The Tale of the Blue Pullman

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For my last video of 2020, this is a reupload of my original Blue Pullman documentary from January, now with a shortened length, and updated to include the introduction of the brand new Midland Pullman HST set by Locomotive Services Limited, a scheme which hadn't been announced when I released the original.
The Blue Pullman was a fixed rake set of luxury trains that operated across the Midland and Western Regions of the British Railway network, and were, at the time, one of the most opulent forms of travel for commuters journeying between Birmingham, Bristol, Manchester and London. Sadly, for everything the Blue Pullman did right, it did two things wrong, not through any fault of the trains themselves, but instead through poor management, timetabling and rostering for these lavish trainsets, seeing their working lives cut short after only 13 years.
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@LboroWick 3 года назад

“A victim of poor planning and management”...... The story of most great ideas and organisations of the UK.

@Alex_Bert_ 3 года назад

Same with most of the countries in the World, we can’t have serious people at the Government AND WE STILL VOTE THEM! God society is stupid! 🤦‍♂️

@obelic71 3 года назад

@@Alex_Bert_ never underestimate the stupidity of mankind.

@neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 3 года назад

SafeBandicoot except on the LMR it was always seen as a stop-gap pending the electrification of the WCML. One of the LMR sets as tested on the ECML to Leeds/Hull and consideration was also given for their redeployment on Waterloo to Bournemouth to replace the loco-hauled Pullman coaches.

@johngebbie8382 3 года назад

@@Alex_Bert_km Üa

@corrigenda70 3 года назад

All the result of WW2 and nationalisation

@dave1001 3 года назад

It's a shame not a single set was preserved and put on display eventually at the NRM

@mumblbeebee6546 3 года назад

@Joshua W56 Interesting point, thank you! I always think of asbestos being a problem in buildings, but of course it was used everywhere.... I could not understand why they had to scrap the carriages just because the engines were scrapped (and I really hope they reused the MAN powertrains?). Could they not keep the carriages in other train configurations? Or were they just too uncomfortable compared to the Mk II?

@CaseyJonesNumber1 3 года назад

@@mumblbeebee6546 they were somewhat special and designed as part of a unit, and would have been incompatible to work with other stock without (at least) modification to corridor ends (at least on the carriages that would connect to other stock), and things had moved on in the short time since their introduction. Bear in mind that the HST prototype was already being tested when the BPs went out of service, and the production HSTs were in service by 1976.

@ianhudson2193 3 года назад

@Joshua W56 No such thing. Firstly the NRM didn't really exist at the time and there was no Natiknal Collection policy at the time. Asbestos content did not become an issue until about 1980 so was irrelivant. A businessman did try to by a set for luxury charter but BR policy at the time fud not allow privately owned diesels on the network... indeed steam was banned at the time (with the exception of Fkying Moneypit as Alan Peglar had a contract) and there was no interest from preservation, not withstanding no preserved line had space of use for one, so sadly the Pullman Sets were dead meat.

@neiloflongbeck5705 3 года назад

hudson you fo like talking about things you know nothing about. The National Railway Museum might not have existed in 1975, but a National Collection did exist, it was maintained by BR and housed in Clapham. Thus collect was transferred to York for the opening of the NRM on 27th Septembef 1975. BR's own museum closed in 1973, ending a practice that dated back to the NER preservation of Locomotion Number 1 of the Stockton and Darlington Railway. All over the Big 4 had their collections of important and historic locomotives which in 1948 formed the nucleus of the National Collection.

@neiloflongbeck5705 3 года назад

@Joshua W56 I think there are 2 real reason that no part of the Blue Pullman was preserved. 1, It didn't meet the criteria for a place on the National Coliection as it wasn't considered to be ground breaking or was a significant development in railway technology (just look at the struggle it was to get them to take a first generation DMU). 2. The preservationists of the day were more interested in preserving steam locomotives and were only accepting diesel locomotives that had more utility on their lines which are restricted under the Light Railways Act to 25mph.

@RUOKH 3 года назад

HAPPY DAYS! I travelled on the final Blue Pullman special from London Paddington on 5 May 1973 and was sitting just in front of the elderly gentleman who 'accidentally' boarded at Swansea and caused an unscheduled stop to set him down at Neath. I recall that he even offered to pay the Pullman supplement (Swansea to Neath), which was (I think) 25p. He was the last genuine Blue Pullman passenger. Thank you for this excellent documentary compilation.

@Lee_303 Год назад

My father boarded one at Swansea (not this one) hoping to buy a ticket & they couldn't, being pullman. So he got to travel through to London with all the perks.

@williamgeorgefraser 3 года назад

I was lucky enough to travel on this back in 1968. I was 16 at the time, spending the holidays with my parents in Brighton. I announced one day I was going to head off to Barry to visit Woodham's scrapyard. On the return from Cardiff to London, I took the South Wales Pullman. Besides this, we also took several trips on the Brighton Belle. Such amazing times.

@Deepthought-42 2 года назад

👍Thanks for posting. I was reminded that as a young avionics engineer in the 1960s I used to travel on these vibrant new trains enjoying, what for me, was the height of luxury with on train meals on company expenses. They were exciting and optimistic times: At face value train services were getting faster and becoming more luxurious with the introduction of new rolling stock and infrastructure improvements. Britain had an aircraft and automobile industry: We built and developed planes such as the V Bombers, the TSR2 and Concorde and made cars such as the E Type, Aston Martins and Minis. I felt as though my country was “going somewhere” in the “white heat” of technology. I was naive to the management incompetence, outdated union practices and political interference that resulted in so many lost opportunities that has caused the UK to spiral to the bottom in many ways, not least railway infrastructure development.

@tributory 3 года назад

I rode on both the Blue Pullmans and the prototype HST as a child in south Wales. The Blue Pullmans were very uncomfortable, the blinds didn't work, the air-con appeared to have problems, and they had problems keeping time - after seeing this video I realise that some of the problems, apart from the ride comfort, may have been down to reduced maintenance but the HST which came along some years later was a revelation in travel; state of the art, fast and super comfortable.

@davidstrains4910 3 года назад

My dad used to see this when he lived in derby he would see it from his bedroom window once in the morning and once in the evening

@neilvann2670 3 года назад

I remember 'when I were a lad' trainspotting at Nottingham Midland. The train would sit in platform 5 for an hour or so mid-afternoon between it's intermediate St. Pancras - Nottingham - St. Pancras turn. Little urchins that we were, we'd often sneak on and sit in the first class seats as we took the numbers of other passing trains, particularly in inclement weather. We must have been noticed by station staff, but I don't recall ever being bothered by them.

@tonywright8294 3 года назад

Well that’s soooooooo interesting!

@neilvann2670 3 года назад

@@tonywright8294 The only worry was that the train might bugger off with us still on it!!

@boyo_bryan69 3 года назад

I wasn't even around when the train was around........

@Jaxymann 2 года назад

Something about the Blue Pullman design is so evocative of the 1950s - classic and analogue yet looking to the future, it looks almost like a proto-HST. A crying shame none of these beautiful trains were saved for preservation :(

@daveattrill2712 2 месяца назад

Fascinating documentary, Ruairidh. I was pretty much unaware of the history of these trains, especially the fact that not one single vehicle survives. The HST passed beneath my local footbridge in Sheffield in late 2020. It was a treat to see this livery in the flesh at last even if it wasn't the original machines. Suffice to say not a great deal of social distancing was observed on the footbridge at the time lol.

@blainecountysherrif4542 3 года назад

I don't live in the UK but man did I love it. Nice to know it's in HST form.

@trevorhart545 Год назад

Yes, and it captures the "concept" nicely. Hope it is a financial success despite Draconian Covid restrictions. Don't believe a single WORD of Hancocks Diaries, as about honest as Meghan Markle & Ex Prince Harry the Thick.

@saltspringrailway3683 3 года назад

Around '65 I saw a traditional Pullman coach in a Hull shop window for 15 shillings (75p). I asked my mum to buy it - she had this purse full of coins. That Christmas guess what Father Christmas brought me.............a Blue Pullman. Still got it though it hasn't run since '72. It's on a shelf in our living room in Canada. If you click on the loco symbol you'll see what I'm up to now a days.

@jasonfernee2401 2 года назад

I have the 1970 Hornby 00 set of the light grey blue livery, so not all were scrapped :)

@robrowe2298 3 года назад

Closed a bit of a gap in my knowledge, I had my eye on the Triang Hornby set with these in it as a smaller boy.

@stephaniekent8483 3 года назад

I have an original boxed set from the 60s by triang hornby she still runs as good as new :)

@rileyludlow961 3 года назад

i like the blue pullman, i was drawing it while watching this

@KempSimon 3 года назад

With two locomotives, each developing 1,000 hp, were the "Blue Pullman" trainsets seriously underpowered? I note that they had to be assisted over the South Devon banks by a 2,700hp Class 52 Diesel-hydraulic locomotive when they ventured "off the beaten track" to Plymouth!

@lewisner 3 года назад

You must be very strong.

@davidarnold2173 3 года назад

Here in Australia I first saw these in model form in the early 60’s, then soon after noticed our not so similar DMU sets in New South Wales & not too long later I first encountered our American styled streamlined diesels pulling in to Sydney’s Central Station. While fascinated with the steam engines of that era my love of all those shiny diesels had begun!

@JohnDoe-yq9ml Год назад

I bet you have so many good stories. Older people like you that lived massively different lives than I did always fascinate me. Hope all is well.

@andrewmeah3082 2 месяца назад

I travelled on the blue Pullman from Birmingham Snow Hill to Paddington with my father in 1964 I just remember the train as a stand out in the banking blue colour when all other locos were in black or br green had breakfast on it great memories

@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels 3 года назад

I had no idea this HST forerunner existed. What a luxurious train. Those were clearly the days for rail.

@paulturner9195 3 года назад

I travelled on the Bristol Pullman on the Paddington to Bristol route in the late 1960s. It was fast, smooth, quiet, comfortable, served great food and was surprisingly affordable. I loved it.

@stephanhirons3454 3 года назад

I remember when I was about twelve seeing one of the grey ones passing through Stockport Edgely and being thrilled by the sight of it

@western_alex 3 года назад

It’s a total shame it ended. Would of been good if a set could of been preserved.

@grahamariss2111 3 года назад

@Joshua W56 I can't believe that was the genuine reason, because every steam locomotive has asbestos insulation around its boiler and every diesel locomotive of that era, has similar amounts of asbestos as these units yet many have made it into preservation. I suspect it had more to do with the financial crisis of the mid 70s, afterall a decision was made to keep only one of the HST prototype power cars, even that was at the time the record holder of for fastest diesel train.

@ianhudson2193 3 года назад

@Joshua W56 No such thing. No interest from NRM as not the established museum we know today back then....indeed, it was not even the NRM. Railway Mafazine of thd time did report a businessman from High Wycombe had enquired about purchasing a set for luxury charters but BR regulations of yhe time did not permit privately owned diesels to operate on the network.....indeed steam locos were banned from BR at the time (Flying Moneypit excluded as Alan Peglar had a contact)..... No space on a preserved line to git a set so they wrnt to Matpke & Gillot fir the chop.

@sullivanrachael 3 года назад

@@grahamariss2111 The prototype HST was my Dads baby; he was the engineer in charge of test running it and working out the bugs before production of the fleet commenced. The prototype HST power cars were slightly different in detail and after the HST programme were used to test equipment for the APT. They were used as ‘test equipment’ and so bear in mind the HST was only a mere stopgap before the APT came in. Eventually the roughest was robbed of pieces (including its roof) to keep the fleet running. So the lost prototype was really cannibalised out of existence, the second kept as a test car unit deemed of historical significance. Regarding asbestos in the Blue Pullman - that was the sprayed asbestos/cement mixture applied to stop panels thrumming - cheap, fireproof and in vogue at the time. Sadly very difficult to remove or ‘handle’. Personally I think the presence of this stuff (a liability; safer to get rid of contaminated vehicles) was one reason the Blue Pullmans were scrapped, along with penny pinching and the reminder of failure.

@ianhudson2193 3 года назад

@@sullivanrachael Blue Pullmans were scrapped because there were no genuine buyers, not asbestos which was not controlled the tine and why they were like manh thousands of other contaminated vehicles, broken up in an open air scraoyard with no environmental controls. I take it they swapped roofs on the prototype GST power cars as the scrap one defiantly had a roof when i walked through (what was left) it at Derby Wirks scrap sidings in May 1985...

@sullivanrachael 3 года назад

@@ianhudson2193 in which case I stand corrected about the whole roof. The piece they used replaced one blown off by a Gale! I know that sounds a little absurd but that’s exactly why the story stuck in my mind. My Dad liked those prototype units - to see them become derelict was sad. Please be aware I’m a railway child, I grew up with stories about the Railway Technical centre and later worked there for a short time when some of it was privatised as Interfleet Technology. Regarding what I said about asbestos - I have seen BR technical documents on industrial hygiene going back to the 1960s when blue asbestos became a thing. There was a genuine worry about the material; but if a vehicle was sold as scrap its content ceased to be problem of the BR Board. Shifting the problem so to speak.

@TheMisterB2u 3 года назад

What an excellent video!I was a train driver for nearly 40 years and didn't know anything (but the name)about the history of these sets.Drivers cab guages do look so old fashioned(compared to external look),reminds me of the EPB stock I drove at Gillingham,until Networkers were introduced (1993).

@Rich72James 2 года назад

Extraordinary the prices people were prepared to pay!

@georgebuller1914 2 года назад

@@Rich72James Little - if any - real option I suppose...

@lawrencecody4085 Год назад

I were lucky enough to live in Cheadle Heath, and recall seeing the train for the first, time, on test, which would be early 1960..looking resplendent and ex works..it just looked amazing, amongst the dirt and grime of steam. I used to go to the station some mornings before school, as it arrived at Cheadle Heath around 8am,going south, and in summer would go back to see it arrive back to Manchester..I were enough lucky enough, on one occasion, for a steward to let me have a quick look inside, whilst it had stopped at Cheadle Heath..In 1969 we went on holiday to S.Devon, and I were so made up to see a 6-car Pullman set stabled at Bristol, I immediately recognised it as one of the Midland sets, it was now in the reverse Pullman livery..About15 years ago I were in a Wetherspoons in Birmingham started chatting to Aa chap who was an ex railwayman, and it transpired he worked on the test runs from Derby on the BP, and was not happy abojut the early starts from Derby, when the train was on its trials, I can`t tell you how made up I were to chat to soemone actually involved in the train that brings back my childhood days every time it is mentioned..all I could do was watch it arr/dep my local stn, its only calling point from Manchester to London,and return,,..or watch videos such as this about this short-lived train..I just wish I could have had a journey on it, even in one direction only..but it was not to be...Thanks for uploading this video, a great compliment to the well known BTF film(of which I noted quite a bit of footage from the BTF film, in this video).

@MrGuitarman1963 Год назад

Stunning looking train. I'm too young to remember them (only just ...) but the legacy lives on with the Midland Pullman.

@375-Gaming 3 года назад

I think its really sad that so many old magical things like this pull man, and British Leyland and others always fell by the wayside due to "management", and now that all we can remember about them...

@advancelast1740 3 года назад

less so management and more the unions and the likes if Red Robbo

@trevorhart545 Год назад

Agree, but Pullman was an American and we Brits had to pay to use the concept, hence why the Pullman company was bought by the Brits. It was a failure in the USA.

@MrJimheeren Месяц назад

It has more to do that an all first class train is not very viable, very snobbish and the trains were not very reliable.

@nigelt1218 3 года назад

Thank you for this very good documentary on the Blue Pullman. I recall seeing the sets at Reading in the early 1970's, running non-stop on down through platform 4. I did not realize how short their service life was. They still look contemporary, over 60 years after the initial design. I hope to have a ride on the LSL Pullman, sometime.

@cambo2910 3 года назад

I was a travelling technician on the Bristol Pullman in 1965, it was the worst organised railway service I ever witnessed during my forty six year career.

@markcousins9337 3 года назад

A prototype HST? The influences are clear.

@TIMBOWERMAN 3 года назад

Yeah, very good though the Blue Pullmans ran at 90 m.p.h (144 km/h), regular trains ran at 75 m.p.h (120 km/h) and were the inspiration for the HST which ran at 125 m.p.h. (201 km/h). The concept was sold to the Australians as the XPT ( speed 160 km/h or 100 m.p.h.). HST and XPT lasted forty years.

@shcdoodle1 3 года назад

@@TIMBOWERMAN XPTs are still kicking here, they have s few years left before they get replaced

@ianhudson2193 3 года назад

Apart from the total difference....

@simonblake5563 3 года назад

It provided a great model of the way forward. Beautiful train

@ianhudson2193 3 года назад

@@simonblake5563 Well.....a useful illuminated signpost how not to do it......probably why HST shared absolutely no features with Blue Pullman..

@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 3 года назад

i saw one of the east midlands railway hsts wearing the blue pullman livery on december 12th

@Leonard_Smith 3 года назад

An excellent archive of a bygone age on British Railways. Thank you.

@michaelwoods7046 3 года назад

I was a BR Traffic Management Trainee from September 1973. There was a Pullman Power Car in the West Bay platform as a standby generator - I wondered whether you would know that - and you did! Great video, well narrated.

@Shark30006 4 месяца назад

There was a proposed Blue Pullman from Kings Cross to Leeds and the name was the Kings Cross Pullman

@dpbuff 3 года назад

9:16 the unhappy look on the passenger's face when the guy next to him leans across

@johnpinckney4979 3 года назад

As a young child, I built a Kitmaster 00 scale Blue Pullman power car kit. Been looking on ePay over the last few years for one in N scale as I missed out on the original release. Beautiful train. Amtrash looks to have imitated the carriage scheme on their new Avelia Acela 2 trains... Great video...

@robinforrest7680 3 года назад

Another excellent informative film. Well done.

@77smp 3 года назад

Haven't I already watched this? Still, worth another watch...

@Miner4472 3 года назад

Yeah it's a reupload with some changes.

@davidw1518 3 года назад

Read the video description!

@kyle123481 3 года назад

Great video, one notable trip the Blue Pullman took was a trip to West Hartlepool from Coventry on Saturday 13th March 1965, on a charter for the Rugby Union Championship Final. The furthest north a Blue Pullman set got. -Kyle

@coben.13 3 года назад

Great and very interesting video, well done. 👍

@russellgxy2905 3 года назад

YES! This was how I discovered your channel!

@steelernation1989 2 года назад

Managed to catch the Pullman HST up here in the highlands of Scotland, LSL 37 lead the route sanding the line. Great to catch an HST this far north.

@alexn643 3 года назад

Awesome video Ruairidh. Really enjoyed watching 👍

@geoffreylee5199 2 года назад

Saw these as a little guy. Would blast through about 10:00 am out of St Pancras.

@mjc8281 2 года назад

My grandparents used to live very close to the line this train used out of Manchester I was always amazed that such a prestigious service would run on such a backwoods line(in the end I think the line was closed in the late 80s).

@Fonziedaz1 3 года назад

The blue Pullman were still in use when I was born in 1962❤️🧡

@henkbarnard1553 3 года назад

same

@trainluvr 3 года назад

@@henkbarnard1553 Really? A whole two years after introduction. A celebration is in order!

@henkbarnard1553 3 года назад

@@trainluvr I'd meet up for coffee/tea. But A. lockdown B. I'm in Vancouver Canada

@stephencb9234 3 года назад

Also born in 1962 so likewise but too young to see anything of them - only pictures, videos and the latest LSL version recently

@timosha21 2 года назад

Choo choo! I'm a train and I approve this video!

@nojebs 3 года назад

An excellent video, many thanks!

@HSMiyamoto 3 года назад

The Blue Pullmans were like the all-First Class Trans Europe Express trains on the Continent. Costly to run, costly to ride, and ultimately replaced by regular interval corridor trains.

@stevedunningduckinggiraffe6296 3 года назад

That footage of the Blue Pullmans in action was shot on 35mm movie stock believe it or not, and the aerial shots were shot from a helicopter with a camera mount rigged up with Dexion shelving steel - very heat hrobinson! The original film in HD is still superb over 60 years later.

@michaelmontagu3979 6 месяцев назад

I travelled on the Blue Pullman several times. Far more comfortable than modern trains with their seats that look like, and feel like, ironing boards.

@channelone4655 Год назад

When my dad was selling off all his model trains, I asked to keep this one, along with an engineering drawing of the train which I still have to this day.

@Clivestravelandtrains 3 года назад

Great video as usual from Ruairidh, thanks. Maybe today's GWR management and the Department of Transport should watch this to really know how dreadful the new trains on the Penzance-London run are!

@peters1127 3 года назад

Thank you for the video. This was a Beautiful Train and great story but a sad ending.

@paulkirkland3263 3 года назад

I remember these from my train set as a boy. Never saw a real one, however. Great video, very interesting.

@stephaniekent8483 3 года назад

I didn't see it either, mores the pity, but have an original boxed set by triang hornby and she still runs great :)

@flippop101 3 года назад

Superb video, well researched and nicely presented.

@rayaspo4893 3 года назад

Yet another quality, informative video. Thank you.

@mikep4821 3 года назад

Interesting to see so many shots of interfering management getting in on the act in the power car cabs and elsewhere.

@likklej8 3 года назад

I used to spot them coming through St Albans you could hear the units coming before they arrived.

@jeffreymcneal1507 3 года назад

A concise and well narrated video. Most interesting.

@lukegreen5341 Год назад

0:22 Awesome Blue Pullman Trains Mate. X

@Scots_Diesel 3 года назад

I've one of the original menues/publicity materisl from this service

@TheGalacticEmperorOfLabels 3 года назад

Hang onto that. Probably already worth a mint.

@thefettfan3994 3 года назад

I do hope that the featured 2021 new Pullman (the ex IC 125 train set) is successful. It looks the role part indeed. Rock On! I say!!!!

@nikerailfanningttm9046 Год назад

The Blue Pullman was the most beautiful rake of coaches and power cars in my honest opinion. Shame none of the power cars were preserved

@3xfaster 2 года назад

“Non-standard” such a venomous word.

@AndrewG1989 2 года назад

The Blue Pullman HST is the most iconic and well loved train.

@robertpalmer5803 Год назад

I used to go to Denham station after school when i wad a kid and watch this train come through...one day it broke down in Denham station and they sent a steam engine out to tow it i believe on to High Wycombe...was a Hall that towed it i believe...its 2022 now and that happened in 1961...Denham station had 4 lines then...2 through ones and 2 platform loops...a signal box and a 6 road goods yard...happy days....im living in Paignton Devon now...Bob Palmer....

@TheDaf95xf 3 года назад

Fantastic story well told. I only saw them on the scrap lines at OOC in 74. The shed Forman told us that the rest were at Bristol Philps Park Rd. so we jumped a train firm Paddington and saw the rest woohoo 🙌 No camera though 🙄

@petergilbert72 3 года назад

Shockingly high ticket price (at current prices). The M4 was being constructed through the 60s and was largely finished by 1971 offering fast independent travel to the capital.

@nicklarge007 3 года назад

What a crying shame none were preserved, imagine the money they would make nowadays! Saw the Class 43 Pullman through our local branch station in Nov 2020, looked immaculate!!

@peterbattey8263 3 года назад

An original film can be seen on the British Transport Films Collection Vol. 1 disc 1 entitled "Blue Pullman (1960). A vast amount of similar films can be purchased from the British Film Institute and come under the titles of "The British Transport Films Collection Vols 1 to 5 where you will find some very informative films from 1949 through to the eighties.

@JetDom767 3 года назад

Fantastic video Ruairidh I have an old poster which I framed of the Blue Pullman. Its a shame none survived into preservation

@JohnSmith-bx8zb 3 года назад

Driver training over the Settle Carlisle from Carlisle, Hellifield, Blackburn, Lostock Hall, Wigan, Crewe for crew training over several days.

@uncinarynin 3 года назад

As I understand it the end of the Blue Pullman also marks the end of regular first class only trains on the British isles? I see a lot of similarity with the first generation diesel TEE sets of 1957 which all ended their TEE service around in the early 1970s (the French RGP even earlier), being too slow (140 km/h), too short, too diesel while in the 1960s many lines were upgraded to 160 to 200 km/h and electrified, demand outgrew the capacity of the first generation trains and multisystem electric locomotives/units for international service were developed. The German VT11 continued to be used as inland intercity a few years (some sets even converted to gas turbines), later as seasonal holiday trains. The Swiss/Dutch RAm were sold to Canada and operated there as Northlander. The French RGP went on inland lines from 1965 and were later converted as regional trains. The Italian ALn 442 were used on inland lines until the 1980s and later maintained as occasional special trains until 1995. Unfortunately none of these are preserved operational. An attempt to restore a German VT11 as a cruise train equipped to the latest safety standards was aborted for cost overruns, the rolling stock now stands in the museums of Koblenz and Augsburg.

@johnd8892 3 года назад

The TEE even inspired some landmark new music styles. Here with great film of the superior DB VT11.5 version of the TEE trains: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JKHfSwoALYE.html

@RUOKH 3 года назад

Loved those Diesel TEE trains. Remember the Edelweiss from Bruxelles to Basel?

@paul.l.haywood2421 3 года назад

Love these trains great work.

@johnclarke2997 Год назад

Saturday 04 February 2023 - just watched the LSL Blue Pullman over the Settle to Carlisle with 43059 and 43055 power cars. Doing Cardiff to Carlisle via S&C and back down to Cardiff on the WCML.

@MrJimheeren Месяц назад

It can’t be just me, but these Blue Pullman trains have a sad looking face right. The front windows gives this train a crying look

@Shark30006 13 дней назад

It’s so sad that none of the Blue Pullman sets were ever preserved. It would have been better if we had two sets of the Blue Pullman preserved for the National Collection. For the National Collection, two Blue Pullman sets that were wished to be preserved: the Midland Pullman and Birmingham Pullman sets

@AllensTrains 3 года назад

I have got the Bachmann Midland Pullman. It is interesting to know the history of it. There does not seem to be any cine footage of the Western Pullman which is also available from Bachmann as a train set which is hugely expensive, like its real-life counterpart! Thanks for uploading.

@stevehallam0850 3 года назад

I remember these at Bristol Temple Meads.

@janeswift9961 3 года назад

I saw one in the "graveyard" at Swindon. I think it was still painted blue rather than the "reverse" livery, but I could be wrong about that.

@andrewbennett7756 Месяц назад

I can rember these in my younger years great looking train when I was 20 I saved hard for a ride on one it was not much but at the a few weeks of hard work

@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 3 года назад

very informative. thank you

@JimbobsTransportVideos 3 года назад

I saw the Blue Pullman HST 2020 Set it was a very nice train

@Robslondon 3 года назад

Great video

@ddpeak1 Год назад

Thanks I enjoyed that.

@grahamsawyer831 3 года назад

& now come full circle with the blue pullman HST!

@narglefargle 3 года назад

I just now realized that I bought some of your stuff on Redbubble...and I've been subscribed for months. Your "Run Forever" piece will be on my wall next week. As per usual, quality video.

@donovanemery597 Год назад

The HST form I have seen on the East Lancs Railway at Bury Bolton Street

@michaelstaley2241 3 года назад

Yes very nostalgic it’s a pity one wasn’t preserved very interesting and historically factual. I remember these from my childhood.👍😎

@rogerking7258 4 месяца назад

A gorgeous looker with many intrinsic problems. I can't help but think that the passenger compartments in the power cars must have been very noisy.

@philiptebb1460 3 года назад

Travelled from Temple Meads to Paddington every month during the early sixties. Marvellous breakfast for ten shillings all the toast and coffee you could eat . Train travel was worthwhile then

@rickyreed8354 3 года назад

the driver in the white coat was Ernie morris sadly killed in the knowle and dorridge crash

@Aengus42 3 года назад

I remember these sets in the Hornby Catalogue. Iconic looking power cars, especially from the front. @11:40 'twas strange that the drivers were dressed up like milkman!

@newcastlerabbit 3 года назад

Great documentary

@WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 3 года назад

They were so ahead of the time! The Intercity-125 of the late-1950's

@dancedecker 3 года назад

Thanks for a wonderful video I always liked these trains and so to see the new HST version shows just what an influence they had with their distinctive Nanking blue colour. Saw the set the other day at Crewe and all that saw it there were seemingly very impressed Shame none got preserved but on reading the reasons, I can understand why it didn't happen. Many thanks again.

@tillythegreatdane2072 3 года назад

thank you

@Shark30006 8 месяцев назад

The Blue Pullman was the early version of the HSTs.

@danielnesbitt9565 9 дней назад

Just imagine if these had been intended as the standard BR InterCity fleet back then.

@andrewdarley8988 3 года назад

In our mid teens I and a train enthusiasts friend saved up to treat ourselves to a ride on the Birmingham Pullman (second class). It was a big disappointment. Yes the ride was harsh although that did give an impression of speed. The biggest problem was that the seals on most of the windows had failed and on a bright but cold January day the build up of condensation meant that we couldnt see out and the Pullman conductor objected to us standing in the festival where the door windows didn't have this problem.

@johnd8892 3 года назад

"standing in the festival" ?

@CaseyJonesNumber1 3 года назад

@@johnd8892 obviously 'vestibule', but 'festival' is funnier! 😆

@richard1342 3 года назад

These units were relatively underpowered, poor riding (as noted in the video), with noisy passenger compartments which were part of the two engine cars, and had an extremely small cabs at each end. The real issue about the Blue Pullman, is that it directly led to the highly successful and more widely used HST (hence the very similar look) during the 1970's. So all was not lost by any measure.