The Terrible Disaster of the SS ARCTIC (1854) 

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So glad you made this comment. I've watched BSF for years.. no doubt your engagement here helped this channel find its way into my feed of suggested videos.

Well if it isn't another one of my favorite history/story channels.

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Sounds like my life story lol 😂

Have you heard "Ask a Mortician" channel telling the story that inspired Moby Dick? So much cannibalism

I like her channel. She has one about Why JFK’s Casket Stayed Closed. Very interesting details following the assassination.

But wait ...This really happened in 1959. I was there... I met the son who was sickly at about the age if 15 years. Sounds more impressive if circa 1959. less impressive if known that the ship was set aground on the ice. Trying to attract more viewers for RU-vid by changing the story eh?

@@General5USA whut…

Everyone would like to think that they'd do what Stewart did. But when all your shipmates decide to abandon their post, it's hard to believe that many, if anyone, would actually stay. Even if it was no use, at least he died a hero.

...and we're still talking about him today. Not sure I can say the same 170 years from now about a Taylor Swift show.

​@@robg8203with honour.

​@@carlsaganlives6086who's Taylor swift?

​@@carlsaganlives6086what's a Taylor and why is it swift?

@@spventures9395exactly. So had the men not been selfish and helped instead of hurt it would’ve made all the difference for those women and kids.

@@spventures9395 did we watch the same video?!!! How about not storming the lifeboats??? Not r*ping and literally k*lling women?!! How is any of that survival or actions brought on by fear? Get your head checked.

@@spventures9395 btw, since you didn’t watch the video I’ll add that they stormed the life boats before they were ready and wielded axes at those prepping the boats. Just cowardice and evil on part of those ‘men’. Look at the lady that stuck to her post until the end, the young boy.

​@@Boltybleu1978🛵 Rape sucks but it's still ok to write the word.

@@mikethebike2456 no, RU-vid blocks comments with certain words from being seen. Just tryna get my comment out there

Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi were on the ship.

And even worse that their competition decided to celebrate the huge loss of life with a F***ing parade! How much more of a scumbag move could they do?

I remember my grandparents took us on a cruise when I was 11 in 2001. We were on a princess ship. They conducted our lifeboat drill that first day and we were informed that the way the drills/actual situations are handled were inspired by the way some of the crew of the titanic conducted themselves and the loading of their lifeboats on the Titanic ❤️

@@msprettypinkpanther6142Sick.

Why lose faith at all? If there is good, there is evil. If there is despair, there is hope. The titanic and this are evidences of this

That is simultaneously reassuring and disheartening.

But notice how the moral values of society collapses when the societal structure collapses. If we don't stick to our most fundamental values and rules, everything will fall into a deathspiral of malevolence, despair and impulsiveness. Societal imbalance breeds chaos, and chaos awakens the evil sides in people. Societies have collapsed before you know, and the aftermath is always cataclysmic.

the problem is humans, humans, humans. they have always been the ROOT OF ALL EVIL. they will always be the root of all evil. young or old. male or female. rich or poor. black or white. gay or straight. THE PROBLEM IS HUMANS. Bright side: we COULD solve this overnight, but no one wants to! ("the only thing humans hate more than the status quo is CHANGE") EX: PEER PRESSURE is more powerful than HUMAN NATURE.

@@jonbongjovi1869 If humans are the root of all evil, then they are also the root of all good, because good can not exist without evil.

@@ollikoskiniemi6221 Very, very true. That dichotomy is quite striking with this sinking! Incredible acts of selflessness occurring right beside some of the most selfish and sadistic. We're a very strange species

I would never step a foot on a dock again, let alone a ship.

I'd be too busy hunting down my old "crew" for malicious retribution. This was a villain origin story like no other

@@l0rdapophisThat actually sounds exactly like Pyke from League of Legends. His whole shtick is that he has a list of “corrupt” sea captains and crewmates

​@@l0rdapophisthey prob all already died save a few

“Grandpa, what was it like at sea when you were a young seafarer?” “Oh little one, those were hard days. My mates and I drank ourselves silly as our vessel sank, but we did manage to rape a few women while still floating. Then I hacked the chief steward to death with an axe before throwing a mother and child into the cold abyss so I could confiscate a life jacket and take over a lifeboat. We were rescued by our competitors but me and my companions chose to go to Canada instead and that’s my legacy to you dear child.”

🛵 Have to agree. Truly a scary story for grown ups.

Truly horrible, much worse than I imagined.

Watch the movies Hostel 1 and 2

I know, must of been terrifying for them ☹️

It must certainly have been the most gruesome sight, but I still find the violence and selfishness the men onboard inflicted on their fellow humans to be more terrifying.

@@blondbraid7986seriously, women and children watching grown men trying to rape them.

too bad the arctic was still in fullspeed ahead mode

@@drdrew4457😂

I agree 100%! There wasn't too much he could've done, A Captain without a crew can't do much and a crew without a Captain are leaderless, With the majority of his crew having turned on him and stolen the boats there wasn't too much he could've done, Land was too far away. It's terrible that for the most part this tragedy has been forgotten.

The captain is ultimately resposible for the ship, receiving the accolades and blame alike. Training, morale, and crew disciple all ultimately fall on the captain's shoulders. He is to blame, although he alone is not.

@@TaterRaider He isn't to blame though, Some Men will just always be selfish and put themselves first and that's what they did, They abandoned their Captain and the passengers to flee themselves instead of trying to maintain order and get the boats launched, I will agree with you that the Captain usually is responsible for the ship if disaster strikes but not this time, The crew who cowardly stole the boats are 100% to blame for the loss of life.

@@FrederickTheAnon14W Full speed ahead in a fog. Everyone answers to the captain. The captain answers to God. Also recommend checking into maritime disasters and simple things like running aground, particularly naval history. The captain can be asleep in his/her stateroom and still be court martialed. Because the captain is responsible for the ship - no exceptions. USS Missouri comes to mind.

@@TaterRaider The ship was at full speed ahead in the fog because they were FORCED to, The whole entire Collins Line was forced to maintain that full-speed or lose their subsidiaries from influential people who were looking to see the Collins Line fail, And even after this disaster they were still forced to maintain that full-speed rule until the Collins Line went out of business 4 years later in 1858, If you watched the video you would know this.

Titanic took notes about that watertight bulkheads from the vesta. didn't always work so well, as we now know.

@@villagemagician1320 The Titanic was, and even still would be by today's standards, a very tough ship. The trouble was that her damage was immense, a 300 foot long gash is doom for near every ship. It is a testament to the Titanic's seaworthiness that she stayed afloat after that for over two hours.

@@villagemagician1320 Titanic also took note of the cowardice of Men and made sure to keep order to make sure the boat's weren't swamped by Men, However I have to say Lightoller took it a BIT too far, Not even allowing Men into the boats when there were no Women or children present to be loaded aboard, And as a result quite a few were just simply loaded half or more than half empty.

@@FrederickTheAnon14W I am somewhat reluctant to agree with this. To my knowledge, only one or two boats (the first ones Lightoller loaded) were lowered with too few passengers. At this point many had great doubts about the seriousness of the situation. It looked to many that to be lowered into that little boat was infinitely more dangerous than the solid Titanic. So there was few people, including men, who were willing to get into the boat - at first. Soon thereafter it became clear that the ship was going to sink and then there wasn't the reluctance of many people (women, children, anybody) of getting in. These boats were filled to the brim, with some having a mere 2 inches of space between the side of the lifeboat and the ocean. There was another officer, Lowe I think his name was, who delayed the launch of some boats for an unknown reason despite Captain Smith saying explicitly to Lightoller to "put the women and children in the boats and lower away". This message was conveyed to Lowe but still he delayed. Who knows why. Never, that I know of, did Lightoller lower away half-full boats just because there were no women or children in the immediate area. Also, it should be noted that the time pressure was VERY real. And in fact not every lifeboat was able to be launched. They ran out of time. Lightoller was swept into the ocean whilst him and a few other men were readying one last lifeboat. In the end, the giant smokestack broke loose and that last lifeboat was missed just barely - with the giant wave flipping it upside down. This upside down lifeboat was Lightollers salvation, along with maybe a dozen others. Initially 18 were standing on it but 6 died before being rescued. There was no room on that slippery wet underside of the lifeboat and some fell into the water and never got back on.

@@dabbinghitlersmemes1762 Except it wasn't a 300 foot gash, but a series of badly-placed punctures and deformations along the forward hull.

The captain's son was already suffering from an illness before the ship sank, and likely wouldn't have survived before rescue arrived anyway.

@@tidan4575still... that paddlebox killed him before he even had a chance. It's horrific.

Why?

@@MA-yu2ss Because many would flee for their lives. Many would want to hijack a lifeboat, or even just *try* to survive. These people did not. They stayed with the ship, doing their best to save as many lives as possible. Putting the lives of random people you don’t even know before yours, even if you *know* you will die, is the true definition of a hero.

The vesta captain is an idiot

Kindly DON'T THINK THAT THERE COULD HAVE been a better deal of damage caused

I bet they were "god fearing" people?

Anna Downer.

Never mind hero's of history the amount of history lost to us is a damn shame we think we have a good grasp but judging by how long we've been on this earth and nearly going extinct even god knows what's been lost but yeap there are a shit ton of great people that we will never know off or even the events.

RIGHT!! Talk about "GIRL POWER" This story alone let's ALL know females tend to be stronger than males. The men on that ship were sorry punk a$$ men anyway.

More of a man than the cowardly crew.

And the kid who kept firing the canon as well. Two real heroes amongst all the cowards.

What about the men

​@@hidekiyukawa2874🛵 They let most drown in the back of the ship. Guess that was a mistake for when they felt like raping them later.

​@@hidekiyukawa2874the original comment is probably not weighting the lives of women and children over those of men, but just stating that its tragic that even though the women and children were 'saved' first, none survived

More cowards than real men on that ship

@@hidekiyukawa2874 85 of them survived. Were you not watching?

Absolutely!! I hear the AI voice, I immediately move on to another video.

​@BezmenovDisciple Me too. The ai generated voice is horrible. I just move on to the next video.

@@claytonbouldin9381when I hear an AI voice I press the three dots and press "don't recommend this channel to me again" to make sure I don't even accidentally click it.

Especially since his salvation, the paddle box, straight-up annihilated his son.

I know! The poor guy tried so hard and it seemed like nearly everyone else was sabotaging his efforts....

Not to mention the people that stole a lifeboat and prioritised cigars and legroom over human lives. They deserved way worse survivors guilt though

I don’t think I could live with it.

At least we can remember him and spread word of his heroism.

Once again, the world will know through the Internet.

From my experience looking into this time--in journalism--I feel that this quote is entirely fictitious, as it seems way too good to be true. Simple yellow journalism.

I mustof missed the part saying he was 12,...Wow. Just,...Wow.

@@CPorter Your feelings are a piss poor reason to disparage what could well be true. The words were spoken to the Captain who survived to tell the story. It would profit him nothing to lie about it. Off with you and your dark soul, vermin.

Why did he have to die while the dicks like Baalham and the Cheif Engineer had to survive. Same with the steward manning the pumps too.

Spoiler

...and I thought the drunken rapist crew was going to be the worst part of the story.

⁠@@JackWilkosWhat else do you expect to find in the comments?

Like a predecessor to the indianopolis massacre

Democrats. Don't trust lefty media!

I must fully agree with you.

well, in fog and far away from any land or help he should of choose safety first and slow the ship down, easily could of have his officer log it as engine paddle wheel problem.

Absolutely agreed.

@@djsatane that’s easy to suggest, but he was obviously a man of integrity who wouldn’t put lies in the ship’s log. If I had to guess, you had an ancestor amongst the cowardly crew members of the Arctic.

Yea that sounds good on a grave stone and all, but you don't know a damn thing about that woman. For all you know she got off on killing babies.

I know! That was the saddest part!

i believe some crew members stayed it wasnt only those 2

Indeed, that's why I think that people should NEVER count on male chivalry in any dire situation, because while there were good men on board, they were outnumbered by the bad ones by far, and had most of their valiant efforts destroyed by them. Meanwhile, I don't see a single mention of any of the women attacking people, only going on lifeboats they were let on rather than highjacking them, and it seems nearly all of the women either worked hard keeping the ship safe like the woman on the pump, tried saving their children, or passively prayed without hurting anyone.

@@blondbraid7986it’s typical of shipwreck disasters sadly, the whole women and children first bullshit is a complete and utter myth. the only reason it happened a couple times was bc the captain and crew would literally enforce it sometimes at gunpoint… just goes to show how evil and selfish most men are, they would drag even their own wives and children out of lifeboats to take their place. disgusting. “male chivalry” is made up tbh

The media was probably worse back then-the ideal of journalistic integrity didn’t even exist yet-and because newspapers were the only method of mass information there was practically no chance of effective of countering an already established narrative that we have with social media and the Internet.

And the thing that saved his life took the life of his son. He really didn't deserve the slander he later got. I wouldn't have ever stepped foot on a ship again if I had been him.

I believe the captain of the Empress of Ireland survived going down with his ship. He was thrown off her into the water when she capsized, where he got on a lifeboat and spent the rest of the night saving people in the water.

The captain of the Lusitania also survived, he was swept of the bridge wing.

What reasonable decisions??? The reasonable decision would have been to tell the politicians to STFU on HIS ship and that they would be travelling at a slower speed while sight was obstructed by fog.

​@@thrillereighties8241 actually that wasn't his decision to make... This is the downside of corporate shipping. It would be career ending for him. However, the thing that would have been wise and not career ending was probably to turn to starboard at collision course. If he followed protocol, then the momentum might have been reduced just enough that the damage was manageable

It's because even with the whole ocean, only some parts are navigable, known, or have currents that will work in the favor of the boat

@@na3rial Exactly. It's like saying "How did you hit each other, you have the entire United States?" when two cars hit each other on I90. Really ignorant comment.

Its the same in the air.

Same route it can happen easily

Americans make terrible drivers, they never look where their going and vote for the worst politicians

You whine about "bigots" after September 11...which religion did the attackers believe in? They certainly weren't Mormons or Catholics or Buddhists.

Tragedy doesn’t cause evil or goodness, it just broadens the traits that are already there. Despite what people may think, the world is not more evil now. These days we just get to see more of it. Stories like this are living proof that evil and good have been at war since mankind took their first steps.

What do you mean bigots? You weren't there in NY in 2001 you have no idea what occurred. Only what the media told you. There are always a few good people but there are so many cowards and traitors among us.

The fact that every woman and child died as a result of their actions is just horrific. How these men could live with themselves afterwards is beyond me. What cowards they were.

​@@YTsux100pct._of-the-time.easy to say

​@@m3gAnac0ndait Easy to say. Especially children.. id rather die than live knowing i participated in killing children

​@@m3gAnac0ndait's true , what u on about

@@m3gAnac0nda Dude, a man that's raised right has certain undeniable responsibilities. Primary among those is PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY. A lot of the passengers had their wives and kids on that boat. The crew didn't. You can bet that pretty much everyone that sided with the captain was a passenger, but still - the kid who stayed firing the gun and the woman on the hand pump were braver than... Well, YOU, apparently. When shit goes wildly awry, that's when men need to stand up and do what we were literally fucking built to do - take charge of the situation, fight and die if we have to getting the goddamned women and children to safety. I've been in bad situations before - a car crash where people were killed, dragged into fights by friends, and I grew up and still live in the Bronx and I'm white, so you know I came up throwing hands. I also dealt cocaine for 6 years for a crew in Washington Heights, so I've had guns pointed at me (shotguns are the worst) and been shot at, as well. My best friend was shot in the leg by an assault rifle one night in Van Cortland Park when a van rolled by and the side panel door slid open and he was just a little slow in diving. The shit FLIPPED HIM. For real. But i was the one who kept pressure on the wound until the ambulance came, fucking blood everywhere. I'm not saying I would be superman when the ship was sinking, dude. But i would do what's right, at least. I don't want my dad looking down at me from heaven and being ashamed of me.

It’s fine, he got the justice he deserved. We are the people of the future to him, and we see the truth, and his name lives on as a hero. And for those who ran away? They will forever be forgotten as they deserve.

You people love to put people in heaven and you don't know if he was in GOD IN ORDER TO GO TO HEAVES,POOR CAPTAIN,POOR JESUS NAILED ON THE CROSS

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@@sabrinarosario6499 😂😂😂😂

@@reckontonottobemoved No, this man certainly deserves to be in heaven for his his incredibly heroic and selfless actions that most certainly do not go unnoticed by God.

The fact every woman and child died is horrifying; that these men gave defense of "well the captain was incompetent and an asshole" and thought that absolved them of leaving kids to die and pushing away survivors as they left with room to spare in the only life boats is chilling.

Then the tragedy of the SS Atlantic evened things out killing all woman and children aboard and leaving only the men.

@@badcornflakes6374 seriously?? Holy hell…

Good. They deserved shame. They still deserve it. I hope they spend every night in Hell drowning over and over.

No, it didn't. "The Birkenhead Drill" was coined by Kipling in a poem about the incident and it refers to the soldiers on board forming into ranks in deck and remaining there while the women and children were placed into the lifeboats. That is what they call a drill in military terms. The officers wanted to prevent a panic, and the men stayed under discipline until the boats were away, and then they figured there was no escape anyway, so they just stayed in their ranks and waited while the ship sunk under them. I have never heard the general practice of women and children first called "The Birkenhead Drill", that misses the entire point of them meeting their deaths bravely standing in ranks instead of panicking. And I am pretty sure the practice predates that anyway, so no, they don't call it that, they didn't do it first, and that wasn't what they did.

Never underestimate humanity. HMS Bounty much?

And even more rotten passengers, after that third ‘camp’ decided that raping, pillaging, and getting drunk would be the best way to spend the end of their lives.

Really? Poor Captain Luce who sold out his own crew and everyone else when he abandoned sound judgement and chose to listen to the politicians to travel at speed in that weather?? Are you all blind? Yes, he most likely would have lost his job for ignoring them but the disaster would have been avoided and all those lives would have been spared. He caved under pressure and relinquished his rank as Captain of the ship by listening to the politicians.

​@@LateNightCable Everyone likes to think they're honorable until they're put in these situations, and nobody is exempt from that fact. Great lesson to learn from terrible actions.

@@LateNightCableI thought when they said “stole alcohol” that it was going to be just some people deciding to get drunk and go out that way and I figured that wasn’t bad, but nope. It got worse.

Agreed

The Estonia disaster/cover up in the Baltic in 1994 is unbelievable. I'd say the SS Atlantic/Estonia/Wilhem Gustev in 1945 are the worst. I think nearly 15 thousand were murdered on the Wilhelm fleeing the Soviets.

Damn right Poor children God protect us men from cowardice

I could easilyyyy they just crotch goblins

Fortunately, Fourth Officer Dorian survived, though only barely. When the mob started to rush his lifeboat, Dorian was forced to cut his boat loose to prevent it from becoming overloaded, while the raft scraped against the _Arctic's_ hull, breaking off part of it and spilling its occupants into the Atlantic. I kind of feel bad for Dorian. He definitely would have stayed alongside the ship longer had there been better discipline among the crew, and the raft probably would have been properly completed and thus able to save more lives. The only survivor on the raft was a crewman named Peter McCabe, a waiter on his first transatlantic voyage. From what I can tell, he didn’t force his way onto the raft: He had initially sought refuge on a door, but abandoned it in favor of the raft. He counted 76 people either on the raft or clinging to its side in the water, four of whom were women. He later recalled that he thought himself within ten minutes of death when he was rescued by the _Huron._

*Raises glass of lemonade* I’m not old enough to drink yet so this will have to do

@@lunaequinox7333 Neither am I, and I prefer lemonade to alcohol. (It was for my first communion and the taste turned me away from drinking)

@@Daniel_Huffman you're not missing much lol. I am of drinking age, but have found that alcohol is grossly over rated. 😁. Lemonade is far superior!

Not to mention the woman who was bleeding out through her hands but continued using them to keep the pumps running.

That's because Civility is an illusion. We force the illusion to be prevalent but when the chaos of Nature overtakes that illusion, all we are are animals again.

Oh they are still like that...believe me.

The poor will eat the rich when given the opportunity.

@Stigmatogaster and will be correct to do so. The fact that 90% of the capital is in 1% of population's hands is really not ok and is a problem.

@@eirschu8973 So the people on the ship did nothing wrong?

🛵 Apparently i am.

​@@mikethebike2456they are so interesting 😊

@@ritanyaga8581 🛵 I knew i was into Titanic but apparently all ship disasters are so compelling to learn about. This one might be the worst. I recommend another disaster that fascinates me. It's called the Franklin Expedition. The first season of THE TERROR got me into it.📺 130 men lost in the Arctic after their ship is seized by ice. Not a quick death like ten minutes in the ocean.

I am, especially with the Titanic, Carpathia, Britannic, Olympic etc.

Yes after I watched the Titanic for the first time last week. I’ve been searching all yt for sunken ships videos

Do you have any stories to tell? Maybe you should consider it? Js

Yes. I had near experiences with sharks

I hope most ship crews aren't as freaking scary as the Arctic's.

@@SCharlesDennicon scary idk but they were assholes haha

if i may ask, how did you get to be a sea captain? were you in the navy or a similar field that helped you transition in? nowadays, is it something that requires a degree or is it more reliant on experience?

@ Steven Spielberg

​@@Annie.747Spielberg raped a 12 year old who died from her injuries. Heather O'Rourke on the set of Poltergeist

🛵 Another horror movie.

Agreed

We are only allowed to watch some politically correct garbage and cross breeding propaganda. Good movies hardly make it in the theaters.

Love this. Uncommonly wise words.

Hell the past use to be a lot more violent.

Yuppp, all these people acting like the lack of religion is what causes evil, when in reality the most religious times of history were the darkest.

Funny, he abandoned them when he chose to listen to the politicians.

I damn the drunken cowards that attempted to rape them.

No women. Only men. Women were considered bad luck at sea back then

@@peter_d Then why were ships given female names?

​@@peter_dYou have to be completely brain dead if you seriously believe that women never traveled as passengers on ships back then.

And then the thing that killed him was what he himself clung to to survive.

Me too. We're so fragile as human being, to protect our children of some bigger things...

you know i don't want to be that guy but you risk their lives every time you let them enter any vehicle. just a drive to school is potentially deadly. but just like back then people choose to either accept the risks or don't even think about the risks and just continue to risk their lives for the small benefit of education or travel. the sad thing is if any kids actually knew the horrors of a car crash they would probably fight with their parents to stay home. but we don't let them make that decision because we choose to risk their lives for what we believe is important and not them.

@@jimbobbyrnes but the problem is, it shouldn't even be a risk at all. Over here in Europe, this risk nearly doesn't exist.

@@johnyoutuber9781 Dying at sea on a ship the size of the SS Arctic is a risk that nearly does not exist either. Especially since we know that its dangerous and so naturally humans avoid the big scary sea and are deeply afraid of it.

NOTHING "needs a movie". Hollywood is run by the worst liars and deviants on Earth. You would do well to steer entirely clear of ALL the poisons they produce.

I agree. Would be grim Watching.

Grim and very necessary. Might have to wait until “1899” loses its relevance.

As a film it would lack the noble heroism of the Titanic. As far as I know the British seamen of the Titanic behaved well.

@@PatMcDonald41 no shit😐

This is what "work smarter" does. Usually it involves cutting corners and seeking goals or profit in an easiest and fastest way.

@@ligametis N...No. Work Smarter, Not Harder is about finding clever ways to reduce the labor needed while getting the exact same result. Cutting corners is different and bad. The political mandate seemed to be at least on its surface insistent on making sure the mail was delivered quickly, but the sheer disregard for safety and how rigidly it was enforced makes me think it was intended to kill the Collins line from the start. Someone in power wanted this line to die.

Politicians most of the time are uneducated and evil.

Gee...just think .....this had a billion to one chance of happining..!

Not much has changed. Insist everyone get the experimental jab no matter how much evidence there was that it was unsafe. I'm sure I could find many other examples of unrealistic politically and selfishly motivated policies.

The only "wrong" choice the Titanic's crew made was launching half full lifeboats. However, this was only done because they thought the ship would sink slow enough to ferry all of the passengers onto the Californian.

People forget that things like this were a contributing factor to the events that played out there. Women and children first was certainly not the norm and they were usually the bulk of the casualties. The Titanic and her people were products of their era.

@@harrisonkarn2078 they also made the mistake of thinking the Californian was moving towards them to help it wasn't. Also a lot of the lifeboats launched half full not because of crew but because the passengers themselves were being stubborn, preferring to wait for rescue aboard the big sturdy ship with lights as opposed to the tiny deathtrap lifeboats in the dark.

@@harrisonkarn2078 No, not at all. Lightoller the coward kept launching lifeboats half empty even when it was clear that the ship was going to sink in a short time and no one would pick them up for many hours at least. And the cowards made no attempts to row back to rescue the men in the water, except a couple of them. Shame on them all.

@@vittoriomandelli1309 right they should've totally rowed their tiny boats into a crowd of roughly 1200 panicking people in the water so that those people can swarm the boats and sink them too and then everyone dies. Solid plan dude.

Lifeboats were meant to transport survivor to a rescue ship and return for more people, if there was no rescue ship nearby they figured you are going to die either way an better quickly drown or freeze rather than starve to death in the middle of the ocean

Not entirely true, since lifeboats were thought of less as something to keep people alive after a ship goes down than to transport people to another ship, then return for more. In hindsight, it doesn't seem right at all ... but that's hindsight.

To say the list. Unbelievable. 🙏🏻💔

And that woman that remained doing her job with bloody hands while the boat was sinking.

Shouldn't need a statue just to stay, goodby. Really, just want anyone who approves of his lifestyle is forward. That's the way of the world?

Maybe the other men were really trans women?

I would kill everyone else on the ship if it meant I had a 10% extra survival chance.

As a Brit native living in Sydney I to salute that same young gentleman. Honour and respect from Australia.

There is no justice in this world.

Your absolutely right. That is why we can never trust politicians. In every time period they are evil liars covering up massive disasters!

That’s why I’m watching Andrea Doris’s sinking after this… so shameful

Yeah seriously. 'Ship's going down, time to rape!' what the actual f??

I agree. The antithesis to Titanic. Instead of love, romance and “beauty” it would be more of evil, chaos, and darkness. Quite a turn sadly. I’m appalled by the lack of humanity on the Arctic. I can’t imagine being there, I would have been enraged at the debauchery.

i am sorry for your (late) loss.

Same happened to my great great uncle Johnny Henry Ketchupson 😔

David Mustard? Related to Joey Mayonnaise??

@@pauldinardo912 😂

@@pauldinardo912 by chance, are they related to Billy Balsamic Dressing ?

Depression is bad enough with truth and some one knows it is why. what eventually do you think people would continue living with this type of bullshit just to feed the so called comfort of ones home not realizing enough how depression creeps in to a human. unless they are freekishly evil and like this sort of thing for entertainment. Though its possible we all are guilty some times of Possible entertaining propaganda.

I think because it's too depressing. There's no silver lining.

Not sure where these other 2 are coming from, I guess they're unaware of the many movies that were inspired by the tragedy of real people & Hollywood doesn't give a damn about anybody's depression. I think maybe those powerful people have powerful descendants & a movie would cause curious individuals to start turning over stones. I don't know, I'm sure there's lots of things being kept from us.

@@curiouser-and-curiouser What good is it going to do your worrie about what they have been keeping from us well be for for we were even born? besides this is not ment for Searchers looking in areas where they were told it was put in the bottom tittle sections of all that this is Simply for Entertainment purposes only? like a lot of Britannica Based . but Entertainment means not necessarily true. Like the Global warming only half believe its true but waiting restless with more evidence. Theory or Conspiracy theory turned out later True.

@@larrybradley3921 Yes but some don't see that but rather make thier own decisions on how professionals over 100 years should operate the Studios.

Millions of Irish were made to go on the coffin ships from 1846 up to 1954. They died on the way. Thanks to the criminals running Ireland and the greedy merchant class. That can't be named on RU-vid.

1854*

Captain Loose.

May have not made perfect decisions but he at least made his best effort with a clean heart

@@eswing2153 what is the point of commenting "captain loose" under people's comments? Is it supposed to be some sort of insult?

He acted valiantly in the end, but it was all his fault. If he had adhered to the standards of passing on the right, this could have all been avoided. Probably. Either way though, he might have been a fool, but an honorable one.

@@Nerobyrne it was the bridge officer who chose tye wrong turn, capatain luce was below decks at the time.

This was similar to my thoughts after too. Titanic is remembered largely cause of man's hubris in the face of nature and the classism of the time, but there's a ton of little stories that convey people doing good in the face of disaster. If there was a movie about this one I'd be left feeling so bitter about humanity.

It is incredible to me, to think that the band just kept playing "Nearer My God to Thee" as the Titanic was sinking! There weren't enough lifeboats and they probably knew that. Still, that they didn't panic and kept playing is so sad, yet it shows how very brave some of them were (and were not also as some of the crew were the first ones in the lifeboats!) They had over two hours (2 hrs, 40 mins), and some lifeboats weren't even full) I guess they really believed that the Titanic was unsinkable. A terrible tragedy for all.

They weren't properly trained like they should have been on the maiden voyage, but they were honorable and very selfless for their time. The main reasons they didn't pick up the people in the water was the belief that the lifeboats would be sucked down with the ship, or that they would be swamped and overturned by the giant crowds of desperate freezing passengers.

I don't agree. Whenever there's a sinking ship with not enough life boats, self preservation will always win. The Titanic was no different.

@@Matthew-qc1xz So wrong! Many people died in the very cold water. others drowned, but the many could NOT withstand the very cold water temps until rescue arrived and died hanging onto wreckage and slipped away into the water.! "Self-preservation will NOT win when the elements and other intolerable situations occur and make survival nearly impossible. Do you really think that people who have died inevitably in a aircraft crash didn't have plenty of self-preservation intent? Didn't matter. Some people in deadly air crashes had to be identified by the DNA in the pulp of a tooth or bone because there was NO intact body part where they could be identified, such as fingerprints, etc. because at 600 mph crashing into the ground from perhaps 31,000' altitude, there is little left of the aircraft or the people to even identify. Only due to modern technological advances can we use DNA for identity now!

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Holger Danske Holger Danske 1 second ago The Clown doing the story, has no idea, about Port & Starboard ! So the helmsman was ordered to turn RIGHT.......which meant LEFT.........??????? The narrator, does not know what the heck he is talking about !

@@holgerdanske8935 Eating animaIs is COVlD and Monkeypox.. 😒🦠🥓🍳🍔🍣🍗🥩🌭🍤🍕🍖. You’re not supposed to eat animaIs and their secretions. No fibre if you eat animIls and cheese and milk etc !!!! We’ve got long long guts. Flat teeth 🦷. Little flat teeth 😬. Moving left and right |-_| . We are herbivores. We act like ‘Omnivores’, and get blocked arteries eating animals fat deposits clog the arteries. Cancer high blood pressure diabetes strokes. 51% death rate !!! That is extremely high for a 5 minute burger etc !!!! Vegans have 4% cancer and that’s it. Peer review science !!!! GoriIlas are herbivores. They never ever eat animals. And they are huge ✅❤️💪🦍. 98.6% the same as us !!! 1% cancer in the wild !!!! COVlD-19, Plant based diet, they had a 73% lower risk, then meat eaters. Peer reviewed science. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-e9DP3AaTC48.html ...

Yeah apart from the rapists and vile passengers who I hope are in hell.

US Politicians staying "clean" when they were responsible for bad policy? This is par for the course.

wow .. im reading this comment today in 2022, 2 days after the uvalde tragedy.. seeing the disgusting similarities, my god this system is so beyond repair

Probably that was not caused by the passengers being so noble as opposed to the crew. First - they were not seamen, so abandoning ship on their own wouldn't had save them - and secondly - all those women and children were their families - so obviously saving them was more important to those men, than to the crew.

Perhaps it was an Italian crew?

Yup, sounds like the republican party. I swear we'd be so screwed if the democrats didn't keep them honest.

A true man.

And the lady who stayed at the pump...

A true woman.

It’s disgusting to see only a handful of loyal Crewmen, including the fucking Captain😤 They deserved better, and the cowards deserve nothing but contempt

Ever heard of the S Korean ferry Sewol?

@@silverXnoise I have, what about it?

@@LathropLdST ?? Do you really need someone to connect the dots for you?

@@LathropLdST I thought it was a cute name for a ferry boat and just wanted to tell everyone about it. No relevance to shameful actions in relation to maritime disasters whatsoever, my apologies for muddying the discussion with such trite distractions.

Courage the cowardly dog reference!!!!!!!!

Also the fact that the very thing that obliterated his son was the only reason he survived.

@@dracorex426 talk about survivors guilt

He had another wife and son beforehand, who both died. When his second son died in the sinking, his second wife died shortly after. Luce spent the rest of his life as a Steamship Inspector, tormented by the loss of the Arctic. And to think this was a man who was a Captain by his early 20s, a prodigy! What a sad end to his life and to a successful and decorated career

Something he would later use to survive

@@fredherbert7920 Why are you doing thish shir?

To be honest, I do not believe that quoted directive because it makes no sense at all. If that is true then that silliness should have been simply ignored.

@@billstill1794 Yeah like how the fuck would they know if the ship was going at full speed at all times? That's so fucking stupid.

Sadly though, it does seem realistic. Politicians have plenty of form for this sort of thing. Even today we often see cases where politicians will criticise the actions of others despite playing a role in the issue themselves. Just look at COVID. So many governments and politicians who made decisions that effected the course of the pandemic will blame everyone (the experts, the public, health services etc) but not take any responsibility themselves.

"I SWEAR we always steamed full-speed ahead! Honest!" Better to be a fired liar than an honest corpse.

@@billstill1794 It's true. It was believed that the faster you got through the dangerous iceberg waters of the North Atlantic, the safer you would be. Sadly this belief was held through to the time of the Titanic. Really dumb 'logic'.

Actually the gangsters we're raping and pillaging,while the warriors fought for life!! But I see your point!

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@@TonyBustaroni just another of the massive list of words used to describe something completely different than their true definition. Lately we've added words like man and woman to that list. Just like sick is awesome, bad is good, wicked is impressive, etc.

@@TonyBustaroni wow it’s almost like human language continually evolves and these magical things called colloquialisms exist!

@@TonyBustaroni Say good nite

Yes most historians say this is why Titanic is so well know but unfortunately this kind of selfishness is much more common in ship sinkings

In December 1987, more than 4,300 people died in the world's worst peacetime maritime disaster after the ferry Dona Paz sank after colliding with a fuel tanker.

@@brandonsavitski Thanks Wikipedia. 🙂

Why does the Titanic movie portray the crew as villains?

@@ChefPoirotProductions1 Titanic’s crew “Villains”? First I’ve heard of that take in the film. Mostly it’s the rich dude and his jockey

Because they were trying to survive

​@@PointNemo9 rape woman is a way to survive?

Fear can bring out the best and the worst in people add in the mob mentality and then you will see the worst in humanity

You can't understand because your not a sinking ship and about to drown. Real life isn't a movie. Survival is the only thing that matters.

Because there weren't enough boats and everyone knew it.

May Allah bless him and forgive him his sins. Allah the lord of all worlds forgives those who died at sea La hawla walw quwwata illah billaah

how would you know this... thats like saying you had a cousin with Shackleton

​@@dylanmooney3221 No, that was my great great great uncle, silly! How could you mix that up?!

@Dylan Mooney? Have you ever done genealogy? The 1800s are no problem to research at all, unless the specific archives you’re searching for have burned up at some point or anything like that. Most of the Western world, often through their different churches, had begun keeping meticulous track of births, marriages, deaths at this point in time.

Wow, lots of “greats” in front of that! Cudos to you, for keeping that good track of your family history.

I was gonna say that the most dangerous thing about this were the people.

@@villagemagician1320 Well, you shouldn't have been "Just sayin" what you just said. "Meh, maybe a lady too," implying that a woman may have had an orgasm during rape is inexcusable. I swear, anything preceding "Just sayin" online and IRL is garbage.

@@briancrawford8751 I think they meant that a woman might also have had some consensual sex, or maybe that a woman might have also raped some hot young guy ... not that the women enjoyed being raped... just sayin (:P).

The rape doesn’t surprise me

@@briancrawford8751 I think what the person meant was that perhaps couples or rowdy/drunken women on board maybe had that same attitude of “we’re going to die anyway so go out with a bang” ..either that or the person who commented didn’t think their comment through before posting.

the dread of sailing full steam in the mist... the french fishermen shredded by the paddles... the sailors and passengers who went mad... the fighting... and finally the moment the captain finally spots his son only to have him killed in front of his eyes so suddenly and forcefully. ... I would watch that movie and say "Man what the... How can they make such a tragedy into such a messed up movie!!! Geez... that was..." and then I'd research it and... well ... humanity is often worse than the horrors a movie can come up with.

Agreed - it's so heinous that telling the truth would probably be unbelievable to audiences in the theater, and the studio would want to change things after their test screenings.

I agree with not changing anything, because I feel that doing so is, for all intents and purposes, the same as pretending that these horrific details didn’t happen. I think that your proposed film should have an ensemble cast, though with Captain Luce as the primary POV character for the audience, who, like Luce, is constantly bewildered over the crew following his orders less and less. I also think that it should emphasize the heroic actions of those who did remain loyal, as a way of showing that disaster doesn’t just bring out the worst in humans. According to the Wikipedia article on the _Arctic_ Disaster, Captain Luce was largely viewed as a hero and was met with cheers when he arrived in New York via train. He also was largely found blameless, as "he had not sought to save himself, had gone down with his ship, and had survived largely by chance." I think that in a hypothetical scene of Luce's arrival, the mood would be described as "empty." This film would be described as a psychological horror, and would definitely be Rated R. And it shows that the _Titanic's_ passengers and crew had it comparatively better.

Hell yes

I would love it to be an animated film so you don't have to worry too much about budget or bad actors or CGI not looking realistic, but because of Disney America is probably still not gonna try make animated films that AREN'T just for families. I look at some of the best short stories from "Love, Death & Robots" with their amazing animation styles and gorgeous camerawork/action, and I long for an entire 90 minute or two hour long film like that.

He did say it had bulkheads :)

Same!! Hit the floor, I thought they said it was a goner, but also thought it was weird they didn't mention much else about it...tried to pull a fast one...😂

Blew my mind, nearly as much as the Cunard gobshites having a parade celebrating their own lifeboats safety days after the tragedy came to light.

Agreed! I was surprised and glad about that. This whole event was so negative and even then Captain Luce was mistakenly made out to be a villain. Was the ship cursed or what! Seems like when things go wrong in life even more things go wrong to make it worse.

When he said it had bulkheads and the Arctic didn't I was expecting them to evacuate the Vesta's crew onto the Arctic and then have the Vesta survive.

all we can hope for, is that our descendants will look upon our actions with pride, and not shame.

Kudos to your ancestor. He fell with the ship with his honor intact. If only most of them were like that

Unfortunately it seems from this story that those two things were heavily correlated in this disaster.

Supposedly said. That's hardly proof of anything. Not saying he was anything but dutiful, yet its unlikely he would expect the Captn to survive. So we have a crew member doing what he should've done, his job. Anyone looks heroic when compared to the bad crew members who refuced to pull women &, children from the water into the boat. Good day.

I also notice that if more people kept honor INTACT, there would not be so many other people paying the ultimate price - because more people would have been saved and preserved through the sinking. The breakdown in order itself - the disorganized cowardice of the few, caused MANY more deaths than were necessary.

Were a lot of men who damned themselves that day, particularly the ones you mentioned, but also every last mutineer.

Apparently a similar thing happened when the ferry Estonia foundered in the Baltic after its bow was shorn off in high seas. A group of passengers went down the throng gathered on the lifeboat deck, swiping jewelry and other valuables at knife-point, and peeling the most desirable young women out of the rest of the group. Pretty horrifying stuff.

@@CinemaDemocratica Have heard the same rumour too, but how credible it is...? There is no verifiable evidence and the eyewitness accounts are spotty at best. The sinking happened in the middle of the night, during a horrendous storm and within a very short time. Between the serious listing (over 15 degrees) and the ship being on it's side (90 degrees) took only around 15-20min. While it is possible, the extremely short timespan gives very little time for any serious looting/raping. The rumour i've heard says it all happened inside the ship, at outside there was no time for anything besides to survive. People had mere minutes to decide on what might keep them alive. The same rumour also explicitly says that the surviving eyewitnesses saw no 'looters' amongst the other survivors. So *IF* it happened, they all drowned in the numbingly cold and black sea in an absolute darkness, at worst hearing the hull creaking while it was going down to the bottom. Just barely enough time to truly understand that they were certainly going to die. Sadly that same horrible fate was faced by 980 innocent people...

It's the horror of nihilism distilled into mere hours. In the modern-day, we have Dylan Klebold, who thought he should die, because he hated himself and nothing he did had meaning, commiserating with Eric Harris, who thought everyone else should die, because he hated them and nothing had any meaning. So they sunk the ship themselves. (On the side of not becoming nihilistic myself, I try to remember that just over two years later, ordinary men took on a hopeless fight against multiple armed hijackers, because they couldn't bear dying knowing they didn't even try--and they succeeded.)

I can't imagine how they could explain that away to Jesus when they died and faced judgement - especially fi the souls of those the harmed and abandoned were in attendance.

You are 100 percent right! The captain was noble and did _everything_ he could to help the women and children. Those of the crew should have been hunted down wherever they were in Canada for their disgusting and selfish actions!

Unfortunately, other revolting sea disasters happened. The sinking of the VOC indiaman Batavia off the coast of Australia in the 17th century showed the depths of cruelty and sadism us humans are capable against our own kind.

@@philippetremblay906 Now THAT was probably the worst one in all of history.

Crewmen & perhaps passengers alike getting hammered and raping or having sex towards the end.... jeez, the decks all sticky & slippery with cum & sweat, that couldn't have helped those passengers who were indeed trying to save themselves and their children. So sad. :(