Witch King's mace. If you cut off the ball and chain then spin the handle around, the pommel could become the mace head and it would be more effective.
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
@Vikingr4Jesus5919 5 лет назад
Why is Sting included? It's barely a sword, more like a letter opener really. LOL, sorry, couldn't resist xD
@Robert_Douglass
@Robert_Douglass 5 лет назад
Plus it wasn't always named Sting. It certainly wasn't called anything like that in the days of Gondolin. I'd like to read the tale that tells how these weapons survived the War of Wrath and found their way into Eriador.
@1101millie97
@1101millie97 4 года назад
To an elf or a dunedain, sure. But like the guy says, to a hobbit it’s not unlike Greek or Roman sword of the ancients, which makes sense given they were originally forged by the Eldar in the First Age in Beleriand.
@LazyYes
@LazyYes 4 года назад
Makes more sense than a flail/mace haha
@strider04
@strider04 4 года назад
@@Robert_Douglass they were capture by hill trolls that took them to where they are now. That is the only explanation given
@Vikingr4Jesus5919
@Vikingr4Jesus5919 3 года назад
@Wraith Gaming Heh, thanks.
@aethertech
@aethertech 8 лет назад
LOTR = Perfect Hobbit Trilogy = Absolute Shit.
@Krezmick
@Krezmick 8 лет назад
+aethertech What was Peter thinking!?
@aethertech
@aethertech 8 лет назад
Akira3C "Can I get away with 99% CGI in this franchise? it's still Tolkien, obviously the consumers will eat it up no matter how bad it is, how many plot wholes and continuity errors there are and many extra shit characters I stuff in there! Hey, I'm just like Lucas!"
@sirconstantine8329
@sirconstantine8329 8 лет назад
+aethertech Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I read somewhere that Jackson also brought Kit Rae on board to design the Dwarvish weapons. If that's the case it also explains why the Dwarvish weapons were so out of place and poor looking.
@GovnaBuckingham
@GovnaBuckingham 8 лет назад
+aethertech people often argue with me that the hobbit sucked but then peter said in an interview that they totally half assed the hobbit
@aethertech
@aethertech 8 лет назад
The_Reginald Which translates to, it sucked.
@alexdukec.7551
@alexdukec.7551 3 года назад
5:51 i could FEEL the pain in his voice. This man loves his guards
@amazoniancustodian
@amazoniancustodian 3 года назад
Dude, I’m happy I found your channel
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 8 лет назад
Well, I'm not going to read all 4,272 comments, so if someone's already covered this, please forgive me. When the Orc blade is called a "Scimitar" it's likely from someone remembering that normally, most orcs used a scimitar, and it was only Saruman's Uruk-Hai who used the short, straight blades. Hadhafang was a movie-only blade, in the books Arwen was not a warrior and she had no sword we know of. They did create some back-story for the blade we never got from the films, it was said to be the sword of Idril, daughter of Turgon, King of Gondolin and High King of the Elves after the death of Fingon, his brother. By the way, Gandalf's sword, Glamdring, used to be King Turgon's before the fall of Gondolin. In Tolkien's LOTR, the only woman we really hear about fighting is Eowyn, niece of King Théoden. As Théoden and his people were supposed to have wandered down from the far North, they show some Viking-like tendencies. Eowyn proudly proclaims her self to be a shieldmaiden longing for a glorious death in battle. The elves certainly would have had great skill in making weapons, if for no other reason than their age: By the time Frodo came into the story, Elrond was over 6,000 years old, and Gandalf, one of the beings who helped create the earth, came to Middle-Earth as a wizard with unknown thousands of years of knowledge and experience. Sorry, I ramble when it comes to the Tolkien Legendarium. I'm an elvish-speaking Middle-Earth expert.
@andrewgwilliam4831
@andrewgwilliam4831 7 лет назад
The Rohirrim weren't based on Vikings; they were Anglo-Saxons with a twist (specifically, what would the early English have been like if they'd had a horse-based culture).
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 7 лет назад
Andrew Gwilliam The Rohirrim were people who had once dwelt in the far North but came south to settle new lands, displacing some who were there and settling with others. The Vikings came from the North and conquered and displaced some on the British Isles and in France, and settled with others who were there (including some Anglo-Saxons, and also some French.) Seems somewhat likely.
@EagleScoutmano
@EagleScoutmano 7 лет назад
Vikings and Saxons share common ancestry as two of the various Germanic tribes; in fact Saxons were known for their raiding behavior in their (the Roman's) day, much like the Norse vikings of five centuries later. In that sense, then, it's somewhat ironic that both Saxons and Norse invaded (and somewhat colonized/mixed into) England; a double-dose if you will of the same breeding stock, centuries apart.
@amitabhakusari2304
@amitabhakusari2304 6 лет назад
Glorfindel's role was replaced and clubbed with Arwen's in the films.I wish I had seen that guy,he was quite awesome in the books.
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies
@random_eskimo_in_the_rockies 4 года назад
@@amitabhakusari2304 Awesome? Oh yeah. He was easily the greatest warrior in Middle-earth from his resurrection in the Second Age until he went back to Aman. It was said he was nearly on par with a Maia in terms of power (Gandalf, Saruman, and Sauron were all Maia, as were the balrogs.) I'd say in the whole legendarium, Glorfindel has to be one of the very best 4 or 5 warriors who ever lived. I'd say Fingolfin was likely the very best, how can you argue against the guy who gave Morgoth himself seven very serious wounds. No doubt Fëanor was great, but he was greater in mind and spirit. He was likely an incredibly skilled warrior, but his true greatness lay in other areas. Finglofin, Glorfindel, Ecthelion, and then probably Eärendil.
@AlluidTheGamer
@AlluidTheGamer 8 лет назад
Given the Hobbit's proportions, wouldn't a shortsword be like a longsword to them?
@flyingsodwai1382
@flyingsodwai1382 8 лет назад
Yep, its mentioned in the literature if not in the movies.
@Real_MisterSir
@Real_MisterSir 8 лет назад
I think that a longer sword would simply compromise the hobbits' only natural strength, their agaility. Of course, if you are a hobbit soldier in an army and yu have to hold the line against someone, then a longer sword would be moer fitting, but the hobbits in the movies are hardly warriors nor do they seem to have the required physique to actually wield a longsword and carry it on their journeys. The way I see it, the small blades like Sting are just there to give them some form of protection as self defense should they encounter enemies, but not for direct offense.
@insertname1667
@insertname1667 8 лет назад
+Daniel Kemnitz I think hobbits are actually stronger than what we assume but you're right about how something like a longsword would be completely impractical for them to use because of the size alone, since hobbits are roughly the size of young human children.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 8 лет назад
Aragorn and Denethor both comment that the Barrow blades they use as swords would be dirks or short swords for normal Men. However it is also noted that the eastern Hobbits of Buckland and Tookland have swords of their own and know how to use them.
@magma2680
@magma2680 7 лет назад
+Daniel Kemnitz they're never fighters anyways, they're only ever supposed to be archers or reconnaissance
@lordderppington4694
@lordderppington4694 3 года назад
So something I found interesting that skall didn't point out. the orc sword is basically an executioners sword (doesn't taper, has a flat tip) and the reason they were made like that is to have more mass to deliver a much more powerful blow. That spike on the end would probably also help with the momentum at the end. So basically it would be a bit heavier than most sword, and you couldn't thrust. BUT you could hit some powerful cleaves with that.
@UyFrankito
@UyFrankito 4 года назад
Super interesting; thanks for making this
@abyssalknight4081
@abyssalknight4081 8 лет назад
The Hobbits are going to Isenguard
@alfatazer_8991
@alfatazer_8991 8 лет назад
They're taking the Hobbits to Isengard! To Isengard! To Isengard! To Isengard...Gard..Gard...Gard!
@Edd360
@Edd360 8 лет назад
BOIL THEM MASH THEM OR STICK THEM INTO A STEW
@outfit5103
@outfit5103 8 лет назад
+Pan kurczak the hobbits are talking with isengard
@KnightofRome01
@KnightofRome01 8 лет назад
+Pan kurczak Isengard...
@filipkikoa9141
@filipkikoa9141 8 лет назад
+Pan kurczak No, the Hobbits are going to Isengard. WITH TREES.
@UndeadGhostGirl
@UndeadGhostGirl 7 лет назад
Never thought I'd be subscribing to a guy who talks about swords. Life is funny sometimes.
@boshvasara1868
@boshvasara1868 6 лет назад
Kyotis Nigel Man at arms is a great channel to watch my friend
@bladewolfvii6383
@bladewolfvii6383 6 лет назад
james 331 Not really. Much like cold steel they don't know a lot about practical weaponry.
@boshvasara1868
@boshvasara1868 6 лет назад
bladewolf VII They do Actually! The only reason why it looks that way is because they do alot of fantasy and anime weapons
@gastonbell108
@gastonbell108 6 лет назад
Now you gotta buy one.
@binozia-old-2031
@binozia-old-2031 5 лет назад
some guy named jamie james shadvirsty is the best
@LawNerdClips
@LawNerdClips 2 года назад
Thank you for this video 🙏❤️ One of the lawyers I know is nicknamed Lawgolas for his hair and I wanted to make sure I got an elf or Orc 🗡 accurate for an edit ❤️😂 Subscribed because I am a Nerd Nerd not just a Law Nerd 😅.
@Herowebcomics
@Herowebcomics 4 года назад
While you said you cold make the video shorter, I'm glad you didn't! This was a fun talk about some awesome weapons!
@jurajpangrac7910
@jurajpangrac7910 5 лет назад
Just a note, The Sting is a shortsword for a hobbit, for humans and elves it was designed as sort of a long dagger
@appa609
@appa609 3 года назад
The most unusual thing is that the handle fits both human and hobbit hands. Must be pretty small for a man.
@psychedashell
@psychedashell 3 года назад
@@appa609 "Not entirely sure it is a sword...more of...a letter opener really.
@AvramMoreh
@AvramMoreh 3 года назад
Bill Kong It was most likely crafted for an eleven maiden or child.
@RelativelyBest
@RelativelyBest 3 года назад
@@appa609 I dunno, a lot of daggers have pretty thin grips and Sting's hilt tends to look fairly long when held by Frodo or Bilbo. I'm not quite sure how the proportions scale down to someone the size of a man or elf, but I could easily see it as a dagger. By the way, also notice how much smaller Orcrist looks when handled by Legolas. Thorin makes it seem like this huge two-handed cleaver when it's actually more of a cutlass sort of thing.
@natemadison5156
@natemadison5156 7 лет назад
A quick note on Hadhafang (the sword of Elrond). This is a not a parrying sword. It is designed for making precise, rapid strikes chained together in fluid succession. The style required to wield it effectively uses a lot of wrist and arm movement, close to the body. Thus, a cross--guard would in fact be an inhibiting piece of useless and unwieldy metal. The "protrusions" on either side are not really protrusions at all. They are a result of the type of grind on the actual blade. Hadhafang is atypical, because it has a "hollow edge," meaning that the sharp part of the blade was not forged, it was ground (or hollowed) out. The spikes mark where the rest of the blade used to be, before it was actually a blade. I'm guessing that they were never filed off because they gave the blade a unique look, which befits a High Elf King. Pus this is fantasy so: "If it looks cool and isn't a problem, don't scrap it!" I have found through personal use that the most effective attack with this weapon is an upward or downward VERTICAL or SLIGHTLY diagonal slash starting close to the body. As the slash progresses, the blade is kept parallel to the user's body. The wielder than turns his wrist, sweeping the blade towards a perpendicular position, relative to the user's body. [If you prefer, you could say parallel to the ground]. This seemingly useless spike actually helps with directing the blade. In fact the sword seems to direct itself into the sweep-slash technique. I assume that either: a) The sword was forged to look amazing in a movie, and just happens to be the MOST EFFECTIVE weapon I have ever used because of its natural shape and edge-flow or b) The WETA Workshop smith is a genius AND a professional swordsman. Thanks, I just had to put that out there. I have nothing against your video, I basically watched it just to see what your opinion on Elrond's sword was, lol. Hadhafang is a beautiful piece of art, and I have won more tournaments with it than with any other "Professional Grade" Hand-and-half sword. If you were a competing swordsman, and you took the time to learn how to use it, you would have a hard time finding a more effective weapon. Before anyone comments I want you to know that yes, I know what I am talking about. I am a professional competing swordsman, and also a Tolkien fanatic
@valthorix7347
@valthorix7347 6 лет назад
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@ThreeLetters3
@ThreeLetters3 6 лет назад
Nate Madison can we have a TL;DR version?
@73hhK41
@73hhK41 6 лет назад
TL;DR: The Hadhafang is shaped the way it is because the blade was sharpened by hollowing, or grinding it, rather than being forged. The "spikes" are likely remnants of how much material was initially on the blade. The Hadhafang is designed for rapid strikes in fluid succession, and meant to be wielded close to the users body. The Hadhafang may have been designed for looks, but I suspect more likely it was designed by a genius and professional swordsman who knew what he/she was doing. I think anyone who takes the time to learn how to use this blade will have a hard time finding its equal. I (read: Nate Madison) am a profession competing swordman, and a Tolkien fanatic, and I'm not making anything up. I (read: Nate Madison) know what I'm talking about. Still TL;DR: The Hadafang was probably designed by someone who knew what they were doing, and works very well if you wield it properly. I've (read: Nate Madison) competed in and won several professional sword fighting competitions, I'm not JUST a Tolkien nerd.
@LittleGenevieve
@LittleGenevieve 6 лет назад
Well. You know your shit. I guesse
@MarkAVP
@MarkAVP 6 лет назад
Bought my ex-wife one of these years ago and can tell you personally, Arwen's sword was too heavy for practical use. Beautiful wall-hanger.
@freddiemiranda5366
@freddiemiranda5366 4 года назад
I definitely enjoy your content keep it up.
@johnmontalbano6027
@johnmontalbano6027 2 года назад
It makes sense to call the uruk-hai weapon a "machete" because the back spike makes it tip-heavy, like a kukri, kora, or a bill hook.
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