Hard rock is “state of the art” bc it has state of the art technology and has been totally renovated with new concourses new suites new seating new media boards new everything. Organizations and fans need to get it out of their head that they need a “new” or “futuristic” stadium every thirty years. The best stadiums are stadiums that last millennia not decades.
@@daviejz6698 That's not why. Besides, tax payers split the bill mostly for new stadiums and not owners. The real reason was after the Marlins park debacle, county officals weren't going to vote on a new stadium for the dolphins. A rennovation was the only option to dolphins stadium.
@@RhinoXpressthe Cheifs should have beaten the Royals to Downtown Kansas city...now if Cheifs ask for tax payer money for a new sradium...its gonna be hard
@@bpar73Hard rock stadium maybe the only venue that has hosted many super bowls being outside. Everywhere it’s always dome dome dome which is kinda boring imo.
We may be reaching a point where taxpayers are going to refuse to pay for new stadiums. The NFL makes a huge amount of money. The NFL should be able to finance its own stadiums.
That greedy egotistical league would rather relocate than give a single cent. No matter team history or fan loyalty. That league is that greedy and petty
@@VTPSTTU Oddly, the Patriots paid for their own stadium TWICE. Schaefer Stadium was built for the bargain price of $7 million. It wasn't fancy, but it did have the best sightlines in the NFL.
Amen! Can't stand all these teams playing indoors/ retractable roof stadiums, football is meant to be outdoors in real grass plus the advantages of having teams play in 90 degree heat in Sept/ oct is a a thing( not that I care bout them but can't stomach watching raiders games in doors, kills their whole mystique from the 70s and 80s when they were renegades/ intimidators) part of the pussification of sports, all bout who got the prettiest stadium ,love rayjay its home sweet home.
@@supasmitsSports stadiums nowadays focus much more heavily on fan comfortability rather than the sporting events being played. Retractable roof stadiums were created exactly for the reason of spectator comfort, Idk about you, but I’d rather sit in a comfortable seat in a retractable roof-climate controlled stadium, especially during either the summer down south, or up north during fall and winter rather than an architecturally boring open air stadium with absolutely zero roof to protect fans from the brutal heat for a few of the first nfl games during regular season and preseason. Don’t get me wrong, Raymond James Stadium is an excellent NFL/College Football/Soccer stadium already as it is, the capacity isn’t too low nor is it too high for college and nfl games. There’s plenty of suites, fans are much closer to the action than a lot of other similar stadiums and the pirate ship is a nice touch, but the biggest issues that are growing is the fact it’s a completely open air stadium in one of the most southern cities in the country sitting not too far north of Miami, which is an extremely hot and humid city already, and it’s more closer to the equator than Houston, San Antonio, and Austin TX, and keep in mind the nearly every professional sports team in Texas is either indoor, retractable roof, or has a large overhanging roof specifically for the purpose of protecting fans from the sun and other elements. Examples are Globe Life Field in Arlington, TX (Texas Rangers/Retractable roof) Minute Maid Park in Houston (Houston Astros/Retractable roof), NRG Stadium (Houston Texans/Retractable roof), AT&T Stadium (Dallas Cowboys/Retractable roof), and there’s quite a few others I could name off but it would take me forever too. Considering how hot it is down in the part of the world they’re located in, it makes sense. Yet Tampa Bay which is more southern than any of those cities/stadiums has NO roof covering any part of the stadium and there really isn’t enough suites to make up for the heat. I get the NFL is during the fall and winter besides for the preseason and some beginning regular season games but it’s the most logical option to place some sort of covering. I’m hoping the Bucs put together a few hundred million to renovate the stadium and add a roof exactly like what the Miami Dolphins did with Hard Rock Stadium as it was a completely open air stadium prior to 2016.
There is nothing wrong with Raymond James except it gets very hot on day games. Shade would be nice. I hope the Rays move to Ybor City but an outdoor stadium is out of the question ..Too hot these days..and it always rains in the summer afternoons.
I don’t understand your logic saying Tampa doesn’t have a good fan base, when their HOCKEY team ranks third in attendance! Hockey is the last sport you’d think would succeed in Tampa or Florida, however it has and that’s because the team has great ownership, Amalie Arena was built in 1996 has had several renovations including an area outside where fans gather to watch the game on a big screen. Again, if hockey can succeed in Tampa, there’s no reason football and baseball can’t unless ownership isn’t committed which is very questionable with the Rays and the Glazer family already threatened move the franchise once in mid 90s after purchasing the team if they didn’t get a new stadium. Tampa has hosted 5 Super Bowls, Tropicana Field hosted an NCAA Final Four in 1999. It would beneficial for the Glazer family to pony up the money to build a new indoor stadium for the Buccaneers with a transcendent roof. The Tampa area continues to grow in population, this idea that is some small town with no fans is false, again look at the Tampa Bay Lightning as evidence, again they play hockey, how can hockey succeed and not baseball and football? Time start calling out these owners, and have them put their money where their mouth is. And why are the Lightning in the top 5 of attendance in the NHL and the NFL, MLB in middle to bottom? Well besides ownership, they have great on ice product, location of the arena. Raymond James Stadium doesn’t have much shade, it’s hot down there, I personally avoid day games in the summer here in Detroit at Comerica Park for lack of shade, so I get it, why would benefit the Bucs to build an indoor stadium. They just finally built an indoor practice facility after all these years! Florida is hot AF, so if the Glazers ponied up a big chunk of the new stadium they’ll make that money back ten fold, hosting more Super Bowls, then they’ll definitely get the Final Four, Raymond James Stadium has already hosted the CFP National Championship, this is a city that has hosted big events and is only growing in population so the slander of the fans is incorrect. Go look at Tony Dungy, Joe Maddon, John Gruden, where do they live? In the Tampa Bay area! Because it’s a great spot that continues grow in population. Again call out these owners, wish Lightning owner Jeffrey Vinik would purchase the Rays, Bill Davidson who won 3 NBA Championships with the Detroit Pistons, purchase the Lightning in the late 90s as a flounder expansion team, 2004 they won the Stanley Cup, Bill Davidson passed away in 2009 and sold the Lightning in 2008. What I’m tired of is the corporate welfare these billionaires are given, they have the money to fund these stadiums, look at Stan Kronke with Sofi Stadium, Steve Balmer funding the Clippers new arena, these guys have the money and will make a great return on their investment. I’m tired of fans being crapped on while incompetent and or frugal ownership receive a pass. I love see all major cities in the United States get together and collude that that they will not use tax dollars to fund, renovate any stadium.
The bucs dont need a new stadium, we still have one of the best stadiums in the league, nobody has a pirate ship like us. The Rays need a new stadium if any tampa team does
The funny thing is the Lightning have the longest sellout streak in professional sports since March 2015 so it’s not a city issue. I think it gets done, Tampa Bay is too large of an area and to giant of a population the area needs a state of the art stadium. But Hillsborough County tax payers aren’t going to pay for it this time.
@@americandeathtrip6881 thats not true. The Lightning currently have the longest active sellout streak in the NHL at over 300 games. Boston, Pittsburgh, Nashville and Chicago all have had long sellout streaks end within the last 2-3 seasons.
I'm Sorry but is wrong with this Stadium? It is FAR from boring, I mean come on, the Pirate Ship in the End zone is one of the coolest features in the NFL!!!
I know this might be a little over the top. But it would be pretty unique if the Bucs build a futuristic stadium in the shape of a modern day ship. Like a titanic museum but it’s a huge stadium that would be fye 🤔🤔🔥🔥
It'a a crazy idea, but then it isn't. RayJay was the first stadium to incorporate a specific theme into their stadium referring to the team's identity. They could take it one step further, but before they do, it would require A LOT of community feedback. That sort of decision isn't a one off thing in the end zone, like with the pirate ship now. I like the idea for its boldness, but it won't happen.
You're whole video, is off base and speaking of fans the bucs have a loyal base. I'm born and raised here in Tampa we have legions of transplants namely Philly, Chicago, and newyork. These damn people move here and keep their Allegiance, tampa has strong fans don't give me that BS, we can't help it if we live in a free state full of sunshine people from up North move down here by the boatload. Hell before the Brady era we went through 10 plus years of losing
It's proximity to the airport has made RayJay a great statium as its very easy to bus in VIPs. It's unlikely ANYTHING will be build in Ybor that isn't HOUSING. Also Tampa's tax payers are likely not intrestrd in any new statiums anytime soon, it still easlily sells out for events, like Taylor Swift. Ironcily its right next door to the Yankees Steinbrenner Field. I've always found it strange that the Rays were in St Pete, and the Yankees in Tampa. The spring training games are always packed, of course, the srping is often cooler here in Florida.
I know that this may be an unpopular opinion: but I'm actually getting tired of seeing all of these new stadiums either being either domes or retractable roofs. I get it, Raymond James is not the newest thing on earth, but if you keep doing the same thing, over and over, it can get tiresome. Personally, I would have a multipurpose stadium kind of like Lumen Field in Seattle, built to host BOTH Football and Soccer because Tampa, is also a hotbed for soccer and could be a potential Hotspot for an MLS franchise. Think of like the Mercedez-Benz Stadium-type situation
Yes, Raymond James could live on as a soccer venue, and that's not such a bad thing. USF could be partnered with, to help with design and cost-sharing, as they want digs of their own, too.
@@GrizrazRex the funny thing is it was actually BUILT for soccer...... for Tampa Bays OG MLS Team the Tampa Bay, Mutiny but they never stuck around too long unfortunately...
@@davidpeters2625 You sir are spot on when it comes to football stadiums. I’m glad the Bills decided to go with an outdoor venue and hopefully the buccaneers will keep Raymond James as it is. Football is meant to be played outside.
If the Bucs really want a new stadium in my view (or even renovating Raymond James), the Glazers should sell Man United in order to finance it. This makes sense in my view because Man United's global fan base is absolutely livid with the state of their club under the Glazers ownership especially when it comes to the on field product, though it is better than what it was a decade ago. Also Old Trafford (where Man United play) is in desperate need of a renovation & the Glazers don't want to pay for it which is why a change in ownership is needed.
I got news for you buddy, soldier field is going to be torn down eventually for a new domed stadium. Eventually we could see only the packers have an outdoor venue.
@@Mrcharles. Ugh. Guess thats the new NFL. First take the big hits out of the game then the storied venues go away as well. I will have to get there 1 more time before its gone.
Do something like Miami, cover the stands at most, with plenty of ventilation areas. This stadium still looks really good, getting a new stadium every 30 years is kind of a joke. These new ones are in the 1.5 to 2.0 Billion dollars. No more domed stadiums either.
Raymond James Stadium only needs updates, demolishing it doesn't make sense, we're not talking about a Tropicana Field. And I dissagree is not the greatest but is a very good one
Their issue is they play in Nissan stadium with a pirate ship. Basically Marsha Brady with a boob job. It needs a massive facelift or a new stadium entirely.
Jack Murphy Stadium prior to its demolition is likely the closest you’ll get to a modern baseball/football dual use stadium in modern times (2000-). Ginger and fivepointsvids both have great videos explaining why they failed and why a dual use stadium nowadays is completely irrelevant.
@@fadercreek I was just kidding, but that’s what they’ll say next I’m just thinking that if these owners want to build a new stadium every 20 yrs then just say that. How bout just take care of the stadiums they’ve got and just play the games.
The Stadium needs an overhaul, but not a demolition... its still way better than that "Sombrero" we had originally that you would cook in the Florida sun while watching the game.
A lot of people don’t realize Nissan stadium and Raymond James are carbon copies of one another swap the pirate town for the old west town.. but my point is that the titans are about to build a new stadium.. it’s time for Tampa to do the same
Where do you get this stuff? lol Roofs and coverings are for wimps! I've been a STM for the Bucs for 30 years, and I follow them very closely. Nothing you talk about has ever even been mentioned. I don't understand your fascination with domes, but everybody that goes to a Bucs game knows and expects what it's going to be like, and that's hot. I think if the team were demanding things, it would be public by now considering there's only a few years left of that contract, but I will say that the Glazer family is very much imbedded in the community, and any situation would be delt with.
I feel like I'm always disagreeing with your stadium videos. But I think you are wrong and maybe you just dont go to RJS. It's a nice stadium. I've been to others and RJS isn't fancy and space aged. But the glazers have kept up with the times and renovated alot here and there. RJS is a great stadium compared to 70% of stadiums in the NFL
I think the biggest opportunity with RayJay is building an entertainment district on the property between the Bucs' HQ and the north parking lot. There was a mall there decades ago that's since been demolished. Even if they eventually build a new stadium on the north lot, it's still near the property. With a canopy, sideline/end zone suites, and maybe some concession stand updates, RayJay can easily host another Super Bowl and be the Bucs home for another 12-15 years.
That article sounds exactly like a Tampa Bay Rays article first of all that’s the only 🏟️ issue /dialogue here & Very Bland??? Respectfully it’s in the hottest state in the country it has to be very open with the ship 🚢 in it it’s above 22 to a lot of people 💯
A nice looking 25 year old stadium and it’s done? I’m not buying it. And it had a $150 million renovation within the last 10 years? You say $150 million like it’s nothing but stadiums used to be constructed for $150 million in today dollars. Now it’s in the billions.
Agreed, I think that the Bucs could easily do a renovation to RJS that involves adding a roof. You were spot on that it looks like it's already waiting for a roof, and they can use the open space at the ends for luxury suites, etc.
The fan base is mixed due to transplants faithful to their teams …snowbirds etc how many times does it get ignored!!!! N the Rays finalized by the way on a big deal 😂😂😂
Tampa will get a new stadium or have to spend almost a billion on renovations, because the NFL will pressure them into it or else they wont host another superbowl.
USF is building their own football stadium. Hopefully after it's done. Hopefully the owner can take opportunity to renovate or new Ray Jay stadium. Bucs can play at USF stadium temporary..
If there’s any chance the Rays move to Orlando. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bucs follow them. Especially if the Camping World Stadium renovation are done in such a way to attract an NFL team.
@@mrbob8618idk why we would care what Jacksonville has to say they don't even want to bring the team down here to play in Orlando while they renovate the stadium plus with tourist tax we could eventually get a new stadium in Orlando
After the Rays finally reached an agreement to build their new 30,000-seat ballpark in St. Petersburg for the 2028 MLB season, maybe the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will move into Tropicana Field for the 2028 NFL season.
We are Tampa Bay Buccaneers Fans they need to have a dome because of the Florida Weather The Tampa Bay Rays or getting a new ballpark with a dome built
Every major U.S. city needs to stop spending money on new stadiums. If each of these cities tell sports owners to drop dead and call the owners "I'm relocating" bluff, the owners would be stuck.
Could not agree more. I think people are finally starting to see it. Its absurd they are getting any money from taxpayers and yes I like the NFL, that does not mean the tax payers should be footing the bill for these stadiums. Teams have funding them without taxpayer money.
Ya they are going to need a roof on their stadium or a new stadium soon. With the new domed stadium trend going through the NFL right now, the Bucs stadium is looking older and older
The Bucs are worth $2.28 billion, up ten-fold from when Glazer purchased the team. That's a pretty good return even for a franchise that now asking for a new building. Beyond absurd tax payers are paying for any of these stadiums. Owners can fund them off future worth and profits they simply want a hand out. How much more are the Bucks going to be worth if they get a new stadium at tax payers expense ? Cities can help put a deal together but should be paid back evey cent. Vikings crafted a deal to that extent where the City issued bonds and owned part of the building received revenue back until the bonds were paid off by the team. Vikings paid off all the Bonds 20 years early and now the City does not have any further obligation to the Vikings or the stadium. The Vikings now own the building and get all the revenue from it. Any argument about jobs is a full blown horse sh*&. They provide short term construction jobs and a handfull of low paying jobs, hardly the jobs creations the arguments make.
RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM IS ONE OF THE TOP 10 NFL STADIUMS IN THE NATION, ACCORDING TO USA TODAY. WHETHER IT GETS RENOVATED OR REPLACED, THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS WILL REMAIN IN TAMPA!
Let them relocate… Personally, for only 8-9 home dates/year.. the ROI is not there. These teams pay a pitiful amount for rent that don’t even cover what it costs the city/state to maintain it. Game days don’t make the area anywhere near enough $$$ to cover what they spend to build it. The time is coming when cities will just tell them to leave.. not going to build it… LA and Oakland have already done it… SoFi was built with private funds… LA refused to do more than help acquire the land… Oakland… the Raiders are gone and the A’s are trying to… The Raiders were petulant children and the A’s won’t field a team… Other cities will follow.. even more so now that the economy is in the toilet… Let the team built it themselves or move.. the rebranding their team alone will cost them almost as much as the stadium would have been worth… at least MLB hosts 81 games/year.. here.. 8or 9… then the ticket prices will be so high that hell, you could make your car payment with the same money… let them leave.
😂😂 and yet I guarantee that the cities and county will still pay up. Oakland thought they were gonna start a revolution and lost all their teams...none of those citt council members will be voted back in. So who won again???
I agree. Look at these owners of Pro Sports. They are huge millionaires or some Billionaires. Let them finance their loan internally. Lay off the taxpayers who get hosed time and time again.
@@SKS8080 Here is one thing to think about… who built Wrigley field? Fenway Park? Ebbets Field? The orininal Yankee Stadium? and many other fields in that ERA… The teams themselves… Why should the taxpayers foot the bill for a single purpose stadium… then be force to pay ticket prices to use the dump? They shouldn’t… LA said no paying for SoFi… Oakland has been resistant… the problem is.. cities know re-location is not as viable for Football or Baseball as it once was. If they toe the line.. teams will finally do what the Rams did and the Bears are planning… building it themselves with private funding… I can see the arenas for Hockey or basketball… they are not single use arenas.. great for concerts as well… but baseball and even worse.. Football… so big and so limiting.. football is the worst as so few home games… at least baseball has 81 home games…
@@sirchi8731 The A’s haven’t left yet.. and the Las Vegas deal is not done.. running into road blocks of its own. Still, Vegas is a much smaller market than Oakland.. So with the poortly run A’s.. who would win? Vegas would probably Rue the day they agreed to the stadium within only a few years… and Oakland.. Less hassles from an owner with more demands.. and I’m not even counting the Raiders.. they have trouble staying for more than 20 years in one place anyway. 20 years from now, they give Vegas the shaft too…
@@ronpeacock9939 Raiders and Oakland should have worked on a public and private financed new nfl stadium. It would have been expensive but Oakland should have did it. Either way Sheng tao and her council members 2wouldn't he re elected anyway. Its gonna take a man to bring back sports to the east bay
I agree it's time for a new stadium I don't think physically it looks bad it's just the location it's too inland the team's theme is based around pirates and why not have a waterfront spot? Tampa is not a giant marquis city like NY, LA or Chicago people exaggerate traffic concerns. Raymond James is in the middle of nowhere down the block from the airport too far away from anywhere cool
@@Captain_Cups Im from Tampa, but I lived in Orlando for 10 years. And for those 10 years you want to know what I did? I drove to St Pete to watch games. But the Tampa bay fan is too lazy to cross a 25 minute bridge? The owner is cheap and stuck in his ways, he personal development Interest in st Pete that’s why he stubbornly wants to keep the team there, the team is not coming to Hillsborough county, so before they approve another stadium in St Pete that fans will be too lazy to drive to, then yes, let the team go, let them flourish in the Kissimmee/ Orlando market, you don’t know what you have until you loose it.
