Weirdly enough, many programs are getting the same architecture of 3 drones or UAV/UCAV configuration. It reminds me directly of the FCAS program, which is the other European 6th gen fighter project lead by Dassault with its partners AirBus, Thales, MBDA, Indra, SNECMA, SAFRAN, etc ... The FCAS is ambitious too, but in a more realistic way.
4:01 "Basically, this is the best you can have in Europe if you exclude the French" Frenchies, sitting on Rafales: _Hon! Hon! Hon! Nobody excludes the French, the French exclude you!_
France is cooperating with Germany and Spain on making FCAS. The original FCAS, the one before the Brits changed the name of their program from Tempest in to - also FCAS. Dassault, Airbus, Indra, Safran, Thales, MBDA -basicaly the best in Europe excluding the UK. Given this is developed for the three larges EU nations - Germany, France and Spain i'm not sure to whom will post Brexit UK be selling its fighter.
@@uegvdczuVF The issue is that Germany spends next to nothing on its military, and Spain will buy a token fleet to complement its F-35Bs. France will be the primary end user and will dictate development, which (like the Eurofighter project) will cause division and infighting given the usual arrogance of the French when it comes to... everything. The Tempest project is on much steadier ground, and there is talk that Japan could be joining the team.
Dude, you are so knowledgeable.. why are you not getting paid to design aircraft? Or do you work in aviation? Your knowledge is really impressive. You also seem like a great guy. Love the content!
The information I have so far is that the US tested a demonstrator, not a prototype, to investigate some technology or technologies. Do you have any source for your information?
@@chefchaudard3580 Yes, People like to grant things so much fast and easily to USA. The propaganda and brainwashing is even more efficient than they'd have ever imagine !
14:05 _"Nobody is thinking that the plane is more effective without the pilot."_ Unless industry consultants have gotten _at all_ smarter since I worked with them back in the day, I would _guarantee_ that someone IS thinking that _exact_ thing. 15:59 Case in point? The dude who thought up that _Effectors_ *B.S.* I can also guarantee that someone will be saying that this aircraft HAS NOT been "designed"... It has been _"architected."_
My spontanius comment is that Sweden and SAAB should leave this program as fast as possible and go for a small one engine steahlt plane with a dubble canard made of the best RAM material possible. There is already a steahlt Jas that was not chosen due to cost. SAAB should go for a fighter solution. The Jas E will in 2035 reach its first upgrade and it will still be a dagnerus opponent. There is a need for a new pure fighter aircraft for Sweden in 2040. I would sugest SAAB goes for such an aircraft. A Jas E siced modular steaht plane with a mac 2,5 capacity and a combat range of 1800 km. This would demand a plane that uses more carbon fibre and less aluminum. An even more tilted radar and a forvard and backward locking IRST system that can rotate to cover 180°. It is little use to ad backward looking radar system when missiles and planes becomes steahtier. GaN tech will make gen 5 planes rather unmodern within the next 15 years. Lazer weapons do need an enormus amount of energy and will mostly be used on ships and ground for the next 30 years or untill a functioning superconductor is invented. There is also a nasty risk that a quantum radar is opperative within the next 30 years. If so laser resistent materials and anti missile missiles becomes mor important than Electronic warfare.
oh boy, that full touchscreen thing is going to kill people. the problem with complex softwares that have a small user base is that debugging is always inefficient, there is always corner cases no one though about and no one finds them until years later, I often find some in specialized lab equipment. Now when it's an aircraft with a pilot inside... ew. you always want at least the primary controls to be bug-proof : trust, direction, landing gear and eject, don't let that anywhere close to all this fancy high-tech stuff. Your display being stuck or not registering input for a few seconds can litterally kill you.
A stealthy 6th Gen fighter? The elephant in the room here is the Quantum Radar which renders stealth tech 100% useless. Radar low observability may be obsolete in a few years.
@@mikewade777 Quantum Radar can theoriticaly give you real time images from Mars. Imagine what this can do on Earth. Every major and minor power is working on this technology.
Or they can take a play from Samsung and Apple's rule book and just skip ten models at a time. Next stop, 16th generation. That'll get the bids rolling in.😂
All "future aircraft" from every country = Buzzword BINGO Baloney Yea yea, they will be the best at everything, over perform expectations, come in under budget, be produced sooner than expected, and cost next to nothing for maintenance...
@@arkadeepkundu4729 They already had a senior engineer in Rolls Royce stealing everything he could gain access to. Same thing with Pratt & Whitney and GE. China is struggling to build a modern fighter engine that will last more than a few hundred hours. They can imitate, but not replicate.
@@munmunhazarika5247 LMAO, wrong. Firstly, your country picked Raffale instead of Grippen E, which is a more expensive yet less effective weapon system. Secondly, a Grippen E would eat a Tejas 1 or 2 for breakfast due to its system integration, super-maneuverability, thrust to weight ratio, and armament. Edit: Oh and don't forget the fact that Grippen E has a world-class EW system. Tejas at present, does not. Tejas was a homemade interim choice that doesn't even meet IAF requirements.
Hahaha the science fiction chapter was even a bigger laughing time ! Millennium 7* you're definitely the best humorist in military technologies ! Seriously, I didn't believed all these science fiction things too, when I first saw it months ago. 👍😉
i love "Effectors", instead of bombs today we say Effectors 🤔 this political correctness shit, only because today's public want hear deadly, they have to invent new names, so funny😄 like smart bombs, sounds as it would kill only people with bad intention, but it will kill everybody, depends only of the order, this bombs detonate no matter if it are civilian or not
Especially after post-Covid Britain. Have you seen how much the GDP shrank? Expect a decade of extreme austerity, collapsing industries, and joblessness. BAE Systems and Rolls Royce are fragile at the best of times, with massive job losses. And we're far from the best of times
@@Renegade-Master-88 Yes... Expect to see a lot of infrastructure projects too as the Government tries to inject money into the economy. Also, that's after the double-whammy of Brexit and Covid.
@@energiam880 More austerity policies are unlikely in the current political climate, given their failure to turn the economy around over the last decade, Also, Covid-19 has actually made government intervention via fiscal stimulus more, not less, likely. In particular, commercial aviation has been badly affected by the pandemic and it will take several years for demand for flights to return. This has in turn resulted in a lack of demand for commercial engines, resulting in layoffs, including at Rolls Royce, who need "Team Tempest" to kick start their recovery.
Tempest can actually be an amazing platform. UK has the engine technology … most difficult to develop and Sweden has experience developing a really well balanced, relatively cheap and multi role fighter.
Military Technology videos are typically a bit grim and humorless. This is really fun! It's not just anyone that can add humor into these topics. It has to be done the right way. Well done. Count me a fan!
Yeah.... it’s “coming”. At least 10 years before its first flight, another 3 to 5 before its live. Not to mention the political opponents it’ll face to try and stop its development. At least these videos keep the comments coming though.
The money is really going to be risky to commit to the concept. I can see multiple parliaments not funding it at the rate that it needs to build momentum. That's also assuming the contractors can actually meet any of these requirements.
Considering all the beautiful yet very effective jets SAAB have built, I really hope the final product isn't that bulbous looking thing with a huge price tag and it needing to scrap BAS90
why do you need vectoring or a heat sink when you are using FLAVIIR?, also they won't be removing the stick, the point of it obviously is the software vs hardware upgradability, if it's not function critical, removing it removes the main maintenance cost overheads and facilitates upgradability with software version updates vs physical hardware, also the final version of the lanca will hopefully be able to finally get the name designation "spitfire" as hypothetically an air superiority AI driven drone in a swarm formation that can pull more g's than a human laden aircraft effectively smokes any exclusively human piloted counterpart.
Voice commands? Still cannot imagine the pilot speaking to his aircraft while pulling 4-6 Gs... Or having a conversation with the AI while trying to outpace and outsmart enemy fighters, in order to complete the primary mission.
You think of the number of patents filed per plane and then the sale of the intellectual property the world over Japan, Israel, Australia and Qatar would pay a arms and a leg to mess existing systems with newer ones. Any company within reason can with profit maximisation grow competitively with a market leading product.
@@f-35lightningii6 you didn't get the reference. "You must think in russian" is a quote from Firefox, a Clint Estwood movie. In the movie, the secret stealth and superfast aircraft is the Mig-31 "Firefox" ( nothing to do with the real Mig-31 Foxhound).
Honestly the magnets on the compressor blade tips were the most eyebrow raising thing to me. Quite clever thinking on creating electrical power though. Although I am dubious as to the virtual cockpit, VR tech has come a long way but we are not there yet IMO. Good and informative as always, although the music again seemed a tad loud during your narration and explanations. Better than the last one though.
This story of magnets or any other complex things like that, it's just good to make the aircraft not reliable at all. This tempest will be a new f35 full of problems.
its not going to be ready till at least 2035 so basically in 20 years we'll see a fully functional tempest. in 20 years the VR is going to be insane. remember, AI is only around the corner. once AI is functional these problems will be solved very fast.
The VR tech has been there for a couple of years now. It's just that it's absurdly expensive to integrate and most military infrastructure just can't support it
How can it be outdated if the technology doesn't exist yet. That is like saying that the F-35 technology is outdated. Yet very little is known about it and there's no evidence that it's outdated
Are russian military assets over rated or are they not using them right . To me russia blundered badly I though puttin made a good desion for russia now it looks badly for him .
France is definitely in a state of national decline after the end of etatist ideology. They can't make their own rifles - they let MAS go bankrupt. They import their renewable energy technology because their national academies no longer produce iterations on tech but try to "innovate" something uniquely French that then goes bust. They are in the process of shutting down their nuclear reactor program because most French schoolchildren are taught that nuclear power is contributing to climate change. They pioneered vaccines and built the Louis Pasteur Institute but can't even make a vaccine against COVID. They were among the first European countries to adopt national pensions but are now in the process of selling them off to hedge funds. The decline of social safety nets and investment in jobs has produced entire banlieues of people in desperate poverty. Whatever you think of France, it is no longer French in its universalistic, statist sense. By wedding its economy to that of the authoritarian, anti-democratic EU, it has sacrificed its Republican virtues. Deutchebank has destroyed France more thoroughly, and broken its national spirit more deeply, than any defeat in war, or any scandal.
13:23 It's possible they're referring to using the bleed air used to cool the turbines as a heat sink. It's the only thing in that region that will probably be cooler than the electronic boxes, unless they're planning on wasting even more power on a heat pump or something.
It did not appear to me that the engine is used as a heat sink, it appeared that a heat sink basket it put around the engine to cool the engine. The other end of the heat sink system with the cylinders appeared to be a mechanism for converting the heat into power of some from thereby consuming the heat.
Aircraft, like automobiles are becoming increasingly more expensive to design, build, and operate. The slavish devotion to stealth is also making them of decreasing utility as their stealthy payload shrinks. It remains to be seen if, say an F35 sortie would prevail over a reasonably equipped, numerically superior enemy willing to absorb the limited damage the F35 can inflict. Compound that with unmanned (stealthy or not) essentially throw away air to air drones and I don't know if there will be a gen 6.
problem is, that no airforce today can "absorb the limited damage" as you call it ... you cant just do URRAAA charge in the air because the F35s would just destroy most of your non-stealth attack force from relatively safe distance then just pull back to rearm under cover of second wave of non-stealth / ground based AAA only to do the same thing in few hours. Stealth is HUGE advantage in air to air combat making defeating radar guided ordnance frankly trivial, just making a viable lock on any stealth platform is difficult enough, now imagine what employing basic defensive maneuvers does to the missile that can hardly lock on to the target in the first place.
@@Asghaad The F35 can't lose the BVR fight because it can't carry an internal AIM9. It also has to turn and run on time if things don't go its way because it is slow. If it is facing a flight of SU27s with a dozen R77-whatevers on each aircraft, things had better go perfectly or the F35 with four missiles is in trouble. The F35 does appear to be doing a great job as an F117-type attack aircraft for Israel. If it can easily defeat anything, nearly effortlessly, as you believe, I think that would be great. But I doubt it.
@@notsoserious0944 dozens of missiles that cant ever lock onto the target might as well be a ballast weight ... purpose of stealth is to NOT to get into VVR... secondly the F35s will be shadowed and covered by F22s ... same advantages as F35, much higher performance and will absolutely roflstomp any 4th gen fighter (remember when you see F22 lose in training excercises they mount special equipment to nullify the stealth and are usually put in unfavorable position the jet will never be in real combat. Now imagine what will happen when British F35s start flinging Meteors instead of AMRAAMS xD
@@Asghaad You do know that the F35 will have to defend a missile heading its way? IOW, if a threat is coming your way, locked on or no, the pilot will go defensive. You also seem to think we have a lot more F22s than we actually have. You do know that our Air Force is actively buying more "legacy" airframes? Why?
@@notsoserious0944 except there wont be missile going its way because F35s will be firing at distances opposition cannot get viable targetting solution... if they fire blind all they will be doing is wasting the missiles because active radar missile being fired without viable lock against targets that you dont even know from which direction they are coming from (you do know that ONE F35 can guide other planes in the vicinity which can be aproaching the enemy from completely different direction right ? ...) has about ZERO chance of successfully acquiring a lock afterwards ... it would be like throwing darts at target 50 meters away BLINDFOLDED and hoping to score perfect bullseye ... as for F22s there are about 180-ish in service (to be precise 187 operational craft + 8 testbeds with 5 crashes meaning there are still at least 182 production Raptors in service not counting the test planes) with and Airforce is buying more "legacy" airframes because F22s are expensive to operate and unnecessary at the moment as the enemies US is facing kinda lack any proper airforces ... which is why they are investing in legacy airframes that are more than enough to deal with anything they are expected to face ... also there is that little thing of F22 having no equal in the air even more than 20 years after it was put into service... there isnt a nation n this planet that put sufficient enough number of comparable fighters into service to warrant any worry as currently those are barely out of prototype stage and not expected to be put into service in any relevant numbers for years to come as they are simply too expensive to produce and maintain.
Not out turning a vector thrust missile no matter how hard you pull. In any other situation pulling high-g/high-AOA will just make you loose speed and be a sitting duck.
All very cool. By the way, the science fiction writer Iain M Banks used the term "Effectors" to describe the super high tech electromagnetic weapons in his "Culture" series of books.
Could RR's claim of a "distortion-tolerant fan system" be related to the lack of either DSI or conventional diverter? Are they betting that their engine will be so good at dealing with flow distortion that they don't need either? Another possibility is that they're considering a "suck-in" system as planned for the F-23 (though not present on the YF-23 demonstrator).
As suspected, there will be money problems ... Janes reports: UK cuts GBP370 million from Tempest programme The UK government's Infrastructure and Projects Authority (IPA) has revealed in its annual report published on 15 July a GBP370 million (USD510 million) cut in the budget to build the Tempest Future Combat Air System. In its first public assessment of the programme to build a replacement for the UK Royal Air Force's (RAF's) Typhoon combat aircraft, the IPA gave the project an amber/red risk rating, saying there are “major risks or issues apparent in a number of key areas”. For the first time, the scale of UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) funding for Tempest was revealed to be GBP9.46 billion. Looking forward to a joining of the two (Tempest / FCAS), hopefully with a family of aircraft produced.
It is a very strange situation for the fighter plane world..while there are in project many sci-fi 6th gen planes like the Tempest or the new USAF fighter (no name or pictures availables) with hi tech solutions and maybe hi-hi too much hi costs..many Air Force are still developing old 4th gen into 4+, 4++, 4+++++...gen like Super Hornet, Eagle 2, Su-35, F-16V/F-21/F-X-XL (?) with reasonable costs.
AR makes sense, but not VR. The optical fidelity is very low compared to the eyeball and a failed display would cost the pilot his vision, unlike an AR lenses. Also, why would the plane need displays if it’s using VR?
The radors and lasers are comming from Leonardo Edinburgh. My friends work thier.. They hsve cool shit.. Like fire and forget. My uncles both worked in the old buildings feranties also my auntie. They are looking for workers if your local.. I don't think they will have any stuff others don't no about. Its like a mouth piece.. They actually use passenger planes comming into land at the airport and rosyth naval yard.. They even have the rador dome on the roof.. They can track lots of planes pass all the info to others decide what unmanned planes to use all from 100s if miles away.. Its down fall it can't go high enough... Why do you think the usa waited so long to shoot balloan down. They had to wait till the balloan came down onto a height they could reach.... So yea it will just be a platform to look at the field decide which missels to fire fire forget .. 1 plane will be able to control many. Its not new just like on the ground in thier soliders bubble units 12 men or 6 fully equiot with machines to carry all the weapons they need. Little flying drones way high way in front. Passing all the info back to the soliders lithle bubble so they can use the correct weapons to take out the field in front.... The planes will be all about this.. Tempest.. I would have went with the hurricain but smaller like the.177 is better now than the .22.. That's why the UK has little troops. They feel thier lots of bubble teams 12 x 12 men fully aquipt can take out 20.000.. As long as they can see what's in front they can direct the correct fire on the ground.... Its not the way. The other side will work it out fast and thier bubble will burst then what have they got...
The aesthetics of the nose and rear radome nearly made me throw up. The front looks like an OAP's sagging chin and the rear looks like someone sellotaped a component from the F-117 in between the engines. I really hope that they include a large enough payload bay so when they inevitably (given the UK, Italy and Sweeden's lack of dedicated bombers/attackers) want to use it for delivering large ground attack munitions internally while maintaining the stealth and aerodynamics of a clean aircraft.
While pilotless aircraft may not be a thing being contemplated by pilots and retired Air Force personnel afraid of becoming obsolete, the pilots cannot even control the unstable design airframes being produced, without computer aid. AI IS NOT ready to render true conclusions, but no person needs to be sitting in the aircraft. All the new displays and virtual controls are also a crutch for human physiology, and the aircraft design limitations revolve around remaining in accord with human physiology, so the plane is designed no more robust , than a human can withstand anyway. Data bus transfer rates do lag even in consumer camera optics, but confronted with a true surprise, pilots may be no more able to decide what to do than refer to a database of previous encounters. So far , no respectable rationale have I seen, which requires the bag of meat ,to be in fighter aircraft, and so they appear to be a drag on development. If one could jam all communication to and from an aircraft, then equally a pilot or program would not know where they were and what they were encountering, accurately enough to complete a mission.
As the $1.5-trillion F35 self destructs - here we go again! Pissing more money down the military rat hole. A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom. Martin Luther King, Jr.
To bad the Japanese and the United Kingdom have such differing endurance requirements. They would make a powerful team. But requirements differ and every nation want to build it’s own systems anyway.
The equasion is simple. The more the aircraft become complex the more expensive they will become which means fewer aircraft which means easier to take them out on the ground. Longrange missiles and cruise missiles have CEP of a few meters and perfect to carry out pre-emptive strikes. Anyone today that has anything bad to say about Israel pre-emptive during six day war.
Diversity-focused organizations are not going to produce a functional 6th generation fighter. Nevermind that I've yet to hear anyone clearly articulate what makes something 6th Gen.
You forgot that Japan has been developing it’s own, l agree the F35 is a monster that even some key requirements or standards have been dropped on this aircraft from what the Airforce requirements it originally had. Why the USA didn’t go in with Japan l cannot understand especially if they started with the F23 along with NASA has already done a lot of work even on thrust vectoring as Stealth alone is not good enough you must also have the speed to intercept alone with carry more than enough weapons to do the job.
tempest, all trends, no substance, just put everything a 10yr old boy thinks is cool together, without any meaningful effect in actual combat. its got great potentials tho, if you add massage chair, a full bar in the cockpit, a plantation room for growing weeds behind the cockpit, make engines zero emission, add two large wind turbines on the wingtip to generate electricity for the communities near ur airbase, and aircraft body fully recyclable, you can even call it a 7th gen fighter.
Surely a better Strategic investment would be loads of missiles and nuclear weapons not a vanity useless manned fighter we can only afford 3 off. Let's not make the same mistake as aircraft carriers we can't afford to project our weaknesses. North Korea has the right approach, don't mess with us or risk a very asymmetric response.
Augmented/virtual reality will definitely help a lot with integration of the ever growing complex information. I used to fly small aircrafts, so I wondered about analog instruments disappearing from the modern cockpits even in a backup role. They are basically gone, Russians kept some, but generally it's all digital electronics and LCD, OLED or whatever flat, buttons and knobs are replaced with touch screens. And they seem to get bigger with less redundancy. HUDs still relevant, but no longer mandatory, while VR/AR helmets are on raise. I personally think there are 2 main practical reasons aside of benefits in information processing: 1) increased reliability - modern displays and electronics became more reliable than analog/mechanical instruments and they handle high stresses, vibrations etc. better than sensitive mechanical devices, so if there is any backup, it's also electronic. 2) whole fly-by-wire, increasing role of the computers in flight - just imho, if the situation in the futuristic jet fighter would get so bad that a pilot relied on a set of analog/mechanical backups, which would otherwise be considered a generous instrument set in a small simple aircraft on VFR.. I'd eject immediately :D Btw I think they actually keep HOTAS in Tempest as the last stand of traditional physical controls, while the rest seems very minimalistic, indeed waiting for the next generation of pilots.
if you want us to watch to the end, please remove the robot voices, acting like “there is the Cuffs ??” You are such a good narrator, but the channel is increasing in noise to signal ratio, making it harder to watch. Perhaps - if you must - offer a subscriber version with no silliness. Meant as a constructive suggestion
As an American I'm glad to see the Europeans working on this. As you have posted there is a risk if everyone is using the same aircraft. It makes the adversary's role easier and worst if a weakness is discovered it becomes vulnerable.
Don’t forget Rolls Royce invented the concept of Super sonic air speed eg concord, lets not forget that the Japanese have now joined the Tempest program .
5th gen fighters are brand new, the majority of countries don't have 5th gen fighters yet, and the technology is classified. 6th gen fighters are 30 years away at least.
Oh just have the pilot not only have to control his plane but a number of other planes. Anyone heard of workload overload. Seems to me that if you want to do that you take a big plane with crew of people to work the remote systems. If a pilot can handle that workload, then it seems like probably just fire the pilot. You don't need him any way.
