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Christoph Luxenberg is the pseudonym of the author of The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Qur'an (German edition 2000, English translation 2007) and several articles in anthologies about early Islam.
Luxenberg came into the public eye in the years after 2000, following the publication of his first book (or at least the first one under this pseudonym), The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran, which asserted that the language of the early compositions of the Qur'an was not exclusively Arabic, as assumed by the classical commentators, but rather is rooted in the Syro-Aramaic dialect of the 7th century Meccan Quraysh tribe, which is associated in the early histories with the founding of the religion of Islam. Luxenberg's premise is that the Aramaic language, which was prevalent throughout the Middle East during the early period of Islam, and was the language of culture and Christian liturgy, had a profound influence on the scriptural composition and meaning of the contents of the Koran.
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Luxenberg remarks that the Qur'an contains much ambiguous and even inexplicable language. He asserts that even Muslim scholars find some passages difficult to parse and have written reams of Quranic commentary attempting to explain these passages. The assumption behind their endeavours, however, has always been that any difficult passage is both true and meaningful, and that it can be deciphered with the tools of traditional Muslim scholarship. Luxenberg accuses Western academic scholars of the Qur'an of taking a timid and imitative approach, relying too heavily on the biased work of Muslim scholars.
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@assyrian2NV
@assyrian2NV 13 лет назад
As a native Aramaic-Syriac speaker I assure you that Quranic Arabic has the same roots as Syriac just like every other Semitic language. For example, the word HOURI comes from the ROOT word H-W-R - In Arabic that is pronounced as HOOR, in Syriac it is pronounced KHWAR-A which actually means "White" and not "Virgin". This book is worth checking out especially if you understand Syriac.
@bijosn
@bijosn 2 года назад
@@hm4084 that doesnt help your case much because its still referring to a person (woman - it doesnt make sense that they would get 72 men as a reward). So your allah (fake) is still promising carnal desires in your hedonistic heaven.
@cheghiskhan3977
@cheghiskhan3977 Год назад
@hm4084 So you try to say that the islamic paradise dwellers will be supplied with white eyed beauties, but no guarantee that they would be virgin. Right??? But, this is also stupid. Do you think purely white eyes are beautiful??? I think it would be very ugly😁...
@joahua122
@joahua122 Год назад
nah lol you are a liar go to hell bitch i am an arab and quranic arabic is just language of quraish tribe
@joahua122
@joahua122 Год назад
@@hm4084 bro they are disgusting lol this aramaic speaker just want to claim arab history
@mhkwolf
@mhkwolf Год назад
And I'm a native Italian speaker and I assure you that Don Quixote Spanish has the same roots as Italian just like every other Latin language. Y'all treacherously dumb.
@basilhendricks788
@basilhendricks788 4 года назад
No virgins only grapes imagine if you get there, to die for grapes and no firm maidens
@Kungfupanda839
@Kungfupanda839 3 года назад
LOL
@bigfan2452
@bigfan2452 3 года назад
Obviously it is virgins not grapes. No one would die for grapes but people would die for virgins.
@williamkey4165
@williamkey4165 2 года назад
The dark passages are in fact Christian lectionaries, and is stated so in the book, it is proof of a Christian proto-Quran from which a large portion of the Arabic Quran was taken. Using the same techniques for instance a lot of the poems are in fact Christian Hymns. The seems to have been a heretical Christian sect from which Islam seems to have risen, one in which Christ is not divine. Mecca, after all at that time if it existed at all, was a small village and was not a center of anything. Fake place, fake man, fake book. A created lie, there is no truth there.
@hzoonka4203
@hzoonka4203 4 года назад
Just watched this video again and the conclusion is this;the Quran borrowed heavily from the early christian writings.[my opinion only]
@BryceGirdner
@BryceGirdner 2 года назад
Early Muhammad was very Jewish, then Christian. There are early caliph coins with the ruler holding a cross. It wasn’t until Abd’ Al-Malik that we really start to see Islam solidify. The sword of Islam is a great book to read. Listen to the history of Byzantium podcast with Tom Holland interviews. It’s very clear Islam took a few centuries to really become what we know today. That’s okay as well. Christianity took time to marinate. The Romans thought early Christianity was a Jewsish Hersey…. Which both Christianity and Islam are. FYI, I’m agnostic. I just like history, man. Ali, the 4th Caliph, was an heir to the Ghassasnids, an Arab tribe on the border to Roman levant. Muawiyah, even according to traditional Muslim accounts, held lands in Roman Syria and Palestine. Not really sure how that’s possible if he was from Mecca but okay. It’s likely to me the people who invaded the Romans and Persians after the Great War were border tribes taking advantage of the situation. It sounds anticlimactic, but these Arabs were probably just raiding fertile lands and had so much success it snowballed into the Arab Empire.
@hydaromar6532
@hydaromar6532 2 года назад
We believe in the Jewish prophets a d believe Israel was God's chosen nation. Muhammad peace be upon him is the last messenger from Ishmael son of Abeaham peace be upon him
@whateverbabe
@whateverbabe 2 года назад
@@hydaromar6532 that's cause he stole stories from other religions and ancient myths. Nothing holy about that.
@hydaromar6532
@hydaromar6532 2 года назад
@@whateverbabe prove it then I'll believe you
@whateverbabe
@whateverbabe 2 года назад
@@hydaromar6532 how about you read some books about ancient civilisations and myths??? Especially those in the middle east, he literally stole everything. Even zarathustrian teachings and rituals like the Kaaba which is a pagan practice.
@HKHasty
@HKHasty Год назад
As a Muslim, I welcome such studies and find it interesting. The Arabic alphabet comes from Phoenician alphabet, which all modern Western alphabets come from. Naturally, Arabic language did not exist in isolation but evolved from and alongside other languages in the region.
@abubaytnighan6480
@abubaytnighan6480 Год назад
I appreciate your unbiased approach. Many muslims refuse to accept that Arabic was created by humans and is not the first semetic language. They feel the need to make it divine.
@TrevinOwens-r5k
@TrevinOwens-r5k Год назад
When you leaving Islam ?
@HKHasty
@HKHasty Год назад
@@TrevinOwens-r5k in your dreams
@TrevinOwens-r5k
@TrevinOwens-r5k Год назад
@@HKHasty You Muslim have Low IQ, Islam is nothing but a fabrication. How the Quran is new revelation but it’s just repeating Stories that be told for hundreds of years also taking stories from the Talmud🤣🤣🤣. Wake the hell up.
@alibrahym
@alibrahym 9 месяцев назад
akhy, Arabic is a language which developed like other languages, but do note, even if syriac has same words or similar doesnt mean that its the older language.
@darklightraven
@darklightraven 12 лет назад
there is no where in the Quran the mention of 72 vergins, what are these people talking about, and as he said hor el aïn if you change the dot it would mean something else, well i wrote it down tried all the possible ways to put the dot and it was gibrish, nothing to do with what he said, this is a scam , that's all i can say
@miovicdina7706
@miovicdina7706 Год назад
It seems that the Quran was actually a CHRISTIAN book. A brief summary of Jewish Mishna laws and Christian beliefs, loosely translated into Arabic, re-told and abbreviated, for the potential new Arabian peninsula conversts from paganism.
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
Definitely moreso than what they tell you, just as The Torah and Evangel are more muslim.
@miovicdina7706
@miovicdina7706 11 месяцев назад
@@nickmansfield1 Ahahahaaa, you have GOT to be kidding me 😂 3000 years Torah and 2000 years old Evangil can, by definition, NOT have anything of the 1400 years old Quran. The influence doesn't work backwards in time. It's like saying "Mozart was influenced by the Beatles just as much the Beatles were influenced by Mozart." Nah, bro. Only Mozart could influence the Beatles.
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
@@miovicdina7706 So you are unaware of the names Ahmad and Mohamad encoded in Deut.18:18, 33:2 respectively? Moreover have you examined the meaning of the word muslim in Isaiah through Job as Yeshua ben Miriam elucidated in Matthew? I am currently active on f/bk as admin for the group: Understanding The Qur'an From A Judeo-Christian Perspective. My most recent post has covered Deut.33:2 which encodes both Mohamad and Moshe, both of whom delivered a fiery judgment on faith; one to bani Israel, one to the nations.
@moroccanthinker-li8my
@moroccanthinker-li8my 6 месяцев назад
@@miovicdina7706 also even the book of judaism comes from older religions of the region like summeria in Iraq etc the story of noah and moise etc match the stories of old kings of sumer and the thousands tablets of sumer civilisation discovered recently showed us that all the three big religions are a joke and just a copy past of the legends of the region of iraq and iran etc...
@sidprice6214
@sidprice6214 4 месяца назад
The Quran never was nor ever will be a Christian creation. That is only what you tell yourself to hide the fact that there are no Aramaic or Syriac manuscripts among the 5500 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. One or 2 verses from the Quran are sufficient to prove this let alone the historical record which your ilk always wants to tamper with. So grow up and face facts, not everything in this world came from Christians.
@taoubajouini2254
@taoubajouini2254 4 года назад
Great! Very enlightening video, especially hearing Christoph Luxenberg himself speaking is very intriguing. He has done a GREAT job to decipher the inexplicable words from the Coran and link them to Christian words and to Armaic language. Could you please tell us where did you extract this video from? I am interested in watching the full documentary.
@sidprice6214
@sidprice6214 4 месяца назад
pile of crap
@darklightraven
@darklightraven 12 лет назад
as a translator of arabic, hebrew and french to finnish, i can say what this guy is saying is a none sens, i read the quran in arabic, never seen the verse saying the earth goes forward, or any word in arabic that he says doesn't mean what he says
@Christus.Rex.Dominus
@Christus.Rex.Dominus Месяц назад
Hi there. Have you heard of Jay Smith? It’s been 12 years since you’ve posted this and since then, major things have happened in the world of polemics. Check them out, maybe new insights will be revealed to you
@vxzvcsv5783
@vxzvcsv5783 3 месяца назад
Seems to be talking nonsense .
@kangleipak_pride
@kangleipak_pride 10 месяцев назад
Syriac Christian from India here.. Peace to our persecuted brothers and sisters in middle east..
@Phyziacom
@Phyziacom 7 месяцев назад
hahaha
@kangleipak_pride
@kangleipak_pride 7 месяцев назад
​@@PhyziacomWhats that pontification?
@MKn-hw1pc
@MKn-hw1pc 3 месяца назад
😂
@truelies5431
@truelies5431 2 месяца назад
Hahaaahaahaha ... you😂 must be referring to the cows
@VainakhQuranites
@VainakhQuranites 2 дня назад
@@kangleipak_pride you’re a long way from home
@blechinger
@blechinger 15 лет назад
Very interesting to say the least. The difference between translations on the reading of what the archangel said to Mary is pretty significant, I think.
@Decision_Justice
@Decision_Justice 7 месяцев назад
Go to the channel "Thomas Alexander" he is working on this project and provides updates and explanations in English.
@coltonconner782
@coltonconner782 11 месяцев назад
Dying over 72 grapes 😆
@sohaila6086
@sohaila6086 3 месяца назад
I love grapes but I think I would get sick of them If I had to eat them for eternity lmfao
@kennorton1478
@kennorton1478 2 года назад
Ajmal masroor says here:" German studies of Quran is very Christian centric as far as I'm concerned! Well", Quran itself is highly Christian & Jewish centric as far as quran is concerned, here is how: - Jesus makes 25 appearances in the quran. - Mary mother of Jesus makes 34 appearances in the Quran. - Moses makes staggering 136 appearances in the Quran. - while " Mohammed's" name mentioned as little as 4 times only in the Quran! Does that sound like far from Christian and Jewish centricity?! Furthermore, as a correction of Masroor's statement; they were no Arabic dictionaries existed at the time of the prophet , first Arabic dictionary created some 200 years after the time of the prophet لسان العرب ,the tongue of Arabs by ibn mandhoor.
@Portubella12458
@Portubella12458 15 лет назад
This is great....Where can I find more?!!! I'm talking full documentaries here!!! It would be wonderful if more people could be as open-minded...
@BryceGirdner
@BryceGirdner 2 года назад
Take the time to read his book.
@Decision_Justice
@Decision_Justice 7 месяцев назад
Go to the channel "Thomas Alexander" he is working on this project and provides updates and explanations in English. There's also a documentary "Has Modern Archaeology Changed The History Of Islam? The Sacred City" that is revealing.
@muhammmadrizwan7334
@muhammmadrizwan7334 Год назад
Which is the best source to learn Syriac and write it beautifully? Thanks and Best Regards.
@JohnDoe-yy9lr
@JohnDoe-yy9lr 2 месяца назад
I know this is a year too late. But the absolute best place to learn syriac or Aramaic. Find yourself a Assyrian church of the East. There are many of them in major cities in the west. Or a syriac church. They all do Aramaic classes during the week.
@davidm1904
@davidm1904 2 года назад
ok you had me and I was willing to listen but most of this is just nonsense I'm sorry
@amins1673
@amins1673 2 года назад
This book was written by a lebnani christain and all scholars debunked it
@qetoun
@qetoun Год назад
This documentary has aged like fine wine.
@sidprice6214
@sidprice6214 4 месяца назад
keep drinking - alcohol kills brain cells. with plenty of grape on the brain one can just change the consonants of the Quran to derive any grape story one wishes.
@tinaxoxo1206
@tinaxoxo1206 7 лет назад
Most of the comments are written in English , i can read Arabic , how do you write صلاه in Arabic. It is ص ل ا ة ، you will find it in the Quran written صلوة ص لو ة ، it is the Aramaic word for صلوة so the one who wrote the letters kept it as it is , while the Arabs read it salat , and write it salat . Ans so many other words which were wrongly written because they did not know the meaning in Aramic and thus had a different meaning . Arabic language was derived from Aramic , Aramic is older than Arabic . Arabs did not have a written language when the Quran was revealed. So they took the 22 alphabet letters of Aramic and added another six which are الهمزة ، الألف، الشدة، ،ى ال التعريف والنقطة . If someone can read Aramic he could read the old version of the Quran easily and interpret it.
@hunnybean269
@hunnybean269 5 лет назад
Arabic is not derived from aramaic, but influenced by it. Arabic is much closer to proto semetic and shares its characteristics much more than hebrew and Aramaic
@kcthefree5976
@kcthefree5976 4 года назад
بالضبط
@guardingsoul6652
@guardingsoul6652 3 года назад
All semetic languages have always existed
@chrislux3687
@chrislux3687 3 года назад
@@hunnybean269 Do you mean spoken or written Arabic ? Written Arabic is not older than the Qur'ân (more exactly Syriac "Qeryân")., "Classical Arabic" not older than the first Arabic grammar of Sibawayh or Siboyeh (second half of the 8th century)., the "classical" Arabic literature not older than this grammar. How do you believe that this "neo-classical" Arabic is older than the Hebrew and Aramaic literature ? The so-called "Classical Arabic" is a late conventional language, inspired from diverse old Semitic languages as Accadian, Ugaritic, South-Arabian and Aramaic. You may believe or not believe.
@abdur-rahmanapenebiik923
@abdur-rahmanapenebiik923 3 года назад
U wrong mr. Arabic is not origin from Aramiac. Aramiac is one of the slightly weak semetic root today. Arabic language is purest and in the Arabic tongue. There is nothing that is Arabic borrowing words from Aramiac. U wrong
@Ebuverthebicepcurler
@Ebuverthebicepcurler 14 лет назад
Whats so hard with thinking some of the words are Syro-Aramaic? Is that so god damn hard to accept? Religion does not seem to enjoy logic.
@suryaadi404
@suryaadi404 Месяц назад
12:2 Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran so that you may understand
@rainer1980
@rainer1980 Год назад
If there's a Christian bias in symbolism that the author uses to re-interpret some of these Koranic passages, some would argue that Jesus wasn't trying to start a new religion, but that he was trying to reform Judaism, and give the Jews a refresher course, like saying "love thy enemies," vs. "love thy neighbors" in the old testament; their neighbors were often their enemies too. Jesus even says himself, "I didn't come to abolish the laws of the prophets. I cam to fulfill them." The Romans did a makeover of "Christianity," sanitizing it of it's Jewish origins... Romans: What? You're telling me if I believe in Jesus we can't eat pork? We can't have wine a certain way? Do you know what that will do to our economy? We conquered the Jews. How would it look if we practice a religion of a people we conquered? No. We have to say it's a different religion, and say the Jews didn't accept it, so we can still oppress them, and not believe like them. I did actually hear from an Iranian secular professor I had in Islamic studies talk about the mistranslation really meaning "You get 72 grapes" as opposed to 72 virgins. Specifically, the Koran uses an Aramaic loanword "herr," which refers to a variety of white grapes. In Exodus 14:19-21 God has 72 names, so maybe it's really a metaphor: eat a grape, reflect/"meditate" on each name of God for each grape. Once you've gone through them all then maybe you know God in his entirety.
@javiqbal4023
@javiqbal4023 Год назад
There is no mention 72 virgins in the quran.
@bghawanmeh
@bghawanmeh 12 лет назад
This garbage research! How about Arabic is still spoken today as it was at the time of the revelations. Someone in the chain of transmission would have had to make that "grape" mistake lol .. No No! At some point in time every one in the muslim world which was about 100 million when the last companion died.. Looked at the word " grape" and said this must be " a pure spouse" .... This is absuuuuuuuuuuurd
@vxzvcsv5783
@vxzvcsv5783 3 месяца назад
Marvelous Quran youtube channel has better translation.
@dap6339
@dap6339 Год назад
The Prophet, PBUH, to whom the Qur'an came down, is an arab. His companions are also arabs. The communities in mecca and medina, where the prophet initially spreaded the religion are arabs. So it makes sense that the Qur'an will contain mainly arabic vocabularies. Some foreign words will of course be found in the Qur'an, as also happen in any languages in this world. But to interpret any qur'an readings, people should merely rely on the two internal sources of islamic teachings, those are, the Qur'an itself and the hadiths. Any interpretation outside those two will lead to misunderstanding and false knowledge.
@knockoutfever4
@knockoutfever4 Год назад
Muhammads’ crew likely copied from Ephraim the Syrian’s writings to create the Quran.
@dannysalinas947
@dannysalinas947 8 месяцев назад
But I thought Arabic was the language of heaven? 🤔
@Decision_Justice
@Decision_Justice 7 месяцев назад
But Mecca is NOT, after all where Muhammad (PBUH) had lived. Have you not seen the recent scholarship on this, which reveals the actual location where he grew up? WATCH the documentary "Has Modern Archaeology Changed The History Of Islam? The Sacred City" The Prophet, PBUH, grew up in and lived in Becca, not Mecca. It was originally written "Becca" And someone changed the way the location was written. Archaeology in the current location of Mecca shows there is nothing there before the 8th Century.
@anonymousunknown1085
@anonymousunknown1085 6 лет назад
Assumption 1: The region of Mecca at the time of revelation (approximately 1400 years ago) was an initial Aramaic settlement. Counter Argument: There is an absence of historical Syriac-Christian works prevalent in Mecca at that period. Assumption 2: The language of the Meccans was a hybrid language of Arabic and Syriac. Counter Argument: No manuscript evidence or 5th /6th century inscriptions indicate this. Assumption 3: No presence of an Arab oral tradition and culture. Counter Argument 3: Historical information indicates that there was an adequate and thorough transmission of an oral culture. Assumption 4: The Arabs during the Prophet’s time forgot the Syriac language and lapsed into what is now known as classical Arabic. Counter Argument 4: This would entail that a mass loss of memory had plagued the Arabs during that time. Assumption 5: The Prophet could read and write fluently (knowing many dialects). Counter Argument 5: An assumption (or speculation) that is no stronger than the argument (or assumption) that he was illiterate. Assumption 6: Various scribes wrote the Qur’an from the Meccan hybrid (‘mutant’) language. Counter Argument 6: No analysis given that indicates different influences and linguistic sensitivities that arise out of multiple authors. Assumption 7: Employment of an exclusively philological approach. Counter Argument 7: This enables freedom to stretch interpretations as well as emend the Qur’anic text in order to make it correspond to the desired Syro-Aramaic texts. Even though that Luxenberg’s study is based upon weak assumptions he attempts to substantiate his conspiratorial claims by re-interpreting single words in the Qur’an by using corresponding Aramaic words. As a result of finding similarities in words - which can be done with all the Semitic languages - he concludes that the Qur’anic text must then be borrowed from Syro-Aramaic Christian texts. This is equivilant of saying that Shakespeare was originally Homers work because many English words have Greek origins! Marrying ‘White Grapes’! Luxenberg’s re-interpretation of the word for “hur”, meaning ‘chaste beautiful girls’ in Arabic exposes his fundamentally flawed approach to studying the Qur’an. In Aramaic “hur” means ‘white’ or ‘white grapes’ however Qur’anic commentators say that “hur” is the plural of the Arabic word “houri”’ meaning ‘chaste and beautiful girl’. The word “hur” occurs in the Quran 4 times at 44:54, 52:20, 55:72 and 56:22. At each of these places the word “hur” is mentioned the context of marriage and paradise. For example in 44:54, “…and We shall marry them with hur, having attractively wide eyes” And at 55:72, “They are hur, guarded in pavilions” If anyone was to take Luxenberg’s view that this word means ‘white’ or ‘white grapes’, how could anyone fit this re-interpretation of the word in the Qur’anic context? Have you known or seen anyone marry ‘white grapes’ before? How can Luxenberg show the link between the Qur’an and a supposedly Syro-Aramaic text when only one word has been provided as a link and the context of the verse and its literary structure have been ignored? There are many more examples that demonstrate Luxenberg’s insistence that the Qur’an must be a manipulated text whose origins are a variety of Syro-Aramaic Christian sources. This persistence has blinded Luxemberg’s academic judgement as the Syro-Aramaic texts he accuses the Qura’n of ‘borrowing’ from are in fact post Quranic (dated after the written text of the Qur’an!). So what came first? The Qur’an or the text that is supposedly borrowed by the Qur’an, but yet emerged after the Qur’an? Confused? I don’t blame you. Just by discussing Luxenberg’s assumptions and the above example he uses, it can be easily pointed out that the evidence he provides is based upon weak assumptions and lacks historical evidence.
@Decision_Justice
@Decision_Justice 7 месяцев назад
except that you are mistaken. For one thing The Prophet Muhammad pbuh, did not grow up in nor live in Mecca, as was originally thought. The place he grew up in and lived was Becca. A mistake was made in the transmission of the name of the location. See the documentary "Has Modern Archaeology Changed The History Of Islam? The Sacred City" The original name of the documentary was "The Sacred City."
@wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495
@wouldyouliketomeetkenbamba9495 15 дней назад
Barakalllah fikum ya abdullah
@ryanlogic
@ryanlogic 12 лет назад
surely any handwritten qur'an in the past would have been cross referenced orally. And even of one was mis-dotted it would not have been able to change the meanings or the sounds of the actual quran. in short, the Qur'an was written after it was memorized by thousands of people who all memorized exactly the same thing. It was and still is passed down orally, so it is impossible to assume that and incorrectly written words could have changed the oral tradition itself.
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@NorthernGate777
@NorthernGate777 14 лет назад
Thank you for posting this video
@husaamsaif
@husaamsaif 11 лет назад
Rapid evolution!!! Who said that? And you lied and said that scientists agree with your conclusion about languages. Can you name your reference? Scientists only have speculations not vivid evidence. Do you know the difference? I am not asking you to teach me Mr. I am showing others in this page the difference between you and me.
@Eopyk
@Eopyk 12 лет назад
Aramaic hade a great influence on Arabic especialy Syriac that is easterm Aramaic.
@joahua122
@joahua122 Год назад
nah is not
@tariqkamal6141
@tariqkamal6141 2 года назад
I did master in islamic history, Also did research for proof, In history of Islam , first Qur'an was written on animals bones, skin and wooden slap, also some on stones which was on prominent places like macca ,madina, At 1 kalif abu baker ,he collects all Qur'an in one book, At 3 kalif Usman again Qur'an collect due to damage of only copy first Qur'an,by using all people who memorized it,6 copy were made and send to all 6 States, Later people make copies just for memorization,with no dots, with no helping verb, people using this method still today , Islamic history tells us about how extremest were Muslims, they didn't like it ,to change it to others languages, others meaning,not even a single dot, Nobody can proof if anything changed,or same , History also tells us 7 different Arabic dialog Qur'an, people also mixed them and makes 47 different qirat,
@lushu3943
@lushu3943 Год назад
Aside some few academics, most people don't care if Quran was preserved, because they already know that it is not authentic from its composition, that is the most shocking and little is talk about it, the blatant plagiarism. Keep in mind that the Quran has a legend from a popular novel about Alexander the Great, also about many content in circulation during the time.
@ashleytheseeker8480
@ashleytheseeker8480 Год назад
I learned that there was 10 different qirat. But you said is what's told to us. There's a difference between actual archeology and what's been repeated to us in our Islamic classes. Who's to say 1000 years in the future that ppl will even find anything for Islamic archeology when the Saudis claim they are destroying ao many historical sites to "prevent shirk"
@randomuser6306
@randomuser6306 11 месяцев назад
That's the standard narrative but that's been torn to shreds over the past 20 years
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
@@ashleytheseeker8480 In Kabbalah the #s 7 and 10 are important, just like Daniel and Revelation - the Roman Beast.
@messianicrogue
@messianicrogue 14 лет назад
@VipericVampire "I'm a Sunni Muslim. I do not see any logic in Shi'ite Islam and all other forms of Islam" The sad thing with religion is that even in groups that profess, by and large, the same knowledge, rituals, beliefs - there is this division and elitism that is seemingly inevitable. All religions seem to deliberately set themselves up for conflict by forming sects that denounce others sects for slight variation in practice or interpretation.
@TheLatiosnlatias02
@TheLatiosnlatias02 3 года назад
Ahmadiyya, Nation of Islam, Mahdavia aren't counted as Islam
@darklightraven
@darklightraven 12 лет назад
this is what it says in arabic if we translate it: purified spouses. AZWAJAN MUTTAHARAH, which means litterally purified spouses.
@zzap999
@zzap999 12 лет назад
Because Arabic and Islam came later. Furthermore, you muslims don't even realize that the black stone you kiss is a shivaling. Your Kaaba has hindu incriptions in it, i.e 786("OM"). The crescent and star are actually symbols of Shiva. You muslims say it is just Byzantine, wrong! The Haj is also Hindu. Your prostrating is Hindu. Mecca is Hindu. And so is your Prophet.
@MaxamadAxmadqaasim
@MaxamadAxmadqaasim Месяц назад
Ifen Jews kistin wll😂😂
@cigitur
@cigitur 14 лет назад
Aramaic Reading of the Quran
@afghanistanculture
@afghanistanculture 14 лет назад
If the Claim is true, the German author/explorer should provide proofs. We Muslims need proof for such invalid claim.
@peterstill3760
@peterstill3760 5 лет назад
I love it when a detailed work is commented by people who argue that the text does not matter because it is subject to interpretations. Even better when it is relegated to European orientalism .
@chercheacomprendre8088
@chercheacomprendre8088 4 года назад
peter still they always hit with not so convincing arguments it’s just insane how much the Islamic scholars and the Muslim world is stubborn towards the flaws and contradictions of the Koran
@laghzaouni
@laghzaouni 12 лет назад
.un peuple semite qui migra des AHQAF region du sud est de l arabie suite a la destruction de leur cite que les archeologues viennent de decouvrir recemment . ce peuple parlait l Arabe Semitique , c est a dire L ancien Arabe qu on trouve toujour dans les poesies arabes d avant l islam .cette langue est toujour parlee chez les bedouins d arabie comme au sud du maroc et d egypte le yemen et le habasha(l abyssinie)
@kenmcclellan
@kenmcclellan Год назад
At 4:25, you have something important. Actually, both versions are probably accurate. There will be pole shift and there will be great fissures in the Earth due to earthquakes.
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
In the Hebrew Bible one should often read things 2 ways or more when a single letter change solves a problem, etc. Judaism also speaks of 7 ways to read Ha-Torah.
@Wise__guy
@Wise__guy 10 месяцев назад
Ah yes I love sitting under white crystal clear grapes
@GodsSeer
@GodsSeer 13 лет назад
@bantalbusuk81 , someone wrote it down The Quran was not handed to MUHD, That would have been a true miracle, but he had scribes. Abdullah Ibn Abu Sarh/ Muhammad's Scribe:- He was one of Muhammad's scribes who used to suggest alternative words to rhyme with the verses of 'revelations' to which Muhammad agreed. Quran is man made, You cannot prove otherwise, It is a jumbleled mess, YHWH does everything in ORDER, He is not the GOD of confusion,.
@VipericVampire
@VipericVampire 14 лет назад
@truthhitmanisback I am an Arab. In Arabic, we call Baal (the Phoenician God) as Ba'al. I don't know from where you think we call God Baal.
@mrdaudouchiha47
@mrdaudouchiha47 4 года назад
ba'al is husband in Hebrew. mean Polyteism of Filistion old time use stone as god call ba'al mean husband for closed between wife and husband.
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
@@mrdaudouchiha47 That just means lord by interpretation.
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
Maybe: Coming-god.
@hdy2681
@hdy2681 6 месяцев назад
I wish Aramaic language and community didn't die soon. They know Islam more than Muslim know Islam.
@sidprice6214
@sidprice6214 4 месяца назад
you are in laa laa land
@yroy4457
@yroy4457 10 месяцев назад
Now think of those muslim who thought they would get 72 hoor instead they get 72 raisin
@HZ_LionsDen
@HZ_LionsDen 15 лет назад
I wish you the best man. Whatever it is may you be rewarded.
@TrevinOwens-r5k
@TrevinOwens-r5k Год назад
Islam destroy,
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@moroccanthinker-li8my
@moroccanthinker-li8my 6 месяцев назад
you cant prove that quran wasnt humans word using the same quran as a prove, are u an idiot ? lol if it was really protected by god why the shia have a different quran and even in the sunna community the quran in some countries are not the same like egypt and morocco etc...
@JohnDoe-yy9lr
@JohnDoe-yy9lr 2 месяца назад
ههههههههههههه😂 يا حافظون كله مسروق ومنسوخ
@MaxamadAxmadqaasim
@MaxamadAxmadqaasim Месяц назад
​@JohnDoe-ylr oky if they stolen where anciant bibal 😂😂😂😂
@SPDirector4111
@SPDirector4111 Месяц назад
Brah what the hell
@SPDirector4111
@SPDirector4111 Месяц назад
Is this heaven.
@VipericVampire
@VipericVampire 14 лет назад
@truthhitmanisback No, I don't have to go and look for proof. If you're trying to convince someone of something, do you go and tell them "find the proof yourself." When you're a prosecutor in front of a judge, do you tell him to find the proof himself? When you write an article and have to prove your thesis, do you write "Please find the proof yourselves, but it's THE TRUTH!!!111ONE!one1" No, that's not the way the world works.
@luqmanproadminvip136
@luqmanproadminvip136 Год назад
The Quran was revealed in Quraish dialect, with few borrowed words from other languages... Why should we refer to the other language, other than Quraish dialect??? Except for those words borrowed from other language.. Just imagine, Shakespeare evaluated in French, Portuguese...
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
English is half-French, half-Germanic.
@carnivoreisvegan
@carnivoreisvegan 6 месяцев назад
I thought 7 different dialects were revealed to Mohammed?
@Mrbrainiac
@Mrbrainiac 10 лет назад
where i can get the whole documentary ?
@rabi78jallo
@rabi78jallo 4 года назад
Buy the book
@Mrbrainiac
@Mrbrainiac 4 года назад
@@rabi78jallo What book?
@Mrbrainiac
@Mrbrainiac 4 года назад
@@rabi78jallo What book?
@rabi78jallo
@rabi78jallo 4 года назад
The Syro regarding of the Quran
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--UPloJW0Oo4.html
@joey143anna
@joey143anna 13 лет назад
it would not be endangered if they taught aramaic for free, i want to learn aramaic the language of jesus christ!
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
Hebrew. The bulk of the Gospels must be read in Hebrew, especially where The Tankah is quoted. Just like Arabic is the primary language of The Qur'an. Other readings assist us to more fully understand both.
@afifkhaja
@afifkhaja 3 года назад
Luxemburg's Quran only shows what the Quran would have meant had it been written in Syrio Aramaic. The Quran was written in Arabic so it should be understood based on what it means in Arabic, not in Syrio Aramaic
@AymaneSabbane
@AymaneSabbane 2 года назад
If read in arabic some parts of it will then have no sense...
@watchyourmouth8232
@watchyourmouth8232 2 года назад
@@AymaneSabbane which verse?thats why we have ulama..they learn and discuss,later they decide the meaning of the Quran..
@edward1412
@edward1412 9 месяцев назад
@@watchyourmouth8232 Thus, they have to find new meanings to words that don’t make sense in the Quran.
@MaxamadAxmadqaasim
@MaxamadAxmadqaasim Месяц назад
​@@AymaneSabbaneThat your adea but not true 😂lol
@riyadhf1rdausehh
@riyadhf1rdausehh 2 года назад
PfanderFilms brought me here
@Phyziacom
@Phyziacom 4 месяца назад
I hope that Professor Luxenberg writes scientific papers and submits them for scientific peer review, just as any researcher, when he writes a scientific paper, must submit it to a group of professors who decide whether to accept or reject it. I highly doubt any paper will be accepted because most credible science on this subject does not take Syro-Aramaic reading seriously because of massive flaws.
@vivimolina3320
@vivimolina3320 9 лет назад
The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to decipher the language of the Koran
@bowsi9
@bowsi9 12 дней назад
Who cares what an Arabic word would mean in Aramaic after all the Quran was dictated by Angle Gebreal to prophet Muhammad peace be upon him in Arabic.Any other language is irrelevant in interpretation and in context.
@Portubella12458
@Portubella12458 15 лет назад
Bingo. Unfortunately many people from many other religions in the past and present have done and continue to do this. That's why it's our job to have a brain!!!
@ibnAmat
@ibnAmat 20 дней назад
This is the equivalent of saying “pan equals bread” cause in the English word Pan sounds like the Spanish word for bread so they must, must mean the same thing🤣
@ssifr3331
@ssifr3331 10 месяцев назад
If you add/change dots of course it's gonna be different letter and result different meanings. Kha, ha', and jim, the only difference is 1 dot. And ba, ta, tsa, ya, and nun, they are very similar in writing and the difference is in the dot.
@Wise__guy
@Wise__guy 10 месяцев назад
Arabic used to be written with no dots. Dots and markings have been added during the time of compiling the Quran, in order to remove ambiguity and preserve the way people orally recite the Quran.
@marlinkhoshababratdeel2250
@marlinkhoshababratdeel2250 3 года назад
Dr. Christopher Luxembourg, it is The truth about The interpretations of Qur’an. it is perfectly right. because the Qur’an it was written and Syriac Aramaic , because back then they tried to translate the holy Bible to different dialects, for other people that they live around that area , and they started modified the Syriac language , but when Islam ☪️ came they change a lot of the words in the book, when they did not know how to read the Qur’an, they ask Syriac people, to put the dots on the letters. In order to read and understand the Qur’an, you should ask the Syriac professor Goryal Sume ,
@husaamsaif
@husaamsaif 11 лет назад
Evolution doesn't explain the origin of languages because language is a software. Who designed and inserted that software into our system? He is the same one who inserted the information in the DNA Mr.That why great scholars like Einestine and Bohr even Hawking and Dawkins could not deny the Creator but they rejected to accept God as presented by religions. No one can blame them since theists failed to prove that the creator is the one who is worth of worship. I hope this cleans your mind.
@OmnipresentPotato
@OmnipresentPotato Месяц назад
0:48 this is a completely unfounded claim. There is no word in the entire Quran whose meaning is not known wnd explained in various Tafseers. Even if you consider some specific words which have had various opinions, they would not ever be a quarter of all the words in thr Quran. Does this mean that if anyone today tries to read will be able to understand the language? No, because we don't speak Arabic as fluently as people did 1400 years ago, which is why some people don't understand the words. But the words themselves have known meanings. Of course, you can get an idea for the meanings of Arabic words (not necessarily just Quranic) through Syriac because they are both in the same family group and are very similar languages. You can do the same with Hebrew. For example, the Arabic word for peace, salam, is very similar to the Hebrew shalom, because they are similar languages. You can do the same with Indo-European languages. For example, vater in German, padre in Spanish, père in French, pater in Latin, pita in Hindi, father in English, are all very similar, because they belong to the same family group. Using this idea to say that the Quran was originally in Syriac is the height of idiocy. You can apply the same thing to explain that Shakespeare actually originally wrote in French, and point to many similar words. But this completely ignores how the vast, vast majority of the words and structures are originally in English, not French. 1:35, this is also a completely false statement. Syriac was a language spoken in, say, the Levant, or the northern part of the peninsula. But Arabic was the main language used in the rest of the peninsula, in Najd and rhe Hejaz and Yemen, and in Mecca and Medinah. Written Arabic was not in its infancy. Poetry was very popular amongst the Arabs, and the most popular poems were written down and hanged upon the Kaaba. We have many Arabic writings from that time and from before. Yes, languages mixed. That was normal. Words were borrowed. But once they became used commonly in Arabic, you can't say, then, that these words were Syriac. Do you say that the English word "cotton" (which comes from the Arabuc qutn) is actually an Arabic word, and that English people speak a mix of Arabic and English due to the amount of Arabic words present in English, such as sugar, cat, algebra etc.? It's a nonsensical notion. The comparison with Anglo-Saxons and Normans isn't correct, because, as stated earlier, Arabic was (surprise) the main language spoken in Arabia. People spoke to each other in Arabic. The majority didn't know any other language, and if they did, it was because of trade and travel, not because they regularly interacted with Syriac people. Consider this: while Anglo-Saxons may have spoken French with their Norman overlords, would it be logical that they spoke French amongst themselves, or that they spoke English? The whole idea is nonsensical and a comic attempt at deriving conclusions based on faulty logic and analogies.
@VipericVampire
@VipericVampire 14 лет назад
@truthhitmanisback You probably embarassed yourself: that's why you deleted your comment. Listen, I don't have to prove anything. I claimed something that was a fact. Baal is pronounced Ba'al in Arabic and Lord, Rab/Ilah. That is a fact. You, however, are claiming that Lord can be traced back to Baal. Where's your proof? Or are you just bullshitting? Cause it seems like you are. A little cute quote doesn't pass by as proof. I want solid evidence by etymologists or any specialist in the matter.
@ProgressiveLiberty
@ProgressiveLiberty Год назад
What’s the full documentary this is from?
@Decision_Justice
@Decision_Justice 7 месяцев назад
I don't know which documentary this clip is from, however, the channel "Thomas Alexander" is a follow-up. He is working on this project and provides updates and explanations in English.
@mhamadshhab6318
@mhamadshhab6318 Месяц назад
This german is hallucinating. The coran is in pure fluent arabic . Theres no syriac or any other language in the coran. He justs finds wats not real to be real in his mind.😂😂😂😂😂.
@PsssttstttSstt-qw1my
@PsssttstttSstt-qw1my Месяц назад
well HOOR can mean different thinks in different languages. in the nederlands if you write down HOOR for someone it means listen. in somali if you write down HOOR for someone it means independant. the german should atleast know if ee write downs HOOR someone in the netherlands it just means listen. germany and netherlands are nabourgjs 😂
@pantheroleoleo536
@pantheroleoleo536 8 лет назад
As far as the earliest stages of Syriac grammar is concerned, our information about it is scarce. Most of what we know about the terminology of the early Syriac grammarians (e.g., Jacob of Edessa) is derived from the reports in the later writers, such as Bar Hebraeus [d. 1286 CE], and it is likely that their terminology reflects Arabic influence rather than a genuinely indigenous development. Versteegh says: Unfortunately, we do not know very much about the earliest attempts of the Syrians in grammar and reading, in the sixth and seventh centuries. Most of what we know is derived from later Syriac writings, which were, however, composed at a time when the Syriac tradition had undergone the influence of Arabic grammar, and had taken over most of the conceptual and terminological apparatus of that tradition. As a matter of fact, both Syriac and Hebrew grammatical terminology, as we know it, are a calque of the Arabic terminology. Unfortunately for Mingana and Luxenberg, their assumptions of Syriac orthographical and grammatical influences on Arabic fall flat on their faces. LOLZ !!
@G33KN3rd
@G33KN3rd 8 лет назад
+In Lulz We Trust I natively speak Syriac-Aramaic. Aziz Salih is simply not putting 2 and 2 together... Syriac is older than Arabic, if there was any lingual contact, it would mean that Syriac would be influencing Arabic alot more than Arabic influencing Syriac. Arabic uses a modified version of the Syriac alphabet and even uses Syriac loanwords. How would Arabic become more advanced than Syriac considering that Syriac was born from a more advanced population that lived in an advanced civilization that was incubated from Mesopotamian, Persian, and Greek knowledge while Arabs only had so and so knowledge from Greeks, Persians, and Romans?
@fobbyjose7161
@fobbyjose7161 2 года назад
The Kandahar Edict of Ashoka dated to 270 BC attests to the age and spread of Aramaic . The Aramaic part of this bilingual edict is found to be of a higher standard grammatically than the Greek part of the same edict even though the Greeks had conquered the region half a century ago and were still politically powerful. No vestige of Arabic is to be found in this time period or before in these parts.
@fobbyjose7161
@fobbyjose7161 2 года назад
Koran 16:66 in Arabic waxes eloquent about milk supplied by the male of the species ! It is proof of the translater suffering from translation fatigue slipping into the easier word by word translation instead of considering the verse as a whole. If the contents were originally expressed in Arabic there is no chance of such an error occuring .
@samuelmorales2344
@samuelmorales2344 Год назад
The Quran was finished post 7th century and developed in the areas of the Levant and Mesopotamia. One reason why Muslims don't understand the Quran in that it has no context is because the Arabs took Christian lectionaries and liturgies to make scripture. To understand Quran, you actually need to be Christian who knew the lingua franca of the time. In addition, the Quran contains Jewish and Christian apocrypha. Islam came later and became what it is a couple of centuries when the Arabs found a consensus on the story of their prophet which originally was Jesus. Just like Christians, they must profess faith in God and the prophet. What is strange is Muhammad of Islam is just a man while Jesus is a god. Why would you profess faith in a man? When Islam was developing it's conduct for the people, that is when you start to see science decline, and philosophers going into exile. This points to a clearly man-made religion that was removing things to accommodate a new religion created under the order of the caliphs. The people who would become Muslims were actually part of the Byzantine and Sassanian Empires. When the Byzantines defeated the Persians, they retreated, and left the regions in the Levant unoccupied and the Arabs took over as a de-facto client state paying tribute to the Byzantines. Eventually the Arabs would defy their former rulers and create their own identity. Many things, including cultural customs such as women wearing veils over their body and faces existed in Christian communities in Himyar, present-day Yemen, and within Byzantium itself. Islam surely comes from Christianity as a fabrication. There is plenty of evidence where Islam really comes from with many dots to connect.
@ykn9240
@ykn9240 Год назад
@@samuelmorales2344 nice speculations 1400years after the event
@Portubella12458
@Portubella12458 15 лет назад
I won't be converting just yet there's still alot I need to learn first and if it IS the only method of salvation then i hope many others are saved too. But I thank you all the same. Peace : )
@ashleytheseeker8480
@ashleytheseeker8480 Год назад
Don't. There is no salvation in al islam. We're taught we have a higher chance going to jahannam than jannah.
@trollgegael
@trollgegael 11 месяцев назад
@@ashleytheseeker8480its about truth not certainty, christianity fails because its followers can sin all they want because they have "jesus"
@ashleytheseeker8480
@ashleytheseeker8480 11 месяцев назад
@paulmccollum there is no salvation. God hasn't torn the sky apart to tell its truth, itself. Its time to grow up, respectively.
@Wise__guy
@Wise__guy 10 месяцев назад
@@ashleytheseeker8480 again please understand that it’s about TRUTH. It doesn’t matter what a religion teaches, what matters is if it’s is from God or Man made. I’ll pick the one that has more evidence that it’s from God.
@ashleytheseeker8480
@ashleytheseeker8480 10 месяцев назад
@Wise__guy god is mighty quiet when it comes to which of the 1000s of religions he wants us all to follow.
@aryeh3701
@aryeh3701 11 месяцев назад
When the Aramaic language of Yeshua was translated to English in the 1600s in England it was deliberately corrupted to worship Augustus Caesar as King and Lord of Lords, etc Arabic word for God :Allah, Aramaic: Alaha. Christian Pastors teach that it's Jehovah.smh
@paulos1466
@paulos1466 4 месяца назад
The German professor's documentary presents some evidence that the Quran is derived from the Bible and posits that its origins are in Aramaic, not Arabic. This challenges the traditional belief and the lie about the divine revelation of the Quran.
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 8 месяцев назад
The Aramaic word for God is "Alaha". It's the word Isa PBUH used. Sounds familiar? Written without the confusing vowels it is written A-L-H ܐ ܠܗܐ (alap-lamed-he) as found in Targum or in Tanakh (Daniel, Ezra), Syriac Aramaic (Peshitta), reduced from the Arabic original (of which Aramaic is a dialect continuum as will be explained) it is written in the Arabic script 'A-L-L-H' (Aleph-Lam-Lam-Ha) add an A before the last H for vocalization. The word God in another rendition in Hebrew ʾĕlōah is derived from a base ʾilāh, an Arabic word, written without confusing vowel it is A-L-H in the Arabic script, pronounced ilah not eloah. Hebrew dropped the glottal stop and mumbled it, aramic mumbled a little less and it became elaha. Infact both are written written A-L-H in Arabic, it is pronounced i in Arabic and not A because it is an Alef with hamza below (إ أ ) They are two different forms of Alef. And it mean "a god", it is the non definitive form of A-L-L-H, in which the Alef is without a glottal stop/hamza,(ا), but this kind of nuance is lost in the dialect continua. infact "YHWH" itself is an Arabic word as discussed by Professor. Israel Knohl (Professor of Biblical studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) in the paper" YHWH: The Original Arabic Meaning of the Name." jesus as his name is often misspelled due to the lack of the ayin sound in Greek, which was rendered to Iesous, coupling the nearest sound to ayin, same letter found in 'Iraq', which sounds entirely different in Arabic form 'Iran' in Arabic, with the -ous Greek suffix that Greeks typically add to their names 'HerodotOS', 'PlotinUS', 'AchelOUS' and later mumbled into a J. The yeshua rendition of Isa (his name in the Qur'an) PBUH which is purported to be the name of Jesus is KNOWN to had been taken from greek. Western Syriac also use "Isho". Western Aramaic (separate from Syriac which is a dialect of Eastern Aramaic) use "Yeshu". Western Syriac has been separate from Western Aramaic for about 1000 years. And sounds don't even match up. Syriac is a Christian liturgical language yet the four letters of the name of Jesus «ܝܫܘܥ» [ = Judeo-Babylonian Aramaic: «ישוע» ] sounds totally different in West vs East Syriac, viz. vocalized akin to Christian Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic «ܝܶܫܽܘܥ» (Yēšūʿ) in West Syriac, but pronounced more akin to Muslim Arabic Quran character name Isa in East Syriac «ܝܑܼܫܘܿܥ» (ʾĪšōʿ). The reason for this confusion is their dropping of phonemes. Only someone that has no idea what the letters are or how they sound would have a name ending in a pharyngeal fricative like the ayin, if it were to be used in a name it would have had to be in the beginning, thus the Arabic rendition is the correct one. An example in English is how the appended -d is a common error amongst the English pronouncing Gaelic names. The name Donald arose from a common English mispronunciation of the Gaelic name Donal. Just how it is with donal becoming donald and the two becoming distinct and the original being regarded as something seperate so too did Isa PBUH turn to Iesous turn to jesus and when they tried going back to the original they confused it for yeshua ( ysu is how it is actually written) for Isa PBUH ( 3'eysah ) Schlözer in his preparation for the Arabia expedition in 1781 coined the term Semitic language: "From the Mediterranean to the Euphrates, from Mesopotamia to Arabia ruled one language, as is well known. Thus Syrians, Babylonians, Hebrews, and Arabs were one people (ein Volk). Phoenicians (Hamites) also spoke this language, which I would like to call the Semitic (die Semitische)." -Before Boas: The Genesis of Ethnography and Ethnology in the German By Han F. Vermeulen. He was only half right though, Arabic is the only corollary to "proto-semitic", infact the whole semitic classification is nonsensical as will be shown. "protosemetic" Alphabet (28), Arabic Alphabet (28), Latin transliteration, hebrew (22) 𐩠 𐩡 𐩢 𐩣 𐩤 𐩥 𐩦 𐩧 𐩨 𐩩 𐩪 𐩫 𐩬 𐩭 𐩮 𐩰 𐩱 𐩲 𐩳 𐩴 𐩵 𐩶 𐩷 𐩸 𐩹 𐩺 𐩻 𐩼 ا ب ت ث ج ح خ د ذ ر ز س ش ص ض ط ظ ع غ ف ق ك ل م ن ه و ي A b t ṯ j h kh d ḏ r z s sh ṣ ḍ ṭ ẓ ʿ ġ f q k l m n h w y א ב ג ד ה ו ז ח ט י כ ל מ נ ס ע פ צ ק ר ש ת Merged phonemes in hebrew and aramaic: ح, خ (h, kh) merged into only kh consonant remain س, ش (s, sh) merged into only Shin consonant remaining ط, ظ (ṭ/teth, ẓ) merged into only ṭ/teth consonant remaining ص, ض (ṣ, ḍ/Tsad ) merged into only ḍ/Tsad consonant remaining ع, غ (3'ayn, Ghayn) merged into a reducted ayin consonant remaining ت, ث (t/taw, th) merged into only t/taw consonant remaining The reason why the protoS alphabet here is 28 and not 29, is because the supposed extra letter is simply a س written in a different position, but it was shoehorned to obfuscated. In Arabic letter shapes are different depending on whether they are in the beginning , middle or end of a word. As a matter of fact, all of the knowledge needed for deciphering ancient texts and their complexity was derived from the Qur'an. It was by analyzing the syntactic structure of the Qur'an that the Arabic root system was developed. This system was first attested to in Kitab Al-Ayin, the first intralanguage dictionary of its kind, which preceded the Oxford English dictionary by 800 years. It was through this development that the concept of Arabic roots was established and later co-opted into the term 'semitic root,' allowing the decipherment of ancient scripts. In essence, they quite literally copied and pasted the entirety of the Arabic root. Hebrew had been dead, as well as all the other dialects of Arabic, until being 'revived' in a Frankensteinian fashion in the 18th and 19th centuries. The entire region spoke basically the same language, with mumbled dialect continuums spread about, and Arabic is the oldest form from which all these dialects branched off. As time passed, the language gradually became more degenerate, Language; When one looks at the actual linguistics, one will find that many were puzzled by the opposite, that is, how the other "semetic" languages were more "evolved" than Arabic, while Arabic had archaic features, not only archaic compared to bibilical Hebrew, Ethiopic, "Aramaic" contemporary "semetic" languages, but even archaic compared to languages from ancient antiquity; Ugaritic, Akkadain. What is meant here by Archaic is not what most readers think, it is Archaic not in the sense that it is simple, but rather that it is complex (think Latin to pig Latin or Italian or Old English, which had genders and case endings to modern English), not only grammatically, but also phonetically; All the so called semitic languages are supposed to have evolved from protosemetic, the Alphabet for protosemitic is that of the so called Ancient South Arabian (which interestingly corresponds with the traditional Arabic origins account) and has 28 Phonemes. Arabic has 28 phonemes. Hebrew has 22, same as Aramaic, and other "semitic" languages. Now pause for a second and think about it, how come Arabic, a language that is supposed to have come so late has the same number of letters as a language that supposedly predates it by over a millennium (Musnad script ~1300 BCE). Not only is the glossary of phonemes more diverse than any other semitic language, but the grammar is more complex, containing more cases and retains what's linguists noted for its antiquity, broken plurals. Indeed, a linguist has once noted that if one were to take everything we know about languages and how they develop, Arabic is older than Akkadian (~2500 BCE). And then the Qur'an appeared with the oldest possible form of the language thousands of years later. This is why the Arabs of that time were challenged to produce 10 similar verses, and they couldn't. People think it's a miracle because they couldn't do it, but I think the miracle is the language itself. They had never spoken Arabic, nor has any other language before or since had this mathematical precision. And when I say mathematical, I quite literally mean mathematical. Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of years later in an alphabet that had never been recorded before, and in the highest form the language had ever taken? The creator is neither bound by time nor space, therefore the names are uttered as they truly were, in a language that is lexically, syntactically, phonemically, and semantically older than the oldest recorded writing. In fact, that writing appears to have been a simplified version of it. Not only that, but it would be the equivalent of the greatest works of any particular language all appearing in one book, in a perfect script and in the highest form the language could ever take. It is so high in fact, that it had yet to be surpassed despite the fact that over the last millennium the collection of Arabic manuscripts when compared on word-per-word basis in Western Museums alone, when they are compared with the collected Greek and Latin manuscripts combined, the latter does not constitute 1 percent of the former as per German professor Frank Griffel, in addition all in a script that had never been recorded before. Thus, the enlightenment of mankind from barbarism and savagery began, and the age of reason and rationality was born from its study. God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@mznxbcv12345
@mznxbcv12345 8 месяцев назад
Very enlightening detailed work
@ranro7371
@ranro7371 8 месяцев назад
Schlözer in his preparation for the Arabia expedition in 1781 coined the term Semitic language: "From the Mediterranean to the Euphrates, from Mesopotamia to Arabia ruled one language, as is well known. Thus Syrians, Babylonians, Hebrews, and Arabs were one people (ein Volk). Phoenicians (Hamites) also spoke this language, which I would like to call the Semitic (die Semitische)." -Before Boas: The Genesis of Ethnography and Ethnology in the German By Han F. Vermeulen He was only half right though, Arabic is the only corollary to "proto-semitic", infact the whole semitic classification is nonsensical for anyone with a somewhat functioning mass between their ears. hebrew, aramaic, rest of madeup dialect continua only have 22 letters of the 29 protosemitic letters Arabic has all 29. The difference betweeen Arabic and the other creoles and Pidgin is the same as that between Latin and pig latin or italian. |Classical Arabic | 28 consonants, 29 with Hamza and 6 vowels; some consonants are emphatic or pharyngealized; some vowels are marked with diacritics | Complex system of word formation based on roots and patterns; roots are sequences of consonants that carry the basic meaning of a word; patterns are sequences of vowels and affixes that modify the meaning and function of a word | Flexible word order, but VSO is most common; SVO is also possible; subject and object are marked by case endings (-u for nominative, -a for accusative, -i for genitive); verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different moods and aspects | | Akkadian | 22 consonants and 3 vowels; some consonants are glottalized or palatalized; vowels are not marked | Similar system, but with different roots and patterns; some roots have more than three consonants; some patterns have infixes or reduplication | Fixed word order of SVO; subject and object are not marked by case endings, but by prepositions or word order; verb agrees with subject in person, number, and gender; verb has different forms for different tenses and aspects | | Aramaic | 22 consonants and 3 vowels (later variants have more); no emphatic or pharyngealized consonants (except in some dialects); vowels are not marked (except in later variants such as Syriac) | Simple system of word formation based on prefixes and suffixes; some roots or patterns exist, but are less productive than in Arabic or Akkadian | The reason why 'salam' is reduced to 'shalam' or 'shalom' in Aramaic and Hebrew is because they lost the distinction between S and SH (س , ش) "Semitic" is just mumbled Arabic, really. Imagine English with a third of its letters removed and simplified grammar. That's Aramaic, Hebrew, etc. For example, combine T and D into just T; there's no need to have 2 letters. The same goes for i, e, y - they should all be just y from now on, etc., etc. Arabic is the only corollary to proto-Semitic. In fact, the whole classification of Semitic languages is nonsensical for anyone with a somewhat functioning brain. Hebrew, Aramaic, and the rest of these made-up dialect continua only have 22 letters out of the 29 proto-Semitic letters. Arabic has all 29. The difference between Arabic and the other creoles and Pidgin is the same as the difference between Latin and pig Latin or Italian. "Phoenician" is an Arabic dialect continuum, and not only that, it is pidgin. It is simplified to the point of stupidity. Anyone with a basic knowledge of Arabic would see this clearly. What happened was that Arabic handicapped "scholars" saw the equivalent of Scottish Twitter spelling, with added mumbling due to phonemic mergers (22 letters, not 29), and mistakenly thought they were seeing a different language." Let's start with a simple sentence: ## The house is big Arabic: البيتُ كبيرٌ al-bayt-u kabīr-un Proto-Semitic: *ʔal-bayt-u kabīr-u Hebrew: הבית גדול ha-bayit gadol Akkadian: bītum rabûm Amharic: ቤቱ ገደሉ betu gedelu As can be seen, Arabic and Proto-Semitic have the same word order (noun-adjective), the same definite article (al-), and the same case endings (-u for nominative). Hebrew and Akkadian have lost the case endings and changed the definite article (ha- and -um respectively). Amharic has changed the word order (adjective-noun) and the definite article (u-). But Arabic is not only similar to Proto-Semitic, it is also pre-Semitic, meaning that it is the original form of Semitic before it split into different branches. This is because Arabic preserves many features that are not found in any other Semitic language, but are found in other Afro-Asiatic languages, such as Egyptian and Berber. These features include: - The definite article al-, which is derived from the demonstrative pronoun *ʔal- 'that'. This article is unique to Arabic among Semitic languages, but it is similar to the article n- in Berber and the article p-, t-, n- in Egyptian. - The dual number for nouns and verbs, which is marked by the suffix -ān or -ayn. This number is rare in other Semitic languages, but it is common in other Afro-Asiatic languages, such as Egyptian and Berber. - The imperfective prefix t- for verbs, which indicates the second person singular feminine or third person plural feminine. This prefix is unique to Arabic among Semitic languages, but it is similar to the prefix t- in Berber and Egyptian. - The passive voice for verbs, which is marked by the infix t between the first and second root consonants. This voice is unique to Arabic among Semitic languages, but it is similar to the passive voice in Egyptian and Berber. Finally, a more complex sentence: The letter was written with a pen. Arabic: كُتِبَتِ الرِّسَالَةُ بِالقَلَمِ kutiba-t al-risāla-t-u bi-l-qalam-i Proto-Semitic: *kutiba-t ʔal-risāla-t-u bi-l-qalam-i Hebrew: המכתב נכתב בעט ha-michtav niktav ba-et Akkadian: šipram šapāru bēlum Egyptian: sḏm.n.f p-ẖry m rnp.t Berber: tturra-t tibratin s uccen Here, Arabic and Proto-Semitic have the same word order (verb-subject-object), the same passive voice marker (-t-), the same definite article (al-), and the same preposition (bi-). Hebrew has changed the word order (subject-verb-object), lost the passive voice marker, changed the definite article (ha-) and the preposition (ba-). Akkadian has changed the word order (object-subject-verb), lost the passive voice marker, changed the definite article (-um) and the preposition (bēlum). Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of years in a language that is lexically, syntactically, phonemically, and semantically older than the oldest recorded writing? Now how is it that the Qur'an came thousands of years later in an alphabet that had never been recorded before, and in the highest form the language had ever taken? God did bring down the Qur’an, Mohamed is his Messenger.
@ARRusulOneMessage
@ARRusulOneMessage 6 месяцев назад
EXcellent
@IvanChrisantus-hz4cv
@IvanChrisantus-hz4cv 25 дней назад
Totally wrong
@Truth833
@Truth833 9 дней назад
Such cooy pasted garbage. Arabic as a written language evolved and developed with the creation of quran using borrowed alphabets and words from syriac, Hebrew, parsi etc evoloving over the centuries into the classic Arabic and later modern Arabic.
@لؤي-ك9س
@لؤي-ك9س 2 года назад
How do I find the full documentary?
@nickmansfield1
@nickmansfield1 11 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--UPloJW0Oo4.html
@HenryHalamadrid
@HenryHalamadrid Год назад
Well if there’s one GOD and that GOD has been revealing the same message to all nations but some of those nations corrupted the words of GOD make sense that the Qurān will have part similar to the Bible or Torah and maybe earlier scriptures given to nations before Abraham. Because if we judge the Qurān by saying some verses are similar to the Bible then the Bible is a copy from the Torah and the Torah a copy from earlier manuscripts . Just people wasting their time on non sense trying to proof things they don’t even know. Just live your lives and there will be a day when all of us will meet GOD and all doubts will be clarified.
@MichaelJahckson
@MichaelJahckson 2 года назад
Whre i can finde the full video ?
@ilovesudan
@ilovesudan 13 лет назад
this is bullshit, he changes the letters and then calls it a different meaning. bullshit
@VipericVampire
@VipericVampire 14 лет назад
@messianicrogue I did read your comment. How else could I have responded to it? Anyway. I am ending this conversation. You are ludicrous for judging me like you do, without looking at this from the Islamic perspective. This is not about elitism. Get that through that little hot-aired head of yours, "messianicrogue" (lol). And have a nice day.
@AdorIslam
@AdorIslam 13 лет назад
God has appointed a time for everyone and for the Jews and Christian they waste their time trying to distort Islam but always fail. When we debate we debate what you believe and we don't debate on the Gospel of Barnabas or any other disciples of Jesus. So why beat around the bush. Try your skills with us in the book we believe in, not just that man quoted and this man quoted like the same Bible justification. You don't have a gospel of Jesus and Jesus never authorized anyone to write is gospel.
@azrael3326
@azrael3326 4 года назад
The unbeliever will not succed
@radwanabu-issa4350
@radwanabu-issa4350 7 лет назад
I think this kind of videos will invite more people to look into the Quran and make their own understanding because everyone is ultimately responsible of him/herself and nobody else can save or damn him/her!
@bijosn
@bijosn 2 года назад
dumbo
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion 9 месяцев назад
Everyone seems to overlook the Manichaean influences in the 7th century Syriac speaking world. I firmly believe this is the missing link in the chain, Mani was born into a Jewish-Christian Gnostic sect and then traveled east and learned about Buddhism, which along with the Zoroastrian influences all around him as he grew up in the Sassanid empire and was born in Ctesiphon, laid the foundations for the theology that would come to be called Manichaeism, he wrote 6/7 works in Syriac, and he called himself the seal of the prophets and the next in line after Zarathustra, Buddha and Jesus. The coins from the time period are very telling, some feature the blended imagery of Zoroastrianism, Christianity and Buddhism, and when I see that I immediately think of Mani.
@Decision_Justice
@Decision_Justice 7 месяцев назад
That's fascinating. You might want to go over to the channel "Thomas Alexander" and inform him of this information. He is providing updates on current scholarship in Germany on the Syro-Aramaic early documents and versions of the Quran.
@jeangatti9384
@jeangatti9384 Месяц назад
Le coran est à l'origine un livre de prédication chrétien utilisé par les chrétiens anti-trinitaires appelés nazaréens, ils sont appelés "nasara" (نَصَرَ) dans le coran, tandis que les chrétiens trinitaires qu'ils détestaient sont appelés "mushrikouns" (مشركون) , c'est à dire "associateurs" ou "polythéistes" parce qu'ils associent Jésus à Dieu (ce qui est du "shirk" ( شِرْك ), contraire à l'unicité d'Allah ou "tawhîd" ( تَوْحِيدُ )
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
إِنّا نَحنُ نَزَّلنَا الذِّكرَ وَإِنّا لَهُ لَحافِظونَ
@almazchati4178
@almazchati4178 Год назад
Certainly they are semitic languages, and most likely they were closer to each other when Quran was revealed. Many words may be common or sound similar. The problem may be that Quran uses the Aramaic version of a word, not the Arabic, at a few versus. Since it makes a distinction for the usage of words, any other Aramaic interpretation of similar words must be excluded. It is written inArabic.
@davidd2053
@davidd2053 5 лет назад
The teacher of Muhammad was an Assyrian named Sergius Bahira who was a Christian (Nestorian) monk. Sergius or sargis is a very common name in the Assyrian community which comes from the Ancient Assyrian King Sargon.
@amrmagdy6575
@amrmagdy6575 28 дней назад
And why you didn't complete the info and said he converted to islam and knew that he was the awaited prophet when Gabriel was revealed to him and the real name of that guy is Warqa-ebn-Nawfl?
@dennisdabney1091
@dennisdabney1091 3 года назад
Jeremiah ch16v19
@FreeFalasteen4ever
@FreeFalasteen4ever 11 месяцев назад
This theory is foolish and nonsensical- Syriac is a language that developed much later than Arabic under the influence of the Church, and so applying this framework is illogical. This Professor is trying to make himself seem as brilliant when, in fact, he has run into the dead end of disbelief. The Qur’an is the true unadultered word of God Almighty, Allah سبحانه وتعالى.
@reallifehack4790
@reallifehack4790 5 месяцев назад
Quran is a collection of plagiarism
@TwiztedHumor
@TwiztedHumor 10 месяцев назад
Yes, so controversial that this muslim scholar doesnt dare to give his name as he explains his theory of the Bible originally being in Arabic!...or wait......
@sidprice6214
@sidprice6214 4 месяца назад
actually ...we cannot find a New Testament in Aramaic so we will just say that the Christians wrote the Quran in Arabic as the Christians were more familiar with Arabic than Aramaic
@igorvova9555
@igorvova9555 4 года назад
The old language, scripture are three kind, it is ( Arabic, Aramaic, Hebrew)
@SomeMan001
@SomeMan001 7 лет назад
Martyr will marry wine grapes?? hahahahaha Try more and fail more and more and more, we watch and laugh. You look like a person hits the rocks with his head to destroy it, but he destroys his head LOL
@jenni_noura9170
@jenni_noura9170 4 года назад
Don't you understand that grapes are sweet. Is a metafor...
@HomoCyborgZombie
@HomoCyborgZombie 15 лет назад
And 72 grape women for you sir :3
@Poetrychannel474
@Poetrychannel474 10 месяцев назад
2:21 bruh. That is arabic
@logitech4410
@logitech4410 12 лет назад
quelqu'un pourrait me traduire cette vidéo en français ?
@KraPar-z4r
@KraPar-z4r Год назад
Go learn english you french basta*rd
@husaamsaif
@husaamsaif 11 лет назад
Any description dedicated to a character is fit to that character only. So describing God with any adjective is only dedicated to his incomparable character not to ours. So, When you say God is good, it's not like saying Sam is good. God's goodness belongs to his incomparable character only and so on.
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